#427 Red Dye

January 10, 2021Scott Benner

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Laura's young son was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes.

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Scott Benner 0:14
Hello, friends, and welcome to Episode 427 of the Juicebox Podcast. On today's episode, Laura is with us. She's the mom of a small child, who was recently in the last couple of years diagnosed with Type One Diabetes. And the way they got to the diagnosis was really interesting. Please remember, while you're listening that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan for becoming bold with insulin. Just a quick reminder to check out the T one D exchange at T one day exchange.org forward slash juice box. If you're a US resident, you can add your data to the registry and help everyone living with Type One Diabetes.

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Laura 2:08
Hi, my name is Laura. I'm married and have two kids. I have a 15 year old stepdaughter who slipped with us pretty much all of her life. And then we have a five year old son named Joseph and he is our type one he was diagnosed when he was three, back in October of 2018. We're coming up on our second diversity. And we are we've been at home for the last several months, you know, with all of the things going on. So it's really given us a chance to hone in on settings and kind of just focus on the diabetes without worrying about the school and everything. So we're getting there really, really doing well.

Scott Benner 2:55
So better than getting there. All right, well, let's find out about so there's a couple of threads to your story that I want to pull on. Yeah. And first of all, is we met somewhere where was that? I

Laura 3:05
did. So I actually I live about two hours east of Dallas. And there was a jdrf I believe type one nation summit in the Dallas area. And I had a couple of friends that are in our local type one group that we realized we were all going and so we kind of met up there. And whenever I realized that you were going to be on the speaker list. I didn't care what else was going on. If there's another session that was just as good. I was like, No, there's no way I have to go to that one. But funny story with that is is I actually before COVID had. It's funny how they say elective surgery because it really wasn't. But I had to have a surgery around the same time as the conference and told my husband I said, I don't care if we need to push it back a week. You know, this is elective, they said it's not a major emergency. I said I really want to go to this conference. I said so let me go to the conference, and then I'll have that surgery afterwards. So yeah, I actually planned the surgery to coincide after the conference.

Scott Benner 4:16
You know, I was a late add to that one. And because of that, I got what I would consider like a side room. And, and I said to the person I was like, Look, well, I'll do that. I'm like that rooms not gonna hold all the people though, that are gonna show up and she's like, no, no other buddies already picked up their eyes again. Okay, we'll see. And that room was packed, people were flying out the doors and stand that along the walls and bringing

Unknown Speaker 4:41
out

Scott Benner 4:42
chairs for the aisles. And that was fun.

Laura 4:45
Went to the keynote, and you know, earlier with the lunch and it was funny cuz I was talking to my friend. And I said, wouldn't it been so much better if he had been the keynote and we could have filled this whole ballroom up instead of having to go into that little room.

Scott Benner 4:59
I thought The same thing, nobody listens to me though, so it doesn't matter. And those things are probably never going to happen again. So I think you came to the second to last one of those I'll probably ever do

Unknown Speaker 5:09
solo, I

Scott Benner 5:10
don't know. But I really did have a good time. It was weird for me, because I usually show up at those things and speaking number of times during the day, and because I was just sort of doing a favor at the end, you know, and showing up kind of at the last minute, I just, it wasn't, I didn't know what to do for like hours in the middle of the day, like, what do you do now? Right? Do you just like ice walking around talking to people, and I just didn't, I was I was a bit a little lost, but the group was great. And I got to see, they hand out questionnaires to the people in the room at the end to fill out like what you think of the speaker and that kind of stuff. And I got to see that. And it was really cool. Like, I know how much people enjoyed it. So it was it wasn't just my interpretation of how much they enjoyed it. Because in my own mind, you all loved it. Just say,

Unknown Speaker 6:00
Oh, yeah, it was great.

Scott Benner 6:02
So funny. So as a person who had heard the podcast prior, but then we're sitting in the live, how do I do in an hour of encapsulating the podcast and making it seem like something you'd want to check out? And did it seem reasonable? Or did it sound like,

Laura 6:19
Oh, for sure. It's one of those kind of things, you had both ends of the spectrum. You know, you had the ones that had been listening and wanted to be there, I guess more for confirmation for themselves to kind of keep up what they're doing. Maybe see if there was any new things. And then you have the ones that have never heard you before. And I think it was, it was awesome. You know, once I left and went to the next one, it was a panel session. And it definitely wasn't full by any means. I think we ended up leaving about halfway through it. I was like, Yeah, I've heard all this. But um, it was one of those things, like I said, the ones that have never heard you before. We're just asking such great questions that, you know, you've covered on the podcast, for sure. But it was it was great, because I think they get that sense of I'm not sure how to say but like a familiarity, like, you know, you're there in person, they can ask you this. And, you know, one question better off of another. It was, it's hard to compact all that information in such a short amount of time. But yeah, definitely. I think one of the biggest things I remember people noticing was the slide where you had all of the podcast episodes that you suggested to start with. And I think I think I saw like, half the room cell phones go up and take a picture of it. It was, it was cool, because I know a lot of people probably started listening after they left or, you know, on the way home or whatever

Scott Benner 7:45
I have to tell you when in that specific room, there was an endocrinologist in the first row. Oh, wow, I had met him the night before. It was really delightful, and was telling me how much he enjoyed the podcast and everything. But there was times where you know, I mean, listen, you're there. I'm not a medical person at all right? So I'm relaying my experiences, which are, for the most part, not consistent completely with what people are told in doctors offices, right? And so I'm talking about what we do and in conversations I've had with other people, and like, my eyes would just drift over to him once in a while, like, is he judging me? Or how's this going? But he was smiling again. I was like, all right, he's in we're good. Like, you know, let's, let's keep going. Not that it's not, you know, I mean, you start the thing by saying, Look, I'm not a doctor, this isn't medical advice. You know, right. You're gonna hear about my experience with my daughter. I don't even have diabetes, for God's sakes. You know, like, yeah, I mean, maybe you shouldn't even be here is like how I feel what I'm saying it but to see people rattling along and like you said, getting kind of jacked up and asking questions and and then the notes you get in the weeks afterwards are always very amazing. Like just like I never thought of this and you should see what it's doing for me anyway, it was it was really nice to meet and and to be there. I really hope that one day we're all allowed to gather in rooms again. And

Unknown Speaker 9:03
I really did here.

Scott Benner 9:04
I would do I would definitely do more of it. I enjoyed it. The traveling part is is not good. That that part I don't like very much.

Laura 9:13
Did you have like some experience at the airport? I'm trying to remember if it was that one or another one? That Oh, no,

Scott Benner 9:19
no, yeah, I left there. So what people don't know. None of this is is a glamorous thing like you hump yourself in you know, the day before you're going to talk and so you're pretty exhausted when you're talking to begin with and, you know, you get a car It used to be somebody put you in a taxi, like a gentleman, but now they're like, get yourself a car and find your way here and you're like, Oh, Jesus, all right, okay. I'm not exactly an Uber person. So like, you know, I get to the hotel and there's some problems checking in I get that all worked out and they give you a nice dinner and but you've got a headache from the, you know, from the travel. Like I'm sitting there like, Oh my god, you know, and, and then it was all I felt like I got like, paid back 1000 times by meeting everybody but then I got back to the airport, which is by the way you're done. And then they're like, Alright, well get yourself to the airport, I actually a person who came to see me talk and I got them to drive me. Nice. My wife's like, one day you're gonna get murdered. And I was, like I said, I think I'm better off with people who like the podcast and just a random Uber guy, right? There you go. So we get to the I get to the airport. And I am really gassed. Like, it's, it's a quick turnaround, like, I'm back in an airport 36 hours after it was in one. And I'm sitting there just trying to think, like, I'm gonna go into the restroom and change into something more comfortable to fly in. And I'm sitting and listening to music and trying to find my center a little bit. And this person comes up to me and just kind of waves in my face. And I take out my headphones. They're like, Hi, are you Scott? And I was like, is this weird happens, like, Am I getting a shot? Right in an airport? Like, what did I say on that podcast, you know, and it ended up being a person who was just a fan of the show. And I said, Oh, were you just at my talk? And she goes, No, I was like, wait, what, um, you're not from Dallas. We're happenstance Lee in an airport together. And you recognize me from a podcast about type one diabetes? Wow, I was like, I made it. But no, it was really nice. It really was like, it's not something you know, you don't you don't float a podcast in the world. And think One day, a random person in an airport is gonna know who you are. Right. Very weird. So Dallas, definitely a it was a great experience. And I liked it. I liked the people and, and everything. But like I said, I don't know when we'll ever do something like that again. Anyway, will you share with me what your elective surgery was?

Laura 11:43
So, um, I actually have a family history of colon cancer. And so my grandfather actually passed away from it. Back when I was, I believe a junior in college, so 15 years ago. So anyways, my dad ended up and my aunt ended up having to have colonoscopies, you know, pretty regularly just to you know, alleviate any, you know, problems. But it was never really passed down that I needed to do that, or my sister needed to do that, you know, at that point, and, you know, I'm 36. And so, colon problems really aren't, you know, common at my age, it's not that they don't happen, just not common, but ended up having. So long story short, and I had been having some digestive issues and things but kind of passed it off. And it seems to have gotten better, about a year prior. And coincidentally, it was kind of around the same time that Joseph was diagnosed. So things really didn't, for me, and they weren't in the forefront, because, you know, I was thinking about him and everything. And it really didn't feel like mine wasn't that big of an issue. Of course, as a parent, you, you know, you take better care of your kids than you yourself sometimes. But I'd gotten to the point where I went to see a gastroenterologist after seeing my primary care physician, she said, let's get this checked out. Let's roll out something make sure it's not something minor. And you could just, you know, take some meds and get better or whatever. So see the gastro and he says, Let's do colonoscopy and endoscopy. You've had some, you know, you have asthma. And then I had the some of the gastro problems that were showing up and he said, let's go ahead and just do this and rule out things and hopefully, maybe it's just something simple. So when in for that around Thanksgiving of this past year, they find a polyp that was too large to remove. And while I was in the colonoscopy, endoscopy ended up being fine, I had a hernia, but they were able to remedy that. And so he says, let's go ahead and schedule you for surgery. It's elective. So being in public education, I don't have a lot of time off. And because it was elective, the hospital wouldn't do it around the holidays, which would have been perfect because I would have already been off for it. And so I ended up having that in February after the podcast and not sorry after the conference. Yeah. So anyways, get the results back couple of days stay in the hospital, I had to it was a colon resection they ended up taking out I think four centimeters of my lower colon and it was kind of one of those. I wish that I would have probably taken care of this sooner but thankfully it was good timing doctor said they caught everything, but that it could have eventually turned into colon cancer had it been left 10 you know, 15 years so it's one of those kind of things that like I said, it was just good timing thankfully didn't let it you know, procrastinate any longer and got it done soon enough.

Scott Benner 14:53
But that's a serious story. I think I thought you're gonna say like I was getting like butt implants or something like that. No, no. And then when you said it was something serious, I thought, Why can you imagine that this story ends with her put this off to come to see me talk. And then she has happened. I'm like, Yeah, I

Unknown Speaker 15:09
wouldn't have told you if that was the case.

Scott Benner 15:12
If I gave you cancer, you would have kept that out of this. I appreciate that very much.

Laura 15:16
Well, thankfully, like I said, 10 to 15 years, it had a good lifespan it would have happened in but

Scott Benner 15:23
what's it like now for this? Like, when do you have to how often you have to check in on it.

Laura 15:28
So a good thing about it is, is, once they got it, it was the only one there. So there's not really a lot of follow up other than just every now and then I think he said, Every two years, I'll have to go back for a follow up colonoscopy. And then obviously, as they don't see things, they'll span that out maybe two, five years? Or

Scott Benner 15:48
do you have hair covering your microphone or something weird like that? You just got siblings, you just got much softer.

Laura 15:55
any better?

Scott Benner 15:55
I don't know. You have to say something?

Unknown Speaker 15:57
Can you hear me? No, it's

Scott Benner 15:59
far away. Is the mic near your mouth?

Laura 16:01
It's right near it.

Scott Benner 16:02
Here. How did that happen? All right. Now you were talking and you just got you got farther away on me. That's all. Alright. Okay. So there's follow up to do. But there's, there's no like you don't, I mean, they're not telling you you need to live like this is going to be a problem, you have to change. Not at all eating or

Laura 16:21
So prior to whenever I'd gone to see the gastroenterologist and I had kind of changed up my diet a little bit and take away some of the things that were less acidic, and make sure that I wasn't drinking, you know, like gallons of orange juice, and things like trying to think like broccoli, cauliflower, things that were gas producing. He said, you know, take those out and nuts, things like that. But he said, You know, you're a normal 36 year old and don't feel like this has to hinder you at all. So, whenever Joseph was born, I had a C section. So I was already familiar to an abdominal surgery to begin with. So at this point, I have a horizontal section from the C section and now I have a vertical incision from the colon resection. So I've got a little t that makes you also

Scott Benner 17:18
met may one day have a podcast episode called Laura farted too much. So Oh, my God, my

Unknown Speaker 17:24
husband would love that.

Scott Benner 17:28
Well, we'll see. Maybe you'll say something else that'll get you off of that one. But strong contender right now. So anyway, so you had like you said, you have a stepchild, who's the you're older, and then you're younger? Is the type one diagnosed at three. In your note to me, you're talking about pretty significant. I felt behavioral issues, especially for a three year old. Can you tell me what was going on? And did it just sort of start out of nowhere. I mean, was he like a pain in the butt when he was nine months old or like what happens?

Laura 18:02
So when he was born, like I said, being an education, I had to go back to work with, you know, limited time off. He was born at the beginning of January. And I went back last week of February. And it was about six weeks after he had been born. And we were lucky enough to have an amazing friend who was a stay at home mom, and she kept him for this app from the time he was six weeks old till he was about 18 months. And so we were able to thankfully kind of avoid all of you know, the daycare snot and all that fun stuff that first, you know, year and a half that he was able to be with her. And he started school when he was 18 months. And it was kind of one of those he was impulsive. Very much. He was aggravated A lot of times when things didn't go away his way more so than I would think a regular 18 month old would be he would push or hit or whatever. And we didn't really have that at home. And so it was kind of one of those like, Where's this coming from? And he's obviously never liked the word No, he he stubborn. He likes to get his way. And there's you know, a tape there's a 10 year age gap between him and his sister. And so, you know, it's not like they hang out and you know, they'll play with each other to a point but you know, a 15 year old and a five year old you're you're not gonna see them together. 24 seven,

Scott Benner 19:32
pretty limited intersection of ideas and thoughts.

Unknown Speaker 19:36
For for sure.

Scott Benner 19:37
Oh, by the way is your 15 year old is really has that much in common with your five year old than your 15 year old has a problem like Yeah.

Laura 19:46
But yeah, so he he would get in trouble at school and it would just kind of be hit or miss. A lot of times but I would kind of dread getting the note home. What had happened to him The day like, oh, God did he hit, he didn't buy, I will say that, thankfully, he did get bit, but he didn't bite himself. But he would push or he would shove or whatever. And we tried lots of different behavioral interventions where we would, you know, let him be off on his own, give him time to then certain things or whatever. So, um, he's at that school for a full year, almost two years, almost two years. And he had gotten it gotten to the point where the school is like, let's take a break. They weren't necessary.

Unknown Speaker 20:42
It's not, you get out

Laura 20:44
that weren't necessarily saying you're out, you're gone, as but they said, let's take a break, you know, come back in the fall, he was going to go during the summer, a couple of days for like a mother's day out kind of thing, just to keep them in for a little bit of, you know, kid interaction. So anyways, he's out, but I'm still working at that point. And I have to figure out whether or not I can get him into another school. And thankfully, it was only a couple of weeks, I'd visited a couple of other schools. But the problem is, is you go into it with this stigma that your kid's been a behavior problem. But you know, it's one of those kind of things that every school is different, they deal with things in different ways. But the new school he went to was great, brought him in, welcomed him. He had the only thing I didn't like about that was there's teachers changed a little bit more frequently, there's a little bit more turnover at that school. Yeah, they have

Scott Benner 21:39
more stress

Laura 21:41
a little bit. But they had a built in cafeteria, they provided food if we needed it, he ended up not liking the foods that they did. But once we had left the previous school, one of his teachers had suggested going to look into occupational therapy, to see if there might be some sensory issues. So we ended up going to our occupational therapist here in town. He did get diagnosed with sensory processing disorder, we went through several months worth of therapy, things started to get better. And then bam, he's diagnosed. And we're like, maybe this isn't sensory, maybe this is something that's related with the diabetes. Yeah. But my both my stepdaughter and my husband, and a couple of members of his family have ADHD. And so there's definitely some signs pointing to things that are, you know, related to ADHD that there's a good chance he has it or add, not sure, too young to diagnose at this point. And we definitely don't want to medicate him at five years old, you know, yeah. So. But yeah, so he's diagnosed, he was at the school. The new school that we moved to, for a total of say, he wouldn't may is diagnosed in October, and he went a little bit during the summer. So what, five, six months? So it was one of those things when he got diagnosed, when we were in the hospital, I was, you know, scared, talking with my husband, like, what if they don't take him back because of this, you know, that's obviously it's a it's a daycare. It's not a school. It's not public, there's no nurse, but when I called them and he got diagnosed over a weekend, so of course, we had a couple of days to freddo for it. But when Monday came around, I was able to call them from the hospital. They said, Oh, no, that's great. We actually have another type one here. She's a little bit older, and comes to the after school program. So we're familiar with the finger sticks and and insulin if we needed to give it so it was kind of one of those. Oh, okay, breathe a little bit kind of thing.

Scott Benner 23:59
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I have a couple of questions. I don't want to get far ahead without asking my questions. So first of all, I feel for you because I once had a dog kicked out of a kennel and that was horrifying. I was walking out like I'm so sorry. You know, and and I can't even imagine like what that must feel like for someone to say, Hey, you know, you need to get your head out of here because

Laura 27:17
well, that to their point, I will say they did offer in the fall. They said hey, you want to come back? Let's try this again. So at least they did offer I mean, it was Yeah,

Scott Benner 27:27
that's all cool. I just mean in that initial moment when you're when you're standing there like Hi, it's me, Laura. I'm here to pick up my kid. They're like, yeah, don't bring that kid back here. You're like, Whoa, okay. And like you said, You were like, you'd wait for it. Right? Like, and that's gotta be stressful too. It was Yeah, no kidding. And so Okay, so here we are. You've tried these things for, you know, different issues. You're wondering if it's ADHD, maybe it's sensory, maybe it's not, you get the diagnosis for the Type One Diabetes. I guess let's delve into that. And then we'll bring it back around again. So how do you how does the type one present?

Laura 28:06
At that point, he's three, he hadn't potty trained yet. And we hit started really, really working on that whenever he was home over the weekends and working at school because the school had a bathroom in the classroom. And so they would take them and you know, just peers around him would show and so we really, really were working on potty training. So it seemed like he was getting it. But he would be drinking excessively like down a drink and then want another one five seconds later, but then go to the potty. Right, you know, as soon as he finished the one. So my husband like, Oh, he's getting it. He's getting a Skittle for it. And he wants to go potty. Well, we get calls from the school. So this all starts kind of on a Sunday night, he wet the bed on Sunday night. And he ended up having to go to school the next day. And I'd put him in a pole up. But he was reading through the pull ups. And I want to say that week, because we ended up going to the hospital on a Friday on that Friday. So it was really only a week of symptoms. We ended up brought up maybe four or five sets of clothes over a two day period of time that he was at school because he went through them so badly and needed to be changed even with the extra set of clothes that you know you already have there. So it was one of those things that my husband was venting to a couple of people at work and saying, you know, this potty training is going good, but oh my gosh, he's wetting himself so much. And he had said something to one of his co workers. And she said, that sounds like type one diabetes, you need to get that checked out. So it's ironic and it's kind of a scary story that she said, I'm not sure who was related to her or she knew but they had somebody they knew that had a kid that got diagnosed, but the kid was a little younger. And it gotten so thirsty that the kid was drinking out of the dog's water bowl. Wow. And so she had told that to my husband, and he's like, you know what, let's just go get this checked out. So that all started on Sunday, I was able to get him an appointment on that Friday with our pediatrician, but she is half day only clinic on Fridays. And so when we went in, and I unfortunately wasn't able to contain him to be able to get a blood draw or finger stick, he was fighting us combative, and he's got skills. He does. Bad ninja skills. When it comes to us. He's

Scott Benner 30:37
got good footwork, he knows that a stick and movie catch you with the right cross out of nowhere.

Laura 30:44
It also didn't help the fact that I was pretty squeamish about blood. It's funny now with all of the finger sticks. And we were doing injections for a while there and pod changes and everything. I've gotten a lot better. But when she went to go do the blood, I was like, Oh, I can't do this. And so she said, All right, let's figure out something else. Whenever your husband gets off work, we can figure something else out. So I called him after lunch, he got off a little early. And we went to an urgent clinic in town and he was able to kind of help out and they tested his sugar. And it was one of those surreal moments because they were like, I think this meter is broken, because it's saying it's over 700. So it was pretty high. And so they tested him to two times to be sure. And both times it was over 700 so much that their meter didn't say a number. It just said over 700. So, yeah, we're at that urgent clinic, and they call the pediatrician and say, you know, what do you want to do this, she says, get him to Dallas to the Children's Hospital. So they bring over a crew from Dallas Children's Hospital, and he gets ambulance to the airport, which he thought was really cool. He had never flown before. And we get in one of the Children's Hospital jets. And we go into Dallas and ambulance back from the airport to children's and my husband drives because it's not a big enough plane for all of us to go. And so my stepdaughter was away visiting her other grandparents at that point in the Dallas area. So once we got there, she was able to come up and see us as well. But we actually the funny thing is, is in the amount of time it took us like I said, we live about two hours east of Dallas, my husband was able to drive, go home, get all of the stuff we needed, and meet us there in about the same time. So it took us about two hours. It's not that long of a flight. But it took us about that long to get there. Funny, we could have just driven whatever, pull

Scott Benner 32:52
them in a wagon, maybe even made it in a reasonable amount of time. It sounds like I was wondering, when you said that I thought well, maybe they were really far from where they needed to go or how there was this situation. They were just like, Hey, we haven't used this plane all day.

Laura 33:07
Let's just get it out. But thankfully, my husband's insurance. He works for higher education, Junior College. And so you have state insurance, and it covers all of the ambulance and all of the plane rides. So

Unknown Speaker 33:18
my next question.

Laura 33:22
Yeah, I saw what white guy build. I was like, wow, $40,000 plane flight.

Unknown Speaker 33:27
That's awesome. Wow, no kidding. Geez. Yeah. Oh, my gosh,

Scott Benner 33:32
thank goodness. Like, can you imagine if your insurance was like, Wait, what? No, you couldn't drove there the same time? You'd have been like, Oh, yeah, I know, honestly. We're gonna put you on a payment plan. Like No thanks.

Laura 33:45
I don't pay this out until he's 18 or older,

Scott Benner 33:48
essentially $15 a year, just until this is all taken care of. Okay, so Wow, you get to the hospital. And I mean, his blood sugars, especially for a little person. I wonder how much different that is? Probably not. But it made me wonder like is a higher blood sugar like that in a smaller body more dire than in a larger one? Or I wonder what those are that? Yeah.

Laura 34:11
So the great thing about this urgent clinic is is they cater to pretty much every need that you could ever want. They have people to come around and say Do you want a massage? You want a bottle of water? They've got all this you know, food available?

Scott Benner 34:23
They did come in on a jet. You seem important.

Laura 34:26
Well, no, this isn't the urgent clinic. And so of course, while he's there prior to us going in, of course, he's like, I want a candy bar. I want a soda. And so I'm sure that probably didn't help the situation. So it might have been a little lower. Prior to him eating all that food. Gotcha. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 34:43
They drove his blood sugar up with the Good Eats.

Laura 34:46
Exactly. So they ended up I'm trying to think so the team that came from Dallas had, you know, this chart that they had based on his weight and the insulin that he needed and so they were able to give that to him prior To him go and hooked him up to an IV. IV was going while he was on the plane ride. It was it was interesting. But yeah, we get to Dallas come through the emergency entrance get into our room. They start him on diluted because of his size. At that point, I look back now. And I tell my husband all the time, like I wish I would have known I see the pictures and I'm like, Wow, he did lose weight. I don't even know how that's something you don't notice. You know, the circles under his eyes, things like that. I look back, you know, just kind of sad about it. But he ended up like I said he was on diluted. Once he was in the hospital for the first day, I want to say then they realized that he was going to need a little bit more. So they put him on the regular shrink. We started on novolog. And we were doing syringes because he was on quarter units at that point. And then once he got on the regular wearable to do the half units, and then they switched us over to pin on the human log. And we still did the syringe for the Lantus that he was doing. He did a morning dose of lantis. But it was hospital protocol whenever we were in that if they changed his dosage or the type that you had to stay for an extended period of time to get everything regulated. It's not the right word. But I think that's kind of what they're how they

Scott Benner 36:29
thought of it. So every time they made a change to this, they thought now you have to stay longer.

Laura 36:35
Not Not every change but change from the diluted to the full strength except that's reasonably Nova log to the human log on that.

Scott Benner 36:44
I don't understand what okay. So how long did you end up staying?

Laura 36:49
About four days? I think we were there. Three and a half. We went home on Tuesday. So we got there Friday, about midnight Saturday morning, and then left about lunchtime on Monday.

Scott Benner 37:02
You know, as I'm saying that Arden was in the hospital for like four or five days, too. Yeah. So and she was little she was too. And you know, her blood sugar was pretty pretty darn high when she got there. So I don't know how much of that is, is just good common sense, or how much of it is being careful because of how little they are and they can't talk and there's other things. By the way, before I forget this if the person whose kid drank out of the dog bowl, listen to this podcast, shoot me an email cuz Yeah, for sure. Totally get on the podcast, just in case you're wondering. I just really didn't want to forget this. Because that seems really, that really makes the point doesn't it? You know? Yep. Wow. So you guys get home. I'm interested in because you described your husband and your stepdaughter have ADHD a little bit. You don't like blood? So you guys were just I agree well trio to get involved in type one diabetes, right?

Laura 38:01
Oh, my husband was actually great about it. And my stepdaughter is fine about it. And he actually was a he worked in college as it's not a phlebotomist, but he worked at a plasma center. So he has no problem with blood at all. He could do it in asleep and probably find a vein. Even now, you know, 1520 years later, you're probably still do it and asleep. But yeah, he had no problems. And he was the one to initially do all of the doses because I just I wasn't there yet. But it didn't take long. I was stepping in and and saying, you know, this is my kid. I've got to do it for him. And you know, there's really no other option.

Scott Benner 38:43
Yeah, it turns out you didn't have as much of a phobia as you just didn't really like it. Yeah, you're able to like write that ship pretty well. Well, I would expect, obviously, no less. It's that stupid thing that you know, you hear people say all the time. Like I could never do that, like I sure you could. Yeah, yeah, absolutely good. Don't forget the hiker cut off his own arm. I'd like to make a list of people who think they can cut their arm off with a pen knife. That's a pretty short list, then all of a sudden you find your arm trapped in between two boulders and you say to yourself, ah, I guess I can't do this. I can't, because I don't want to die here. Well, that's that's pretty cool. You know, everybody kind of came together and got it together right away. What was the technology? Like? Did you guys transfer away from MDI pretty quickly? or What was your path like for that?

Laura 39:31
Um, I guess that's a relative term so quick for some people because, you know, some hospitals and NGOs require that you be diagnosed for at least six months or something. And we actually so he was diagnosed on October the 19th. And I actually just scrolled through some memories and saw that his first Dexcom he got a G six, and his first one that we answered it was on November 6, so relatively short for that to be doable. Finger sticks. Yeah. So that was that was great. And it's like I've heard you say before and many other people, we could have done MDI forever if it meant that we got to keep the G six. But once we actually got on the Omni pod, it's it's been great. But we started that his birthdays first week of January and we actually went to a waterpark for his birthday because who gets to go swimming in January. So he went to one indoor waterpark for his birthday. And he did the demo pod while we were there and just kind of kept it on see how it worked while we were in the water test. It was Yeah, good test. It worked out well. And my husband and I went in and did the sailing test with the endo. And at this point, we are still saying Dallas endo team. At that point, we're four months in, and we do the sailing test. He and I go up, he wears it for a couple of days. I wear for a couple of days and do all the settings and pretend you know to put stuff in. And then he starts it later that week. So October to January, we did an MDI and then he started Omnipod. In January,

Scott Benner 41:11
I called up pretty quickly and yeah, so his I'm assuming his blood sugars become more regulated, obviously. And what were his a once he's like through the first like, number of tests, how did it Yeah, so

Laura 41:25
when he was first diagnosed, he's at 10.5. And then we actually had our first endo checkup A month later, so not that much longer. So it really didn't decrease that much because we're still doing an MDI, we had only had the Dexcom for like a week maybe. So really not good data there. But it went down to a 10.3 the next month, but you know, progress, it's going down to a 9.4. Right? I'm trying to think right before he got the Omni pod, maybe like January, middle of January. Yeah. And then in between that appointment in his next appointment, I found the podcast and he was on the Omni pod. And we went from a 9.4 to a 7.8. So

Unknown Speaker 42:11
huge Johnson nicely,

Laura 42:13
huge, huge jump. And the great thing about it was is he wasn't having a lot of lows. At that point, we were able to catch him we were able to bump a nudge based on you know, things. The great thing about a toddler, as you know is their variance in food is pretty limited. So thankfully, he was eating a lot of the same foods. So I was able to get a good amount of data based off of that more good practice. I

Scott Benner 42:37
tell people all the time, like when, when you're really struggling, it kind of seems boring, but pick a weekend and make the same meal like two or three times in a row like you know, at the same breakfast, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, the same lunch, the same dinner. And it's a little boring, but at least you can do something, watch it happen make an adjustment, see what happens again, on a short time period. It's a way to make it fun with kids, I guess if you if you try. But it's so much easier than you know, doing macaroni and cheese today and the next day trying pizza and the third day doing a salad and like all your data is meaningless then yeah, like it's to make the next good decision.

Laura 43:16
So that's actually what I mean. I've done it pretty much ever since the beginning. But I do that now breakfast is our struggle, like most people's is. And so of course, he wants to have things that are really kid friendly, you know, muffins, cereal course. And you know, and so I'll just pick a week and say, Alright, this is what we're doing. We're gonna eat it every day for this week and try and get it better each time that we do it.

Scott Benner 43:41
That's Babel and it works right.

Unknown Speaker 43:43
And it works. Yeah.

Scott Benner 43:45
You just need you just need the repetition. Really? Yeah. So did little Mike Tyson's skills deplete as his blood sugar's came down, like

Unknown Speaker 43:56
what was fainted. So

Laura 43:57
in addition to getting the blood sugars more regulated, we were able to cut out a lot of artificial dyes, which has been tremendously helpful. Now, don't get me wrong, if he's got a school party and I go up and they want to have you know, Froot Loops or, you know, cookies or whatever, and they're totally all artificial. I'm not gonna deny him that by any means. But on the regular we do pretty natural stuff. Still hating eat things like a natural yogurt or a natural applesauce, things like that. But cutting out the dyes and getting the blood sugars regulated have definitely been helpful. Now, don't get me wrong. He's still a little Spitfire and sometimes rivals me and some of the things he says some, like, Where did you hear that? But a lot of times, it's like, oh, wait, there's a 15 year old sister. I know where he heard that.

Scott Benner 44:54
You know, he's gotta be pissed. I'm assuming you're raising him as a Cowboys fan and that would make any child unhappy.

Laura 45:00
So unfortunately, my husband would have to disagree with you on that. It's it's funny you're either are or you aren't. He's a Steelers fan. So we we root for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Scott Benner 45:12
No kidding all the way from Dallas? Well, then I don't know what the kids problem is. I know right hold together. I'm interested about the dyes. We try hard here. I try hard here to push what I just consider to be basic foods on my family. Like I want you to look at your meal and be able to say, oh, there's chicken and butter and salt. Like, like, I didn't know what's in it, you know, I may, you know, make your own bread. There's, you know, it's flour and butter and water and yeast and sugar and not much more else. You know, what's in it? It's got a little bit of sugar in it. Honestly. I'm a fan of that. And but I never considered dies before. Well, yeah. What is that about?

Laura 46:00
So that was so like, if you open a box of Froot Loops up and you look at the side, you've got red 40, you've got yellow one, all these dyes. Red 40 was the big one that I noticed. It was kind of interesting, I would do these little experiments. There was kool aid that we did one day at school, I let him have a Kool Aid zero. And then the next day, we had another one. And so it was two days straight of having this Kool Aid zero with red 40 in it and his behavior was just crazy. I I just knew that it was related to that. Because the next couple of days he didn't have it. He was fine. I didn't get any notes. Hmm.

Scott Benner 46:47
Well, I just saw I just googled read 40 side effects, is the three most widely used culprits yellow five, yellow six and red 40 contain compounds including benzene and four. Wow, what is that word? amino bifen all the research has linked. This was cancer research is also associated food dyes with problems in children including allergies, hyperactivity, learning impairment, irritability and aggressiveness. How about that?

Laura 47:15
Wow. All right, was one of those just writing's on the wall. So that was that it just stuck in us that we've got to do better for him. Because obviously, as a five year old, he's gonna pick whatever any other kids picking out. But with the ADHD and the sensory stuff, it just hypes it up even more.

Scott Benner 47:39
Yeah, yeah, it's just compounds it right, just one issue on top of another. And, wow, okay, well, I'm glad you told me about that. That's not something I ever considered before. I don't know that I eat a lot of red food. That doesn't get itself red. But I know a lot of people do. And

Laura 47:55
you'd be surprised and things. Yeah. Thankfully, you know, with, you know, being type one, he likes to drink, drinks, water with additives, and all of your ones. They're just, you know, powders you pour in those habit. So we couldn't do like crystal like, we can do anything. But they do make some dye free ones, which has been great. He likes those and some natural ones that have come out that are flavored with like, one of my favorite drinks that he drinks is a juice box. So it looks like anything else, like another kid would drink. But it's flavored with monkfruit. But I know a lot of people have allergies to things like that, but thankfully he doesn't. But it has it has one carb and and it tastes just like a regular juicebox. So that's been a great fun.

Scott Benner 48:38
I'm gonna check my wife's food cuz she can get aggressive sometimes.

Laura 48:41
Sometimes we have to check ourselves. So we actually started eating a little bit more healthy after he was diagnosed. Not so much so for the dyes, but for a lower carb because we had heard at that point, you know, this two years ago, but we had heard that, you know, lower carb is a little easier on type one. And you know, the health benefits for us were definitely an added bonus. But we started eating kind of a mixture between keto and weightwatchers. And we just kind of kept with it. He still really not eating a lot of the things that we eat, and I know, going into it I was one of those parents, my kids gonna eat everything that we eat, and I'm not going to make a separate meal for him. Well, when he's three years old, and you cook something, he's like, I'm not eating that. You've already given him insulin, like okay, well, he's gonna get something

Scott Benner 49:31
Plus he really he blacking your eye a little bit. So you're really he's probably the sweetest little kid.

Laura 49:39
He is it's so funny this morning because he's with my parents today cuz

Unknown Speaker 49:46
No, just kidding guys.

Laura 49:49
It's me and him for the summer and he of course likes to be underfoot near 24 seven because he's a mama's boy. But he whenever I left him, he was like, I love you. You blew me a kiss. It's like, Ah, you can't leave that.

Scott Benner 50:04
That's wonderful. Isn't it? Sounds like you've got it moving in the right direction for sir. Sure. It is interesting to to see how I mean, how aggressive to not, you know, in a short amount of time is really interesting. And you do wonder how many people wouldn't think too. I mean, obviously, you could look at the diabetes, but I don't know that all of that aggression in the beginning, you know, unless he was honeymooning going into diabetes for a long time. It doesn't seem doesn't seem reasonable, just to point it to that.

Laura 50:35
But I definitely think the dyes and the ADHD were a big big part of it. And it

Scott Benner 50:39
just the diabetes on top of it definitely didn't help the situation. Right, right. Yeah, you're just adding a different again, compounding a different problem on top of it for sure. I have to tell you like you don't listen, I don't know people. Some people probably think about it fine. But when Coronavirus started, I took like one good look in the mirror. And I thought to myself, Scott, you are the kind of person who will gain weight during something like this. Right? And so I was like, let's not do that, you know, and all I did was go to an intermittent fasting schedule. And just I just eat for eight hours a day and for 16 hours a day. I don't eat so I basically eat from like 11 to, you know, seven, or sometimes it's noon to eight but that's pretty much it right there. And I'm I'm 13 pounds lighter than I was when Coronavirus started. Nice and in. But thank you and in between those times that that 1107 I do not limit what I'm eating. Like yesterday, I had like a pulled pork sandwich and ice cream for lunch. And I don't gain weight. And I was like, Huh, and I had some heartburn that has completely disappeared. And don't get me wrong. Like I'm not like, I'm not eating a Twinkie on the half hour or anything like that, you know, like I'm not I have actually in full in full. Clear To be clear, I guess. I also and I've mentioned it once before I cut out refined oils.

Unknown Speaker 52:09
Oh, okay.

Scott Benner 52:11
I've never cut anything out of my my life before like that. But so anything that is any oil that is refined or pressed with heat, I won't use anymore. So like, even like no canola, no vegetable oil, like that kind of stuff. I'm just using what am I using olive oil like, you know, the lightest kind, and you know, and only cold pressed? Yeah, I'm not putting obviously that much effort into it. I don't even know what I'm doing when I'm talking about it. But I've just cut out like certain oils. And and. And that's it. So you know, when you cut that out, you're cutting out potato chips, I guess, stuff like that. But you know, I would say that's pretty much it. Like I'm not eating anything out of a bag, I'm not having certain oils, and I'm only eating for eight hours a day and 13 past, like three or four months now. So

Laura 53:03
my husband also does intermittent fasting a lot. And it same thing, like you were saying just so many benefits to it. And I remember a couple episodes ago, you were still wearing the Pro, and you were doing the fasting and you noticed how much things were better whenever you were in that fasting state. Well, foods weren't involved, especially if

Scott Benner 53:24
you're a person who at some point is going to become tied to, you know, there's long stretches of every 24 hour period where you're just you don't appear to be using very much of your own insulin, right, you know, and my blood sugar was it super stable for those 16 hours. And it still like once in a while something would happen. Like I had a bad dream, my blood sugar jumped way up. That was interesting, you know, to see. And there were some foods that obviously were harsher than others. But when I when I called on my insulin after not eating for 16 hours, it did the job, you know, 120 back down again, you know, you'd really have to eat to get the 130 or 135. Like I pressed it one time really hard. Arden made a cake. And it was just like, I mean, there's no way to know how many cups of sugar were in this confection you know, but it was a lot of sugar. And I was like, I just need two of them. I'm like, let me see what happens here. In the name of science. Well, it really was because no kidding. The second one I was pushing down. I was like, I don't really want this, you know? And like 135, something like that. That's it. All right. So, you know, but I don't know what would happen if I was having smaller snacks throughout the day. And I guess I'm gonna get to wear one more sensor at some point and I'll I maybe will take a day and break my fasting to see what happens if it just drives you up all day long. But I think that's going to be the case, I think you're gonna you're gonna end up laying in that 110 space for hours and hours at a time instead of being in that 85 space. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not into obviously, if you listen to this podcast, I'm not into telling people how to eat. And I really think that at its core, this podcast is about how to use insulin. And then from there, it's how to use it however you want to eat. Like, I just want people to understand how it works so that if they choose low carb, or they choose, you know, red dye number 40, they still know how to use their insulin. That's exactly important to me, you know. So it's cool that you guys found all this out. It's really I'm trying so hard to get somebody on to talk about intermittent fasting. But yeah, I've found anybody yet like, I really want like somebody who's a I don't know, a specialist that somebody could really talk about it because I don't know what I'm talking about. I only have it. I only have anecdotal, you know, information about what's happening to me.

Laura 55:44
I think Same here. Yeah.

Scott Benner 55:45
Yeah. So that's cool. All right. Listen, we're creeping up on an hour here. Did we want to feel like Did we miss it? Oh, I guess I do want to understand a little bit about you experienced that really big drop in a one. See, yeah, what were the changes that you made that led to that decrease?

Laura 56:04
Well, at that point, it was just instilling the things that we were listening to on the podcast, bumped down our high alerts, and we're able to kind of catch things be a little bit more proactive instead of reactive, but so I didn't get to say so he's actually been at three schools prior, and he's not even in kindergarten yet. But during the summer of last summer, 2019, I took him out, because I was at home. And I wanted to really focus on getting the blood sugar's under control. And we, I took a chance, because if I didn't keep him in, there's a chance that he would lose a spot and they don't usually fill up. But if they happen to for that fall session, so he lost his spot, and he ended up having to go to another school. But it was another kind of blessing in disguise. The second school, the way they manage was the office personnel were the ones that did the finger sticks, they did the insulin giving all that and the teachers were left out of it. And I would talk to them via their phones. And a lot of times it was I had to wait longer than I needed to or wanted to for something to happen. And so whenever he moved to the third school, the one most recently which they did theirs with the teacher, because they had a much smaller classroom, I think he only had like eight kids in his class. And so she was able to do things all herself trained her had the CD from our endo taught to her. And she was amazing. I look back now and wish that I could have had her as his teacher for all four years. It was cool. Yeah. And but yeah, so she dealt with it all. But we were able to hone things in over the summer. And so his lowest day when see prior to this 2019 20 school year was about 6.2. So it was it was pretty good. We were rocking and rolling. But then Coronavirus happens. And I had my surgery. And I honestly actually haven't been back to work because of all of this stuff since February. And it's now first of July. But when we got off during that time period, I had attempted looping back in August of 2019. And I don't know if you remember this or not because Arden would have been older and the smaller doses wouldn't really have mattered to her. But the algorithms, smaller doses hadn't been figured out with like it was missing ticks here and there.

Unknown Speaker 58:48
I remember and Yeah, I do.

Laura 58:49
Yeah. So it was one of those things where if I couldn't get this setting, and loot figured out before school, I wasn't going to feel safe sending him so we ended up we did it for about a month and things just weren't going like they needed to. So I said let's pick this up later whenever they get this figured out. And so the friend that I had talked about that went to the conference, we met up, they it started looping with her two type one kids, and I had actually mentioned it to her. And they were able to get theirs figured out pretty easily because her kids being a little bit older. And so February rolls along, I'm at home, he's been home and I'm like, you know what, this is the time I've got to step in and we've got to do this looping thing, because I need to be able to feel safe with him going to kindergarten, not that I wouldn't feel safe with him going. I just don't want to feel reliant on a school nurse or an aide to have to walk in somewhere. I want it to be where it's a little less thought of and a little bit more freedom for him. So we started looping in late February, and we Listen to all the episodes with looping that you done. And the one with Kenny Fox actually was the best one, I was actually able to talk to him. And it's crazy. I don't know if you know there's or not. But you actually answered one of my questions on an ascot and Jenny about hormones about growth hormones.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:19
I didn't realize that.

Laura 1:00:20
Yeah, so our biggest struggle was going to sleep and he would shoot up, like skyrocket up moments after his head hit the pillow. And it was all growth hormone. So setting his ISF significantly lower like it's double the ISF of his daytime, it made things so much smoother. I can't tell you how many nights of sleep I've actually gotten. It's, it's

Scott Benner 1:00:49
I, I hear that from a lot of people who sleep better with an algorithm helping them overnight is really, yeah, not it's not even to be surprised by this point. It's just, it happens. And it's fantastic. You know,

Laura 1:01:01
I just wished that it hadn't taken everything to happen for us to jump on board as wholeheartedly as we did when we did. I wish we could have done this sooner. But you know, it's one of those, like I said, his teacher was great and did amazing with him during the school year. And I think the transition over to kindergarten, you know, being in public schools. When I was in the classroom, I actually, we split off into two teams of the common areas that taught I taught a history class. So anyways, we had two teams, we had a special ed team. And then we had a 504 ESL team. And so I was always the 504 ESL team. And I actually had a couple of type ones that came through my classroom over the period, I was teaching, and I look back now and I think, you know, what was his blood sugar doing at this moment? Or did this affect It's so crazy, you think back and look, you know, and they're all you know, thriving adults at this point, and they're, you know, often out of school, but it's kind of a cool look back to see how things were without knowing because I had no involvement at that time,

Scott Benner 1:02:13
I can't tell you how much I think or how important I think it is to have some time to just reflect on what's going on. For sure. And it just, you know, I talked about it, I think a lot. But when things are going by so quickly, and life's happening so fast, you're just trying to stay like just trying to stay on the map, you know what I mean? Like, I just don't want to get too lost here, like, let me get the things done, I need to get done. And to make my money, I got to clean something, I got to feed people I have to shop like you know, you have to do all these things. When that slows down a little bit, you can step back, you can really start seeing things like food dye, and you know, where your how to make your boluses work better. And I guess the real trick is, is how to find that time, you know, when we're all not locked inside, right in voluntarily. And because that most of your life is not going to be like that with I should knock on wood, we are going to get out of here eventually, right? But, but you know, like, just it shines a light on the importance of reflection. And to be able to watch something, you know, kind of thoughtfully and say, Oh, I see what's happening here, you know, and then to watch it happen over and over again until it builds in your mind. Because sometimes you see things happen right in front of your face. And you don't notice them

Unknown Speaker 1:03:31
can't see the forest for the trees

Scott Benner 1:03:32
definitely can't, you know, happens, it happens a lot. So I tried to talk about people understanding, you know, macro and micro, like, think about things from further away, sometimes don't be so close up, you missed a lot, you know, there's a it's a silly thing. But you know, they say, right, you know, you hold your hand too close to your face, and you can't see anything else put your hand and so you back away, and all of a sudden everything else is there. And that's just the It's lucky for some people, obviously, some people don't have the same kind of, you know, options in their life. But this gave it to a great many more people. Obviously, there's still people working that, you know, didn't get to, you know, they they were found to be essential. And yeah, I didn't get to do this. But for so many people, I think they're having experiences like yours and like mine really like I don't know if I would have you know, I don't know if I would have tried the intermittent fasting I have a friend of mine told me about it a year ago. And I was like, yeah, and then, you know, I didn't know it. And then I then I got pinched and I thought oh, I have to do something. And that was the thing that was on top of my sort of mental list of if I'm going to worry about my health through food again, I think this is the thing I'm going to look at next is, I guess how I thought of it. So very cool. I mean, you guys have been on a little bit of a roller coaster for a couple of years, but it seems like you're you're in a good spot now. Do you agree? It's

Laura 1:04:53
one of those kind of things. When you look back, like you said perspective, I look at our agencies and times and range and you know, it's It's been coming down ever since diagnosis. And we're in a spot now where it's more stable. I think that's the biggest key. It's the stability. So that's the peace of mind.

Scott Benner 1:05:12
Yeah, yeah. No bouncing around and keeping the time and range. Right. And you know, all that other stuff. It's interesting to me, though, that what seemed like you said, I wish this would have happened more quickly for us. But really, what was it? It's a couple of years, right. Sure. Yeah. And, and I know, it's tough because sometimes you'll hear people on this podcast who find the podcast like in the hospital on day one, and they'll sound like, wow, they never really went through any of this stuff. But just remember, if it makes you feel better than two years into Arden's diagnosis, I was still pretty frequent, quiet crier in the shower, still, you know, and her and her ANC was still like in the eights and, you know, and I didn't know what I was doing. And that wasn't even unthinkable, then that was fairly common for people. Yeah, you know, so I like it. I like that where these timelines are getting shorter and shorter, and it somehow makes me happy that two years felt long to you. Not that not that it felt long. But that it, you know, is not really a very long time. Historically, I,

Laura 1:06:12
when I look back at it, whenever he's an adult and managing himself, I'm going to be like, Wow, those two years went by, like,

Scott Benner 1:06:19
in an instant? Oh, yeah. When he's fighting MMA, there you go, probably choking people out for money in the middle of the middle of the ring. Probably probably grow up to be an artist. You know,

Laura 1:06:32
at this point, he likes to do things with his hands. He's really into Legos. And, of course, what boy isn't right. And he plays outside. And actually, the thing that I'm still working on the most is activity with loop and trying to figure out the best overrides, or if I want to set it at a higher number, he started t ball this year. And we actually have a game tonight. And so going into it just kind of put in that plan into place of how can I get him set up to be in a place where it's good to start with so that the game doesn't affect? You know, so. So working on those, I think that's going to be something I'll be working on for a little bit, especially with new schedules with kindergarten and who knows what ends up looking like if if they're going to end up in the class all together? If they're gonna have to stay during lunch? Who knows? Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:07:22
I'm just you just made me think that the Minnesota Twins just drafted a kid in the first round. Who has type one diabetes. Awesome. I can't say his name is Garrett. I can't think of his last name right now.

Laura 1:07:36
Yeah. We always try to tell Joseph, cuz a lot of times he'll be listening. You know, while we're in the car, I have the podcast on and he'll say, Oh, they have diabetes, like me. Or we've seen a couple of people in the store. We've seen an omni pod on a couple people. I have a co worker that has type one. And it's, it's like a unicorn you see are like out in public, like, wow, somebody like me.

Scott Benner 1:08:04
So I'm gonna, I'm going to correct myself here. But I think it was the Brewers. Now, hold on. Now I'm gonna find out because I'm gonna hold you up. Well, you know, I want to say is Garrett Mitchell. If anybody knows, Garrett, I want to have him on the podcast.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:21
On the podcast.

Scott Benner 1:08:22
Yeah, get him get him to reach out to me, please. But yeah, I think he was like the 20th pick. 18th pick something like that. Let me look. I mean, he went high. Like, he's gonna, he's gonna play, he's gonna get paid, like the whole, you know. So it's exciting to me that your son's starting tee ball tonight. When I can, I can think back to my son's first practice for t ball. And the other day, he was trying out for a semi pro team. And oh my

Laura 1:08:51
gosh, that's so cool. I would love for him to keep it up. I played softball growing up my husband play baseball. So we're definitely a baseball family. We love it. And he has so much fun out there being with the other kids and just the awesomeness that there's no restrictions that he can be out there just like anybody else. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:09:08
I believe that for sure. And I think you'll figure it out too. It's not going to be baseball is interesting in practice shouldn't affect in the same way a game does. And I think you would see higher blood sugar's in baseball versus lower. If I had to

Laura 1:09:21
guess with the adrenaline,

Scott Benner 1:09:23
noradrenaline that it is activity because baseball's you know,

Unknown Speaker 1:09:27
it's well, in short spurts.

Laura 1:09:30
If practice is any indication, I'm sure he probably won't move much at all. He's he kicks dirt, and

Unknown Speaker 1:09:36
hey, pay attention. There's,

Scott Benner 1:09:38
there's somebody batting, I watched the boy pick up a bug once in the outfield, and I thought, I don't think he's long for this. We'll see. That's really interesting. Well, I really appreciate you coming on and doing this and it was lovely to meet you in Dallas. Hopefully one day I'll get to go back there again. But I mean, let's let's be honest, we're not sure All right, well, the best everybody there. Thank you very much for doing this.

Laura 1:10:05
Thank you for having me. Of course.

Scott Benner 1:10:11
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