#1214 Queen of Pointless Stories

June 3, 2024Scott Benner

Johnna has type 1 diabetes.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 1214 of the Juicebox Podcast

today I'm going to be speaking with Gianna she's got like four kids, she made them all in like a very short amount of time. She has type one diabetes, and I don't know what to tell you this episodes about, but I did really like jhana please don't forget that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. When you place your first order for ag one with my link, you'll get five free travel packs and a free year supply of vitamin D. Drink ag one.com/juicebox Want to help Of course you do T one D exchange.org/juicebox complete the survey. That's all I need from you. That's all the T one D exchange needs from you but they might give you a little bit more back than that. You're gonna have to go find out T one D exchange.org/juice. Box complete the survey. You need to be a US resident who has type one or is the caregiver of someone with type one. If you're looking for community around type one diabetes, check out the Juicebox Podcast private Facebook group Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes

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Johnna 2:37
my name is Jana sullair. I live in Chicago. I'm 42 years old and I have four kids and I'm a type one diabetic.

Scott Benner 2:44
Gianna, do you know that while your setup for audio was not the longest it's ever been for me with people? It was the most amusing. I'm very happy to hear that. Thank you. I really appreciate it like those little latter part. Those, what would you call this? They're not kerfuffles? Are they? No, no, those moments are more frequent than you would think. If you're listening to the podcast, and people get on and they're just like, I don't know how the machine works. Like like that happens sometimes. And sometimes it goes on forever and ever. But yours was different. Most people's go almost exactly the same. This was a first for me. So thank you very much.

Johnna 3:22
You know, the last time somebody they didn't thank me, but I had to say you're welcome that I remember was when, after my the birth of my first the resident was like, well, now I'm all wet and I have to change my scrubs, which I've wanted to do a couple hours ago. So thank you.

Scott Benner 3:42
It's not really a compliment and you didn't really help. Exactly. I just sorted that's pretty nice. Oh my God, what did you do that poor person?

Unknown Speaker 3:52
I was in a certain position.

Scott Benner 3:54
The wrong one apparently. My gosh. Well, he learned something too. Okay, so you have type one diabetes for how long? I

Johnna 4:02
am at what is this? 20 2311 years now? Wow.

Scott Benner 4:07
23 years? 11 years for you. So what do you do your math

Johnna 4:11
on this one?

Unknown Speaker 4:11
I got 32 Yeah,

Johnna 4:14
so I was diagnosed right before I turned 31. Okay, gotcha. The year I turned 31.

Scott Benner 4:20
Is there any diabetes in your family? There

Johnna 4:23
is not an actually in front of me. I got this out yesterday because I knew you would ask that. I'm adopted. Oh, and so I have very little background for my family. But I have these papers because it was a private adoption, closed adoption. And I have these papers from 1981 that talk about the medical background of my birth parents and the only thing on here it has for my birth father asthma. I believe in his father. It has for my mother epilepsy on her with her sister. Yeah,

Scott Benner 4:58
useless. Those things are once your pinkie. They come up to a person is giving their baby away and like, is there any medical trouble in your family and like the guy was probably like my grandpop don't breathe good. And you know, like,

Johnna 5:13
the hands like died of heart attack died of stroke. But yeah,

Scott Benner 5:18
what does that mean? Did they smoke all the time? Well, and

Johnna 5:21
here's the one that got me on my dad's side, it says mental retardation, rather than special ed classes for reversal problems. He sees things backwards. And I was like, wow, they call dyslexia mental retardation in 1981,

Scott Benner 5:36
and 81. And you see things backwards. Yep.

Johnna 5:40
which I would consider to be dyslexia, which, you know, now is so common. That's gotta

Scott Benner 5:44
be what that meant, right? Yeah. I don't know. I show him an eight. He sees an eight. Where do you know what state you were adopted out of? I

Johnna 5:55
don't want to make fun of people. Sorry. No, that's okay. In Illinois.

Unknown Speaker 5:58
Oh, is that a place where people don't know things?

Johnna 6:03
Depending on what zip code you're and I would say yes. And maybe even block

Speaker 1 6:07
the AES though. I guess you're right. Like Dick's dyslexia, get a designation. Dyslexia

Johnna 6:14
did not become big until I would say mid to late 90s. And then it kept growing. Yeah, cuz I was, I went to I, my undergrad, I did teaching and I started learning more about dyslexia. And like I didn't even learned until after. So it was in the 2000s. I learned there's like, at least three different types, if not more,

Scott Benner 6:37
I have to tell you that you just said that dyslexia didn't become big until is maybe the funniest thing anyone's gonna say to me today. You were like, do you remember when Van Halen really took off? Was that eruption solo, by the way my googling of dyslexia when it began only returned. A Omari isn't enthusiastic is enthusiastic about vegan cooking, and wants to dispel myths about the meat free food is bland and boring. The hell that has Oh, he's a young dyslexic vegan chef, someone, someone with no conscience named this blog post young dyslexic vegan chef in a vain attempt to get clicks and I'm insulted by it. That's all well, kids got a lot of juice on the internet. Good for you. Oh Mari she's He's everywhere. Somebody here back like this kids, like incredibly famous. I'm the only one that doesn't know who he is. Anyway. So you're you have no family background to speak of as far as what could be or what can be that make you ensure you have 1000 kids? So did that make you interested in like doing, like trial and error testing for them?

Johnna 7:51
No, it did not. But I don't know if I would want to do because I've been thinking about that. Because I'm already like, oh my gosh, you peed a couple times more than usual. Yeah. Is this going to continue? You know, I guess if we got negative results, I would be very excited. But if we had more factors, I would be like just waiting even more for the shoe to drop. I think today's

Scott Benner 8:17
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Johnna 9:42
I wanted a big family and I set out to meet that goal and met it will get you

Scott Benner 9:49
good just setting goals and breaking right through them. It's like the one goal in life that you would think that by the second time you start going yeah, it was I think

Johnna 10:01
My oldest was not old enough for me to own while neither of the two oldest were old enough for me to rethink that.

Scott Benner 10:07
Would you do them in two packages? Are they like kids and kids?

Johnna 10:10
They're just all about two years apart.

Unknown Speaker 10:12
Oh, wow. You're on a schedule. Yeah, yeah.

Scott Benner 10:16
Are you done now? Or is your husband set to have sex again? And nine months? What's going on?

Johnna 10:19
No, I plan to be done. He actually brought up vasectomy. So we'll see if he follows through on that and reaches that goal. But

Scott Benner 10:28
I bet you thought about that. While he was very tired at work one day.

Johnna 10:32
You know, like, oh, yeah, right. He sleeps through the night like nothing. You know, at three I was like, Yeah, you know, what's, what's one more guys, you know? And now that I have four, I'm like, you know, if we have a fifth, we have a fifth. Really? Hopefully we don't. Wow, I will actually work to not have a fifth.

Scott Benner 10:48
Just man you married. Is he super handsome or something? What's going on?

Johnna 10:52
We do make beautiful babies for you. Okay. gratulations.

Scott Benner 10:55
It's nice. I'd be sleeping with a bat next to my bed. If I was you. I'd feel the blankets move. And I'd be like, no, no, no, no, it's not happening.

Johnna 11:03
I'm hoping that with the more kids I have at least one that will take care of me as I get older. Oh,

Scott Benner 11:08
that's a valid plan, too. You think one of them could make a couple of bucks. And then you see that one being smart. And that's where you really lay the Mommy loves you thing. I got you. Daddy didn't want you I fought for you.

Unknown Speaker 11:24
Oh my god, that seems like so many kids to me.

Johnna 11:28
It's a lot of kids. It really is. When I had my third, I was consistently worried that I was going to leave one somewhere. Yeah, I can't imagine not. And at this point, I just don't care.

Scott Benner 11:38
I'm gonna say a thing. That's not anybody's business. But I grew up around a lot of baseball and softball, as a parent, right. So I know it's a weird thing to say I grew up around, but I became a parent. And my kids, my son played baseball since he was honestly just before it was four years old. And then, Artem began to play softball when she was five. So I've been around, like meeting families that you wouldn't otherwise meet, you know, for a long time. Some of them are just incredibly lovely. And honestly, most of them are except for a couple of the monsters and these lunatics that think their kids are going to play for the Yankees like other than that, like everybody's been really cool. This one lady who is as sweet as could possibly be, had four children. The youngest one, whose name I wish him the best nickname in the world that I can't share with you because it'll literally say Who exactly he is if somebody's listening, but he was the youngest. And I can remember being at like baseball fields, I don't mean once or twice, where someone says, Hey, where's blank? And she'd go? I don't? Did I bring him she wasn't joking. She wasn't certain if the child was in her physical presence at the baseball field or at home. This kid must have we thought he was feral. Like the way he just kind of moved around, you know, but if I'm being honest, I think he's the most solid of their four kids. And I don't know what that says about them. Exactly. But um, but this they never knew where he was. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I've watched them look for him for 30 minutes, only to figure out that he was in another location with a different person. So that I don't think is an unfounded fear for you. I think that just it becomes a numbers game at some point. But what about the money and feeding them and putting clothes on them? Did you just wrap them in like brown paper bags? Or,

Johnna 13:31
you know, that's a good idea. No,

Scott Benner 13:35
you're actually buying them clothing. All right, well, you listen, you're independently wealthy. I didn't understand who I was talking to. But okay, I gotta go.

Johnna 13:42
Yeah, I wish and Well, the thing that works out is the oldest two are boy and girl so the younger two can just live in all the clothes they have. No so it's like we only have two kids you know? It's just the the food thing

Scott Benner 13:56
to kids that you care about and to kids that you just wrapping swaddles whatever they I got you, you know, hey, I want to just say to strong possibility that we call this episode young dyslexic vegan chef.

Speaker 2 14:12
Because I could use the clicker. It has the most clicks. I can use the clicks

Scott Benner 14:16
to Alright, anyway, can you imagine if that guy got back to me? And he was like, Hey, man, that's my thing, not yours. Get away from it. Alright. Okay, so you're you've but you were diagnosed as an how many kids did you have when you were diagnosed?

Johnna 14:29
Euro

Scott Benner 14:30
Wait a minute. You've had four children and 11 years? No,

Johnna 14:33
I had four children in six years.

Unknown Speaker 14:36
Six years. Oh my God. Are you okay?

Johnna 14:40
I don't know.

Speaker 1 14:42
You got arrested? Jesus. God didn't cry at the end. We did it. But you said the the the OB had to change. No, no. Wait, didn't you get the OB all wet when you gave birth? Oh, that

Johnna 15:00
was the first Resident so I go to a teaching hospital so it's completely different doctors every time I deliver, okay,

Scott Benner 15:05
I was just making a joke about Gotcha. The OB had to change

Johnna 15:09
like somebody else had to see me in general. change their clothes on

Scott Benner 15:14
the you ruin that joke that was set up. I know it was so good. You have no idea like it made. It made squeamish people upset but they're still like, I get what he's saying. And everyone else is cracking up and then you mess it up at the end. Okay, it's on your phone. Don't worry. We'll get past try not to do it again. We're gonna get past it. We're just gonna let it go. Oh, by the way, before we move on, let's tell people the problem when you were setting up the app is you needed to swipe one way and you were swiping the other way.

Johnna 15:42
Yes, swiping left and right is not my thing. I do not swipe. I'm

Scott Benner 15:45
like it says swipe, swipe left. Like that doesn't work. It doesn't work. But you were moving the thing. Oh my god. Anyway, let's not get over that onto that. But sometimes people move their finger one way. Think about them. Anyway. It's not important. All right. So your what's your oh my god, I've

Johnna 16:01
never been diagnosed as dyslexic so well, not yet.

Scott Benner 16:03
Oh, my God even put that together. Where am I on this? I'm giving you crap for not following it. I'm not following. It was all set up for me and I let it go. Okay, wow. So you were diagnosed with type one diabetes at 31 years old? How did it come on? Let's talk about the first couple of years. And then I want to hear about making all these babies with diabetes. This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by Omni pod five. And this is for all of you who wrote to me. I'm just gonna say pho mood this time instead of foo, although I like FOMO. But whatever. A lot of people in my private Facebook group, talk about their love for Omni pod five. Have you ever seen those posts and thought, Oh, I wish I could have that experience with an insulin pump too. If you answered yes, you might be experiencing FOMO fear of missing out on Omni pod symptoms may include but are not limited to dreaming about walking past the doorknob without getting your tubing caught. fantasizing about jumping into a swimming pool without disconnecting from your insulin pump first, and wishing you could wear outfits without pockets. There's good news. You don't have to suffer from FOMO. any longer. You can see what you're missing by trying Omni pod fi for yourself. Just visit Omni pod.com/juice box to get started. Is everyone happy now?

Johnna 17:29
Oh my gosh. So this is the other thing. I was like, let me be on this podcast because I haven't heard the story. But then I fully realized I am late. I'm one to come to realizations later on. So I started listening to your podcast maybe a year ago. And I was like, Oh, he's got a lot. I haven't. And then more recently, I was like, I haven't heard any diagnostic stories like mine. Okay, let me you know, get on this. And then I'm like, wait, he's got like, over 1000 podcasts. Now. I

Scott Benner 17:59
may not have just heard that. Well, listen, I'm gonna tell you somebody said something to me yesterday, I had never heard before. And in 1100 G's probably 1200 times recording the podcast. No one's ever swiped the wrong way. And were absolutely sure that they weren't. So you know, new stuff happens all the time. Don't worry about so what's your story? Tell me.

Johnna 18:19
Okay. So I was in my doctorate level program, doing some not fellowship work, but something like fellowship work. We were doing stuff over the summer, we were preparing to do or maybe we were doing it, I think we were already doing it. I don't remember the line of events. I just specifically remember. It was the year my best friend and I, at the time in graduate school had created this preschool program. And so we were running that. And we had to get different clothes, or we didn't have to get different clothes. We just decided like, let's make ourselves wear this like uniform, which was yoga pants and a T shirt. You know, working with three year olds. So we did that. And I don't know if it was right before, right after. But I was an I had lots of dogs at the time. So no kids, lots of dogs. And I would take them for walks. And I'd be like, I'm so out of breath. And even we I would walk across the street to this like dog park lat thing. Just just an empty lot, not a true dog park and let them run around and just walking across the street. I was like, I'm so out of breath, what's going on? And then I started being thirsty and going the bathroom a lot. Nothing registered. Nothing clicked for me. And this was going on for a few weeks. I'm like, let me try drinking some different things. Let me try. I don't know why. But I remember eating licorice. Like red. Twizzlers? Yeah. I don't know why, you know, and looking back and like, Oh, I was drinking orange juice and Twizzlers that really helped. So I'm drinking water going in the bathroom like two The point where I'm like, Oh my gosh, I'm gonna pee my pants I did once. And then a couple times, I was like, I think I'm going to pass out. Well, before that I was also teaching online. So during graduate coursework, so I had to look at the screen and grade papers and things like that. And then one night, I was looking at the TV screen. And I'm like, the TV screen looks a little blurry. And then the next day, I get online to do my course. And I can't read it at all. And like, it's the I'm like, I cannot read, I have to go to the eye doctor, we have like this. Like, I thought I problems were gradual. I don't have any glasses, no context, no vision problems. In 30 years. I'm like, here it is. So I go to a LensCrafters.

Speaker 2 20:45
I don't know why it made me laugh. So I know, right?

Johnna 20:49
Like, go to a LensCrafters. The doctor walks in and examines my eyes. And he's like, here's your prescription. I also remember afterwards, reading all the things on the wall. One of them in particular was about how diabetes affects the eyes, he gives me a prescription for glasses. I go home with them. The next day, I don't need the glasses. My vision is back to normal. And

Scott Benner 21:14
yeah, you're like, oh, this are those self healing glasses. They're fantastic. So

Johnna 21:19
my vision keeps changing. And really soon after. I'm to the point where I'm like, I'm going to pass out. And my husband's like, I'm taking you to the hospital. I don't think you look great. And at the time, we were not married. We did not live together. But he lived in the same building. I did. And I'm just like, okay, so we go to the ER at, it's like, late at night. But we're in Chicago. And at the time, I didn't have health insurance. So I go to Cook County, sitting in the emergency room for hours. I think it's like five hours, and probably like one or two in the morning. Well, you couldn't

Scott Benner 21:59
see the clock. How do you know how long it was? Yeah,

Johnna 22:01
exactly. So I don't know if it was before they sent me to the waiting room, or I had to wait this long to, but I get to like the lady where she was like getting my info and stuff. And she pricks my finger. And as I was thinking about this to tell you, I don't know, if she was telling me like diagnosing me you're diabetic? Or asking, like, asking, like how long you've been diabetic, right? And so I think my blood sugar was somewhere around 800 G's. So that's, you know, I learned in the emergency room, and they're like, we're gonna put you in a bay and get your blood sugar down. And then you can come back and meet with the diabetes team. On what you know, next week, whenever it's

Scott Benner 22:49
fascinating when we went to the little kiosk at the emergency room where we took art, and I remember that we created that confusion unknowingly by saying, Our daughter has diabetes. And what we meant to say, Well, what we meant to say was we just figured out that our daughter has diabetes, and we're bringing her here. And there was like this moment of like, pause I remember pause and confusion, while the person behind the things like do it like that. So what about diabetes? And we were like, oh, no, wait a minute. You know, and then like we just figured out I have a couple of questions. The first one I don't want to sound disrespectful, but it's probably going to be

Johnna 23:24
that's okay, I'm not easily offended. We'll find out.

Scott Benner 23:28
What the hell did that story have to do with you wearing yoga pants?

Johnna 23:31
Oh, because I had lost like, over 20 pounds. And so the size of yoga pants was drastically different than what I like would have gone to buy like if I would have said hey, go get me like this size yoga pants. That's not what I needed. I needed like two sizes smaller. And it didn't dawn on me I'd lost all this

Scott Benner 23:52
weight. Did I not hear you say that? Are you setting up to say that and then never said it? I don't think I ever said it. Yeah, I was like baffled. So I literally just like the yoga pants have to be key important to this episode. By the way keep when I say key important. I'm making fun of Paula Abdul on the first season of American Idol. Anybody old enough to know that? Enjoy your laugh right now. But I thought this must be incredibly important. Like she's telling you like exactly what she was wearing. And then it never came back up again. I was like, it was upset. But my other thing is I think you're the first adult who's admitted to paying themselves before diagnosis. Yeah, so you were right. You wouldn't do anything new. Well, but not then you hadn't even had four kids by then. Don't try to like I saw it you just did there don't try to blame that.

Johnna 24:43
No, I'm like at this point. You know anything goes for me. Yeah,

Scott Benner 24:47
also, I might just call this episode busy decade so serious and

Johnna 24:52
awful. Like the first five years of my 30s my early 30s were like the worst in my life. Because

Scott Benner 24:57
of this diabetes diagnosis or other First, it

Johnna 25:00
started with that. And then I lost both my parents.

Scott Benner 25:03
Oh my god way to bring down podcasts. Okay, how did that happen? How do you lose both your parents in a short amount of time.

Johnna 25:09
So my dad had heart problems in general, he died of a heart attack unexpectedly, but expectedly like, we expected him to have a heart attack at some point, just not as when he did. And then three months later, my mom died of a heart attack. And they actually called it a broken heart. Because she literally had the syndrome where her heart gives out because she misses her husband.

Unknown Speaker 25:31
How old was she?

Johnna 25:32
She was born in 53 and died in 20s 60 370-393-2000 360

Speaker 1 25:37
something right? Yeah, I want to say something right now. This

Johnna 25:45
is 64.

Scott Benner 25:47
I know. We're only one generation removed from your parents. I better not die in my 60s. I better not. So, God, I'll be pissed. Like, I just I've been through so much. And I have fought so freakin hard. And I'm almost there. And I swear to God, oh, if I die in my 60s, I'm going to be I'm going to be so I hope if I die in my 60s, it happens so fast that I don't have a moment to go. You have to be kidding me. Like I just Oh, please, please, either let me live longer or a bus that I don't see one of the other. Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I was also confused by the statement. We knew my dad was going to have a heart attack. Isn't that something we could have gotten ahead of? If we knew was happening?

Johnna 26:33
No. Like we tried. He it was just whatever the issues were with his heart. Like he was it. I don't know if he actually got diagnosed with congestive heart failure. But his heart was going to give out and there wasn't anything they could do. Like with his age and everything else. He was in Vietnam. Oh, oh, he smoked for so long. I don't think he would have ever made it to a donor list if that was even possible.

Scott Benner 27:00
Was he ever near the spring in Vietnam? I don't know. Do you ever talk to these people? Your parents?

Johnna 27:07
I don't know. My dad would not talk about anything related to Vietnam.

Unknown Speaker 27:12
Oh, no. Okay. Yeah.

Johnna 27:14
But I will tell you he he definitely had plenty of monologues, in his drunkenness as I grew up. So I did get a lot of information from him. Just not about his time in Vietnam. PTSD.

Scott Benner 27:27
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure the drinking was prevalent.

Johnna 27:31
Yeah, at least maybe maybe just trauma. I don't know if actual PTSD, possibly I don't diagnosis. So don't know all the criteria. The VA

Scott Benner 27:39
recognizes ischemic heart disease as being associated with exposure to Agent Orange.

Unknown Speaker 27:45
So yeah, maybe

Scott Benner 27:48
isn't crazy. Oh, my gosh. But your mom did she? How long were they together? They

Johnna 27:53
had celebrated their 25th anniversary. So they were married in 74. I think they got together maybe a couple years before that. So 7080 92,000. So 30 years? Yeah. I

Scott Benner 28:05
mean, I was born in 71. Well, I was Yeah.

Johnna 28:09
They had to be 30 years because my brother and I were both in our 30s is your brother 40 years? Yes. Yes, he is. His story is crazy. I'll try to make this short because I extend stories longer than I need to

Scott Benner 28:20
know. Just make sure you tell me what he was wearing. And then never tell me why it's important that I

Johnna 28:26
can do that. Although now he's got this trench coat. I think he finally got rid of it. Maybe your

Scott Benner 28:31
brother's a flasher? No,

Johnna 28:35
maybe, but you won't tell us about it. He so my aunt and uncle lived three hours away. My uncle worked as a manager at a grocery store. And one of the baggers said his girlfriend was pregnant. They didn't want to raise the kid because they didn't think they could give it a good life. And my uncle as the manager was like, I actually know people who are looking to adapt, and they worked it out. And that's how my parents got my brother.

Scott Benner 29:02
Well, ironically, if the Bagger would have bagged it, he wouldn't have gotten somebody pregnant. Thank you. I'm on a bad job roll today. Everyone enjoy it. By the way, when you told me that the grocery store was three hours away, I thought this better be pertinent to the conversation. And it wasn't no, no. Have you ever heard me tell the story about my uncle telling stories?

Johnna 29:31
No, do I want to he would ruin as bad as my telling stories. I don't want to

Scott Benner 29:35
know he would ruminate for minutes. But so first of all he could he owned a business. So he would capture us he's dead now. So I can do this without problems. He would capture us like during our break times. You couldn't do anything. He was the boss you know what I mean? So everybody was like Oh, here he comes. Hi. He you know when everybody's really like, please leave me the up. That's my 15 minutes like leave me alone. But he'd come over and hold court wasn't as good at it as he thought he was and would go into like telling a story about going for a ride. And the point of the story was where they ended up, but somehow would spend so much time on the ride and get caught up in what year the truck was that they were driving in. He couldn't quite remember he might go back and forth, he get to the end, and it had nothing to do with the truck. It had nothing to do with what year the truck was. And the voice in my head was sit there going, Oh my god. Why did we just spend 10 minutes on what year that truck was? I want to know, and there was never a reason and you're making me feel that way.

Johnna 30:37
I'm terribly sorry. Do

Scott Benner 30:39
this all the time? Or is this just since you gave away so much of your body to developing for human beings inside of it?

Johnna 30:45
No, I was labeled the queen of pointless stories in high school. Oh, and Queen.

Scott Benner 30:54
Pointless stories is definitely the title of your episode. Congratulations. Let's keep going.

Unknown Speaker 31:02
So this is an affliction you have

Speaker 1 31:05
currently, how many people do you think do this? I wonder? Is this a thing?

Johnna 31:11
I'm not sure. You wouldn't know better than me. You talk to more people. Yeah. So

Scott Benner 31:15
I'm gonna start keeping a checklist next to my next to my desk here. I am so purposeful. When I speak even though it doesn't sound like I am because I do this like, like sing songy back and forth, like Pulp Fiction timeline talking. But I don't waste words. I'm setting stuff up or getting ready or thinking about stuff all the time. But yeah, I don't know. I love you. This is great. Let me ask you another story. So I want to hear more. God, I want to hear more pointless stories. Let's go. So when you're diagnosed, back then what kind of technology do you get?

Johnna 31:49
I was doing vials of insulin and needles, vials and okay, I had no technology. Well, actually, they diagnosed me as type two. So I got pills. And then when I went, I think I went in for a follow up within like a week, because they wanted to see how I was doing. And the nurse was like, we think you might be type one. The doctor wants to do a blood culture or urine culture to check for whatever enzyme in your liver or something. And they're like, Yep, you're type one. So you're gonna need insulin. And then it was the needles, and then I did the pens. And then I switched, actually got a job in insurance and switched hospitals and doctors and then I went to a pump in 2015.

Scott Benner 32:39
John, are you are you? Are you purposely trying to only use words that are important to the story right now? Could you just slow Okay, cuz you slowed down when you were talking? I was like, Oh, I got in her head. I don't mean to do that. I'm sorry.

Johnna 32:49
No, I was trying to think. Okay, yeah, yeah. So. So I went to the pump and 2015 did not do a duck's calm. And then I've been trying to remember I'm like, did my doctor suggest this? And I refused. Like what happened? Because in a lot of your episodes, you guys talk about, you know, the fear being instilled in people. And I do not remember. And maybe it is just how I take things. But never once was I ever scared that I was going to die of giving myself too much insulin. And I remember them asking me every appointment. Do you have somebody that sleeps next to you? Do you? Do you live with somebody? And I'm like, Why? Why does that matter? And they would tell me because you know, at night, you could go low and this could happen. But I was never feared. I never feared that I would die.

Scott Benner 33:44
So you're you're with your husband, but not married to him at that point. Like how did you think of like it? Did you think you were were you living together? When

Johnna 33:52
I was diagnosed, we were not living together. And then we started living together. Maybe a year later. You guys,

Scott Benner 33:59
by the way are either really really in love or incredibly sexually compatible. I wish I knew which one it was. Am I right?

Johnna 34:07
I don't maybe both at some points. I don't know the if the incredibly in love continues every day. No,

Scott Benner 34:13
no, after a couple of years. Don't ruin it for the young people. You'll feel like this forever. Don't worry. You'll never walk into a room again. All right. No, no, I just I mean, like you were you guys waited into your 30s to get married?

Johnna 34:34
Well, we didn't need each other until we were almost 30 Is that because

Scott Benner 34:38
you were chasing the perfect person or a career? Both? Okay. And then I'm trying to say something without saying it. I shouldn't do that. But an adult who waited that long to get married who still marries a person who's diagnosed with a chronic illness. I figure either really loved you really love to have, you know what I mean? Like, so like I'm trying to think, because, yeah,

Johnna 35:05
he really loved me and loves any interaction with me, I would

Scott Benner 35:10
imagine. I just keep thinking you must look like a supermodel as we're talking. And not because people can't. Like, I want to be clear, I don't think people can't love people with chronic illnesses. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that this specific mixture of variables waited a long time older, more mature, maybe more likely to do the math on what this might cost, like, financially. Like, there's a lot of reasons why someone might have backed away, but but they didn't, which I feel like means you were with a really good match. And I'm just trying to figure out what that was. So

Johnna 35:43
I think it's lack of thinking things through.

Scott Benner 35:47
The two of you aren't paying attention. Yes, gotcha. I gotcha. Oh, he's like, No, this will be for kids. So then he did he not? Did he never understand the seriousness of the type one. In the beginning.

Johnna 36:01
It's hard. It's really hard for me to say I think he does. But it's just kind of like it is what it is. I think we have a similar attitude. And you know, this is serious, but we're going to deal with it.

Scott Benner 36:13
I'd say your personalities match up well. Yeah. And you never thought of anything of it. No matter how many times you're like, are you sleeping next to somebody? Are you going to be safe? That kind of stuff? It didn't, you didn't make the leap to wonder why they're asking me if I own a handgun basically.

Johnna 36:28
Well, I mean, they, they mentioned that and it wasn't also it wasn't immediately in the context of if you give yourself too much insulin, you could die, you know, especially during the day, but I just never, I think it was one of those things like, well, that's not going to happen. Yeah, I think it was a denial thing.

Scott Benner 36:46
Okay. Isn't it interesting to you, you kind of cruised over it for a second, but I wanted to go back to it. You said it's maybe in my personality, that I wasn't, like scared by it. I always that's one of the things I wonder about constantly is people's different reactions to the same information. Like what like how can you say something to one person, and it scarred them forever? And another person is just like, Wait, it might kill me. Alright, I'll be careful. And they just keep going. Like, that's fast. You know?

Johnna 37:15
Well, I definitely when they told me I, they wanted to check that I was type one, that type two. That definitely made me go full blown tears crying in the doctor's office, because I was like, what that means I'm going to lose my, my arm or my eyesight or you know, I'm going to be amputated. And you know, if it's type two, I can do better and this and that. And get rid of it. And they're like, no, no, no. Like, you know, and so then I learned more about everything because I knew very little about diabetes. Yeah.

Scott Benner 37:45
Are you the kind of person that watches the show called Chicago Med by any chance? I used to? Does anyone want to give me a minute? Right now? I don't know. You can't send me an award through the the internet. But I heard your reaction to that information and was able to surmise that you would watch Chicago Med. Everyone just wonder how that happened forever. I'm not going to tell you where my brain got that information from? Also, maybe we call this one bad jokes, and pointless stories. I'm still working on. Consider I'm workshopping that still. Oh my god. Okay. So when do you figure out that like type one? When do you How long does it take you to think I know what this is. I know what I'm doing. All these things. I wondered at the beginning. You know, some of them are valuable some of the more how long does it take you to get comfortable with it?

Johnna 38:32
I think it ebbed and flowed after, or right before I started having kids. And it's gotten progressively better since I started listening to your podcast. And how

Speaker 2 38:44
long ago is that than a year ago?

Johnna 38:47
Around there?

Scott Benner 38:47
You've been dumb luck in your way through this for a decade. Yep. Well, and

Johnna 38:51
let me tell you, I found your podcast because I was listening to a podcast, the vagina blog podcast, and you were on that I was there. And I started listening to your podcast. Oh,

Scott Benner 39:00
you must have really liked me if you like me on that podcast. I was very silly on that podcast.

Johnna 39:05
Yeah. Well, there you go.

Scott Benner 39:07
I have to ask you something you so you're already listening to a podcast called The vagina blog podcast, when they bring on a male not a doctor. Do you think why is this happening?

Johnna 39:20
No. Well, for me, I think it's perspective. Right? So I'm a type one diabetic. And that's what you were on there is to talk about type one diabetes and the menstrual cycle with your daughter. Yeah,

Scott Benner 39:29
you must have been the only person who wasn't wondering why am I listening to this? Don't you think though? Other ladies were probably like what's going on here? This is stupid. I don't ever like this guy. Like, he didn't know anything about our vaginas. I just knew about hormones. And yeah, so you found me on that podcast, and then came to this and now this is going to sound like I'm fishing for a compliment. I'm not. I'm asking the question because you literally lived 10 years with diabetes randomly and now It seems like you have it. Like, what's your situation now versus a few years from now? ago? I

Johnna 40:06
would say when I started my agency, I was able to look back at my charts. So 2013 I think my agency was around eight. And then I got the pump in 2015. It still stayed around eight, it might have come down a couple tenths of a point. And then it really came down when I started trying to conceive in 2017. Okay, and since then, it's been, I would say no higher than 6163. And sorry, there's my six week old

Speaker 2 40:37
lady that kids six weeks old. Yes.

Johnna 40:41
So, one of my pregnancies, my agency was 4.9.

Scott Benner 40:46
I love you. I just want to say that out loud right now. Are you gonna breastfeed that baby while we're making this podcast? Or what's going on here? Do you give that up? Uh, well, I got ready to eat for at least another half hour. No one's ever breastfed on the podcast, just saying I bet you know of. Well, I would hope if they were a good podcast guests, they would say, Hey, by the way on breastfeeding, so that I could say stupid stuff about it. And we can have fun. So well, wow, I didn't realize that your youngest was that young? Yeah. You are like a bag of surprises. Okay, hold on a second. First of all, I want to commiserate with you and everybody else this has ever happened to how upsetting is it to go from injections to a pump, and it doesn't move your a one se.

Johnna 41:32
So at the time, I was not even aware or caring about what my one C was? I was aware of it. I just didn't care. And like not to not because I was like lip balm compliant? Yeah. I just, I had no reason to like, you know, my doctors would just say like, oh, you know, you're doing great, blah, blah, blah. They weren't like honing in like, you need to bring your agency down. You need to bring these numbers down.

Scott Benner 41:57
You are a unemployed mother of three living in the United States of America with an eight something a one see, and no one was giving you any direction about that? Nope. I hope everyone's embarrassed. Okay. So, and you had had children with higher frequencies?

Johnna 42:17
No, by the time I started having children, I had brought it down to

Scott Benner 42:21
six. And that happened because the doctor said you have to have a lower one, see if you're going to be pregnant. So the focus has

Johnna 42:28
never and still is not on my agency. Like they take my agency every three months. But it's never like I have to ask what my agency was for them to tell me. You live in a like forest with my agency again.

Scott Benner 42:41
Especially what do you live in the forest? What's going on?

Johnna 42:45
Don't know. But it was the sole conception. You know, I read a few books and the doctors were like, We want your fasting blood sugar to be below 90. And your postprandial is to be you know, less than 120. And so I worked really hard to do that.

Speaker 1 43:01
Oh, they gave you a guideline. Okay, so they gave you God? Did they tell you why? To decrease

Johnna 43:07
birth defects? Risk factors?

Scott Benner 43:10
That's it. That's all somebody had to say to you was? And so why were you able to so effortlessly adjust from eight and a half to six?

Johnna 43:18
I was just paying attention to what I ate. I think better.

Scott Benner 43:21
That's it. It was about us around food. Not even around? Yeah. Yeah,

Johnna 43:25
definitely. Around the food.

Speaker 1 43:27
Are you eating? I don't mean it. Like, what was your diet? Like?

Johnna 43:31
I do not really, I the only thing I remember is, I ate a lot more spinach with my first and probably like, portion things out better. But I don't know that I really changed. Like what I was consuming

Scott Benner 43:47
a Europe for a party. I can tell.

Johnna 43:52
You know, I've, you know, as I've had the kids, I'm like, Well, let me just eat whatever. And now I'm more. It's more about the insulin and controlling things.

Unknown Speaker 44:01
Okay. Are you in my Facebook group?

Johnna 44:04
No. Oh, my

Scott Benner 44:05
God. I'm very upset by that. I definitely wanted to see you. I was just I wanted to go find out who exactly I'm talking to right now.

Johnna 44:12
That's fine. Back on the Facebook. I will join 44,000

Scott Benner 44:15
members 120 new posts today about diabetes. What would you do with that absolutely free by the way.

Johnna 44:23
I would never look at it because I have four kids. And I can only listen to podcasts. Yeah, no,

Scott Benner 44:29
I don't. I mean, quite obviously, you're doing two things with your life and neither of them involve your phone. i Well, maybe one of them does. Who knows? I don't know what you're doing over there. You did not answer me if your husband is incredibly handsome.

Johnna 44:42
I did not answer you.

Scott Benner 44:44
And you're still not going.

Oh, you know what? Don't answer me, John. Now I'm dying out. It'll fuel my entire day wondering if he's just really handsome and you didn't want to say anything? Or if you don't want him to hear that you don't think he's six Did I just let's leave it there? I just want that's what I wanted. That's where I want to live. There's no way my wife thinks to me is handsome, right? Like literally like 27 years we've been married. Now I looked the best I've ever looked right now, by the way,

Johnna 45:13
I think I I'm sure she thinks you're handsome. Oh, no,

Scott Benner 45:16
I think she's just happy that the kids look the same. I think that's why I got this day, actually, because I think she wanted an other kid. And she didn't want them to look oddly different. That was it. There was some time in there. When I was younger. I'm sure she was just like, I'll let this guy hang out a little longer. So the kids are the same. Like that's for sure what she was doing. Oh my gosh, now she's just like, getting pretty successful with that podcast. Maybe I'll see what see what he can buy me when I retire. Maybe that's what she's thinking now. Don't you think? Probably. Do you think young people are like, wait, what's happening? What's gonna happen to me? Oh, that's probably just. Yeah.

Johnna 45:51
I hope she's thinking that Yeah. Oh, randomly.

Scott Benner 45:54
It's probably just Gianna and Scott who have this experience. My experience will be different. Yeah, you're always gonna be an Instagram real Don't worry.

Johnna 46:03
Yes, exactly. Right.

Scott Benner 46:07
Suckers. Okay. Will be whatever you make it. Watch me watch me. prove the opposite point though. Gianna. Would you trade your husband for anything? Pancreas, I was gonna say such a long pause. I said didn't go the way I expected. She was I thought you were doing math. I thought you're going like, like, maybe $400,000.

Johnna 46:31
Oh, no, no, no, I would that? Of course not.

Scott Benner 46:35
But it doesn't make any of the other stuff untrue. Just so everyone listening is focused on what I'm trying to get at. It's gonna be a show, but not so much that you'd want to trade it for something else, which doesn't make any sense. But you'll figure out why

Johnna 46:48
later. Yep. Yeah. And you'll understand why, you know, after 1020 years,

Scott Benner 46:52
yeah, no. 100%. And here's why. In a nutshell, you bought so much stuff? How are you going to move it all out of here?

Johnna 46:59
Well, yeah, you know, unless you want to be the one to move

Scott Benner 47:02
out if you can't afford it. By the way, I think that I think that famous people divorce more frequently, because they can. But that's a really sad thing to say,

Johnna 47:14
Oh, 100% agree with that.

Scott Benner 47:18
Like, because they don't like like, when when t Swizzle moved into the Kelsey boy's house in Kansas City, or wherever the hell that just happened. My wife said, God, that was fast. I was like, she doesn't have to move the stuff. The cost of moving it is meaningless to her. She just said out loud, take some of my stuff that Kelsey is house, I'm gonna live there. And if it goes wrong, she'll just say out loud, Hey, everybody, go get my stuff out of that house and bring it back to here. Like she doesn't have any like, you know, speed bumps at all around that. And I think that allows people to follow their their like knee jerk reactions instead of like actually sitting around and like saying, like, well, let me be thoughtful about this relationship. They don't she doesn't have to be. I mean, God bless her off, but you don't you mean? Exactly. Yeah, I didn't think I'd say anything thoughtful while we were recording, but there it was. By the way, I got a haircut yesterday. And the head set feels so much different on my head. It's freaking me out.

Johnna 48:20
But I'm okay. Little things in life. I

Scott Benner 48:22
had a moment yesterday, I walked into the person who cuts my hair. I'm gonna just tell you. I do have my hair cut in a salon, but I have beautiful hair. So you should all know that. That's why I don't have like a guy's like, you can't just like, hit me with some scissors and everything's okay. I've like wavy curly hair. I need a lady that you

Johnna 48:40
have beautiful hair. You're not balding. But you host a podcast where nobody can see

Scott Benner 48:47
it. Nobody can see it. So it doesn't matter. Meanwhile, yesterday, she's running her new team you can brag about oh, yeah, no. And I have nice broad shoulders too. And again, you don't get to see that either. But I saw like, she's going through my hair. She goes My God. She goes, you have all your color. She's like, you still have so much curl. And you're so lucky. She's like, never complained about this. And I was like, I won't complain about it. She was okay with you and pay you for it. I don't know what she was thinking. I think she was going to eat me or like lock me in a basement hole or something. But I was like, I was like, She's lovely. By the way. She cut my hair for years. I sat down she was what are we doing today? After she told me like how lucky I was. I was like, I hate my hair. We have to get rid of it. So what's wrong? I said, Look how big my head is. So I do have a I do wear a bigger hat like a seven. I don't know, like seven eighths maybe like a bigger hat. Right? Okay, and my head is bigger than some people's heads. I really I hated saying that out loud because I think everybody who listens but hates me secretly is like, oh yeah, we know you have a big head like but that's fine. Like that's good pay. I'm talking about physically My head's a little bigger than it should be. And now that I'm skinny, or it's more noticeable and when my hair gets all fluffy and curly. I will locked in. I was like, Look at how big my goddamn head is. And she's like, I don't know what you're talking about. I was like, look at it. And she's like looking. And I think she thought I was kidding. I'm like, I'm not kidding. My head is huge. I turn and give her my profile. And I'm like, look from the tip of my chin to the top of the back of my head. That's too long. She's like, What are we talking about? And then she looked for me, and she goes, Oh, I see what you're saying. And I was like, right, right, right. And then she just, like, goes into her bag. And she goes, Can I go really tight on the back and the sides and I was like, I honestly don't care what you do. I was like, I'm so I woke up this morning. I was so irritated with how my hair looked. And so I made a last minute decision yesterday. Randori. And I was like, do this. I didn't even have an idea. I was like, just changed my haircut. So anyway,

Johnna 50:45
my head is now I love your haircut, and

Scott Benner 50:48
my head looks more normal. So I'm being my point is I'm vexed. I've got beautiful hair is gorgeous. I don't want to lie to you. It's absolutely fantastic. When it gets too long. I look like I don't know, I look like a dry Q tip that got stuck in your ear. Does that make sense? Is that a visual? Everyone understands. Oh, goodness. Alright, so anyway, my head is too big. And now I have to keep my hair short. Because I lost weight. I don't know. I don't know why I told you that.

Johnna 51:19
I don't know better keeping your hair short than gaining the weight back. Oh, yeah. Oh, listen,

Scott Benner 51:23
here's what I've learned. Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels. That's a real thing. Yeah, I don't I went. I told this story in a weego V diary. What will be like six months ago now. It actually made me cry. I'm going to tell you I literally like sitting by myself recording a five minute diary entry. I unexpectedly started crying. And that was really crazy. I'm not I don't feel like I'm going to cry now. But

Johnna 51:50
and you felt so good after, didn't you?

Scott Benner 51:52
Oh my god, I've made my whole day better actually. Yep. I've had a lot of stress about work recently, which I know sounds crazy because I make a podcast but I have. And. And so we went out this past weekend, Friday night. We're just gonna do I think we're just gonna go on like a little shopping jaunt. My daughter actually likes shopping for clothes and not even buying them. She just likes looking at clothing. And so I was like, I'll go with you. Like I've had a long day I need to get out of here. So my wife and myself and my daughter, we all went went to a mall where you're walking around. And I said, I need some new shirts. And Arden's like, well, let's go get you clothes. Then we went into a store and we started shopping and I've probably never shared on the podcast, but I hate clothes shopping. And it because it's because I grew up like a fat kid. And it just it brings back so many terrible memories. I hate the way I look in clothes. I don't like looking in the mirror about it. Like like a lot of like those feelings that people have. They probably don't tell other people about, but I have them like, you know, like my mom bought me jeans at Sears that had elastic waist bands. So that's a tough one. And like like that kind of stuff. But I looked good in the clothing and in colors and and patterns I would never have put on. And I was just so like, happy. I've never once enjoyed shopping for clothing. And I had such a good time. And I was so pleased when I left and and all that anyway, I start telling the story in the week OB diary. And it hits me of how horrible I was to my mom while we were clothes shopping all the time. And I started thinking oh, I wish my mom was alive. So I can apologize to her about this and explain it to her. And then she's not. And then I started crying. And I was like, diary about my weight loss. Like how did this happen? Anyway, I don't know what the hell we're talking about anymore. You got to pump. And you got to CGM making the babies brought your agency down. But what do you mean? Like you got your agency down to make the kids but what so you had three babies without me and one baby with me? Is that right? Yes.

Johnna 53:56
What was the difference? And the agency or in

Scott Benner 53:59
your experience? Your experience having a baby, pre and post podcast listener? It's

Johnna 54:05
hard to say because I think there's more factors. So I use a tandem pump, which has the control IQ technology. And it's not recommended for use in pregnant mothers, or pregnant women. So with my third I had it turned off. So it was just whatever settings I had, that's where I was running man. Most likely, if I remember correctly, I probably adjusted what I was eating, or we just adjusted my settings based on what I was eating. So when I'm pregnant, I messaged my doctors weekly and I'm like, here's my numbers, tell me what settings to change. And they always say, you know if this keeps happening, change it yourself. And then with this one, I had a new so it's always the doctor and then the nurse practitioner. And so it was a new nurse practitioner. Because my previous one who was amazing our first child, we each had our first kid. They have the same birthday And she had three kids, once she had her third, she stopped practicing. And I was so sad. And so all of our babies were born about the same time. So, in getting pregnant with my fourth, I had a new nurse practitioner that was following up with me, in addition to the doctor, and she was not as aggressive as the previous one. Okay, so I started making more adjustments on my own, and less paying attention to what I ate. I'm just like, Oh, I'm gonna make these adjustments. But I will say also, and the adjustments came, also due to listening to your podcast.

Scott Benner 55:29
Okay, so I gave you the courage to make adjustments to your settings.

Johnna 55:36
Is that it? More? Yeah, a lot more

Scott Benner 55:38
frequently than I was prior. And you were focused on it, because you knew it was important for the baby. Yes, for sure. Wow. You're a bright person. I'm so this is gonna sound wrong. I am so stunned that it took all those years for you to like, and then for those confluence of things to come together for you to like, pay attention to it. Like now that you're, you've given birth to what I'm going to assume is your last baby, but God knows. Are you going to keep your agency in the sixes Do you think?

Johnna 56:08
I would hope so. Yeah, that's my goal. What would stop you some other giant health thing? Well, I guess if it were me personally, and it was a health thing, I would then make sure my diabetes was kept in check, and a little agency to not affect that other health thing. But let's say one of my kids develops diabetes

Scott Benner 56:25
or something, it took your attention away, because like, Oh, what, but then maybe,

Johnna 56:29
maybe it would be easier for me to keep mine because then I'd be so focused on what they were eating to keep their agency and stuff. But, you know, management for myself. Unfortunately, I don't follow the aeroplane rules to put the mask on yourself before you put it on others. Yeah,

Scott Benner 56:43
I don't think anybody I don't think anybody does that. That's just the thing we say because it sounds by the way, most of advice in the world is centered around things that we all really know, but don't do. And then we hear somebody else tell us and we think, Oh, they must do it, I can do it, too. And I think that the only difference between a lot of people just talking crap and, and trying to get clicks and downloads and this podcast is like, I'm actually telling you what we do. And those things actually work. And so like, give me like, if you're a podcast listener, you know what I mean? Like, it's easy to turn, like, you know, like, get up every morning at five o'clock and run 20 miles and you'll look like me. Well, yeah. Okay, thanks for the input. I didn't know, I didn't know that being an ultra marathoner would make me in shape. But you've crystallized that for me with your explanation, like there's. So there's a lot of, there's a lot of self help out there. That doesn't actually help anybody. It preys on how you feel, and what you know, is wrong with what you're doing. And you listen to it, because you feel like well, if I listen to this, if I read this, I'll do it. But that's not how it works. And I'm really fascinated and thrilled, by the way that you're so honest, that you're not 100% Sure, if you're a one C will stay in the sixes. And you don't know why other than to say that this is your personality. It's how you deal with things. And it's how you interact with your life. That's pretty much it. Right? Yeah. Well, I

Johnna 58:04
think it will now that I'm, you know, just bolusing more and like, Oh, I'm trending up. So let me get myself a little Bolus. Did you

Scott Benner 58:13
not understand, years ago that an eight and a half a one C was going to contribute to poor health? Or did you know that?

Johnna 58:20
Actually, I don't know that I'd been told that. I don't remember ever really hearing any of my doctors or educators or anybody harping on or even discussing a onesies. You know, it's always about food and post granules and fasting blood sugars. So

Scott Benner 58:38
they're reading to you out of a book. Oh, I'm sure yeah, this is not coming from some personal experience or some like well thought out. Advice. This is absolutely no, I learned this in medical school. This is what I'm supposed to say to you. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Listen, I know it's not crazy. I've right. You know, I've been doing this a long time. I know it's almost expected. I Jenny and I are literally six episodes deeper, recording another one this afternoon into making a whole like series about talking to doctors about what they should be saying to people.

Johnna 59:09
And with being pregnant. A couple things that I had never heard the doctors never said, I somebody was on your on one of the podcasts and said at the beginning, the first trimester, your insulin needs go down. And I didn't know that. I also did not experience it with the first three kids. So no doctor has ever said that to me. It did not happen. My fourth it did happen to the point where I was working and they had to call the paramedics.

Scott Benner 59:39
So for three babies in a row, you didn't have that drop in insulin need first and second trimester. And then it bounced up in the third but it happened to you on the fourth kid. Correct? That's bonkers.

Johnna 59:52
And then another thing that I also mentioned to the nurse practitioner and she's like, Oh, as like she didn't know this In your third trimester, not even your third trimester, but like the last six weeks to a month, a month to six weeks of your pregnancy, your insulin needs also go down after drastically going up during the second trimester. Right? And ended the third ping

Scott Benner 1:00:14
pongs. Yeah, you have to really stay. And then did you have in any of those pregnancies, any of them in any of your myriad of pregnancies? Did you? Did you notice your needs? Jump right up after you delivered the placenta?

Unknown Speaker 1:00:30
No, no. Well,

Johnna 1:00:31
I will say the the recommendation was to change everything by 50%. So I did that. But with my second and third, will actually with all of them. I was like, Well, I still need to, you know, change things. And then with my fourth, I was like, I'm not going to do quite 50% Because I seem to be higher than I wanted to be.

Scott Benner 1:00:51
After the baby was interesting. It was so different for you. All right. Definitely the same father for the fourth one. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I would have would have nothing to do with it. But I just yeah. Wow, is that something? I will say this, you're not gonna have any mental health issues around your diabetes? Because you go with the flow? For sure. You really do. By the way, that's something we haven't dug into enough. You have four, four children, and have a job, right? You have a husband, a job for children. You listen to the podcast, you know, many people tell me I don't have time to listen. I'll say to them, like, Look, you don't have to be like to listen to every episode. But check out this bowl beginning stuff, or, you know, dive into the Pro Tip series. I think it'll really help you. And they'll say, I don't have time to do that. And I'm like, What do you like, running a small country by yourself? Like, what? And then you so why do you have time?

Johnna 1:01:44
I don't know, it became when I had two kids. Things were really easy. But you know, when whatever number of kids you have you think that's really the hardest thing ever. And then you have more kids, and you're like, Oh, one last was way easier than this one. So I will say when I had three kids, it was definitely hard. Now that I've got four, you know, he's only six weeks. It's about the same as having three. So what's one,

Scott Benner 1:02:06
you have perspective now that you didn't have before, but

Johnna 1:02:09
the with two I was listening to I would put the kids to bed and then go do the dishes. And I'm the dishwasher, we don't have a dishwasher. So that's when I would listen to podcasts. And then during any commutes my previous job, I used to travel a lot for work, so I could listen to podcasts and traveling. And now it's every once in a while. So when I take the kids to school, I can sometimes listen usually not. But then once I dropped them off, and I'm on my way to work, I can get about 20 minutes in and same thing when I leave

Scott Benner 1:02:41
the next time you feel your husband's hand sliding under the blanket, I want you to say out loud, not until I get a king dishwasher. That's exactly what I want you to say. Okay,

Johnna 1:02:51
well, I ready for one we've been I've been fighting with him on this for the fight. I didn't want one. I'm like our kitchen is too small. We're not you're not putting a dishwasher in here because he could do it himself. But now I'm like, yeah, let's get one.

Scott Benner 1:03:05
No, you say it in that setting. You'll have one the next day. That's the first thing I want to tell you and tell him to let me let me say this. You want a little extra money spent on a Bosch because they're silent. Okay. Okay. You don't care where he gets he better go rob a bank if he doesn't have it. Because a nobody coming on this side of the bed till I get a silent dishwasher. I will tell him that anyone listening, I've just given you the best advice you've ever gotten in your entire life. A silent dishwasher is a few $100 more and will change the next decade and a half of your life. And you're welcome. There. I've done that. This should be my podcast where I just say things you don't know. And they're like three minutes long. Yeah, can you imagine if you flipped on a podcast and the guy's like, Hey, welcome to the podcast. Today's advice. Get a silent dishwasher. Goodbye.

Johnna 1:03:57
You might get more listeners if they figured they could have time to listen.

Scott Benner 1:04:00
Yeah, don't worry. I actually already have a series of short episodes in the works we're working on right now. But seriously that I did it and it isn't done. And then here like a disco Clang, Clang, Clang, clang clang for an hour in your house, is you don't realize how much noise pollution is. I can't believe I just use the phrase noise pollution but it's absolutely true. And there are dishwashers that you cannot hear the inside while they're running.

Johnna 1:04:23
I'm telling you do it. Well. I have four kids. So it might be hard to hear a dishwasher in general

Scott Benner 1:04:27
those kids are going to leave. When they're gone that dishwashers

Johnna 1:04:32
gonna be playing in this house by the time they leave. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:04:35
well that's another thing you can say when you hear the hand move and you go whoa, give me a better house. You made the space problem. Fix it. Oh my god. I don't know what you're doing over there. If you have another baby, I'm gonna yell at you. I just want to say I don't know you've ever defined you and be like China. What are you doing?

Johnna 1:04:56
Well, you know I do have to go so I can catch my husband. On his lunch break, so we can try making that next day.

Scott Benner 1:05:02
Right now. All right, well, you obviously have to go feed that baby. But I have one last question. I'll let you go. We're over time because let's be honest, you couldn't figure out which way was left and right. Are you named after someone in your family? Like your name is literally Gianna? You

Johnna 1:05:18
are correct that I am literally named Gianna. I am not. So here's the story with my name. Nobody in my family is John. They wanted a J name. So both of my parents name started with A J. My older brother who was adopted, they named him his name starts with A J. But he's five years older than me. Six years school. Is that fine? Or no? Yes, six year school wise five, age wise. So when he was in school in kindergarten when they got me, and they realized there were like three other kids with the same name. And they're like, Oh, that's too common. We want our daughter to have a J name, but not common. And like Jennifer was really common at the time. And I don't know what else they were considering. And I guess they were asking around and somebody mentioned Gianna, and they went with it. I'm gonna

Scott Benner 1:06:05
tell you two things that I'm gonna let you first thing is this exact same thing happened to us. We chose Cole. And then when he got to kindergarten, there were like three or four holes. And that's how we got to Arden. We did the same thing. It was like maybe that we thought Cole was different, but I guess it isn't. The other thing is, and this is just, this is food for thought for you to take through your day. The detail about whether or not your brother how old he is more than you? Yes, completely not important to what you just told me. I had to throw it in there. But it doesn't matter. I'm just telling you. I don't think you're going to change and I'm not asking you to. You're pretty perfect the way you are. John, don't don't change. But no, seriously, but that's what I'm talking about. Like you dug into a detail with 10 or 12 words that had no impact on the story.

Johnna 1:06:52
I can't help myself.

Scott Benner 1:06:55
I really do. Love you. I just met you an hour and six minutes ago. You're my favorite person. Thank you so much for doing this. Can you hold on for one second for me? Yes.

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Unknown Speaker 1:08:23
Let me say this.

Scott Benner 1:08:25
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