#428 Culture of Helping

January 15, 2021Scott Benner

Utah Adrianna

Adrianna is a young mother who lives with type 1 diabetes.

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Unknown Speaker 0:00
Are you checking her blood sugar?

Adriana 0:02
My insulin pump just well expired this morning. So I was just putting him back on. I can stop for a second.

Scott Benner 0:11
Don't stop, you're fine. It's a podcast about type one diabetes. If we can't let somebody put on an insulin pump during this, I don't know where in the world you'd be able to do it. The absolute place to do it, so talk me through what's going on while it happened. So you're pumped just expired it it just aged out.

Adriana 0:29
Well expired. Earlier this morning. I was half asleep, and then I didn't even realize it. But I took off my pump. Like off my body. I woke up and I was on my nightstand. So somehow in the middle of the night, because sometimes it'll just expire and I turn off the PDM. Okay, but I actually like ripped it off my body last night and it was like I'm sick of this. Yeah.

Scott Benner 0:54
So that way you did this in your sleep?

Adriana 0:57
Yeah, I am. I'm a pretty heavy sleeper.

Scott Benner 1:03
Alright, let's start over. How are we gonna refer to you? So since we're recording already?

Adriana 1:09
Oh, okay. Um, well, I'm Adriana and I live in good old Utah, and I've been diabetic for only six years. So I was I was 18 when I got diagnosed.

Scott Benner 1:34
Hello, friends, and welcome to Episode 428 of the Juicebox Podcast today proving that in fact, the Juicebox Podcast is the number one type one diabetes podcasts in Utah, another guest from the great state of Utah. She's got a great story to please remember, while you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. or becoming bold with insulin. You know, I've never been to Utah. I might have to go. I think I would be treated like a I don't know exactly. I feel like there would be like a red carpet. And someone would bring flowers to the airport. Utah. I love you. And I have no idea why so many people from your state. Listen to this show. I'm gonna figure it out one day. Does Adriana have the answer? Maybe. Anyway, I really want to call this episode Utah, Adriana. But I don't know if I'm going to do that in

today's episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by touched by type one. They're an amazing organization, doing incredible work for people living with type one diabetes, and you should check them out. They're on Instagram and Facebook. And of course, at touched by type one. org. The episode is also sponsored by the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor. If you're using insulin, you need to see what your blood sugar is doing. dexcom.com forward slash juice box, you'll be able to find out more. And of course to get that free, no obligation demo of the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump. All you have to do is go to my Omni pod comm Ford slash juice box. Alright, let's get away from the diabetes for a second. Have you committed any major crimes in your sleep? Anything like there's no bank robber being looked for in your town and no one can figure it out. But you have a Lamborghini and you're not sure how you got it either. Nothing like that.

Unknown Speaker 3:53
No, no, no.

Scott Benner 3:54
I know. So that's interesting. So So tell me something you weren't wearing a pump for a while. Did your blood sugar go up? significantly?

Adriana 4:03
Yeah, yeah, I definitely woke up. I I'll wake up with my blood sugar gets pretty high too. And obviously the Good morning. You know, you have to go use the restroom or I if I wake up thirsty. I'm like, Oh, no. Where's my blood sugar out? And, and then I have Dexcom as well. And so that beeps at me. But my husband usually is more diligent at saying Hey, your sugar's high. Hey, cuz he follows me on Dexcom and he's like, you probably should put on the new pump. But, um, but yeah, so maybe not my best night as a diabetic, but

Scott Benner 4:46
we're gonna get into why you're haphazard with your hair later. But you just said your husband, and you've had diabetes for six years and you were diagnosed when you're 18. And so any and I mean Any knowledgeable listener of the podcast has just said to themselves. Oh my god, there's another Mormon on the podcast. Right? Am I right?

Unknown Speaker 5:09
Yeah.

Scott Benner 5:11
How is that I ask everyone, everyone that comes on who ends up being a Mormon? Because I don't double check on your, your religious beliefs before you go on the show. why in the hell is this podcast so popular in the Mormon community, you need to tell me somebody is eventually gonna tell me there's the news, like, Am I on a message board somewhere? Or?

Adriana 5:33
Um, you know, I actually heard of your podcasts when I. So here's maybe another stereotype. I'm Mormon, I'm an I already have a kid, just one. But

Scott Benner 5:46
please, you're not even Mormon, you have one kid, you need like six.

Adriana 5:50
But I was at an ultrasound for, for when I was pregnant. And the radiology tech told me, you know, found out I was type one. And because I was in the fetal medicine, and she said, Oh, you got to listen to this. So it was really just word of mouth that I heard, because I've never heard of your podcast before. And at that point, I had been diabetic for maybe four years.

Scott Benner 6:19
Okay. Was she part of the church?

Unknown Speaker 6:23
I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 6:24
I didn't ask her you have to find out from what

Scott Benner 6:26
I mean. I'm not saying like, hang up and call. But at some point in your life, if you could just take your drive and find like, that's the place I got my ultrasound, let me just duck in real quick. And check. You know, you could probably just check her underwear to say, and then you'd be able to figure it out, right? And tell me because I'm dying to know, like, Listen, honestly, as I joke about this, there's been like, 350 episodes of the podcast, I believe, like, maybe eight guests have, you know, have been from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints somehow, but and I'm sure I probably had on 7000 Catholics, and I don't realize it or anything like that. It's just such a, it's interesting, because you talk to them more. I know, not every Mormon lives in Utah, but I'm just gonna make a lot of generalizations that you can just correct me on at any point if you want. But it's not a densely populated place. And so like it, it stands to reason that somehow the podcast is being passed about within there. And I'm just I'm trying to find out how and so I asked everyone, you didn't help me? It's fine. We'll figure it out? Well,

Adriana 7:30
well, let me tell you this, I think especially, maybe it's not even religious, but it's just more the Utah culture is that we, that really, we do try to help each other out, you know, just neighbors, being neighbors and helping each other out. And really just we want that supporting. I know, there's, I'm already a part of multiple Facebook groups that are just a part of Utah for type one, and, and so it's an any, I think, maybe this isn't just Utah two, but any diabetic I need. I'm like, oh, we're on medically best friends. And we start talking about, you know, just the typical day to day things, because we can relate. And I think that's maybe why is that we get to hear perspectives and say, because when I was first listening to you, I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I get that and understand. It's like, I can relate. And even though I can talk to my husband about this, and he lives it day to day with me, but it's just different. hearing it from somebody else.

Scott Benner 8:38
No, I understand that. And so you feel like maybe you just happen to live in a community that that prizes, the idea of personal interactions and sharing what works with one person with another person. Just that kind of an idea.

Unknown Speaker 8:51
Yeah, that's excellent. All right,

Scott Benner 8:53
be my best. Listen, you I have to be honest with you. That is so far, thusly. The best interpretation of why it is. And most people are just like, what, I don't know. But you actually had like a thought. Alright, that makes us interesting. Okay, good. diagnosed at 18. You and I know this is great. I grew up in the religion or married into it.

Adriana 9:17
I grew up but I almost kind of hate saying that too. Because then people think, oh, you're like a blind follower. But I grew up but of course, I had my teenage years and, you know, rebellion and and stuff. And I, I've found the church for myself to be true. Cool. All

Scott Benner 9:35
right. I was just wondering how like, at what age do you start, you know, talking to your uterus and being like, Listen, it's gonna be you and me. It's gonna be tough at times. We're going to ask a lot of you, you're probably not going to be worth crap by the time I'm done with you. Just so you know. And but we're gonna get our mileage out of you and you are really, really going to do your work here. I didn't know if you had personal conversations with it or not. I would I'd be like, Listen, we got business. I don't know. But do you have that? Like how many brothers and sisters do you have?

Adriana 10:06
I just have one younger brother.

Scott Benner 10:09
He's ruining my. I am trying to set up a narrative here. Damn it and you are just ruining it. I'm just kidding. I'm totally.

Unknown Speaker 10:20
I totally get it.

Scott Benner 10:21
We've gone way too far into prognosticating that uterus is gonna get beat up. So let's just keep moving. What What is your hold your baby? What's her name?

Adriana 10:32
So I have a little boy, his name's Ellen. And he's about 16 months. And so he is walking and not quite using all of his words, but he is jabbering away all the time. And it's just, it's awesome. I really love this age, because I can actually, like, play with him now. You know, he can walk around and everything's exciting. And it's just, he's seeing the world for the first time. And that's, it's really fun.

Scott Benner 11:01
I agree. I completely agree. And it is a terrific, it is an absolutely terrific age. You know, in the beginning, they're just sort of like, their furniture, you move around, and it poops like so then, you know, eventually you start like, Oh, look, it's doing something and then they move and then they have their personalities start to develop. It's a wonderful time you get to stay with him all day.

Adriana 11:22
No, I actually. So I work as a medical assistant, I work in a family practice clinic, and but I only work three days a week. Um, and so yeah, so it's not too bad. I feel like and I've been working for about a year or so. And after maternity leave, and it's, it seems like the perfect kind of balance, you know, three days at work, and then I get four days at home. And so it works out that way.

Scott Benner 11:53
Excellent. Now, that's great. I'm happy for you. I really am. And it's right here us we're filling the pod and getting everything going again, where did your blood sugar? Do you have a feeling for how long you were without insulin?

Adriana 12:06
i'm john, I think I was probably maybe three hours or so.

Scott Benner 12:13
What do you think about sugar? Got to?

Adriana 12:16
Oh, I know. Because I checked my Dexcom and I was up in like the 330s or something. And so that's definitely a little too high for me. Yeah. Um, but Well,

Scott Benner 12:28
let me let me find out a little bit about how you like manage, like, what it is that you feel like your goals are and how important they are to like, you know, I mean, like, everybody has a different focus for their desires about their diabetes. So what do you what do you aim for? Like, what's your goal, day to day? Um,

Adriana 12:46
well, because you can set your own ranges on the Dexcom I have mine between 70 and 150. Usually, so I was like, double where I want to be. Mainly because, you know, as Owens getting older, we are, like thinking about starting to have more and and so I want to bring my sugars back down. So I can have that, that good control before I get pregnant again. But after I had Oh, and I was like, because during pregnancy hormones, just make it crazy. Make your blood sugar crazy. And so it after I had him, I was like, Oh, it's just me, I'm not taking care of somebody else inside of me. And so I kind of let go for a while. And so the last like, couple months, I'm like, Kay, let's bring it back in and get that take control. Again.

Scott Benner 13:41
Jenny Smith and I just recorded yesterday, a pro tip about a pro tip episode about pregnancy. And that was one of the things we spoke about is that after you have the baby and all the things that can come with that you can have postpartum you could just be tired, you could just be busy, that kid might not sleep, you know, all this stuff. And what's the easiest thing to cut away when you're looking for time, and it often ends up being yourself which is, you know, of course, terrible on any level. But when it's around your diabetes, it's, I guess it's a little worse, honestly. So you were just like, Alright, I'm gonna pull this back the what are the first steps in pulling it back together?

Unknown Speaker 14:22
Um,

Adriana 14:23
well, mainly, me and my husband try to eat pretty healthy. So we try to we try to really meal prep better and just focus on what we're eating. And I actually have a friend who's a registered dietitian, and so I was getting consults from her as well and and really trying to set those alarms so I checked my blood sugar, you know, or give insulin before meals because oftentimes, I'm ready to eat and I'm like, Oh, I didn't give it Bolus any before and but Or there's even been times because at work, it can be so, so busy that I actually actually forgot to give insulin before I even ate. And so I had my meal and I was back at my desk and I'm like, Oh, I got my alarm that my, my sugar was going up like, Oh, well, I need to get some insulin in me now. But, um,

Scott Benner 15:22
where does this usually lead you to? For? Like long term results? You have a, you know, where you're a one sees usually sit, would you be willing to share?

Adriana 15:31
Um, yeah, I'm, I'm due again for my agency. But like three months ago, I was 6.8.

Unknown Speaker 15:40
Excellent. So that's wonderful.

Unknown Speaker 15:42
Yeah,

Adriana 15:42
I feel pretty good about it there. But still, I'd like to see it a little lower

Scott Benner 15:46
here. But you know, it's still it's very respectable, at the at the, you know, at the very least, and you're talking about healthier foods. And there's a difference between healthy whatever that ends up meaning and impactful on your blood sugar, which is, is sometimes people get confused about, I think they're like, I don't understand what's going on, I eat this very healthy thing. It doesn't mean it doesn't have, you know, an impact on your blood sugar. So are you did you go lower carb? Or are you cut out junk? Or like, what was the, like, when you look in the kitchen, you were like, one thing needs to leave here? What was it?

Adriana 16:27
Oh, it was more. I have a very sweet tooth. And I maybe say, too many jokes about that. You know, I'm like, Oh, I'm diabetic. So of course, I'm sweet. And I need to eat that cookie or something. But, um,

Unknown Speaker 16:44
but yeah, it

Adriana 16:44
was mainly kind of cutting out junk. You know, of course, I don't need as many sweets as I want during the day. And but yeah, a lot of the health, like, the nurse practitioner that I work for she recommends the Mediterranean Mediterranean diet. And, of course, that's a lot of carbs. Because they try to cut out meat or that not protein, but more animal based meats.

Unknown Speaker 17:17
And so a lot of

Scott Benner 17:19
a lot of those plants have carbs in them. And yeah, and everything that falls into that? Well, I just say that. I think if you know how to use your insulin, you could do that easily. That's not a problem. I mean, you're able to see six, eight. So it's not like you're not lost, you're doing great. And I don't know that, you know, you know, if somebody wanted to be low carb, I don't, I don't see a problem with that either. And even if I did see a problem with that, I don't think I would say I think it's everyone's business to eat the way they want to eat. But you're you've already touched on the things that really make a difference. are the things that are sort of, you know, nebulous, it's the remembering to Pre-Bolus or not getting busy at work, and that and it happens to everybody, like I don't know, anyone, I don't know, anyone who doesn't just one day, grab their food, sit down and go, Oh, you know what, I have diabetes I should have for my kids guy forgot about that, you know, it just really does. And one day, you're gonna have 23 kids, and it's gonna be harder to remember. So we have to find a system for you. That's going to help. And, but but you really are interesting, because you're two people. To me. You're, you know, an adult married person with a child. And you're still also just in your mid 20s. And I remember myself in my mid 20s. And I mean, I had a kid too, but I was pretty much an idiot. You know, I didn't really know what I was doing yet. I actually was lamenting the other day. I'm 48. I don't even know 100% know if I've grown up yet. To be perfectly. Like I think I might be a man in like seven more years is what I'm hoping

Adriana 18:55
my father in law says if you don't grow up by the time you're 50, you don't have to

Unknown Speaker 18:59
so Oh, really? You got

Adriana 19:00
a couple more years? Yeah.

Scott Benner 19:02
Let's wait two more years, I can just let this whole thing go. You're saying? What do you think? What do you think he means by that? Like, people have accepted you now and they're not looking for real growth from you? Or it's working, so don't worry about it.

Adriana 19:14
Maybe I'll leave the interpretation up to him.

Scott Benner 19:17
Yeah, I'm leaving it up to me. I'm saying these people are stuck with me. They've stuck with me this they're not gonna bail now. Like, do you think I'm gonna look up divorce rates after 50 for first marriages, maybe? Maybe you're right, maybe people are just like, ah, too much trouble to move the desk. I'm staying. Yeah, so I was gonna say can you tell me a little bit about your diagnosis at a team where you just out of high school or were you still in?

Adriana 19:46
Yeah, um, I was in my first year of college. And I you know, college food is super great. Just Top Ramen, peanut butter and jelly. Lots of cars. And I was moved down to Southern Utah. And so it was really hot. And I was drinking water all the time. And I just thought it was because I was in a new place. Um, but I, the interesting thing is I didn't lose a significant amount of weight. At least, that I noticed, you know, I wasn't in the hospital, crazy. I came home. And I decided that I was going to serve a mission for, you know, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. And so you have to do like a, we call it a mission physical, but it's just a physical with your doctor. And they found sugar in my urine. And they, they thought that I was type two at the time. And I have working in a medical clinic, I don't know, what was going on what they were seeing. Because now that I know and where I help other patients and things I'm like, Well, why didn't anyone second guessed this because they thought I was type two, and put me on Metformin for a little over a year. And my sugars just weren't getting any better. And I got, they told me I was diagnosed with mono at one point. But I think I was going into more of DK. And finally, I got a second opinion. And she did the antibody test for me. And then type one ever since.

Scott Benner 21:37
Yeah, it's so surprising, isn't it? Because Metformin should impact a person with type two more quickly than a year like it shouldn't take someone a year to go ha, this still isn't working? It really just it shouldn't. And that's sucks. And it even goes to show a person like yourself who works in the situation that you do can still be moved by what the doctor is telling you like, I mean, why would you? Even if you kind of doubted in your heart, you can't, it's hard to break away right from the doctor telling you Hey, you have type two diabetes? Like why would you just believe that? I guess? And what happened? What happened at the end of that year that made somebody go like this isn't working? What was the next step to figuring out you were type one?

Adriana 22:21
Well, no. So that second opinion, I got my primary care who diagnosed me as type two ended up moving away. And so I had to go, I was, you know, basically forced to go to a new physician, which I didn't mind. And he was just looking at all of my symptoms. And my history is like, this doesn't add up. Because I wasn't working, I was still going to school and getting into my program at that point. And so I wasn't a good enough advocate for myself, either, simply because I wasn't aware. But thankfully, this new physician second guessed it and said we need to do more blood work. And was surprised that we didn't do the antibody tests right off the bat, either. But, um, but yeah, so

Scott Benner 23:14
how did it feel at 18 to be told you had type two diabetes? Was it in your family like, did that? Was it not surprising where you're like, Oh, that makes sense. Everybody has type two in my family, or how did that? No, no,

Adriana 23:26
no one on either side of my family has diabetes. Later, when I was diagnosed type one, then we found out that my grandpa had pancreatic cancer, which of course has, you know, red flags in the back of my mind, but but no one has type one or type two diabetes on either side of my family. And so it was just strange. And in, I didn't eat super well in college, because I don't feel like maybe anyone does, especially freshman year, but so I was like, Okay, I thought maybe, okay, it's just diet. I can do this. I can change. But as I was learning more about diabetes to in my health classes, I'm like, something's, something's not right. And so, thankfully, between that and the doctor, we were able to, but it just, it was hard. Especially poking. I didn't know about Dexcom and I was poking my fingers all the time. It was just it was hard.

Scott Benner 24:41
Well, I think since Adriana is talking about Dexcom, we should just jump right into the advertisement for them. If you're using insulin, your blood sugar may vacillate, it might go up and down and feel at times like there's just no rhyme or reason for it. But when you use a Dexcom GE six continuous glucose monitor, you can begin to see trends, you can begin to understand how different foods and insulin impacts your blood sugar. And then you can make adjustments to stop those impacts from being well, so impactful on your life. I wish I had something more clever to say than that. But you start to learn when to use the insulin, how much you need, what foods impact your blood sugar's, and from there, things just sort of open up. Dexcom offers alarms, alerts, beeping, you call it what you will. But you get to decide where it happens. My daughter's are at 70 and 120, we get a alarm when my daughter goes below 70. And when she goes above 120, you can set your own range and make your own decisions. Dexcom gives you that kind of freedom. And you can share if you'd like your blood sugar's with up to 10 followers, and this is on Android, or iPhone, you really, really, really have to check it out dexcom.com forward slash juice box, the information that we get back from ardens Dexcom g six is at the core of every decision that gets made about type one diabetes. My daughter's day one C has been between five, two and six for over six years. And while those are, you know, the results that we have, and yours may vary, I really think that the information you get back is valuable when you're using a Dexcom. And as a statement of fact, I really don't think we could have those results, especially with no diet restrictions. Without the Dexcom g six. The Omni pod tubeless insulin pump is just that an insulin pump without tubing. The Omni pod has nothing for you to get caught on a dresser drawer handle a doorknob. And you know, you don't have to take it off to go swimming or take a shower. So you're always getting that basal insulin that you need. The only pod is discreet and easy to place in ways that won't be so obvious to others. But at the same time, if you don't care if someone sees your insulin pump, you can wear it loud and proud. It really is up to you. My daughter has been wearing an omni pod since she was four years old, and she is 16. Now she's been wearing one every day for all of those years. And the Omni pod has been a true friend through this journey with Type One Diabetes. The best part about Omni pod is that they offer a free, no obligation demo, which means you don't really have to, you know, even believe me if you don't want to, all you have to do is go to my Omni pod.com forward slash juicebox and Omni pod will send you out a demo, you can try it on it and wear it and see what you think for yourself. In the end, they want you to make a decision that is best for you, you get that demo and you don't like it. It's okay. But if you love it, it's super simple to keep going with the process and get yourself a nominee pod just like Ardennes. So check out dexcom@dexcom.com forward slash juicebox. Get that on the pod, no obligation demo at my Omni pod.com forward slash juicebox. And of course, don't forget to check out touched by type one at touched by type one.org and find them on Instagram and Facebook. right there's a lot more to come with Adriana. Let's get back to it.

I mean, it would be bad enough at 18 to be told you have type one diabetes, but to have something that I think people generally think of as being an older person's issue. Right? I know it's not the case. But still it would feel like that in the moment. You know, like, wow, this isn't like this doesn't happen to 18 year old people. And I just can't imagine that being just difficult to understand and really confusing. How did your parents do? Like, was it just one of those things where you're like, Alright, well, she has this and they gave her pills, and they made sure you took them? Or was there? Like, like, was there a lot of conversation around it? How did it? How did that work in that first year.

Adriana 29:22
More My dad was in the hospital quite a bit so that he was kind of my motivator to become have my career be in medical. And so and I was 18 I was going to college I had moved out I I was an adult at that point. And so my parents were there to support me and love me and help me in any way they could. But it was it was kind of my, you know, trial and my thing to go through. And so they wouldn't say did you take your pill today or you know, have you checked your Sugar, but they were there if I ever needed something or if I had questions and I could come to them, but

Scott Benner 30:08
were you away at school? Or were you living at home and commuting?

Adriana 30:13
Um, no. So I live in northern Utah. So it's, it's a six hour drive down to the school that I went to.

Scott Benner 30:20
Gotcha. So they weren't even. Yeah, I mean, listen, that makes sense. The your dad had like, chronic issues, that stuff he was dealing with.

Adriana 30:29
Yeah, yeah. So he has had his own chronic issues. And, and yeah, so they, of course, just like any Mom, I, you know, I'd call her and talk to her. And she would ask how I'm doing and, but eventually that summer, so I got diagnosed, like in December, but I went back to school for the rest of the spring and came back in the summer. And and so they were maybe a little bit more helpful, like to remind me say, Oh, well, did you check your sugar? But, um, but really, it was all up on me? Yeah,

Scott Benner 31:04
no, I mean, listen, it's a unfortunate moment. Right? Like, right? Is it like, you're in college, you're just not home anymore, like, even a year and a half sooner, you would have been around them more often? Who knows what they would have seen? You know, it's, I mean, you'll know now, and you probably have figured it out over the last 16 months, but you're really paying attention to your kids. When you're a parent, you're like, oh, something changed, or, you know, a lot of that going on. But, yeah, I mean, it worked out right, in a year. So when you find out that you're type one, how does that change things for you? Was it a relief?

Unknown Speaker 31:38
Or

Adriana 31:40
I feel like it's hard to say it's a relief, because, you know, everything you read on type one, there's, there's no cure. You know, you're you have to have for the rest of your life. But type two, I was like, Okay, I can fix this, I can get better. And then I was told I'm type one, and it was

Scott Benner 31:59
felt like something you couldn't fix anymore.

Adriana 32:01
Yeah, I couldn't fix it. And, but it didn't get me down. I was like, Okay, I can deal with this. And by that point, I actually had already married my husband, Chris. And so I was married. And then just a couple months later, they diagnosed me as type one, which then brought on a whole lot of other emotions, like, I felt almost kind of guilty for Chris. Because then there's this huge financial thing with insulin and insulin pumps and doctor appointments. And and I'm like, Oh, you didn't get to really know about this. You just, you know, it just happened. But of course, he has been my, my best supporter through all of it. And he has been amazing. But for me to bring that it, you know, I it makes me feel a little guilty. Yeah.

Scott Benner 33:05
Yeah. It's, uh, you feel like you feel like you brought an extra burden on to an early relationship? Is

Unknown Speaker 33:10
that it? Yeah, that's exactly.

Scott Benner 33:14
Well, I mean, I couldn't be hard to disagree with how you feel I could see feeling the same way. And I've heard and talked to a lot of people who feel that way. I mean, the only thing I could say is that, you know, if he doesn't feel that way, and you guys are discussing it, and you know, in it together, it's, it's not going to be, you know, a burden. It'll just be it'll just be another thing, like, you know, call a call diabetes. Somebody Jenny told me the other day, she thinks of diabetes as a toddler, that just that never grows up. Maybe it'll just be that like something you always kind of have to fuss with a little bit and needs help and can't quite take care of itself, etc.

Unknown Speaker 33:52
Yeah.

Scott Benner 33:53
Have you ever asked him? Is he does he feel burdened by it?

Does he feel burdened by it?

Adriana 34:07
I've asked him before and he's like, well, it's, it's just what it is. And if it wasn't diabetes, then we would most likely have something else to have to work through. Because marriage isn't easy. And but it's something to work through and to. And so I just really locked out

Scott Benner 34:28
a guy. That's excellent.

Adriana 34:30
Yeah. Yeah. And he, he himself is going into school for nutrition too. So he helps me out that way. And it's, it was just kind of great. That I found him.

Scott Benner 34:44
Good for you. Did you meet him in in high school or college?

Adriana 34:48
No, um, I actually, I actually met him online. I met him through a dating app and Funny enough, his brother in law met his wife through the same dating app too. And

Scott Benner 35:07
please tell me there's a Mormon dating app the rest of us aren't aware of.

Adriana 35:11
Is there actually is. We didn't meet on that one. I would have used that one. But I know

Scott Benner 35:18
j date does j dates. So I'm asking you like you would know that was that's for Jewish signals. I wonder if that still exists. I'm looking it up as I cheat. Ajay date still exists. JD calm. Okay. So yeah, you know, that's makes sense to you. You met him? All right, what grabs you first, when you're meeting somebody like that? Is it a photo or something? They said, and then what do you do next? Do you text or call? How does that all work? I'm very old. So none of this will make sense to me. But explain it to me anyway.

Adriana 35:50
Yeah, so there's, you know, obviously, there's a profile picture and but then, like, kind of like Instagram, you can kind of look through a couple. And then usually there's a short little profile, and they can say whatever they want there. And but the interesting thing that caught me to Chris, is that because most of these guys are like, like muscle pictures, and you know, trying to show off, and Chris had a quote, an inspirational quote, as his first picture. And I thought, Oh, my gosh, he was this weird he, and, and then we just started talking. And of course, he had a picture of himself later, but he made a point to have like an inspirational quote first. And as we continue to talk, then, you know, I could just kind of feel that we were that he was genuine. And so it was really more so through conversation is how I looked at it, but

Scott Benner 36:51
Well, that's lovely. And so he didn't do something corny, and are trying to show you his guns, right. Like he was just like, look at my look at my biceps. Pick me Pick me. Now, when you get a hold, like when you when you, I don't know, either you swipe or you click or you do something? And does it start as a texting, I know it has nothing to do with diabetes, but this is just texting, and then you decide if you want to call.

Adriana 37:14
Um, so. So I'll be honest, the app was Tinder that we were on. So that's the one that people always joke like, swipe right on our left. And so you both have to swipe right. I believe it's been forever. But you both have to accept that, Oh, I like this person. Hopefully, they'll say I like you too, and make sense. And then it sets up like this chat within the group in the text or, sorry, the app. And then from there, if the conversation goes, then you can either meet up or give them your number or,

Scott Benner 37:47
you know, it'd be more of a competitive Bloodsport, if not, if both people didn't have to agree. It was just one like I agree. And the other ones like I don't like too bad. You have to talk to me now. And then we started. You got on the app, it's your fault. Strange conversations with people you don't like. But that's, that's really cool. How does that make it feel? We'll see you. I'm interested, honestly, because you're in a very specific age range that doesn't feel impersonal to you. Right? That feels normal.

Unknown Speaker 38:19
To sorry, explain

Scott Benner 38:20
your question to meet someone digitally doesn't seem impersonal to you. Is, am I right? To say that? I'm not saying it is I'm saying it doesn't strike you that way. Um,

Adriana 38:35
I had enough conversations on there. But you can, of course, online is can be a scary world, but with, you know, with limits, and now I didn't feel like it was impersonal. I felt like I've had pretty good conversations through there. But of course, you know, you have to be safe online.

Scott Benner 39:00
No, no, yeah. 100%. I just, it's a very, like, understand that. When I was 1918 1920 years old, like I had to go somewhere in public see a group of people choose a person that I thought was attractive, and then wander over to them to find out that they did not care for me in the least bit. Like that hadn't happened right in front of them. They had to like you had to watch someone's face go. Ooh, really? No. Why would you think that? I would, oh, sorry, excuse to walk away. Right. Like that had to happen. And it had to happen to you a lot. Before. You know, some people be like, Hey, cool. Let's you know, I'll keep talking to you. So anyway, I can remember anyone over a certain age is listening right now is like yeah, there's nothing quite like being turned down face to face.

Adriana 39:51
Oh, yeah. And let me tell you, I've definitely had plenty of those too. But I I started using the app when I came Back home. All my friends were still at college or, you know, out, they were out on their own LDS missions. And so there wasn't that, at least from what I could find wasn't really that dating group available to me when I was home, so, so yeah, but yeah, I'd much rather than in person but that's kind of just how it went. And you know, I'm grateful for it.

Scott Benner 40:28
That's it seemed I mean, obviously worked out really well. It's, it's cool. I'm not judging it at all. I just I, you know, yeah, no perspective on it. Listen, before we get back to diabetes stuff, there's another listener who's telling me I should live in Ken knob, Utah, K and a B. I can I can NAB Is it a wonderful place? They're selling me pretty hard. So is it?

Adriana 40:52
Yeah, yeah, can NAB is beautiful. That's more of the Southern Utah to and it's, you know, Red Rock. It's definitely desert. But, but then you can get to mountains and it's beautiful. And honestly, I I do love Utah. Because you can kind of get all sorts of different landscape from green, lush mountains and lakes to, you know, Salt Lake City and to Red Rock down in southern Utah.

Scott Benner 41:23
Yeah, I have to be I'm looking for a place to retire where there's no humidity, and it doesn't snow much. That's pretty much my goal. So but is it gonna snow on me and Utah?

Adriana 41:34
In northern Utah? Yes. When I was living, so I lived down in St. George for college. And there was a little bit of snow but it I don't think we got more than a couple inches. That's not

Unknown Speaker 41:47
perfect. Yeah,

Adriana 41:49
up in northern New time. Definitely used to a foot or two. Yeah,

Scott Benner 41:53
I don't want that. Oh, not good. I'm not I'm not looking for that. I it's those here. And I don't need that one. I'm old. Oh, hold on. Alright, so I seriously I know, I joke the beginning but seriously asking, like, what are your plans? Are you? Are you going to have a baby again, soon? are you sticking with one for now? Or what's the play,

Adriana 42:18
we definitely want him to have siblings. So really, I kind of have a lot of pressure on myself right now. Because I'm like, hey, I want to be a little bit more in shape. And I want to get my agency down as low as I can get. But then again, that's kind of how I was before we had it all in and it's it just, you know, you kind of just have to go for it. And just trust that everything's gonna be okay. And because being pregnant with type one was, it was kind of scary.

Unknown Speaker 42:55
How so?

Adriana 42:57
Just, um, I've had multiple friends, or people that I follow, and they've had babies and they've been born early. Like as like 32 weeks early, and, and they've had conditions like heart conditions, or they've, they've weighed like 10 pounds or more and and then the moms themselves have had issues with too much blood loss or.

Scott Benner 43:28
And this all stems from just not having that kind of low tight control that is recommended during pregnancy.

Unknown Speaker 43:35
I don't even

Adriana 43:36
want to say it's because of control. I think maybe there were some other kind of factors too, because I don't know all of their health history, but I do know that they're type one. And, and really, Pregnancy just changes your body like crazy, everything changes. But then to add type one in that blood sugar control, and how much it actually does affect your baby during all of your trimesters, then, that's where I'm like, okay, I want to give the best chance possible for our next baby. And, I mean, we were, we were very blessed and had Oh, and he was two weeks early, but he was already eight pounds, 11 ounces. And and that's partly why we had him early is because he was just getting more and more weight.

Unknown Speaker 44:28
And I had a lot of

Scott Benner 44:29
fluid and he had to get out, right, like, unless you're gonna create like a zipper pouch or something like that. There's, I mean, how much bigger Can he get before you're like, Hey, you know what, leave him in there. Because not looking for this problem. But well, you know, it's funny because I really did just have this conversation yesterday with Jenny. And we talked about three months like she said, I said to her health house, like how long before I plan on getting pregnant? Should I begin on this process if my blood sugar is not already Ready, where you know where a person wants it to be. And she's like, I gotta say, three months, like you have to get down, get stable, and be in a position where you're doing it on purpose, and you're having results consistently, that leave you in the range that you're looking for with pregnancy. And, you know, she's like, you just mean that, sort of the thing that both of us came up with is that it you know, you obviously people get pregnant, not on purpose all the time. But if you're planning it, she was like, the first step is, you know, get your blood sugar's where you want them in a way that are controllable meaning that you know, when you do something, your blood sugar's react the way you intend, not like, I got lucky, and my blood sugar wasn't high today, but I did it on purpose. She's like, then you have to go find a good high risk doctor. And like there was, there's a lot to think about, you know, and a lot of

Unknown Speaker 45:51
green.

Scott Benner 45:54
Will you use the same people you used last time? Like, how was your experience with your physicians and everything?

Adriana 46:00
Oh, I loved I loved my doctors. They were, they were great. And they were, they worked well with each other too, which was probably the most I could ask for. Because my endocrinologist couldn't be in the hospital. He didn't have privileges there. But my endocrinologist is just amazing, too. Because he, he texted me, he gave me his number. And he's like, hey, let me know when you're going to have the baby. And I'll text you, you know what we need to do maybe with your settings, and he would look at my Dexcom reports. Just online every couple weeks and let me know if I need to change anything. And so, but then they also worked my ob and my endocrinologist and my high risk. ob just worked so well together. It's nice.

Scott Benner 46:51
It's great when there's a good meshing between them. But you said your endo didn't have privileges in the hospital. She was sort of like Cyrano, he was just kind of hiding in the bushes yelling up to the window about what to do next. Make your basil higher. Did you were you're pumping your Dexcom it during your delivery?

Adriana 47:13
Yeah, I did. And, you know, my labor was it was horrible. They induced me. And I was in labor for like, 30 hours. And then they finally said, Hey, how about we do a C section? And I'm like, thank you.

Unknown Speaker 47:28
Why didn't someone have this idea? Yesterday? Thank you. Right,

Unknown Speaker 47:32
exactly.

Adriana 47:35
But I think partly too, because I was a first time mom and I told them I wanted to try. And, you know, I was we were so close. But it just I had a big baby. And I'm kind of a smaller stature. And so he just was not gonna come out. But But yeah, I was able even through the C section, they let me keep my Dexcom and Omnipod on and my ob made a specific note to say, Hey, keep her ducks Come on the whole time. She's in the hospital, because the nurses told me they'd have to come in every hour and poke my finger in check. And I'm like, nope, here's my phone. Just tap the screen and you can look at my blood sugar. Please don't wake me up. Just look right there.

Scott Benner 48:22
These are my last days to sleep. I really don't want you to wake me up. Use this thing right here. You can have my phone, read my text. I don't care. Just let me sleep.

Adriana 48:35
Especially after that long labor, I was I was exhausted. And so thankfully, all my nurses, everyone was just great. So it was a good experience other than the length. But it was good. That's excellent.

Scott Benner 48:50
Good for you. I mean, it's important for everybody. It really is because there's a lot of you have to be careful, I think. Because you have to have a lot of different thoughts that you can't have, you know, like your high risk. ob knows a lot about high risk doesn't necessarily mean they know a lot about diabetes. And your endo knows a lot about diabetes, hopefully, but doesn't necessarily mean they know a lot about high risk pregnancy. And so you need everybody's, you know, everybody's input is is very important in that situation. For sure. Did you get tough any point in the nine months that didn't feel long? Or was it difficult to keep your blood sugar's where you wanted to? How did you find the actual process of doing it?

Adriana 49:32
The first trimester felt like forever because we wanted to wait until I got into that second trimester to really to tell people because you just never really know how it's gonna go in.

Unknown Speaker 49:45
And

Adriana 49:46
it honestly felt like I kept having low blood sugars in that first trimester and I don't know if it's because I was trying to overcompensate and I'm like, I wanted my sugars to be nice and low to make sure the baby was okay. But then as I kept progressing in the second trimester, and the third third was the hardest because just all those hormones, I was having to use almost triple the amount of insulin I was used to. Yeah, to keep my blood sugar's under range, but not uncommon. How

Scott Benner 50:19
did you find that the first time you did it? Were you prepared for that huge jump in insulin need? Or was it tough to make that decision the first couple of times, like I'm gonna put this amount in?

Unknown Speaker 50:30
Well, thankfully, my, well,

Adriana 50:32
I say my endocrinologist, but he's also a nurse practitioner, but he himself has type one. And he was like, Hey, I have this insulin, the fiasco insulin, right. And that just works really well and faster. And that helped me to keep it under control as best as I could. But still, I was using a lot. So he was really, I think, between me being aware of it and trying to keep it under control. And my endocrinologist being so good as well, then we both were able to work on it. But

Scott Benner 51:13
he had a good group. It sounds like, yeah, nice. That's excellent. I mean, he must have been thrilled that it went well. Right like it. Was there worry. Even though things were going pretty well? Did you find yourself concerned? Or was there a moment where you just got comfortable? And you're like, you know what, this is going okay, I don't have to, I don't have to worry, at least.

Adriana 51:34
No, I was. And maybe it's first time mom anxiety too. But I was so worried. You know about normal mom things too. Like, oh, how am I gonna stay up all night? Or, you know, how am I going to take care of the baby, but but also, how am I going to take care of the baby and keep my sugar's under control and with the kind of the perk of being a high risk pregnancy as you get a lot of ultrasounds. And so that was fun to be able to see him a lot. But then every ultrasound leading into the third trimester was like, Oh, he is a really big baby. Oh, he's getting bigger, bigger. I'm like,

Scott Benner 52:16
my vagina is not that big. What are we doing? Let's stop now.

Adriana 52:21
Yeah, how big is he going to be? And of course, Google is the worst thing for first time moms. I, I had a friend Tell me Don't Google anything. And then of course, you know, you do a little bit and because just trying to see how much your baby's supposed to gain weight. And that third trimester because it's like a half a pound almost every week and the last couple weeks. And I'm like, oh, and he's already eight pounds. How? How many more weeks? Can we go?

Scott Benner 52:53
What's the scariest thing you googled while you were pregnant? That the thing that you just really read and thought I shouldn't have done this?

Adriana 53:03
Um, probably, anytime you look up like symptoms like this, this was after pregnancy once I had one. And I, you know, he just I think he was teething for the first time. And I didn't know what was going on. And he was having diarrhea and use fever. And he was super whiny. And so you look up all those symptoms, and which I should know better because I work in a clinic, but I'm like, Oh, he's he has cancer. You know, it's ridiculous.

Scott Benner 53:34
Right? Yeah, I hear that. Well, I just go with what happens to a vagina during childbirth. And let me just tell you don't Google that either.

Unknown Speaker 53:42
I could have told you that.

Scott Benner 53:43
Yeah. You know, it's like, as I was typing, I was like, Is this just for funny? Or am I really not gonna want to Oh, goodness. And then I read the first thing and I thought, yeah, no, I don't want to know any of that. Okay, that's enough. Now I hear you, there's this and there's, there's time to be informed and there's time to not worry yourself in diabetes and and every other aspect, especially raising kids, and I hear what you're saying, like the worry that you're just gonna mess it up, in a myriad of ways is real. The pressure like, Am I going to be a good parent? Like, I know, I'm not going to be but how is it and then you start thinking, I'm gonna mess something up. And I tell you to get to existential for a second, but I feel like I'm a pretty good parent. But still, I know that right now, today, or yesterday, or next week, or last month, I've done something that my kids or my wife don't enjoy, and I don't know what they are, because I'm doing my very best, you know, and so that even that's a weird pressure like always thinking about, you know, I'm trying to help these people or support them. Love them. And I wonder what I'm doing that they're just like privately in their minds thinking, idiot, get away from me. You're completely doing this wrong.

Adriana 54:59
My husband And I, the first week, once we had Owen home, he was like, he's alive, he's breathing. He was fed, we're doing fine.

Unknown Speaker 55:10
You know,

Adriana 55:10
there's not much more you can ask for. And as long as he's breathing and alive and loved, then there's not much else you can do each day. And honestly, that's kind of what got us by because those first, really the first month or two with a newborn, it was hard. It was hard work. But, of course, I would say it's worth it. And of course, as we've been talking, it sounds like I'm gonna do it again. But

Scott Benner 55:37
we have no choice, really. But I hear what you're saying. And yeah. When you say it got hard, what happens to you, when you're trying to make space and time for other things when you stop taking the same care of yourself, because I lamented with Jenny yesterday, that the thing that I worry about most for pregnant women is that as soon as something gets tough after the baby comes, the first thing they give away is their own health. not recognizing in the moment, I think that keeping that that health where it's at will benefit so many other things, you probably should cut something else away, then you know, the concern for your own health. But when it happens to everybody, even people without diabetes, I've done it, you know, you don't sleep as much as you should, in the pursuit of taking care of somebody else. And a number of other other situations where people give away a little bit of who they are to be there for someone else. But when it comes to diabetes, it feels very dire to me when I think about it. But But what was the first thing that happened? Was it making meals that were good for you? Was it Pre-Bolus Singh? Was it even just paying attention when your blood sugar was high? Because if I can be honest with you for a second, not that I haven't been so far. But the idea that your pump ran out of insulin while you were sleeping, and that you did not spring up and change it. I guarantee you sounds like a different story to parents of type one diabetics than it does to adults who have type one diabetes, I bet you those two different groups of people heard that story two different ways. You know, it's interesting for me to hear your perspective as a person living with it. So I don't know what I just asked there. But I'm just very interested in how that happens. And if you know what's happening while you're doing it, if you're like, Oh, I'm giving up a little myself here for somebody else, or is it not that conscious?

Adriana 57:40
Yeah, and just even kind of re hearing that two out of your words like, yeah, if that if Owen was diabetic, and he needed that insulin pump change, I would have done it right then and there. Yeah. So it, it is interesting to think that way, like I would care for my child right on the spot. But if it's for me, then it it does wait maybe an hour or two.

Scott Benner 58:02
And, and you're a bright person, and you're well educated and you care about your health and everything. What happens in those two hours? Like, are you just like, you playing games on your phone? Or are you busy or like you don't mean like, what's stopping you from going, because I'm not a great time manager. But the one thing that I do well, is that I, I prioritize on the go. So I have a way that I think of the things that are going to get done today or or even thought about. And as soon as something becomes more important than the other thing. I I slide those things and change positions in my, in my mind, and I don't think twice about like, Okay, this is more important. Now this moves here. What happens to me what happens to you in that time?

Unknown Speaker 58:48
Um,

Adriana 58:48
I would say that my family always would say that I am willing to give up a lot of things for other people. I am a caretaker, I will take care of somebody else first, because I know that I'm fine. And those two hours I know, okay, my sugar's a little higher, but

Unknown Speaker 59:09
I'm okay.

Adriana 59:11
And, you know, I'm up and moving. I'm trying to, you know, get things ready for the morning and trying to get my baby cleaned and dressed and fed. And, but I knew, even though I knew I needed to get a new insulin pump on, like, I knew that I was fine. At least for the time being, I knew i'm not i'm not going to leave the house without getting my insulin pump on because that is a priority before I leave because I want you know, I want that insulin or want, like, extra snacks or something to bring my sugar up because I want to be prepared that way. But I I'm a mom, and so I'm taking care of my house and my family first and and, you know, I knew that I would get to it. And I knew I'd have time to sit down and get to it. But I just

Scott Benner 1:00:07
I'm not coming down. I hope you realize like, I'm not judging you. I'm really just interested because I hope you can feel that. Yeah. Yeah. Good, good, good. Yeah, I listen. I hear what you're saying, I the sprinklers on the other day, and I only want to leave it on for 30 minutes. And I was like, I don't feel like going back outside. And I could feel the money like leaving my pocket. And you know, it's not health, but it was still I was just like, what is this gonna cost me five more dollars not to get up right now and turn off that thing? Maybe? I don't know. Yeah, I was tired. And, and I do think if it was my own health, I would react differently than I do about Ardennes. And I don't even know what that says. Like, I would die. You know, I would consider myself a person who has a caregivers mentality as well. But I would tell you that over the years, it's become evident to me that there were some things I gave away, that I didn't have to give as much of it away, there would have been a way for me to manage other people's needs and mind better. It didn't have to be. It was it didn't have to be an all or nothing scenario. That that's Yeah, I think if I were to give you one piece of advice, I would tell you, I don't think it's an all or nothing. The way you're thinking about it. That's all there. That's what I got out of the extra 20 years I've lived in you have. Yeah, you would think I would have learned more than that in 20 years. But that's pretty much all I have to say.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:34
Oh, well. Thank

Unknown Speaker 1:01:35
you. Yeah, seriously?

Adriana 1:01:37
Yeah, it is something. Of course, you know, we're always trying to progress and improve and But yeah, I think slowly, but surely, I'm learning and learning to to delegate and say, Hey, you know, Chris, can you can you feed around because I need to, you know, eat something or I need to change my insulin pump. So yeah, there's, you know, it's kind of even almost the same mentality of when we had open as a newborn, like, Hey, we're alive, we're breathing, we're doing okay. is kind of almost sometimes how I feel like with diabetes, like, Hey, I got my sugars, you know, pretty well controlled today. I ate today. So we're good. But, but, you know, each state has its own struggles.

Scott Benner 1:02:25
I cannot say that. I don't understand what you're saying. I want you to know that other people listening are really impressed. And I'm probably just hanging on now through the the end of the hour. Because they're like, Scott didn't even ask her about her magic underwear at all. Which is something excuse me, which is something that I have. I you know, it's funny, my wife doesn't listen to the to my podcast, or me, in case you're wondering. And we were talking the other day, and I said, I have somebody coming on, you know, tomorrow that I'm going to interview. She's younger. She's a kid. And she asked how old you were. And I told her, and she just oh, that's that's not you know, we were young like that. And I said, Oh, yeah. I said, She's a Mormon. She's got to get going. She needs like, 20 more kids. And she goes, really? And I said, Yeah, I said, I said, a lot of people who are in the Mormon religion end up on the podcast, my wife goes, really? And I was like, he she goes, why? And I'm, like I said, I couldn't begin to tell you, I asked every one of them and they don't seem to know. And so we started, we were talking about it for a minute. And she's just like, that's really interesting. And I said, Yeah, I said, I learned a lot of things. I don't, you know, I wouldn't normally know I said, You know, I said I ask every one of them about their magic underwear. And now my wife's face turns blank, because she does not know what I'm talking about, and is probably 100% sure, I'm thinking when I'm looking at her, that if there is such a thing, I mischaracterizing it or giving it a name that doesn't completely consulting to other people. And she's like, you do not say that other people. And I was like, wait, what are you talking about? I said, first of all, people who are involved in the Mormon religion have better underwear than we do. That's just a fact. And secondly, I think it's magical. I can't say for sure, but I've heard stories. And so why would I not ask people and my wife is real serious. She goes, why would you ask them? That's the wrong thing to ask them. And I said, I think you and I have a very different idea of what these podcasts should be about. She's like, obviously, that's like,

Unknown Speaker 1:04:24
Oh,

Scott Benner 1:04:24
is it comfy? It looks comfy. Is it comfy? Are you wearing it? Now? Tell me please.

Adriana 1:04:29
Yes, of course. I wear it every day. But, you know, obviously I have different pairs. You know, just like, I hope everyone does

Unknown Speaker 1:04:38
the same pair every day. Well, thank goodness.

Adriana 1:04:42
Let's clarify that.

Scott Benner 1:04:43
When do you get it when you're married? You don't have it before? Right?

Adriana 1:04:47
Um, well, it depends on each person, okay. In our religion, so if you see, like our temples, there's a process called the endowment And so we get to go to the temple and we get to, that's when we get to get our garments and we make promises to our Heavenly Father and

Scott Benner 1:05:12
in exchange, that's lovely, real tangible thing to take with your life. In other religions they give you like flowers or, you know, they'll rub some like schmutz on your forehead or something like that. You can't do anything with that everyone needs underwear. And it's called, they're called God, you refer to them as garments, though, is that right? Yes, they

Adriana 1:05:33
are gardeners and, and we do wear them every day. Of course, you know, if we're going to go swimming or something, then we don't wear them, but, or, you know, any activity, like if I'm going to go, like, sometimes we go out mudding like in our trucks or something, then, you know, I don't want to get them dirty. But if, if there's a time and place to wear them, then I wear them. But we do wear them. Because, you know, rather than flowers or something because it is supposed to help us remember those promises that we made. And so it's, it's kind of like, you know, you have a special like your wedding ring to remember. You know, your marriage and all of that. And so it's it's basically like that, and, and I'm probably, you know, butchering exactly the right,

Scott Benner 1:06:25
you're not you're not a spokesperson for the church, I'm just getting your opinion. Here's what I'm thinking while you're talking. They made it underwear so that when you were thinking of having sex with a boy, it'd be the last thing you saw before you were naked, you'd be like, Oh, I did make some promises, they would just want to remind you of those promises. Right before you know your boobs are out, I think is exactly what this was about for boy's penis, but you understand what I'm saying? I do have one question. And this is going to need you to infer into my stupidity. Why do I think they're magical? What did I hear once that makes me say that? Or do you have no idea?

Adriana 1:07:04
Well, you know, I've heard stories, but of course, it's it's stories, and I don't I don't know the truth to them. Because I don't know when, like, someone's specific to me with a story. But I've had I've heard stories that people you know, how I was riding my motorcycle, and I fell, I got in a crash and I fell off. But everywhere else got skinned up, but where I was wearing my garments, and I'm like, where you can say because we're pulled, you know, we wear them to be protected. Because we you know, we made promises and we and to have faith and but it's I almost I look at it more as to remember what I've promised not as a protection, necessarily. But so I wouldn't, I wouldn't say they're magical, but I would say you know, they they helped me keep the kind of mindset I want to have

Scott Benner 1:08:04
that makes sense. And listen, I've googled magic underwear while we're talking and interesting. Temple garments come right up. But here's what I've learned. And I'm gonna be serious. There's Wikipedia stuff, but then there's also you know, there's some people saying look, please don't call it magic underwear. It's insulting and it's like, Oh, damn, alright, well, it's too late. Now we've already recorded my voice saying that and and going on, but it did come back to it. I'm not the only person who's ever said this out loud, obviously, because I got enough returns. I also got a couple of lovely pictures of G strings and something called the shape mint. Empty tattooed all day, everyday high waisted waistband, which I don't think is Mormon. But the girl does look kind of magical in them. And but it's uh, you know, it's just really, I don't know, like I find it fascinating and not in a way that I really probably shouldn't be joking around because I don't feel jokey about it. It really is just something I don't understand. And I'm always looking and by the way I've asked six people now and six different people said six different things so I'm just saying I need to find out this is it this is my only way to find out my wife of course if she could hear me right now it'd be like leave that woman alone. Why are you

Unknown Speaker 1:09:23
bothering

Adriana 1:09:24
Well, I will I will tell you this because you know i think you know it is up to each interpretation but if you if you want to really know like the church's stance on I mean, I should have a better a better verbiage for you about it,

Scott Benner 1:09:42
but you got a little kid you got diabetes. Don't put that on yourself. Seriously, am I making you feel bad about this? Let's stop. Oh, no. Okay, no,

Adriana 1:09:50
I'm just like, I should know better because but i do i. Anyways, what I'm trying to say is the church you know their website. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints does have a cool little video that really does show the garments and explains what they are. So I mean, if you, if somebody is really curious, or they have a video about it, they're not secret.

Scott Benner 1:10:15
Let's see why they think they were secret.

Adriana 1:10:18
Well, that's the other thing I've heard from people is like, Oh, it's, there's things that are secret and like, no,

Scott Benner 1:10:24
you're not telling anybody about them? Well, not. No, not everybody can see it. But still, it's you know. Yeah.

Adriana 1:10:32
I mean, I'm not gonna tell somebody what color of underwear I'm wearing. You know, just if I wasn't wearing garments, you know, it's just

Scott Benner 1:10:39
be private. Yeah. There's nothing to say there. I hear you. Yeah. All right. Listen, we've learned a lot and nothing. And that makes this a perfect podcast episode. It really does. I want to make sure. Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you were hoping to talk about? Because I'm, you know, a babbling lunatic. So sometimes it's not. I'm not very good at getting through things, but anything at all? No, I

Adriana 1:11:06
feel like that's a pretty good, pretty good explanation of diabetes and me and kind of, yeah, it's just day to day.

Scott Benner 1:11:17
Cool that night. I appreciate that. I feel like here's what we learned. If I were to sum up this episode, you found out you were a type on when you're 18. They thought it was type two for about a year you took Metformin figured it out wasn't that much relief, because it felt more like oh, wow, like, this is not something I can really impact and make go away. You met a boy on Tinder. He said something nice that made you think he wasn't just a muscle head? Then you gave him your babymaker and you're working on it. Now you got one go and probably 10 or 12. More coming? your underwear is not magical. But hey, if you fall and don't get scratched underneath it, what's it hurt to say if it is, and diabetes is difficult while you're pregnant is difficult while you're raising a baby. But you're trying to get things in better order for yourself. So you can be a mom for your children for a long time. How'd I do?

Adriana 1:12:12
You know, that pretty sums up our conversation. No, I

Scott Benner 1:12:14
did it. are you right now? Like I can't believe he was listening cuz it seems like he's

Adriana 1:12:22
when you say all like that, like, Oh, that's really what we all talked about.

Scott Benner 1:12:27
And by the way, we'll leave this part in for people who always ask me how come the episodes titles aren't about what it was about? So you tell me what should I What should I title this episode? I know why you laughed because you just thought magic underwears that why

Unknown Speaker 1:12:44
exactly.

Adriana 1:12:47
That would be good. But no, no, it's not. It's well, because when I first contacted you, I I was trying to start kind of a blog of my own which then I realized being a mom with a little kid and working through COVID it's that didn't work out. Yeah, no, no What time is short. But um, but I'm a Latter Day diabetic and that's that's who I am.

Scott Benner 1:13:17
Latter Day diabetic is probably going to be the name of the episode. That was very good. That's it. But now of course, you have to understand now that in my more Honestly, I'm like ladder with D's or T's. I'll figure it out later.

Adriana 1:13:32
latter tees, but yeah, yeah. So yeah, it was great. Though, thank

Scott Benner 1:13:39
you very much. Hey, if I come to Utah, or my politics so like, they will they like just push me back out of the state? Or is there a forcefield that I'll run into for having no being liberal or anything like that or no? Right now, although now they're really conservative people listening, you're like, Oh, I'm sorry. You have plenty What?

Adriana 1:14:01
I was just gonna say the more and more people I see move in are actually from California. And there's this like, ongoing joke of people moving in and they're like Utah, and they have like the shape of Wyoming. They're like, move to Utah, and they're trying to push them over to Wyoming.

Scott Benner 1:14:18
Alright, hippies, I'm on the way, don't worry about it. I'll come. We'll balance this all up. It's so funny. Because when we're just now when I was talking, I thought there are five of I don't I never think about the political leanings of people listening to the show. I have no concern about it, and I don't care. And I do think that if you listen to me, I don't probably feel very liberal. And it's funny, I'm not, but I really am. And so I'm very liberal about some things and I wouldn't call myself conservative about anything, but I have more conservative ideas about things that you wouldn't expect maybe. I'm sure a lot of people can, you know, talk about themselves, and probably Feel like the idea of like, I'm really kind of down the middle on most, you know stuff overall. But yeah, I get worried about that sometimes like, I'm like, if I go there, well, they just Can they see it on me or will they? Can they smell it?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:13
Oh no,

Scott Benner 1:15:15
that guy probably voted for a democrat once we got to get requests. You know, like and then I find myself like in some desert in Utah being eaten by snakes. By the way, are there snakes there that are poisonous?

Adriana 1:15:27
Um, we got rattlesnake.

Scott Benner 1:15:28
I can't. I'm sorry. I thought this was gonna be a real idea. But I see now I can't. And I'm out bears. rattlesnakes, humidity, snow. These are things I need to avoid. I'm delicate.

Adriana 1:15:42
Yeah, we don't have humidity here. So you won't get that. But we do got bears and mountain lions. And

Scott Benner 1:15:48
so I gotta have a gun. Like just to walk outside at night.

Adriana 1:15:53
Hope sometimes when you're in the mountains, but

Unknown Speaker 1:15:57
yeah,

Scott Benner 1:15:59
I'd have to figure out how to shoot a gun first, then. There's a lot to do.

Adriana 1:16:03
You come to Utah. I'll teach you how to shoot again.

Scott Benner 1:16:06
Well, yeah, that's a nice that That's lovely. I'm gonna make sure your blood sugar's nice and stable. First, I don't want you out there. 350 showing me how to shoot a gun. I'll be like, Adrian, how long is that pod? been on? It's been on the whole time. How's it before we start? How do you feel, by the way, after an hour to get your blood sugar back down? You feel better?

Adriana 1:16:24
Um, you know, my blood sugar is still a little higher than I want it. But, you know, it does feel good to. I can always feel People always ask me like, how do you feel when your sugar is high? And I'm like, there's not really a good answer for that. But the best way that I feel is like, that sour stomach kind of feeling. And, you know, maybe just not. Yeah, that. And just not completely in my head, like, kind of that foggy feeling. But Well, listen, here's

Scott Benner 1:16:55
a practical idea for you that I use when I didn't bring it up at the time, because we didn't know each other well enough an hour ago. But now I feel like I've seen your underwear. So we're good. And I would have put well seen, you know, by understanding the greater picture, you understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah, you made me embarrassed, I can't even say what I was gonna say is I would have slapped that pod on. And I would have like doubled the basil for Arden for like an hour. Right away. And Bolus a correction for the number. And maybe like even a little more like I would have crushed it like because a new insulin pump site sometimes is not as you know, effective as it as it will be in an hour or two or a day. So I kind of pushed more insulin in that scenario, especially with the number in the 300 I would have pushed hard and drinking water. You should be hydrating to get that out of you. And you're an adult and don't need me to tell you any of that. But that's the things that like I would have done for the people listening Oh, yeah, please. Alright, listen, this has to stop or you and I are gonna strike up some toward online affair. And we already know we can, you can be had through an app. So I don't want to ruin your beard or mine or anything like that. It's very nice, very much to me December to being that you're basically a child and I'm almost a senior citizen. So I really appreciate you coming on and doing this. I genuinely do. A huge thanks to Adriana for coming on the show. And adding to that ever growing list of Mormons that have been on the Juicebox Podcast. If you'd like to be on the podcast and you think you have a great story to tell, reach out, find me Scott at Juicebox Podcast calm. And if you're a Mormon, and you know why this show is so popular in Utah and within your community, please, I want to know Thanks so much to Dexcom on the pod and touched by type one for sponsoring this episode of the Juicebox Podcast Get yourself a free no obligation demo of the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump app my Omni pod comm forward slash juice box and check out that dexcom@dexcom.com forward slash juice box. If you can't remember that there are links in your show notes and links at Juicebox podcast.com. And don't forget touched by type one at touched by type one.org or on your social medias, Facebook and Instagram. Thank you so much for listening. be back soon with the next episode of the Juicebox Podcast. I genuinely appreciate you listening. I love it. When you tell somebody else about the show. Please subscribe and an app. And what else? Oh, if you're really into management stuff, check out the private facebook page Juicebox Podcast, type one diabetes. And if you just want to keep up with the show on Facebook, it's bold with insulin and Of course, I'm on Instagram at Juicebox Podcast. I feel like I'm on a roll. So if you're looking for those diabetes pro tip episodes, they're right there in your podcast player, they begin at Episode 210, where you can find them at diabetes pro tip com, looking for defining diabetes there in your app as well. Just search defining diabetes, they'll all pop up. And if they don't, you can find them at Juicebox Podcast comm too. All right, that's it. It's the beginning of the year. I'm super excited for season seven to be going on. I hope you're enjoying it. It's gonna. It's gonna be great. Why would I say otherwise? you imagined I was like, Whoa, season seven. train wreck. It's on the way people stay stay. But it's not. I got good stuff coming. You want to know what? All right. Um, no, I'm not doing that. Although I am looking right now, at the next three episodes. And they got goodness written all over him. You want like a sneak peek? Hmm, maybe? Maybe? Well, I won't I write one little tease. You know how we always have adults on her like I was diagnosed with type two diabetes. And it turned out I was type one. You know, and they're like 25 and 28. And everything. Soon, someone's coming on who was diagnosed with type two diabetes and had type two diabetes. Have some stuff coming up about a service dog with Esther. And Jaden is going to be on the show very soon. James young man who I just recorded with, and his episode is terrific. I can't wait for you to I'm going to give you that one next week. How about next week? We do Jaden and the service dog episode, or do we want to do the type two? I don't know. I'll figure it out. So

I'm still here. I didn't go anywhere. The hours mean nothing anymore. days are blending together. I don't even care what time it is. Stuck in my house. Has nothing to do whole worlds upside down. All right. That was a bummer. Should we do something fun at the end? Why don't we make fart noises together. I'll count the three. And then we'll all make a fart noise. So wherever you are right now, you're in the grocery store, or your kitchen or driving in your car. I don't care. Now just lick the palm of your hand. Like if you're in the grocery store, maybe don't like the palm of your hand. Just but I mean, you know what live dangerously so you lick the palm of your hand. And then just press it up against your mouth and it only works with really need two hands. Hold on. Sorry. I tried it with one hand that did not work. I'm going again. If you did that, seek mental health counseling. You really shouldn't be listening that closely to a guy on a podcast. Although if he did it You're my people.