#1460 Jakob Blow
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Jakob has T1D, is 29 years old, a paramedic firefighter. Has only recently been on a pump and CGM since 2 years ago. He’s married and has 1 kid. He’s had diabetes since he was 7-8 years old.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Friends, we're all back together for the next episode of The Juicebox Podcast. Welcome.
Jakob 0:14
My name is Jacob. I'm a type one diabetes. Have been for well over 20 years now, and decided to come on and hang out with Scott for a little bit and see if we can't get to an interesting conversation today.
Scott Benner 0:26
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Jakob 2:04
My name is Jacob. I'm a type one diabetic. Have been for well over 20 years now, and decided to come on and hang out with Scott for a little bit and see if we can't get to an interesting conversation today. That would be awesome. How old are you now? I am 29 so I was diagnosed when I was seven years old, and actually right around this time of year, because the only thing I remember from my diagnosis is it was a couple weeks before Halloween, and I was pissed.
Scott Benner 2:31
People are talking about sugar, and you're like, Whoa, slow down. I've been waiting for this all year. What are you talking about? Yeah, yeah, pretty much. What do you remember about being diagnosed beyond that. I don't know what
Jakob 2:42
it was about Mondays, but every Monday I would throw up at exactly 10am for like, the two weeks prior at school. I think my mom made pancakes and syrup every morning, Monday morning when I went to school, and that might have been it just spiked my blood sugar like you wouldn't believe, threw up on the girl that sat next to me twice during that process in what was that second or third grade? So she wasn't super fond of me.
Scott Benner 3:04
Jacob, the first one was on purpose. The second one, did you think we know she can take it so we'll go this direction? What do you mean?
Jakob 3:10
I'm not really sure. I think I always kind of tried to wait till the last minute, like, oh, this will pass, this will pass, this will pass, this isn't going to pass.
Scott Benner 3:17
And too late, Yep, yeah. So
Jakob 3:21
as my parents put it, I was all of, like, 40 pounds at seven years old, I was like a skin and bone they said, when we were finally got diagnosed and were in the hospital, they saw me walk out of the bathroom and, like, just my boxers one day, and they're like, oh my god, he looks like a Holocaust survivor. Like, really, really,
Scott Benner 3:37
just thin. And were you thin to begin with, and then obviously you lost more weight around the diagnosis, or were you not than you were? I
Jakob 3:46
don't know. I'm I'm a thicker, I don't like, I'm not really thicker. I'm just a big, kind of, like, not big. I don't what's the word I'm looking for here. I
Scott Benner 3:55
love it. Like, this is awesome. Wait a minute. I know I'm not,
Jakob 3:59
like, a skinny rail. But I've, other than when I let myself go a couple years ago, I've never been like, fat right
Scott Benner 4:08
to let yourself go on purpose. Was it like a decision? Were you like, Hey, let me try this now? Or no,
Jakob 4:12
it was honestly just I let myself go for a while there right after my wife and I got married, and then
Scott Benner 4:21
Jacob's, like, got one I'm done, yeah,
Jakob 4:24
lower physical activity just wasn't doing as much. Sat around the house a lot more and, like, it was, like, two years ago, I looked at myself and I'm like, holy crap. I'm 220 pounds. Like, could
Scott Benner 4:35
I get this lady to go out with me again, if she wasn't already, like, pot committed? Yeah, so I see, did you ever hear her go, oh God, like, or anything like that? Like, did you like,
Jakob 4:47
No, we never. We were actually going through. We were cleaning a bunch of stuff out yesterday or the day before, and we found some old pictures from right around right after our wedding. And I was like, Oh no, no, no, no. Oh no.
Scott Benner 5:00
Did not know what happened.
Jakob 5:03
I No, I didn't realize it, honestly at the time, yeah, and then I started the job I'm working now. And when that happened, I was like, hey, hey. First off, I was like, Hey, I gotta get my diabetes under better control, because it's, you know, a requirement of the job. Even though I've been doing it for a long time, I went from a small department that didn't really care about, you know, if I was taking care of myself or not, to a big department that, literally, I would probably get let go if my diabetes wasn't within the specs that it was supposed to be in. What kind
Scott Benner 5:36
of work do you do? I'm a firefighter, paramedic. Oh, okay, and they were, they were paying attention to your ability to, like, say, walk up some stairs and hold something at the same time. Yeah,
Jakob 5:46
exactly. So I got hired at the job I'm working now in 20 what is it? 2024 so 2022 into 21 I think so. I'm coming up on two years with my department I work at now. And when I got hired, I was heavier, but like, my a 1c at the time I got hired was also like, 8.6 and my last a 1c I had drawn two weeks ago was a 5.80 wow. Well,
Scott Benner 6:11
we'll get to how that happened. And you're bringing back bad memories of me, like running hose up and down stairs and, like, fold gear, and it's no wonder I can keep doing that. Geez, a lot of work. Yeah,
Jakob 6:24
trust me, we had, we had a training the other day where they blacked us out and basically threw us inside of a large warehouse with just us and our crew and a bag of rope, and said, find your way back out. And by the way, there's someone in there. Go find them.
Scott Benner 6:39
Nothing like it. So you've crawled on your hands and knees just following a wall on your right side, hoping it led to something. It's a not a not a great feeling. We're gonna do a right hand search today with your eyes closed. Great. It's awesome. Well, yeah, I'm telling you too, for anybody who's wondering about it, like just go somewhere in your house, put your right hand on a wall, go down on your knees, and then try to get to something. And then imagine wearing boots and pants and a coat and a bottle on your back and breathing through a tube and the pressure of the place is on fire. And see if you it's just really, it's crazy fire. School is something I will never forget. Honestly,
Jakob 7:20
don't forget, you're doing it in a house you've never been in before. You can do it in your house. You know where everything is, yeah,
Scott Benner 7:24
yeah, yeah, right. Well, I didn't want to tell people to walk into their neighbor's house and say, Hey, I gotta try something real quick. Don't bother Don't Don't mind me. I'm gonna go try to find the bathroom. Damn. Yeah, exactly. So, okay, so you're diagnosed young. You vomit on some kids. She don't like you anymore. You move through your life. How like, what is your care? Like? Who's helping you, who's not helping you? What are your outcomes?
Jakob 7:48
So for the longest time, I was MDI, I would say almost all of my diabetes life, until a year and a half ago, MDI, long acting, short acting, and like cuma log in Lantis. So even two years ago, when I finally decided to switch to a pump, I was cum log in Lantis, no, CGM, no. Just finger sticks if I even really ever did that, I did a lot of how I felt and not how I actually was.
Scott Benner 8:18
You know, what I tell my daughter about that? Right? No, what if how you felt was a good way to manage this, I wouldn't have to buy all this stuff for you. So,
Jakob 8:27
yeah, yeah, yeah, I realize that now.
Scott Benner 8:31
But see, you didn't start regular, mph, though, right? You started with humologue The
Jakob 8:35
first couple years. I might have been regular, and I remember having like there was a cloudy vial that we had to roll. You had to mix one at bedtime or meal time. I don't really remember. It was so long ago, okay,
Scott Benner 8:48
but you did so you did start there, though, yeah. And my point about that is, is that that sets expectations, and it sets up your your care guide. So at some point, your mom was probably told, eat at certain times, inject at certain times, like that kind of stuff,
Jakob 9:04
yeah, and I vaguely remember that, but I also went to probably the largest children's hospital in the area that I'm in. So I felt like it was pretty progressive, pretty quickly, of like, okay, hey, we've gone from you eat 30 carbs at dinner, and 1515, gram snack here, and a snack here. And, you know, we went from that to a, hey, here's a carb ratio fairly quickly. I want to say it was within, like, a year or two of diagnosis. Jacob,
Scott Benner 9:35
I was trying to bail you out here, but apparently you knew what you're doing. And,
Jakob 9:40
yeah, no, no. 100% I knew what I was doing, and I just didn't care for a while. I will say, I mean, I love my parents. One of the things I will say, though, is I think they let the reins go a little early on me and let me manage myself. And I think some of that was me pushing for that, when maybe they should have tried to be a little more involved with that. Still, but you have kids? I yeah, I got a three year old.
Scott Benner 10:03
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Jakob 13:09
Yeah. I mean, they were pretty involved through like, middle school, but then as soon as I got to high school, it was all over. You know, I was, I was eating whatever I wanted. I think the big thing that kept me not into like, A, 10, a, 1c, is I've always been into sports. I've always been super active. So even if I was hitting the two or three hundreds, I'd jump in the pool at water polo practice, and I'd probably be 30 by the end of practice. Yeah,
Scott Benner 13:34
but this was a lot about numbers and not a lot about health. Is that right? Exactly? Okay, yeah, that's tough. Like, I mean, listen, Arden's 20 now, and you know, you are constantly walking a line between, you know, helping, where help is needed, staying out of it when you know you want to, obviously give her space to grow, right? Also, you know you'll see like, you know, 15 years from now, like kids pushing back and finding, you know, like setting boundaries between their parents is really healthy. So you want that to happen, but you don't want that to happen in exchange for a 350 blood sugar the last six days. How do you tell somebody I trust you and Jacob, I know you're, I know you're a good kid, and I know you care. And blah, blah, but you're also, you know, this old, and you're not bolusing all the time or whatever. So it's such a weird balance to try to walk. And I was, I was talking about it with a much older person than I, which is to say something, because I'm pretty old. They don't have a kid with diabetes, but they are an endocrinologist, this person I was talking to and they were talking about just parenting their own children, and like saying, like, look, my kids don't have diabetes. They're in their 30s, and they still sometimes call us and ask questions, and you're still, I'm like, oh my god, is this never gonna stop? Like that. That's what I took away from that. I was like, Wait, this is gonna happen forever. I was like, Okay, I don't know. Art and I are finding our way through it. It's not smooth, you know what I mean? Like? Because she sees it from her perspective. Doesn't give a shit about my perspective, and I'm trying to take her perspective into account, and she doesn't think I am. So it's a classic parenting situation, diabetes or not. But then you you know, you mix in the health outcomes into it, and it just feels dire. You don't want something untoward to happen, and you don't want to ruin your relationship, because then something definitely is going to go wrong. Yeah, good luck as well. I'm saying it's a lot Okay, so you screwed with your family. You told them you were okay, you weren't. And then how long does that go on for? Oh,
Jakob 15:42
like, literally, until probably two years ago. And I started finally looking into like, Hey, how can I get better control over this? And I think part of it was, you know, I got this, this newer job at a bigger department that actually pays attention to, like, your health metrics and all this other stuff. And I think some of that was also my kid, like my kid was getting to that nine months to a year age, and I'm like, Gosh, I really gotta do something so that I'm here for this kid in 2030, years, like my old man is for me right now, when I call him at two o'clock in the morning or eight o'clock in the morning and I haven't slept all night, and I'm like, hey, could Can you help me with this kid
Scott Benner 16:20
that I made a mistake, and it's looking at me and it seems hungry, and I'm I'm tired. I don't know if you know I got this job, it goes overnight sometimes, and I think that putting her in a closet is illegal, so I need you to come over. Is that about
Jakob 16:36
it? Yeah, pretty much. I mean, he's, he's a really good kid, I will say, even when I have those nights at work, which I have, often I work the second busiest engine company in my city. It's not uncommon to run 20 calls in 24 hours and just not sleep much.
Scott Benner 16:54
Real fires are just a mix of everything. I
Jakob 16:57
work downtown. So if you can imagine the kind of clientele we run into downtown, it's a lot of homeless, drug addicts. Oh,
Scott Benner 17:09
you're running those calls all day long, all day long, and then, and then it's to the hospital, and then back, and then again, like that cycle,
Jakob 17:16
yeah, I mean, we're, I work off an engine. Mostly we don't. The department I work for has one ambulance that we transport off of, but we, as of right now, we have a private entity that transports for us, but that changes in July of next year, and we will take it back over, but we're riding in on the engine quite a bit, because, I mean, you get some of those people that are strung out and they're unpredictable. You never know what they're going to do. So it's like, hey, let's get some extra people back here. And I say, keep you safe and the patient
Scott Benner 17:46
safe. At the end of a 24 hour shift, you're pretty beat. Yeah.
Jakob 17:49
And my son's pretty good about like, I'll come home and I'll sit in my recliner and he'll kind of curl up on my lap with a hand me the remote and tell me to put bluey on and his juice cup and be like, I'll slap you in the face when I'm ready to go play with my toys. You take naps. I'll wake
Scott Benner 18:03
you up, buddy. Don't worry about it. Yeah, I'm talking to you. Seem like a bright guy, Jacob. So like, how do you go that long? I want to say it's not a condemnation. I'm not being like, how did you do this wrong? Like, I'm just trying to understand, how does a day turn into a week and a week turn into a month? A month turn into 10 years? Like, how does that happen?
Jakob 18:21
I think I just formed some really bad habits, young, not testing myself all the time. I never pre bullish my insulin. And I actually I post bullish because I used to graze all the time. So I'd give my insulin after I ate everything, I'd be like, Oh, I ate about 12 units worth of insulin. Get that. I just wasn't so, you know, you know how insulin works. My blood sugar is spiking up and then dropping down. I was on the roller coaster for years, and then I finally decided, like, just randomly one day, I was like, hey, I want to start trying to manage this better. I want to try and get ahead of this. And I think part of what it was is during my academy for this job, I had a doctor's appointment with one of my endos that I had at the time, and he was like, Hey, I got a sample of this Dexcom. Let's try it out. And I started seeing the roller coaster. And I was like, Oh, God, this isn't good. Yeah,
Scott Benner 19:19
you know, health wise, though, did you feel okay?
Jakob 19:24
You know, I look back now and I used to be a lot more of a loose skin, and I used to be a lot more maybe aggressive, or would come off angry more often than I do now. And I look back now and I'm like, I bet you most of those blow ups I had, I my blood sugar was probably like 400 and I didn't even realize it. Yeah,
Scott Benner 19:46
how long you've been married? We've
Jakob 19:47
been together. What married coming up on four years now, we've been together since 2011
Scott Benner 19:55
High School. Did she know that about you? Like, did she think you were just volatile? Or did she. It was diabetes. I had my moments,
Jakob 20:01
and she thought it was just kind of part of my personality and who I was, and anymore, like her and I almost never fight anymore, I'm just, I'm not as angry of a person as I used to be. And it wasn't all the time, right? But it was one of those, like, frequently I have a little meltdown or a blow up. And anymore, it's like, as she puts it, is, it takes you a long time to get back to that point now, but I don't ever want to see you back at that point, because something's gone terribly wrong if you're at that point again. That's
Scott Benner 20:32
interesting, man. I'm endlessly fascinated by that just slow drop off of health and how you don't notice it happening, and, like, how you could, like, like, like, have a personality that you look back on and go, that's not even really who I am. Yeah, it's fascinating. And, and if you don't get pushed by, God, I can't, I can't, like, I can't believe, how do I put this? Like, it's crazy that you had the I can't die. I got to be around for this kid feeling. But you never had that I can't die. Being alive is pretty great feeling.
Jakob 21:03
Yeah, no, I just, I think I was also in that kind of, you know, mid 20s, early 20s, you know, nothing, nothing's ever going to touch me. Yeah, thing and, but yet, the whole time, I'm working as a, you know, paramedic, firefighter, and I'm seeing people who are not taking care of themselves, that are close to the same age I am now, that are way worse off. And I'm like, Oh, crap, how did that never slap me in the face before? Well, yeah,
Scott Benner 21:31
I mean, it's, it's max of what they call hypocrisy, Jacob, because you're like, you know these people, the drug addicts, they don't. They can't keep it together, not like me. Yeah, right, exactly. It's interesting. So you decide to take a better care of yourself. Is it like a thing where you just go, I know what the dual just do it? Or did you have to go out and find out how to manage things?
Jakob 21:55
I started searching for some more information. Got, you know, like I said, I got on the CGM, I started seeing the data in front of me, and I'm like, Okay, how do we fix this? You know, you see that spike, okay, how do we fix this? Obviously, we missed something here. I started playing around with my carb ratio a little bit. I realized that my carb ratio was way more aggressive than it actually needed to be. As soon as I started pre bullishing my meals instead of giving my meals after, because it was, you know, I was a one to four when I started looking at all this, and I realized a lot of that was covering for the fact that I was given my insulin after I ate. You know, I was way over Bolus, I think I was, or basal. I was, think I was on like, 36 units of Lantis when I finally switched to the pump right before I remember, we had dialed my Atlantis down to, I think I was on like 26 units. I was giving 11 units in the morning and 11 units at night, because if I gave the whole thing at night, I'd wake up at 4am low. Wow,
Scott Benner 22:56
isn't it interesting, by misplacing the insulin throughout your day how much more you ended up needing because you weren't just covering food or body function, you were covering that plus high blood sugars with the settings, instead of using it in the right spot and having and mitigating those highs.
Jakob 23:12
Oh yeah. And then I think part of the whole, I think a lot of it was me putting insulin in at the right spot, obviously. But then, I think another part of the whole reduction of insulin needs during that whole time was that was around the same time I started losing a bunch of weight. You know, I went from 220 to in at the beginning of 2021 or 2022 to at the end of the year, I was probably 170 pounds.
Scott Benner 23:41
Okay, yeah, so what did you do there? Was that the way you ate? Or how did you Yeah,
Jakob 23:47
a lot of diet changes. I try not to eat the crap that I used to eat, like we used to eat out all the time. We don't do that anymore. I try and focus on, like, good old, like, lean foods. For a while I went, like, super low carb. Not going back there. I still, some people still say I eat low carb, but I'm like, No, I just don't indulge myself in carbs, you know. But, yeah,
Scott Benner 24:13
it's interesting, isn't it? The difference between, like, processed food and carbs, like, we all, we all say, like, you know, like, if you're eating crappy food that's processed and out of a box or a bag or whatever, you know, you know, and you're like, Oh, I'm eating, like, high carb. You don't mean, like, I'm eating a lot of, like, roots and, you know, broccoli and stuff like that. And so I think what people say should be saying is, I eat it's tough, because I hate talking about this, because there's, you know, no matter what phrasing you use, somebody thinks they know better about eating and like, somebody else gets pissed and all. But like, I just think that, generally speaking, staying away from processed foods. If it doesn't come in a bag or a box, that kind of a thing, if it's not over processed, if you're not drinking your your. Of your carbs. I mean, those are pretty quick ways to, you know, giving your body a chance. So you look at it as like your body was, like, overwhelmed every day by what you were asking from it. It just couldn't stay on the positive side. Yeah. Okay, yeah. So wow, that's not bad. Did you change your exercise habits through there, or was that just all eating? You did that with a lot
Jakob 25:21
of exercise habits too. I went from, you know, maybe working out every now and then when I was at work to, you know, I got a gym membership. I work out. Well, I typically, you know, three to four times a week I'm at the gym between work and when I'm at home, you know, trying to, you know, I dropped to a one, I think at the lowest, I was down to, like, 160 and I looked at myself, I was like, Oh, this is not healthy. I need to put some weight back on.
Scott Benner 25:45
How tall? 580 wow, you were 582 20 at one point. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's and
Jakob 25:51
I'm like, five eight with my shoes on. Like, that's probably me adding an edge.
Scott Benner 25:56
You're like, Tom Cruise. You're like, I'm five. You know, I'm tall. I it's in the fives, yeah. Oh, that's awesome, man, good for you. You know, you do all you need to do. You turn it around. That's awesome. Now we're gonna stay alive for our kids. That's nice, Yep, yeah. What keeps you doing it?
Jakob 26:14
I felt so much better. Had energy. I woke up every morning and I was like, Oh, hey. Like, I can, I can go for a full, you know, 1216, hour day of being awake and not need a nap and not, you know, just have the energy to keep going. I feel good about myself. You know, it sucks at first, right? When you're ever trying to do a lifestyle change, whether it's starting to exercise, changing your diet, you know, you miss the sweets or all that stuff is, I changed my diet and cut a lot of that stuff out, and anymore, I'm like, oh,
Scott Benner 26:44
cake, that doesn't sound good. Yeah, it's interesting. Because, I mean, I mean, if you listen, you know, like, right? I started, like, using GLP, like, a year and a half ago, and I'm down. I'm down 50 pounds and and I wonder all the time how much of that, how much of the benefit that I'm seeing in my life is just from weight loss and just not over taxing my body, and how much of it is, like the other stuff that we're not sure about, about glps, like, is it impacting inflammation and problems like that? And I think it's some of each, yeah, but it's hard to put into words like that medication is letting people lose weight at such a clip they don't have time to like, you know how you drift it into gaining weight? You're not drifting out of it. You're losing it so fast that if you're paying attention, like, I know it happened for me, like you can actually sit back and go, Well, this is weird. I can remember how this was, because it just was, and now I see how it is, and I feel like I have more of a perspective on both sides of it than if it would have taken me three years to lose the weight, like I would have drifted lower, lower, lower, and not seen the changes, maybe because they have, because they would happen more gracefully, I guess. But there's something there, like I know for sure that I am healthier and I feel better, like you said, Not tired, like that kind of stuff, because I'm just not taxing my body as much, both with food and weight. But at the same time, I think I'm getting something else from it. It's interesting to hear people talk about about this, because you started, not in that situation, got into that situation. Sounds like an Applebee's and then, and then you, and then you made your way back again. Yeah. Did your family support this? Like, how do you like, was it a thing you did quietly on your own, or did you have a cheerleader? How did you manage that part
Jakob 28:32
of it? It was honestly kind of quietly on my own. I kind of started making little adjustments. Like, I'd sit and talk to my wife about it at night and be like, hey. Like, I was kind of noticing this. And, you know, she understands the diabetes a little bit, just because she's been with me for what,
Scott Benner 28:48
since high school. You said, right, 14
Jakob 28:49
years. Yeah, 1314, years now. But she didn't understand all the intricacies of it at that point. And then I started, you know, listening to your podcast. You were, like, the third one I found, sorry, Scott, but you're the one I've stuck with.
Scott Benner 29:05
I'm not going to ask you the two that you bailed on, because that would be wrong. I prefer it this way, because now, you know, right? Yeah. And
Jakob 29:11
you know, all everyone that I found, you know, they they're all talking about pumps, they're all talking about CGM. So I was like, Okay, I'm on a CGM. I kind of want to try a pump. I've never tried it before. I was super resistant to it, like all the time. I had had endos bring up pumps to me throughout my entire life. And I was like, No, absolutely not. Don't want it. Don't want it. Don't want it. I don't think I really understood it at the time, but I was not going to do it. And then started here in the ads on your podcast for Omnipod five, and I did some research, and I'm like, oh, no, tubes, what? Yeah, I could do that. What you can do? You know? Yeah,
Scott Benner 29:46
yeah. So, you know what's interesting, Jacob, I'm going to take the tiniest little left turn, just to say a kind of behind the scenes thing. There's a little bit of a difference between I'm an influencer being paid by a company who has a. Podcast, and I have a podcast, and people buy ads on it, which means that, like my ads say what the companies who buy them want them to say, You know what I mean, like and if I have personal experience, then I can, you know, I can pepper my personal experience through the ads. That's no trouble. But somebody's not paying me and saying, Hey, you work for us. You're an influencer. Now, go make your podcast. Does that small difference make sense? Yeah, yeah, it does. Because I feel like I know who you're talking about. Is why I brought that up. It's a slight difference because I make the kind like this conversation you and I are having. I'm not thinking about my advertisers, and I'll like your episode will pop up. It'll get sent out to an editor, it'll come back, and we'll go in a folder, and when it's ready, and I get to it, it'll pop up, and I'll look at my list and say, Okay, well, this episode is going to go on Tuesday, and on this Tuesday, these are the ads that need to go on it. I don't move the ads around because of the conversation. I don't do anything like that, like so not that I'm better. It's just how I have it set up. Well, yeah, but you know,
Jakob 31:06
and I think listening to everyone's different experiences that you have on your podcast is, like, a big thing. It's not just you talking like there's, you know, there's episodes where you talk or you're talking to Erica or Jenny or anyone else, right? But then you have these conversations where you're talking to Joe Blow like me, you know, and they all talk about their experiences, and it's like, oh, these things have worked for these people. And you have multiple people coming on that are supporting different products, right? And you can go through your podcast and pick them out and figure out what might work for
Scott Benner 31:38
you, you know, you'll also noticed that the guests aren't comprised of a bunch of other influencers and other people trying to get their thing off the ground. So Exactly, yeah, right. Also, I really might call this episode Jacob blow
Jakob 31:53
awesome. I mean, thanks
Scott Benner 31:54
for doing that. I appreciate it. No. I mean, listen again. I think if anything helps people. It helps them. I genuinely, I really don't care what other people are doing, but I think that when you're listening or reading or watching their videos, like, you have to understand there's like, a slight difference, like, I make content that people want, and then I'm able to sell ads on it because it's popular. They're making content not everybody, but they're making content that they know the company wants, because that's what they're being paid to make.
Jakob 32:28
Well, and a lot of those other ones leave out the climax of what you're actually looking for, right? Because they want you to come and pay for them to tell you how to manage your blood sugar.
Scott Benner 32:39
Those are the health coaches. Yeah, that's that's another way people use podcasts like, so you're high all the time and you don't feel well. Oh, what a story. You know, if you guys just want to take it on, the first 30 days are free. Now, once you know, you just get in there, we'll really, we'll say the whole thing to you, like, I can tell you the whole thing now. It's between Episode 1001 1025, it's completely free. Go take it if you want to rile me up, I don't enjoy the idea of people selling you health information. Yeah, yeah. It feels weird to me that you're charging somebody to tell them to pre bolt their meal, because, yeah, it's really all they're saying. You know, I'm happy that the stuff is that the podcast is popular enough that it can carry ads and I can keep having conversations like this and listen. God bless them. They can't follow that model, probably because of their downloads. I'm sure they would if they could. You know what I mean, like, I'm sure if, like, if they had enough people listening, they'd probably just sell an ad too. But anyway, it's neither here nor there. Tell me about the changes you've made, the things you implement every day and and where you think the value is coming from.
Jakob 33:39
I think more than anything, is I actually carb count my foods when I can now, right? I'm actually like, I'm one of the guys that's got the scale, right? I weigh everything I eat. For the most part, I've figured out how to swag things. For the most part of if I'm out and about, kind of being like, yeah, that's about 45 carbs. Let's start there and see where we go. And then the big thing with the the CGM is just kind of watching how, how the blood sugar reacts after I eat, and it's like, Oh, hey, I missed that. Like I went from 102 when I Pre Bolus my meal to I'm 10 minutes, 20 minutes after I finished eating, and my blood sugar is 130 okay, we missed something here. Yeah, you know, let's, let's put some more insulin in or, Oh, we're out. You know, my wife and I are out. We're going to be walking four blocks to the next spot we're going, let's make a little extra jaunt and see if we can't just drive that that blood sugar down without having to Bolus a bunch of insulin and maybe go low. Yeah, are there foods you avoid now? Yes and no, I don't eat a lot of sweets anymore. That's just kind of my thing. I don't really eat like pastas or rices that much anymore. And my grandfather just rolled over in his grave because he's a hard was a hardcore Italian. And I just said, I don't eat pasta, but it's just kind of one of those ones where I'm like, is it worth is it worth it? Is it worth the excursion that I might get? Know, am I gonna cut some zucchini up into noodles and do that instead of pasta? Yeah, yeah, that sounds really good, actually. Yeah.
Scott Benner 35:07
Has your palate changed as you've gotten older? Yeah? Oh, definitely two more whole foods. Yeah? Definitely
Jakob 35:14
like, I mean, this morning I got up, I cut up some onion, bell pepper, mushroom, spinach, some egg whites and a little bit of leftover ground turkey from last night, and made a scramble. And that was what I ate for breakfast, where, five years ago, I would have had biscuits, gravies, sausage, you know, all kinds of just heavy, dense, fatty foods that I just
Scott Benner 35:36
don't really I wonder about that too. Like, why is that? Is it just how you grew up? Is that what you thought of breakfast as I just spent
Jakob 35:42
a week with my dad hunting in the other side of the state. Every morning, he's like, Oh, I'm gonna make us breakfast burritos. I'll throw this in it. I'll throw this this in it. I'm like, hey, hey, Dad, can we just do like, there's some vegetables over there and some little bit of sausage and an egg, and I'll be good to go. Yeah,
Scott Benner 35:58
I probably eat more just eggs, like, scrambled up with a protein, than I do anything else in the morning, like, and not even and like, it's funny, like, not even eggs. Like an egg, like, you don't even mean like, it doesn't need to be all the eggs, like an egg. What I do this week, well, two, and also it seems expensive, but it's not, because, if that's really what you're eating, it lasts forever. Like, I'll go buy a couple of steaks and then make them up, and then slice them up, and then put them with the eggs in the morning for a few days, and then I'll maybe pivot to chicken, right? Like, you know, cook it ahead of time, slice it up, throw it in, rewarm it. The other day, I did, like, I went out. I was like, God, I've been wanting shrimp, and so I went out, I bought, like, I bought, like a pound and a half of shrimp, like, you know, from the from the seafood counter, like, it probably was frozen, like, wild caught, frozen shrimp, right? And, yeah, it cost, like 25 bucks, but I ate it for like, a week, you know what I mean, like, so every day I got up and I was like, Oh, I have some shrimp with eggs. And I know some people think, like, seafood in the morning is weird, but like, whatever, like, you know, I put it together, and once in a while, throw it in, like, a lower carb wrap and then, but most of the time, like, I don't need the wrap. But years ago, I would have been like, you know what? This needs toast. But now I don't think that way anymore. And if I want something crunchy to crunch with it I'll do like a thin, hard, like cracker, or like something like that, because I realized it's not the bread I wanted. It was the crunch I wanted. That makes sense. Everything
Jakob 37:30
used to go in a tortilla for me, right? Really, anything and everything and a tortilla
Scott Benner 37:34
has got to be 40 carbs. Oh,
Jakob 37:36
always, yeah, especially, I used to buy the big, massive tortillas they could make a burrito the size of a small baby. Oh,
Scott Benner 37:42
so it's 50, it's like, 50 carbs. And you don't think of it that way, because it's thin and flat and doesn't seem big, yeah,
Jakob 37:49
and then you're throwing hash browns in it. You're throwing, you know, everything else, sausage gravy. And you're like, Oh, God, that's, that's 120 carbs. I just put my body right.
Scott Benner 37:58
Also. It's grease and slowing down your digestion and extending that so you're going to get a big push right from all the carbs, blood sugar up, and then the great gravy. Jesus, you put gravy. It does sound good, doesn't it? You put gravy in there with all that fat, because gravy is not gravy. Gravy is fat, or you're frying everything in butter or oil or something like that, and then that holds up that blood sugar for three, four hours. Next thing you know, you're fighting with a 250 for, you know, until lunch, if you're lucky, yeah, exactly yeah. And your dad's, like, I did something good, like, yeah, yeah, literally shaving yours off my life. And that was nothing wrong with it. Once in a while, you know what I mean? Like I said earlier, like it becomes a ritual, and then it's what you it's just what you do. Yeah, yeah, no, man, it's, it's something Jenny and I are talking about right now, about making, um, I think we're going to do a list of processed foods that are really difficult to Bolus for, and describe to people why they're difficult to Bolus in real, shorter episodes and off try to offer an alternative to it at the same time. Because I just think that people don't, they don't know, like, if you said, like, what's gravy to somebody? And there's no world where most people would say it's fat, well, yeah, it's milk, heavy cream, butter, like, it's all fat, yeah? But in your mind, it's meat flavor. You know exactly, like, yeah. Now you could do a like a just like a thin that, then that's fine, right? But once you thicken it up, you're, you're asking for it. Oh, yeah, not that I don't listen. I can't. I'm super excited for Thanksgiving. Oh,
Jakob 39:36
trust me, like I kind of mentioned earlier, my wife's pregnant right now, and gravy has been like the craving, so I've been making a ton of it, Jacob,
Scott Benner 39:46
I'm gonna have to get a recipe from it's the one thing I'm not good at making at Thanksgiving.
Jakob 39:50
Yeah, you can't work at a firehouse and not be good at biscuits and
Scott Benner 39:54
gravy. Yeah, maybe I need a recipe from you. I think the cook, I don't know how to cook. It is my problem. Like, I don't. How to whisk it up and get it thick, and it's, I don't know why I'm not good at that, but I cheat with my gravy and pack it. I just buy it somewhere. And then I just then I thin it down with the drippings. And I go, look. It's almost, I almost made it. I just cheat on that one. Okay, like, it's interesting, isn't it? Like, just, you know, how food impacts and it's like, the last thing we think of, like, your weight goes up. You don't think about it, you know, your blood sugars are hard to deal with. It's the last thing you think about, like, it's, can't have Jenny on every day. But if I could you, and you really heard how she like, if I let Jenny come on and talk about, like, how she eats, you'd be like, Oh my God, no wonder she's so healthy. Yeah. Well, it's like,
Jakob 40:41
you know, we went to the grocery store yesterday where we did an online pickup at the grocery store yesterday because we were being lazy, you know, you looked at what we're unloading afterwards, I looked at it, and I was like, there is one thing in here that is frozen, and it is literally frozen potatoes that we'll throw in with some breakfast every now and then. And other than that, it's fruits, vegetables and meat. Yeah, yeah.
Scott Benner 41:02
Listen, it's bags, box frozen. You're asking for whatever that goes in it that keeps it from going bad. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. Like, it's not World War Two, no. This isn't what we had to pack with us so that I don't die to starvation. You know what I mean? Like, there's, there's options here, but I it's just become, it's just become how food's made. I don't even hold people like, I would never even hold people responsible. There are people who say, like, just eat better. I'm like, I don't, I don't think people know. Like, how would I like, there's a whole food, a whole store. They call it the grocery store, right? And I go in there and it's full of groceries. How am I supposed to know that this aisles? Like, I mean, listen, it's some of it's obvious, right? Like, you know, potato chips, but I guess it's not, I guess it's not. To some people, it's just not obvious. Because I put up a post today about this, about food, and I asked people like, Hey, can you tell me the foods that you know, you, you know, struggle with. You can't, you know, tell me about the foods that you've given up trying to even cover. You can't figure out anymore. Like, it's just interesting. Like, I want to see what, what people are talking about. And boy, somebody comes on in five seconds and says, Yeah, I had to stop drinking soda because I couldn't Bolus for it. And I was like, oh God. People drink soda, like, like, and then, like, you know, you look and you realize, like it's so much, like so much people drink so much soda, like there's nothing, there's just nothing redeemable about it for you and you and I think it's the same as the tortillas, like it's liquid, so it doesn't feel like a thing that could actually hurt you. Does that make sense?
Jakob 42:39
Yeah, yeah, until you realize that you're drinking a 12 pack a day, well, right?
Scott Benner 42:44
And that it's got a bunch of stuff in it that you don't not food Exactly, yeah, and I'm not pick, listen, if you drink soda, like, I'm not coming down, or you can do whatever you want, right? Like, but that's one for me, that like, I'm thrown by that a little bit, like, when anybody drinks soda, I'm like, thrown by that. Or like, you know, fruit juice, or like, you know, it's like, really, it's like, just sugar and carbs and, yeah, I'm not saying it's just if you have diabetes. By the way,
Jakob 43:07
I've been wanting to throw a CGM on, like, my wife or someone else, and just watch how, like, even some of the other high carb sugar stuff impacts their blood sugar, even without diabetes. I think that would be fascinating just for myself.
Scott Benner 43:25
Listen, I sent my my son to like, you know, out in the world, we never drank anything that was sweet like that and like that's just one of the things now, is we've never, just never done right. And he goes off to college, and then goes down south to work for a year. When he comes home, he's, you know, Hey, can I get a sweet tea? I'm like, a sweet tea. Like, what do you what I was like, Am I what are we doing just to have unsweet tea? It's just tea. It's cold. You put lemon in it, you'll be fine. It's what he got accustomed to.
Jakob 43:56
That for. He went to the south, though, didn't he like? That's, that's kind of expected down there,
Scott Benner 43:59
he was in Georgia, and that's it. Listen, when you when you drive south on 95 you get to a certain point where you can't find a diet drink in a cooler when you stop to get gas anymore. Interesting? Yeah, it just like it generally doesn't exist. And also, for people are yelling into their they stop yelling at your car. First of all, while you're driving. It's ridiculous, but I know that artificial sweeteners aren't good for you. I'm not saying to have a bunch of artificially sweetened stuff either. I'm just saying that when you're drinking calories or drinking sugar, you are you're overloading your system in a way that it probably can't fight back from. So yeah, anyway, not that you can't have a sweet tea once in a while. I'm not saying that, but whatever do, whatever you want, I don't care. I'm trying Listen, I'm not perfect. Jacob over here isn't been feeding gravy to a pregnant woman. He might be committing a crime. As far as I know,
Jakob 44:55
it's between that or dealing with a very angry and emotion. Know
Scott Benner 45:02
they're giving her gravy, like, like someone would throw a steak in a lion, is what you're saying to
Jakob 45:07
me sometimes. And as she's eating it, she's looking at me she's had terrible morning sickness, or just sickness in general, this, this pregnancy, and she's like, I don't know why I'm eating this. I know I'm gonna throw it up in an hour.
Scott Benner 45:19
Okay, good times. You should have said, Hey, I know a little girl in third grade can catch that vomit for you. Hold on a second, right? Yeah, exactly. Do you have any other autoimmune issues?
Jakob 45:28
Me personally. No. You want to talk about my family. I do what else? Start naming some auto immune disorders. And my mom probably had some. Let's
Scott Benner 45:36
go RA for your mom. Yep, Hashimotos, probably celiac. No, no. Interesting. Does anybody have the one with the blotchy What's that called? Michael Jackson? No, where'd my brain just shoot i You made me lose it too. Wait a minute. I keep going. What else does she have? Lupus? Is the
Jakob 45:55
big one? Wow. Sclederma. I can't even name all the ones she's got. I mean, if you look up auto immune disorders here, I'm gonna do that.
Scott Benner 46:03
I once thought of doing this, by the way, on the podcast, and I have a list somewhere. I meant Viti, Lago. Ah, yeah, that's,
Jakob 46:13
I know, like. So the lupus is the main one that I always remember with her. Ra,
Scott Benner 46:17
people have eczema in the family. Yeah. Oh, I guess, yeah, yes, you have that. Yes, like, I don't really, I have nothing's got just diabetes. Then, uh, oh yeah, you know I do have, um, I have eggs, anything else,
Jakob 46:31
thyroid, I know she's got thyroid stuff. She doesn't have celiac. Do
Scott Benner 46:39
you have any complications? No
Jakob 46:41
for how much I didn't manage myself for so long, I've been lucky. I think I was kind of at that point when I decided to finally start really dialing in my diabetes, where it could have gone really bad, really quick, if I hadn't made that change. I was starting to notice, like, some stuff with my eyes where, like, they weren't, you know, I was things were blurry, or I'd start kind of having black dots every now and then. And I just recently had an eye doctor appointment. He's like, Yeah, everything looks great.
Scott Benner 47:11
Wow. Like, okay, you got you got there before it happened, like, as it was happening, yeah,
Jakob 47:16
there was some numbness in my feet every now and then I used to have, like, I don't have that anymore, you know,
Scott Benner 47:22
wow. How about, uh, how about Crohn's Colitis, stuff like that in your family? Yeah,
Jakob 47:27
a lot of that stuff. A lot of cancer as well,
Scott Benner 47:32
all on my mom's side. No kidding, yeah. So that sucks. I mean, listen, I think we could probably pivot the conversation if we wanted to, and and make some pretty valid arguments about all the processed food over the last five decades or so. And, you know, you know, some of the chemicals we're using in the world, and all this autoimmune stuff too.
Jakob 47:51
Yeah, well, and I think mom's whole family has a bunch of autoimmune stuff, but it's weird. They weren't like, they were pretty healthy people growing up from everything I've I've seen or learned from them, yeah, they were farmers. Like my grandmother lived off the farm, but, like her brother still runs the family ranch. He's like, 80 years old and still doing it. He's just some kind of man that never stops.
Scott Benner 48:19
He's a man that, the man that never stops.
Jakob 48:22
I remember what was it, probably 15 years ago now, because I was in middle school, or it was longer than that, probably 20, yeah, 1520, years ago now, dad and I went hunting, pig hunting with him, out in the out in the mountains, and I was, you know, middle school, high school, my dad's always been in good shape. This guy's probably like 7075, years old at this point in time, maybe 6570 and he is kicking my dad, me and my dad's ass up and down this mountain, packing way heavier anything than dad and I have, and we're 400 yards behind him. Suck and win, and he's turning around. Come on, hurry it up. Like he's just that big corn fed kid that that's that's what he does. Thank
Scott Benner 49:13
God we didn't count on you to stop Jerry. But there's a reference that young people are just like, what? Who's cherry?
Jakob 49:24
Yeah, you'll ask me on that one
Scott Benner 49:25
the Germans. Sorry, I was making a world war one reference.
Jakob 49:29
There you go. Okay, now I get it.
Scott Benner 49:32
I interviewed this lady the other day, and she's like, she's young, you know? And she's like, I love the show. She goes, I gotta admit, sometimes you say things I don't know what the hell you're talking
Jakob 49:42
about? Well, I'll tell you this. You make a lot of movie references, and there was one that I heard you say, I'm pretty sure I heard you say in a podcast that you've never seen before, and I'm thoroughly disappointed. Oh
Scott Benner 49:53
God, do you want to list the movies I've never seen before? You'll get it's
Jakob 49:56
just one movie that I'm thoroughly disappointed that. I'm pretty sure you said you've never seen before, and it's the Goonies.
Scott Benner 50:03
Oh, I've never seen the Goonies. No,
Jakob 50:05
okay, Scott, that hurts me. Jacob, I've never seen the godfather. I haven't either. Okay, okay, my dad, my dad lives by it, and the theme song of The Godfather is his ringtone. But it's
Scott Benner 50:17
ridiculous. We used to have a list of movies that we wanted to see that we wanted to see that we've never seen. Like, I've never seen Gone With the Wind, like, stuff like, but I just, at this point now, it's so old, like, I just, I don't even think I would connect to it in any way.
Jakob 50:30
You know. See, maybe it's just because I'm, like, from Oregon, which is where Goonies was filmed, and that's just like, you, you're gonna be from Oregon, you have to watch the Goonies. I think it's an unwritten law, all right,
Scott Benner 50:41
well, let's keep going. I've never seen gremlins. I've never seen Oh God. I've never seen Animal House, wow, oh, I fell asleep while trying to watch it at a friend's house. Yeah, there's a lot of movies I've never seen that people would be like, stunned by, because I've seen a lot of movies. Yeah, you make a lot of movie references? Yeah, no, I we used to just, that's all we used to do. Like everybody we knew worked in a movie theater. We didn't pay to go to the movies. We saw everything. I'm going, I just bought tickets. We're going to a movie tonight. It's my son, who's, by the way, 24 and he might be older than that. No, he's 24 and I'm is he 24 he is. I'm glad that never stopped. Yeah, well, it's even crazier because he was born in 2000 so all I have to know is the year, and I know how old he is, because he was born at the beginning of the year. But so he's 24 I'm 53 my wife is 50, and we just bought tickets to the wild robot for tonight.
Jakob 51:36
Awesome. Yeah, super excited. I just
Scott Benner 51:38
there's something about going to a movie and sitting in a theater with a bunch of strangers that I know, if I met personally, I would hate we sit there, you know, with the same like, focus, same goal. Like, there's this one thing we all have in common, like, we like to go sit in dark places with a group of people and watch a movie, and doesn't matter, like, who they're voting for, or, you know, how they eat, or, you know, anything like, right? Like, the guy five over for me could be a giant racist, and I wouldn't know, because he loves Godzilla too. And, like, you know, so for like, two hours, you just a lot of parity. And I like that, yeah. So anyway, I love going to the movies. Oh, I can't,
Jakob 52:17
I can't sit there for that long. I'm too add for that,
Scott Benner 52:21
what's the longest movie you've ever sat through?
Jakob 52:25
I mean, I can sit and binge watch the entire Star Wars sagas and Harry Potter, no problem. No, not in a theater. Most of the movies I watch are at home. My wife tries to get me to go to the movies most the time, and I'm like, I'm gonna fall asleep.
Scott Benner 52:42
No kidding. I'm pretty sure the longest movie I've ever seen in the theater would be bitches, the hamlet, directed by Kenneth. How do you say it? Branagh, um, like, or late, mid 90s. It had to have been over four hours. Oh yeah, we saw it in the theater. There was a, there was a an intermission, but only because I'm old enough to have gone to movies when the movies were on film, like on, you know, they had to switch the film out. Yeah, they had to switch it because it wasn't like the the reel wasn't big enough to hold the whole film, yeah, but yeah. So a movie was awesome. I love that movie. My I remember my wife, we boy, we weren't either just about to get married or just gotten married. She was so sick, and I was like, we can leave, you know? And she's like, No, this movie's so good. She sat there with a box of tissues, and we watched it. Awesome. Awesome movie if you've never seen it, nevertheless, not the point. Yeah, your whole generation, like, You guys suck. I don't, you know, like, I can't just sit there. I'll watch it at home. It's not the same,
Jakob 53:51
yeah, trust me, it's I sit there, I coach high school sports, and I look at like, the kids that are in high school now, and I'm like, your generation sucks. I don't understand. So it's, yeah, it's every generation thinks that. Well, I
Scott Benner 54:05
also, I also keep up, listen, I'll tell you something. I don't pay for a lot of stuff, but I pay for the premium YouTube. I don't watch YouTube ads. I use YouTube enough that it's worth $20 a month for me not to watch ads. Yeah, yeah. So I think YouTube is awesome, like, for certain things. You know what I mean? Like, when you're trying to learn about stuff that's just outside of, like, you know what most people care about. So, you know, Netflix isn't gonna, you know, pony up for a series on or something like that, exactly. I think that's awesome. Like, you know, I'm looking at a very, very healthy chameleon staring at me. He's staring at me like, I don't know when this is over, buddy, but like, bring me a roach, and I know how to take care of him because of podcasts and YouTube. Yeah, that I learned a lifetime's worth of information in 30 days of trying.
Jakob 54:54
You can figure out anything on YouTube, if you I have found the end of YouTube a couple of times in my. Life,
Scott Benner 55:00
have you done that where you searched something you're interested in? You're like, I have seen all of this. Yep,
Jakob 55:06
everything's got the little red line at the bottom because you've watched it all already.
Scott Benner 55:10
Exactly. That's exactly, right? I had that feeling. I'm having that feeling right now because I don't want to say. I'm too I'm literally too embarrassed to say but I'm trying to, like, talk myself out of doing something by just, like, exhausting myself with it on YouTube. Does that make sense? Yeah, I've done that before. Like, if I just watch enough of it, I'll get sick of it, and then I won't do it, which I know I shouldn't do, but it really feels like I'm gonna do,
Jakob 55:39
yep, gotta. Gotta chase that. But
Scott Benner 55:42
then some of the similar like this, like simpler things, do I want to try to make sourdough bread one time? I do, but I don't want to figure out how to get a starter, and so I watched the videos, and I'm like, no good. I don't care. It's interesting.
Jakob 55:55
It's such a craze right now, the sourdough thing, I don't I don't know that I get it. Maybe it's because I've never enjoyed sourdough bread COVID. I think, yeah, every shift at work someone is bringing in sourdough bread that their wife was making. And I'm like, God, God, guys, can you stop? Can you Oh, you're just throw
Scott Benner 56:15
this away before you get to work. I mean, why do I push this on me constantly? Yeah, I listen, I started smoking meat because of COVID. Well, yeah,
Jakob 56:23
I think you get to a certain point as a father, and you either have to pick up smoking meats or World War Two history. So
Scott Benner 56:32
World War Two history, I'm not like, I'm not, I don't care about but submarine movies are awesome. I love a submarine movie I've seen. I think every movie that has a submarine, seriously, I haven't watched Das Boot on in German. I think every Oh, my God, like Crimson Tide. Have you ever seen Crimson Tide? No. Awesome movie. Awesome movie. Denzel Washington and Gene Hackman in his glory, ghost written by Quentin Tarantino. Like, okay, boy, it's good. And like, a I don't know, I don't know, what's wrong with you kids. You know, it's ridiculous. How old are you? 29
Jakob 57:19
I could be your father, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, definitely good, yeah, that's
Scott Benner 57:25
insane. I mean, I would have been young, but, like, it definitely would have been a mistake. You immediately, 1,000,000% would have been, like, you know, made in the back seat of a car.
Jakob 57:39
Yeah, those are the best kids, though, right? Yeah,
Scott Benner 57:41
actually, I'm, I'm remembering that back seat and where I was and and the girl and I, you wouldn't have turned out. Well, I'm just gonna tell you that right
Jakob 57:50
now. Oh, god, okay, good. I'll stick with the parents I got. Would you 100%
Scott Benner 57:54
Yeah? No, no kidding. How about that? Oh, like, I just had a lovely memory. She was such a nice girl,
Jakob 57:59
yeah, but I wouldn't have had a great life. Okay, no, I don't think
Scott Benner 58:02
she was parenting the two. I want to be clear, she could have changed. She was great for other reasons. Yeah, she was, first of all, she was lovely and and she could have, I'm sure she could have shifted and had children, and they were probably very successful people. When I knew her, she was a little more focused on, you know, yeah, not serious adult things, which is, which is, yeah, yeah, exactly. She was a ton of fun. I'll tell you that. Okay, so that's pretty much it. What else, Jacob, have we not talked about? Anything we should have?
Jakob 58:35
I think we covered a lot of it. It's just, you know, I've made the big changes that have really impacted myself and made me better, healthier, more than anything, right? And learned a lot from myself and keep on. You know, it's never too late to reinvent yourself as a diabetic, right? Yeah, try and get that control back under you. I just want
Scott Benner 58:55
to say, Jacob, that that means a lot to me that you would come on here and share that. And I also think that I should say that if that girl ever hears this, I loved you so much, and I'm sorry you hate me. Whatever I did, I apologize. I'm sure an older me would not have done it, but I'm certain she probably still hates me. I'm assuming she hasn't thought about me in 30 years either, but probably not, yeah, just because it just popped into my head. Now, while you because, you know, because we went through that ridiculousness, and I was like, Oh, she was great. But I then I realized she's probably, if she heard this, she'd be like, Oh, well,
Jakob 59:25
I mean, it's like the girl that I threw up on multiple times in elementary school, she probably hasn't thought about me anymore, but she probably still has PTSD from that. Yeah, can
Scott Benner 59:34
you imagine? Wouldn't it be great if it's like a thing, like, not that she's upset by but that it's like, still a story for her, like she gets around people, and she's like, I don't know. Man, there was this kid, Jacob. He puked on me, like, twice in a week. I don't know what ever happened to him. You'd be like, I'm a fireman.
Jakob 59:53
The best part is, now that I'm thinking about it is after I came back to school, after being diagnosed, and I had, like, my. First low blood sugar during school, and they made someone walk with me down to the office. Was it her treat my yet my teacher made it be her. That's
Scott Benner 1:00:08
ridiculous. Did she not see what had happened? You guys are mortal. You're mortal, mortal, mortal enemies by that point, like just girls at home making like little dolls of you sticking pins at them, and probably you're lucky she didn't turn you down the wrong hallway and go, you'll be okay. Keep walking.
Jakob 1:00:29
No wonder she moved to Alabama the next year. What a
Scott Benner 1:00:32
little psychopath she would have been if she did that, by the way. You know what I mean? Yeah, I stuck him in a bathroom and I closed the door. I hope he's okay. He'll be fine. I just don't worry about it. She moved to Alabama. How do you remember that? I
Jakob 1:00:43
have one of those weird memories. Remember everything, the most ridiculous thing
Scott Benner 1:00:47
anyone's ever said on air. You're like, I remember with a girl in third grade moved to That's creepy, Jacob. I just want to say, Well, hey, what do we name in that next baby? Is it a boy or a girl? Do we know?
Jakob 1:01:01
We don't know yet. We she just did the blood test two days ago, so we should have results next week on gender and all of that stuff.
Scott Benner 1:01:09
Wow. May I suggest naming the baby ladder? Ladder? Yeah, because then it would be Jacob's Ladder, and that's a movie too. So that's all I got for you. There's no way you've seen Jacob's Ladder. No, the guy that was married to Susan Sarandon is in it for sure. You know, you're old when you Google something and it's not the first thing that comes up. It
Jakob 1:01:32
was the first thing that came up when I Googled it. It was filmed five years before I was born, 1990
Scott Benner 1:01:37
it says here, yeah, a psychological horror film. Yeah, yeah. Do I remember it right? Just who was in it? Tim Robbins. Tim Robbins was married, is right, married to Susan strand. Was married to Susan strand. Let's look. You don't know who either of those people are, so let me just look No, he was with her for a long time, but they were never married. 8898 they were together for like, 21 years. Isn't that interesting? You don't know who Tim Robbins is, do you? No, I don't have you seen Shawshank Redemption? No, oh, Jacob, I'm so sorry. Jacob, would you watch Shawshank Redemption for me this weekend,
Jakob 1:02:19
if only if you'll watch the Goonies. All
Scott Benner 1:02:22
right, I'll tell you what. Okay, damn it. I don't want to watch the Goonies so bad, but god damn it that. You know that movie sucks, right, doesn't it? No, it's a great movie. All right, I'm gonna, all right, listen to me. I'm not gonna check you on this, and I don't expect you to check me on this, but I promise to watch the Goonies if you watch Shawshank.
Jakob 1:02:43
Okay, well, I just googled it right here, and I'm looking at it, so it'll be on my list. It's gonna
Scott Benner 1:02:48
be one of the best movies you've ever seen. Okay, all right, I promise. All right, man, I'm gonna talk to you later. Hold on one second for me. Okay,
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