#653 Step to the Jet

March 29, 2022Scott Benner

Janet is the mother of a college aged type 1.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, and welcome to episode 653 of the Juicebox Podcast.

Today we'll be speaking with Janet. She is the mother of a young man who has type one diabetes, and he has recently left for college. Those things and much more will be discussed over the next hour. Please remember while you're listening, that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. Have you taken the T one D exchange survey? It's AT T one D exchange.org. Forward slash juice box. Your answers to simple questions which will take you I'm gonna say fewer than 10 minutes to complete. We'll help people living with type one diabetes. It also supports the show when you complete the survey. You need to be a US resident who has type one. We're a US resident who is the caregiver of a type one to complete the survey T one D exchange.org. Forward slash juicebox.

This show is sponsored today by the glucagon that my daughter carries G voc hypo Penn Find out more at G voc glucagon.com. Forward slash Juicebox Podcast is also sponsored by touched by type one, Learn more at touched by type one.org Or follow them on Facebook and Instagram. Touched by type ones mission is to elevate awareness of type one diabetes raise funds to find a cure and inspire those with diabetes to thrive. So that's it whenever you're ready.

Janet 2:11
Okay, I just start talking.

Scott Benner 2:14
This is my favorite part where people uncomfortable tried to introduce themselves. Just Just tell me, tell me whatever you want me to know.

Janet 2:22
Okay. Okay. My name is Janet. I am a military spouse of the been married for 25 years. And 14 moves in 25 years. So that's fun. My son. Leo has been diagnosed with type one he was diagnosed just about a year ago. Well, actually a little over a year ago. I don't know what else to say now. He is we're empty nesters. This time around. We were living in Texas when he was diagnosed. And then we got him all set up in college and then we moved north. So we're now in Ohio. Two kids in college and now we're trying to figure out this whole empty nester thing.

Scott Benner 3:04
Did you get married in 1996?

Janet 3:07
I did. Oh,

Scott Benner 3:09
I was married. 96 is the only reason I know that because I've also been married for 25 years. Okay, how old are you?

Janet 3:15
I am 49. Wow. Yeah, we can come like friends in high school we

Scott Benner 3:22
could have been, and with the fine exception of you were apparently nowhere near me. And but I'm just uh, we were at a wedding this past weekend. And they did some sort of a dance where married couples dance, and they they kind of whittled you away by how long you were married, which I think is a fairly common thing at weddings. And we got to the end and there were three couples left. I was still dancing. I was like, Oh, my God, I'm old. The people who beat us were much older than us. So I was like, alright, well, I guess that's what I'm shooting for. Is that my goal? You know, so it should be you think right. I have to ask you a question before we started about the diabetes stuff. Yeah. Okay, is the empty nest stuff scary.

Janet 4:10
It you know, it's just odd. It's just like, you know, for so long your schedule is built by these, you know, you're sitting in bleachers, or you're driving or you're going to some activity or arranging some activity. And so now all of a sudden, we have to kind of build our own schedule a little bit and so and then the constant of you know, stalking your children when they're, you know, five states away and wondering what they're doing and so we're getting used to it in some of it's really fun. Like my husband went on a TDY which is military version of a business trip a couple days ago, and I'm like, Hmm, I'm just gonna buy my plane ticket and join them because I can't Yeah, so I've never really good Good Goods and positives and but also a little weird.

Scott Benner 4:58
Yeah, I I found myself, I'm beginning to lean into it. Now, even though Arden's just in high school, but school went back and she's very active and things that are happening at the school and she drives now, which is amazing. And you know, so she's sort of in and out of the house and doesn't need me for anything, you know, related to her waking or bathing or anything like that. And I'm just like, last night, it's like midnight, and Kelly's gonna go to bed. I'm again, pretty soon. I don't have to record till noon tomorrow. And so it's like, you know, a little bit. I watched a little something, I fell asleep. I slept later than I usually do. I was like, huh, is this but it's gonna be this isn't bad. Although my imagination tells me that at some point in the next couple of years, Kelly's going to kill me or kick me out of this house.

Janet 5:41
You're gonna need a different hobby. It's my expectation. She's

Scott Benner 5:44
gonna be like, Oh, wow, look at him sleeping while marking. So anyway, that's, that's pretty cool. Is your husband staying in for the I mean, he's obviously a lifer. But how long does he keep going?

Janet 5:56
Well, at this point, the Air Force will tell us, we were kind of at that point where, you know, if the, the job he's either offered and we can say, You know what, nope, that's not for us. Or, how about this? And we say yes, let's go. Well, it's worth another couple. Couple years. So we are at the, at that point where it's kind of a mutual decision between the it's kind of hard to explain, I guess. But I guess we are waiting, you know, for the next job. And if it comes, it comes and if it's not, okay, thank you for your service, you know, kind of thing. So we're at that point.

Scott Benner 6:35
So he's at the point where they may offer him something new that thing, maybe it's someplace else where they may just say we were paying you way too much money? You've been here too long get out of here?

Janet 6:45
Well, no, actually, it will. I mean, we will move if he does get offered another job. And next job, it will be at another location. You know, we don't know how long we'll be here. It could be one year, it could be two, it could be three, we don't know. Such as such as the state of where he is right now. So the the next job? Oh, it's just gets really weird. When you're at his point of his career, you know, the guy becomes really tight up at the top of the pyramid, you know, so

Scott Benner 7:17
we don't know. We'll see when you guys got married. What what did he do?

Janet 7:21
He was in there. He was in the Air Force, actually. He went to the airport Academy. And he had just he graduated and was getting his master's and I graduated. And then he finished school. We got married and hopped in a car drove across the country. And he started pilot training. So yeah, this is all this has been our life.

Scott Benner 7:41
The entire time. He's a pilot. And yes, does he fly jets? Does he fly transports? Like? Yes,

Janet 7:48
well, he flew, he flew F 15 fighters for for the first portion of his career. And then he went over into the instructor pilot training side of the house. So then he was flying the T 38, which is the fighter trainers. So he did that. And now he's currently flying a desk. So

Scott Benner 8:08
the closest I can come to understanding what you're saying is that I am excited for the new Top Gun movie to come out.

Janet 8:14
Oh, am I so I'm so excited. It's so cheesy and so unreal. But I'm so excited.

Scott Benner 8:20
I don't like giving Tom Cruise money, but it has to be done. Because

Janet 8:24
it does in this case. I do. I do.

Scott Benner 8:25
Do. You grew up in 80s? It does. Oh, yeah. Okay, so my last question about your life is if I asked you to rattle off all the places you've lived, do you think you could actually hit them all?

Janet 8:38
I could. Good. Good. Okay. So started off in Columbus, Mississippi. And then we went to Tyndall, Florida. We went to United Kingdom, England, back to Florida. Then we went to Wichita Falls, Texas, then to Leavenworth, Kansas, then to Ramstein, Germany. Back to Texas, and San Antonio, then to Washington, DC, then to another base in England, and then to Belgium, Brussels, Belgium, and then Wichita Falls, and then he deployed for a year so I stayed with Chuck balls, and then now we're in Ohio.

Scott Benner 9:16
Your favorite place overseas to live was?

Janet 9:19
That's a hard one. They all have, you know, different stages of life. Two factors in there. You know, when you're, you know, young no kids, that's it's a different, fun place to do Europe. But Belgium, Belgium was interesting. It was very, very easy to travel from Belgium. So we were also there during the the built in terrorist attacks. So that part wasn't very fun. But the food was great. The people are fun. But towards the end, we were ready to come back to the States.

Scott Benner 9:50
That was a juxtaposition I didn't expect. Terrorist attacks were terrible, but the food was outstanding.

Janet 9:57
We're gonna look at the positives. Right,

Scott Benner 10:00
I'll tell you what you see that on Yelp, you don't know what to do. How about in the States? Where did you enjoy living the best?

Janet 10:08
Um, our family is from Texas originally. So I always kind of like, I've liked that our, our career has been able to send us there a few times. I loved Florida also, I, I joke that you know, we've always lived either in Europe or in the south. So like, this is actually the most northern in the states I've ever lived. And so I'm a little concerned like I'm getting get concerned about the, the weather the winter, but but we haven't we haven't been here too long. So I haven't really explored a lot yet. But so far, people are nice. And it's gorgeous. We've had gorgeous weather since we've been here. So

Scott Benner 10:45
well, we could have done this live a couple days ago, I drove to Kentucky, I went right through Ohio, so we could have done it at a rest stop. would have been way creepy. Yeah. Hi, Janet. Let's do this. We'll do this at a Chick fil A. Anyway, how old are your two kids? So your you have a non type one? Is that your oldest?

Janet 11:11
Yes, yes. So my daughter is 20. And then my son is now 18.

Scott Benner 11:15
At NEC he's, this is pretty much why you've come on today's to talk about this whole thing. So he was diagnosed about a year ago. While he was in high school. My first question, of course, is do you have any type one in the family or other autoimmune issues?

Janet 11:31
Nope. It was totally out of the blue. Okay.

Scott Benner 11:35
Even looking back now thyroid, a sleepy ant? Nothing like that. Nothing? No crazy. Okay. What how did it present?

Janet 11:47
Okay, let's see, we just started he had just started back to school to our being from North Texas, we didn't really lock down as a lot as as bad as a lot of the other country of the country did. So he was bright out about a week in school, we were doing school. And he was just he was just off. You know, of course. Now, all I know, the symptoms. He had completely, you know, classic symptoms. I just didn't, didn't know what they were. But he was just off. And he was, you know, he had started wearing my reader glasses, which he had just had his physical and was you know, 2020 vision, but then he's I saw someone like kind of stealing my readers so that he could look at things and that was weird. And, and the thirst and the waking up at night. And then one Sunday. We were at church, and he was just like, Mom, do you have any water and I'm like, Dude, it's an hour, you can wait until we get home, you know, kind of thing and we get home, he drinks like a gallon of water. And then he goes into work. And then he came home from work and was just laid out on the couch. Just it just he wasn't being himself. And so I'm like, you know, darn it, we've been able to escape COVID I bet that's what it is because I had no idea. So we go to the urgent care clinic, it'd been a Sunday. And they they gave him a COVID test. And they gave him a strep test and a flu test and, and then there must have been something that he said that kind of, you know, prickled, the the nurse and so she's like, hold on a second. So she went back and she she took some blood. And then she left the room. And then she came back in and just looked me dead in the face and said you need to go to the emergency room now. And I I had no words. I didn't know what to say. And I'm like, okay, okay, and she's like, just go now I'm gonna call them and they're gonna be waiting on you, but no explanation whatsoever. So, we get to the emergency room. They're waiting on us. COVID No, you know, we're all messed up, but they wish this back in and they had him hooked up to an IV very quickly. And the next thing I know, there's, you know, they were saying he's a diabetic, and I think his numbers were Oh, no, I'm sorry, I hit the wrong button on my watch. I was trying to silence it. Okay, sorry.

Scott Benner 14:19
That was the opposite of silence.

Janet 14:24
So, yeah, so we're here is number 2800s. At that time, I had no idea what that meant. And, you know, it was just it was just this whirlwind of activity and they're like, Okay, we need to admit them and you know, but he wasn't he was acting fine even though his he was in aid hundreds he was still kind of like cracking jokes and like what's going on kind of thing and which come to find out his peptides were normal. Like his pancreas is still alive and kickin. He's You know, I guess still way, I mean, he's still in the honeymoon. So so that that was a weird thing that they had to kind of figure out what the actual diagnosis because the all the signs for type one were there but there were still signs that as Pancras was alive, so there was that. And then they got us admitted. And this is I guess, looking back on it now it's funny at the time, I was really mad, but I hadn't, you know, my husband's deployed, of course, this things like this happen when your husband's deployed. And so I hadn't been able to get in touch with him. We're an elevator on the way up to to be admitted into the room, and my phone starts blowing up. So I'm like, does, you know all these, you know, like, either Instagram or text? Or are you okay? Oh, my gosh, what are you getting? Let me know if I can help. What do I do? Did it and I'm like, I haven't spoken to a single person. And so I turn around, and I look at Leo, and I'm like, What did you do? Well, he had gone and posted on Instagram already. That you're, you know, here I am in the hospital, I've got diabetes, you know, kind of thing. And so all of his friends who I'm friends with their parents, were just blowing up my phone, and I haven't even told his dad yet. So that was a I was a little upset about that part. But

Scott Benner 16:26
look into kids, he's like, I could probably get followers out of this. Like, get myself up to 500 or 1000. Even. Jen, I'm gonna do something with you very quickly. Before we go on, you have an Apple computer, I'm guessing from the sounds I'm hearing? Yes, the top. You gotta turn that off top left of your screen, you click on the apple, then we're gonna go then we're gonna go to System Preferences. Okay, then we're gonna go to sound

and then there's a sound effects tab, you should be on it already. Halfway down the the dialog box it says play sound effects through and then there's a slider alert, volume slider underneath it, slide it all the way to the left, make it zero.

Janet 17:14
internal speakers? Or did you say something else? Sound effects, sound effects.

Scott Benner 17:17
And then there's my way the left? Yep. And then you just leave that window open somewhere. So you don't forget to slide it back in and that you can quit it when we're finished. And that way your emails and other stuff won't pop through what?

Janet 17:28
Thank you for that, because I was really concerned about that. Right?

Scott Benner 17:31
Listen, anyone else listening to wants to be on the show you have an Apple computer, just do that before you get on and say it again. It'll be perfect. Now, here's the thing that I know from your note that people listening don't know is that your son wants to be a pilot like your husband. Yes. And this makes that not a thing anymore.

Janet 17:51
For the most part, I tell you the, the the minute that I heard the term diabetes, I knew in the back of my head that that was almost a negative percentage chance. But I didn't know how to tell him. And that that actually is the one part that makes me the most emotional. Excuse me. You know, we're sitting it was, I think we're on day, he was in the hospital for five days. And I think it was on day three. And I'm just still haven't gotten up the guests to tell him this. And I just remember the doc walks in and, and he's like, you know, going over the stuff, how are you doing? Are you learning, right? And blah, blah, blah. And then he's like, Well, you can do anything in the world you want to do you know, you just take keep this in control, you're fine, you're going to be good. So what do you want to do when you grow up? And I just froze, because I had been trying to think of a way to bring this up in there. It was laid out right in front of us, you know, and so Leo just looks at him. He's like, I'm gonna join the Air Force. I'm gonna be a pilot, like my dad. And the doc goes, except that

Scott Benner 19:02
wow, what a bedside manner.

Janet 19:06
And, and I'm like, I was like watching a train wreck. You know, I'm, I'm sitting there like, No, this is not happening. This is not happening. And there, there you go. There it happened. And, and that that was what really shattered. My heart was seeing, you know, his face just fell. He had he had he's got he's got such a quirky sense of humor. And he's so he's cracking jokes and already joking about, you know, oh, I got to do this. I don't die, you know, saying all his funny things. And he I was really impressed with them. He had such a great attitude about the whole thing and then all of a sudden has just been there and just cracked. And so, you know, we've had a lot of heartfelt conversations about it. He's currently he's in the College of Engineering. And you know, basically we're kind of like, well, if you can't, can't fly the plane Well, why not design them or do things with them kind of thing. So how ever just a few months ago, the Air Force Academy graduated its first type one diabetic cadet, he fought it and he brought he you know, cuz he was diagnosed when he was at the Academy. And it was basically they medically retire you they make you get out and he fought it. And he actually won. He presented all his, his numbers and his things and he's like, look, I might not be able to deploy that. I can do things. And he actually, they commissioned him just three months ago. So I sent that article to my son, I was like, Hey, dude, you know, look at this, it might be an uphill battle, but someone just cracked a window, you might want to consider, you know,

Scott Benner 20:52
trudging through trying to wiggle through a little bit. Yeah, that's, um, that is really sad. Also, the doctor seems like the kind of guy who would break up with you by going, if you're dating a doctor, raise your hand and then you start putting up your hand goes, nope, not so fast. May I say, John, you and I don't know each other. Well, but that's a douchey move. The way he did that.

Janet 21:14
It was probably a he was he actually was a nice guy. I think it was probably just a reaction of what he can do that, you know, I don't think he expected to hear

Scott Benner 21:24
you don't normally ask a question that has infinite positive answers and one wrong answer. Here, you know, it's like when you make a joke about somebody I don't know. That's something really uncomfortable in front of somebody in somebody like that. That's I have that you're like, oh, geez, sorry. Like, that seems safe. You know? This this guy, your kid? I'm assuming in that little gap of time you like maybe he changed his mind? Is there any way thinking of something else now? I hope he says I hope he says truck driver. You know, which by the way was an uphill battle for a long time and now okay. Yeah, I used to not be able to drive over the road trucks when you type on either

Janet 22:05
No, and I've heard also like the SWAT teams now you can be on a SWAT team and now you can do airliners you can fly airliners now, so the technology is absolutely amazing. And so I so we Hey, dude. This is what you want to do. Don't give up yet.

Scott Benner 22:23
Try to think of his name. But I had the guy on here who got like the first license to to flop to fly the jetliners he. I can't think of his name. I'll figure it out. Yeah, I

Janet 22:34
remember listening to that one. Yeah, I think not the

Scott Benner 22:37
same thing though. Your son wanted to do it through the military. Right. So yeah, yeah. Well, geez, so that's an auspicious start to this whole thing. How did the the the medical side of it go? Has he taken to that reasonably well? And how about you? What did you guys do for management?

Janet 22:56
Well, he is um, I will say that I've heard you know, time and time again on your show about certain doctors not really knowing kind of the thing of how what even type one is and I there was a huge stark difference between the ER doctor and the actual pediatric doctor because Leo was still 17 at the time while we were in the hospital, and the ER doctor was basically like, well, you've got yourself a diabetic that means you can no longer eat ABCDEFG you know, you're going to have to really change your entire lifestyle, you're going to have to do everything and so we're listening to this like going okay, this is a huge life change. Well, it is but you know, the doctor was already was focused on the, the food he can no longer eat anymore. You know, that's basically the first kind of advice we got in the ER. Once we got up to the peat floor and the nurses were talking with us and those doctors were coming in and seeing us they seem to be a lot more knowledgeable about it. And I think I think they did a good job. You know, we were there. Five days. They they had him you know, from the get go I was hands off. I'm like dude, you're 17 I'm not gonna learn how to give you a shot you need to do this and so he took to it right away and in the hospital, it was all vials and syringes. And all I can remember thinking is that for the rest of my life, I'm going to have to be doing math before he eats anything, you know, everything was just for you have to measure this and math and in how many carbs and all the things but then when we got home, they he went home with pins. He had the Novolog pins and Lantus and he did great from the beginning. He was kind of really on top of it. I now I'm the one that you know, cook the food and managed all the things so I was like I had sticky notes. Every time I would make a meal I would run Write out exactly how many carbs was in everything. And I was very, very anal about it. I was just like, oh, no, is this a this is a medium orange? Or is this a large? You know, I was so crazy. And then eventually, I don't know, I just kept getting frustrated with Leo, like, you need to know exactly how many carbs are in this. And he's like, yeah, it looks like about 15 You know, kind of thing. So he was much more laid back about everything than I was I keep I joke that, you know, I'm like, When Harry Met Sally, Sally, that is me. And he's like, laid back days confused. Matthew McConaughey. You know, just like, oh, that's, it'll be alright. Look at that. It's, it's good. It looks, I'll give myself 45. And if I need a bump up, I will kind of thing. So he's kind of really taken to it a lot more. Just easy, an easier approach to it. And, really, this kind of segues a little bit until and into how I found your podcast, because, you know, I guess when you're when your kid gets diagnosed with, with anything, really, people start coming out of the woodwork of, oh, that happened to me, or, Oh, my best friend's son has it or whatever. So, all of a sudden, I found all these people who knew about type one that I didn't know before. You know, they out of the woodwork and and you're this one lady said, You need to listen to the Juicebox Podcast, it'll help you out a lot. And I'm like, I hear the word podcast. And I was like, I don't do podcasts. I've never listened to one in my life. I'm not a auditory person, I'd rather read it or watch it and just listen to it, if that makes sense. And so I was like, I kind of blew it off. And then heard it again from from another random person who someone had given me her number. And so I called and like, hey, you know, such and such picked us up. They said, You have a King College. What's he windy? Can I ask you some questions? Sure did. And right before we got off the phone, she's like, listen to the Juicebox Podcast. And again, I'm like, No, I'm not going to do that. Because I don't do that.

Scott Benner 27:25
You didn't think what are the odds of two people recommending a podcast to me? Right? Well,

Janet 27:32
well, apparently I did. Because I'm like, so I walk a lot. And just to, you know, get outside and walk and kind of when my husband was deployed for the year, that was kind of like my coping mechanism, I would just just walk in and just, you know, go on trails, or whatever. And so I'm like, Okay, I'll try this podcast thing. And so I searched you up, and I listened. And I listened to, like, I was kind of lost. Because I think when I started, you had like, 400 episodes already. So I was like, I have no idea where to even start with this. And then I go, I don't know, if I Googled it, or I did something. Or maybe I think I went to your, your website, I looked at your website first, the Ardennes day. And there was something on there of that. It's like the blue box that has like the top episodes to get started with. Yeah, or whatever. Yeah, I saw that. I found that and I'm like, Okay, well just follow this little list. And so that's what I did. And then I was pretty much hooked. And I haven't listened to every episode. But I've listened to a lot of them. I would scroll through and try to pick, pick the titles. That sounded interesting, but then you can't go by that,

Scott Benner 28:53
because I put no effort into that. Yeah.

Janet 28:57
Like, I have no idea what this is gonna be about. So. Um, so I will say that your podcast really helped me relax, okay. It helped me realize that. It was it was manageable. And here's the tools to how to do it. You know, so I found it relatively quickly. In fact, I started listening to you before we went to our first diabetes educator, person. And I'm glad because I felt like the information was presented to me in a way that I could get it. Whereas before, everything was just very clinical and numbers and you have to do this math and then enter in this code and blah, blah, blah. Whereas now I was like, Okay, now I kind of knew what was going on. I knew what was happening, if that makes sense.

Scott Benner 29:53
Well, not only does that make me feel good, but you've you've saved my week because today is Thursday as we record it on Tuesday. I heard a story about how somebody found the podcast. And then she told me she didn't really like me very much. And I was like, Oh, this is fun for me. Go ahead. Explain why you don't like me. And then she did. And, and then she ended up liking me. And I was like, Okay, thank you. So I told her, that I just think you need to be straightforward about this stuff. And that you need to feel like the person you're listening to understands. And then and that sort of has to do with, like, you have to speak with an authoritative confidence. You know, like, either I understand this, or I don't if I don't understand that, then I'm here to commiserate with you, which is not going to help you, you know, beyond that commiseration. But if you? I don't know, I just I know how to do this. I don't think that that's a bad thing to say out loud. You know what I mean? And I feel confident about it among most of the decisions that need to be made. So anyway, I'm glad cuz I was scared Janet. Church, you said church, she said Texas a couple of times. And I was like, she's not gonna lie to me when she got to the spot. So I was like, I'm all beat up now. My like, now I got my hands up. I'm waiting to get hit in the face. But I'm glad you liked it. I'm glad you listened to those people. And thank you to them. Yeah, seriously, I tell people all the time. The podcast grows because people share it. Like I don't, I don't pay for I couldn't afford to and I don't have marketing. Marketing a podcast is not the way to make it grow to begin with it's word of mouth. And so if people don't take the time to tell someone else, it just kind of languishes. But instead, today, September 30. And this was the most downloaded month in the history of the podcast this month, had more downloads by almost 100% Then did 2018. And it almost this month almost had as many downloads as 2019 In total, crazy yeah, I feel it's crazy to It shocks me every time I say it.

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Janet 33:18
I'm not walking?

Scott Benner 33:21
I mean, I mean, generally when you're walking and listening, you don't speak out loud to me do

Janet 33:25
I? Typically not? Yeah, but I giggle a lot because that's why I think we would have been friends in high school because your movie quote or you'll say, you know, referencing movies? And I'm like, Yeah, we're totally in the same timeframe.

Scott Benner 33:39
Oh my god, I always just imagine the younger people are like, they just bear down and think they said my a onesie, you'll get better. I'm just gonna make it through this. Anyway, well, that's really cool. But does it translate to your son? Because he's managing himself mainly. And oddly enough, he is sort of has my vibe it is sort of like just use more or something like that. Yeah. So but how do you get the information you're finding to him? And how much pressure Do you feel to do that before he leaves for college? Yeah.

Janet 34:10
He, at the first at the onset, once I started listening to you, he was pretty open to i Listen, when I learned today, you know, and I couldn't get him to actually listen to the podcast. Now on a couple of occasions. If I had him trapped in the car. I would I would put I'm like, okay, hear me out. Let's just listen to one kind of thing and but where I knew that it was getting through to him, because you know, a lot of times I would just get the grunts back like Uh huh. Yeah. Okay, whatever kind of kind of things that when I knew what I was saying was actually seeping in was actually at our first diabetic counselor session. When she made a comment about you know, let's look at our numbers. Let's look at the range. And before I could say anything, he said, I don't want to go over 120 Or I want to set it at 120. And I'm like, oh my god, he was listening to me. Actually, he actually listened to something I said, and then so he might, you know, fight me a little bit on it on the on the surface, but ultimately, he definitely buys in to this philosophy. And I've heard him mentioned before, things like, well, I'd really rather you know, catch a low than battle a high and that sort of thing. So, you know, now that I'm not nagging him all the time, and he's in a completely different state. I feel more comfortable that he gets it now. Does he have all the fine tunings down like, you know, I was listening to your podcasts it aired, I think, last week, maybe with the doctor, was it, Addy, Dr. Salah Gowdy,

Scott Benner 36:01
he was really good, wasn't he?

Janet 36:03
Oh, he was fantastic. But I'm like, Okay, this is the Especially that last half when he was talking about the basil and, and everything I'm like, This is what I need to listen to. Because he that's the kind of stuff he still I think plays a little fast and loose. Sometimes when he's just like, Oh, I'll, I'll just throw more at it later, or whatever. So that's, that's kind of like the more fine tuning that I really want him to get to, so that he doesn't fluctuate as much as he does sometimes, especially. And that's actually one of the questions that I had come on to me during that Dr. oddies. podcast was he was talking about getting it straight throughout the night, that Basal rate straight throughout the night, that way, you kind of reasonably know that you've got it. Right. And, and my thought process was, yeah, but he's in college staying up till 3am eating pizza, you know. So

Scott Benner 37:04
I do you just go to whatever his sleeping time is like, the idea is that, first of all, I have to tell you that when he said that, I was so proud of myself, because I came up with that thought by myself without talking to anybody else. And this guy seemed brilliant. And anything he said that I agreed with, I was like, Oh, it made me feel very good. Anyway, yeah. But yeah, so you just want like, away from Bolus or active insulin? How does he sit stable, and then nighttime ends up being the easiest because, you know, you imagine your stop eating at some point before you go to sleep, and maybe you can even watch it from like, 2am to whatever, you know, your son shouldn't be growing too much anymore. Right. So whatever works in that space is kind of a good jumping off point for other times a day, I think is the idea. But I hear what you're saying. He's probably up till two in the morning. Is he a freshman? Yeah, he's

Janet 38:00
a freshman. Yeah,

Scott Benner 38:01
they don't, they don't go to school even barely. They just, you know.

Janet 38:07
Say, I'm really proud of this kid. He's actually he called me in a panic, like three weeks ago, because he overslept for a class and was late. And I'm like, Well, the fact that you're panicked about that makes me feel good.

Scott Benner 38:21
I'm gonna, I'm gonna crap on your parade here for a second. I got that exact same phone call. When Cole was a freshman. I just woke up, I overslept. I'm really sorry. The class is 10 minutes into it. I don't know what to do. And I was like, Is there time for you to get to the class? He just Yeah, I said walk in and when he makes eye contact with you go, I'm sorry. And then sit down. Or excuse me, I was like, it's not a big deal. I was like, It's okay. And then a couple of days ago, Cole FaceTime me to say he wasn't feeling well. The the entire campus got sick when of course they were all reintroduced to each other after a year and a half. So they all have the same kind of sniffily head cold. And he's like, I didn't feel good. It's exciting. Go to class yesterday. I was like, Oh, I don't hear the same panic in your voice. Did when you when you were freshmen. He's like, I can make it up and I was like, Yeah, okay. Thanks. All my money. Every every dollar I make off an ad from this thing is just over at that college and he's like, I didn't go today. Yeah, that's good. Rest up, buddy. Once you're nice and fresh, don't worry. I'll just keep working. No, but seriously, I was very proud of my son that day to when he made that same phone call. I was like, wow, this is like, you know, either this means something to him or at least he has respect for us. Yeah, yeah. So

Janet 39:48
definitely so Oh, but he's, he's really doing He's really doing good. I think I'm probably struggling the most because I don't have that. You know, I was making I was his little Isn't his food and I was in control of all that. And now I'm not in control of any of it, you know. And so it's, it's, that's the part that gets me the most and he's on Dexcom. But the past four days actually, while we were talking, it just shot back on. For the past four days he had, he hadn't basically called for a few replacement ones that he needed at they had like, either had malfunctioned or whatever. And so he ran out of them. And so he had like one left until he could get his new prescription. And he was just going to wait, hold off a few days before putting it on. I was like, are you okay to fingerstick? In again for a few days? He's like, Yeah, I'm good. I'm good. You know, but me, I'm like checking my phone twice a day hoping. The darn Dexcom back on and sure enough, it just right. As we were talking, I got a high glucose notification. So apparently is back on.

Scott Benner 40:58
That's good. Did he put it back on? Do you think he do you think he was just looking to be autonomous for a couple of days?

Janet 41:05
I don't know. i He, I think that that's a possibility. That's a possibility of him. Just kind of taking a break from mom in his blood sugar kind of thing.

Scott Benner 41:16
So you did indicate earlier that you're tracking him? I'm assuming through Find My iPhone?

Janet 41:21
Yes, yeah. Actually, we have the live 360.

Scott Benner 41:26
Okay, whichever one you're used to

Janet 41:27
find my iphone works. When we get the low notification in the middle of the night. We have had to call him a couple times. And if he doesn't answer his phone, send that then we ping him on Find My iPhone. And that always wakes him up.

Scott Benner 41:41
I've done that to Arden while she's in school. And then I get a text back. What are you doing? That's so loud? I'm like, You should have answered me. I didn't hear it. I'm like, Well, you heard that. So we're all good. Now don't worry about stop yelling at me and Bolus. We haven't done that in a while, of course, because you know, COVID. Well, is his plan. I mean, it's such an unfair question, because he's a freshman. And I still my son's a senior and I don't, he's got a degree in a, he's gonna have a degree in A minor. And I still don't think he has, if I asked him what he want to do for a living, I don't know that he would have any answer for that. So but is your son shifting his focus? Or is he going to put his head down and try to run through that glass ceiling? Or what's he doing there?

Janet 42:25
You know, I don't know. And I don't know if he knows quite yet. I think that I think what he's probably going to do is finish out college and then pursue, if he chooses to try then try for a OTS officer training school and go through that way. I think, I don't think he's going to try and join an ROTC program or anything. But, you know, I'm wondering if this is just where he needs to be. You know, he's always my husband has always been very military and very short hair, and, you know, just fine in the uniform, whereas Leo has always been more of a of a freer spirits, you know, he's got a beard and he's got he's not clean cut, you know, and he's, he's more of his just express myself wearing, you know, taco cat T shirts, or whatever. And so I never really saw him want to be in the military as far as he'd have to shave. And you have to follow these rules. And he's always kind of, you know, he's a good kid. He follows the rules for the most part, but he makes his own way. He definitely has his own way of doing things and they work for him. And so I don't know if this is maybe something that's more than that he'll Jive more to on this end, maybe still working with military but not actually in the uniform kind of thing. Or he could choose to hey, let's I do want to continue to pursue being a pilot. So yeah, no, I think he's, I think he's just kind of feeling it out right now.

Scott Benner 44:12
That's perfect. I would guess too, even if he felt like maybe even if he just felt like a little pressure like this is what we do. Maybe that releases him from that even you know what I mean? So I'm sure it'll be tough he sounds like a great person. So I'm sure it'll be good you agree with me about a lot of stuff so that makes me like you and then that makes me feel good about your kid. So see how easy it is to win me over just the gray that's all so with it so you put all this effort into understanding diabetes and then the diabetes left did right feel more abandoned by the your kid go into college or that task being taken from you?

Janet 44:56
I don't know cuz I still I still listen to your podcasts even though No, I've heard you say before that there's like a six month limit almost when people feel like, okay, I got it. And then they might kind of go, you know, once they feel comfortable that I haven't, I'm not there yet, I still want to learn and in finding, you know, listen to more stories, and I love it when you have the doctors on and the Dexcom CEO, guys, I love those, those are my favorite because I just feel like that's some at least some more information I can pass along to Leo, I feel like I can't kind of mess with his day to day stuff anymore, because he's proven to me that he's still alive after a month of college, and I'm not there. So he's proven to me that he can he can do this. I think. But when I hear from like the doctors or that kind of stuff, and I have like a nugget of hey, guess what's coming down the pike, you know, and he's more receptive to listening to that information for me than he is me saying, Hey, have you Pre-Bolus lately, you know, kind of thing. So. So there's that. And, and another thing that I keep kind of harping on him a little bit is because he's in this extended honeymoon. I mean, he if he goes above 200, I freak out, because he very rarely, if he goes above 200, he just like spikes up there and goes right back down. We have never battled the 300 400 500 that I hear described on your show. We'd never been there once we got out of the initial hospital visit because he was in the eight hundreds at that time. But But since then, we've had loads we've had to lose all the time, because it's like he's he's doing okay, doing okay in range and range. And then his pancreas wakes up and decides to spit some insulin out. And then he dips. So I've always been more fearful of the lows. I've never really been worried about the highs at all, because we just haven't battled them that I know, eventually, they're coming. And so that's kind of my little thing with him. Is that, okay? Remember, what you're doing now won't always be the case. You know, it won't always be the case that a pin will last you over a month and you have to throw it away before because it's, it's expired not because you've finished it, you know, this is insulin needs are still really low. So

Scott Benner 47:25
he's gonna somebody's gonna steal those training wheels off his bike in the middle of the night.

Janet 47:29
Right and that's that's my fear is that he's resting on his laurels because he's got this I got this mom I got this. Well, eventually, they're gonna they're gonna, it's gonna it's gonna change have you?

Scott Benner 47:40
Have you done a good job you think of explaining to him that this is just the beginning and that he's getting help from the pancreas though. Yeah, he knows

Janet 47:49
he, he, he's pretty he's pretty aware of all of it. And he he kind of knows the the biology of it about how his you know the beta cells and all that he kind of he gets it so and he knows that eventually like randomly if he has been kind of trending high a little bit and I'll tell him I was like well do you need to maybe increase your base a little bit or maybe increase your carb ratio he'll he's made comments of I wonder is this it? Is this it? Is my pancreas finally gonna go could put now as this it, but then he'll make some adjustments and it goes kind of back to the way it was. So he's aware of it?

Scott Benner 48:35
Well, that's I mean, all you can ask for it's going to be a shock. Listen, I mean, I've seen people over and over again, they get knocked over by it at first because it's a big adjustment. It doesn't you don't expect the adjustment that's coming even if you're even if you're expecting an end to an honeymoon, you don't expect it to be so drastic, you know, I know for parents of little kids, it's hard for them to go from like point one five an hour to point four. They feel like it's like all the insulin in the world. And for an adult How big is your son?

Janet 49:09
He's a he's a big kid about 181 90 He was a wrestler, he I mean, he's just he just a very big kicks

Scott Benner 49:18
junkie. Yeah, he's gonna need some insulin at some point. And if the amount is if you can stop yourself by being shocked by the number and just meet the need, it's much easier and maybe he'll be okay with that. Maybe he's not going to be put off by the number. You know, just be able to adjust and maybe it'll happen during a break. That would be nice or summer when he's home. That would be nice. Yeah, you could crawl back up his button take care of it

i i cried pretty extensively when I dropped my son off at college, and I'm preparing to just martyr myself when Arden leaves I'm just gonna, it's gonna climb to the top Up the hill and, and well until people come and stone me to that

Janet 50:05
idea that was that was a rough drive and not only were we very good Alright, that was a rough, rough drive because I wasn't we weren't dropping them off at Texas. I felt like you were leaving him we were abandoning my child in Texas and driving to Ohio. That was like a that was tough. That was a really I mean, with my daughter dropping her off. It was hard to of course, she was our first but we lived five hours away at the time. And you know, now I had to jump on an airplane to go down there. And so yeah, it was it was a rough rough drive. Walking away, you know? And

Scott Benner 50:45
do you think you had a little the mother and son thing too? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can't tell what that is. I don't know what dastardly like wiring isn't a mother. But I mean, I first I thought it was because Cole was older. And then I don't even know what it is. Like, I couldn't tell you like Kelly loves Arden completely. But I mean, I feel like she'd pause before murdering you if you came after Arden. But if you can't, like at least she'd be like, it's gonna be wrong to murder this person. But I have to because they're going after my daughter. But if you came after my son, I don't even think there's a mechanism in her brain to make her think. And I don't even I can't understand what that is. But it seems real to me.

Janet 51:27
So, you know, and I, because mine are flipped because my daughter is my older one. Um, just for us, my daughter and I are very similar. We are similar personalities. We think alike. Because of that we can butt heads. So you know, but also she just she always just she was ready. She was ready to go. I saw that she was ready. It was hard. I cried many tears. But she was there she was she was it. She was doing it. You know, with Leo? Yes. He's always been my baby, of course, because he was the second born. But I think it was doubly hard. Because the whole last year, you know, my daughter was away at college. My husband was deployed. And it was just Leo and I, it we were like roommates, we you know, we kind of developed this in diabetes hit. So we also had that to work through together. So we really developed a very tighter bond this last year and in the fact that that I think that added to it as well. Of not only is he my boy and my baby, but now I have to leave him and abandon him in this place far away from me where I can't keep him alive.

Scott Benner 52:47
Was your husband in a war zone? He Yes, he was. And and oddly, he might have gotten the he might have gotten the happier end of the stick. When you're trying to figure out diabetes, I'm assuming I'm assuming that you had at least one phone call where you told him how hard this was. And he said, I'm I'm flying a jet in a war. And,

Janet 53:09
well, he wasn't flying. It was a kind of flying job. But but you know, I actually felt sorry for him because he, you know, as much as out of control as I feel like right now, with Leo being so far away for me. He, my husband had struggled a lot with being away during this that time. I mean, he really couldn't do anything to help and he could listen to me, but he hadn't been able to immerse himself in the whole diabetic vocabulary. So he was barely hanging on to what I was trying to tell him. And then he in turn, didn't know how to help me. And you know, outside of just letting me cry and telling me he loves me that it's gonna be okay, you know. And so he really felt it was just awful for for him. He felt like he was so far away and he couldn't help us work through this. And you know, when I think it really first hit home when he when he was home and we were actually in the middle of our move from Texas, Ohio. And he was right, Leo's low alarm urgent low, came across in the middle of the night, you know, and, and so I'm like, up like shot and in rest is grabbing the phone and trying to you know, figure out, you know, let's call him He's not answering his phone and, and then, you know, it turned out to be a compression low, but me at the end of the day, you know, he wakes up he's like, oh, yeah, I'm all good. It's fine. I'm going back to bed. And you know, but we're so awake. After Leo goes back to bed and, and, you know, he just looked at me and he was just like, I'm so sorry. You had to do this by yourself. I'm so sorry. You know, because he was just now starting to experience what I had experienced for the whole year. And it was really hard on him. It was really it was really hard on him to deal with that. Because you know, he's, he's my rock, and all of a sudden my Iraq is in Iraq. And

Scott Benner 55:19
you're trying to name the episode?

Janet 55:21
Oh, gosh, no.

Scott Benner 55:24
Because I'm very lazy about this. And I will obviously just go with that if if it needs to be, well, no, I can't. I can't agree with you more honestly, that that helpless feeling exists when you're there. But But putting that kind of distance between it. I can't imagine how that must ratchet it up. Yeah, and, and vice versa, too, right. Like, now you're aware that he feels bad, he's aware that you're struggling, neither of you can help each other he can even learn about diabetes. And then he understands to that time is going to take away and before you know it, your son's gonna be off at college. And he might never have that. That connection of understanding with him. You know, and and probably had to listen to you talk about some guy on a podcast over a scratchy phone call, which I'm assuming was really irritating. I get notes from guys sometimes that are like, you know, I can't take your my wife telling me about you anymore.

Janet 56:27
It's a good problem to have there right.

Scott Benner 56:29
Now for them. They're irritating for them. Yeah, so I just, you know, being overseas like that? I don't know, I have no context for that, obviously. But it sounds just extra difficult. It really does. But he's it. But it sounds like Leo's doing well, it sounds like he's aware of what may or may not happen. Are you concerned about drinking, do you think he's going to drink

Janet 56:55
he's actually, he's got a much better head on his shoulders than I do sometimes about that stuff. He's really good with self control. You know, us actually, as living in Belgium, the drinking age was 16. And so, you know, he's had, he's had a beer, he's, you know, we've, it's, we've never, we've never been a never, never, never, we've always been a, you need to do this, if you're going to do this, you're going to responsible, you have to be responsible, and you have to know how things affect your body. And, you know, sitting on the couch is a lot different than being in a bar somewhere. So we've always just been very realistic, and just know, know yourself and know who you're with, and be responsible. So that's always been our mantra with that, because I I did not follow the rules when I was in college. And so I can't, I have to know in my heart of hearts that they might not either. So we've always tried to take that approach of you need to be careful, always. And he is actually he's, he's very responsible. With it, I I'm not going to hold any, you know, imaginations that he's not ever not going to. But I did have the, the diabetic counselor, walk them through it, you know, like, if you do choose to drink alcohol, you need to do A, B, C, and D. And you need to be very careful, and you need to eat and you need to you know, keep your alerts on and don't turn your phone off and all these kind of things. So we've talked about it, but I definitely say of, of all the members of our family that could would be the most responsible in that aspect. I think he's he's, he's it so

Scott Benner 58:49
I gotta be honest with you. I was hoping you would say the guy flying the plane but I understand what you're getting at.

Janet 58:55
Well, that's what the bottle was throttle rule is

Scott Benner 58:58
that sounds like a thing. Do you it is a thing.

Janet 59:00
It is a thing. You can't drink a certain amount of time before you get into the start the process of the plane, anything with the plane so they call it bottle the throttle?

Scott Benner 59:11
Do you guys have a private plane? Like do you and your husband go out on weekends and things like that?

Janet 59:16
We do not but that is on his bucket list.

Scott Benner 59:21
That's gonna be your retirement is him flying you places and seeing taking a sandwich so you'll get tired of that. Okay, that's not the point. That's

Janet 59:28
the great irony is I'm scared to fly. I do it. But I I'm nervous the entire time.

Scott Benner 59:35
How are you with your husband flying? Did that ever? Does that bother you? Was it something you just give away? Like being a cop's wife or something like

Janet 59:41
it took a long time. It took a long time it when he was back in pilot training. I was always a basket case. And like I wanted him to Well, this was before cellphones, really but I wanted him to like, you know, just give me a quick call when he landed. I was a little more you know, freaked out about it. Then now I've really, I'm, I mean, I trust him. He's a good pilot, I know he's gonna be okay. And I just, you know, I leave it at that. But it was a journey, it took me a while to get there. And there's always little, little, you know, whether they call him when your old house tales, wife kills or whatever, it superstitions, things like that. But you know that we never break their taboos that that you don't do. Like, once he steps to his jet. That's it, I don't call him I don't text him. He doesn't call me he doesn't text me. His brain is solely on his mission. And there, you know, fast forward. Gosh, it was in his last assignment, I was doing a tour with a group of ladies at the squadron. And as we entered into this, I call it the stinky room because that's where all their gear hangs. And, you know, like, it's like a big, massive locker rooms smell you know,

Scott Benner 1:00:56
a car smells when calls home playing baseball.

Janet 1:01:00
And as we're walking through it, I see at the end of the room, I see him and he's he's putting his he's getting his gears, he's got his G suit on, he's putting his getting his helmet all ready to go step to a jet, and we lock eyes. And I like almost had a panic attack. Because once he steps to the jet, you're not supposed to see me or think about me, you think about the mission, you know, and it's always been our little thing. And I spent the rest of the day freaked out like, something that happened is I when he came home, he was like, It's okay, I'm fine.

Scott Benner 1:01:34
That's when that's when it's easy for him to forget about you. He was like, Yeah, that's fine. I won't worry. I'll tell you. We're in Lieberman. I don't know if you know who that is. He's the Pentagon correspondent for CNN. He also has type one. And he's a he's a pilot too. And when he was on the podcast, we learned that his parents and where his plane is very close to my house. And he was just, I think he was being polite. He's like, I'll take you out one time. And I'm like, no, like, I don't want to do that. I don't want to go up in your tiny little plane that you were able to afford on your own. That seems wrong.

Janet 1:02:09
Yeah, he's had to kind of walk me taught me that taught me into it over the years. And he's. So I don't know if you know, financially, it'll ever be feasible. But he's he wants to get his private pilot's license. So that wants our time in the Air Force's is over that that is an option open to him. So he's excited about it,

Scott Benner 1:02:31
I would start flying jets and then just you guys could just constantly be on vacation, you probably could sell your home, you could just bounce around the world for a while. That'd be fun. My last question for you. And then I'm gonna ask you if there's anything we haven't talked about. But my last question for you is how engaged in diabetes? Do you think you're going to be over the next handful of years with Leo?

Janet 1:02:56
Oh, I think as long as he's open to me still being engaged, I can't see myself exiting that at all. I think that at some point, in some minor little way, he appreciates my nagging. Or at least he appreciates me doing all the research and sharing the the nuggets within that. So that he doesn't have to do it himself. I know I'm very anxiously awaiting the, the new the newest Omnipod and Dexcom. So that we can try the whole loop thing. I'm not quite comfortable enough with doing it the do it yourself stuff. I've looked into it. I've researched it, but I'm not that comfortable with it yet. I think I'd rather wait until it's pre packaged for me.

Scott Benner 1:03:51
Yeah. On the five you're talking about? Yeah, yeah.

Janet 1:03:55
Yeah. So I'm looking forward to that. And I, he doesn't really he doesn't have a stigma about the diabetes. I know. A lot of kids do they either hide it or don't want to be very open with it. And, and he's just, he doesn't care. He's like, and he actually hates the term. Or he doesn't prefer the term diabetic, because he's like, I'm not a diabetic. I'm Leo and I happen to have diabetes kind of thing. You know, so he doesn't, he's just like, it's okay. It's just part of me if you see my pod, fine, whatever, I don't care. So he's very good about that. And so I don't think he'll ever kick me off of his Dexcom or anything like that. But I think as we progress and as he matures and grows and my hope is that he does get a little more involved and still continuing to learn about it because because of the the new things that are coming down, you know, right now, it's all me saying, Oh, guess what, guess what's coming or or that kind of thing. And I hope that one day he takes that on. But I really can't see myself really stepping out of it all the way unless he really wants me

Scott Benner 1:05:08
to pushes you away. Yeah. Well, that sounds about like how I would have answered. So I think it's great. I think, I think that I'd love to talk to Leo in a couple years after he's used on the pod five for a while. And that would be really interesting. For a person who's newly diagnosed in college to start on that it'd be, it'd be a good information to have at some point. So Leo, if you're listening, just, you know, hit me up, like in a year or two.

Janet 1:05:35
We'll well tell him to I don't know, I still he's still, I still can't get him to listen, you know, on his own. So maybe,

Scott Benner 1:05:42
listen, I wouldn't if I don't know if I would listen to the podcast, although I have to tell you something. And and then I'll let you go. I know I have you over time. Earlier, you talked to you referred to when I said people seemed like a six month of life. That was something I learned from the internet from social media that I just assumed would translate to the podcast, but it doesn't seem that it has. So yeah, I think there's something about listening to the stories that's entertaining outside of diabetes. And I have to admit that a couple of the podcasts that I listened to were on hiatus this week, and I listened to my own podcast once and when I got done, I was like, This is good. I was entertained by it. Like it kept me It kept my attention for the hour. And so I'm not seeing people drift away from the podcast the way I see them just away from online help. Okay, so that's, I, you know, that's good. I have my fingers crossed. I think that's why the, the numbers grow. Because people hang around to listen to other people's stories, too.

Janet 1:06:42
You're not losing the old ones, you're just adding new ones just adding more.

Scott Benner 1:06:45
So you know, I like that you're listening. And there's people who listen, who don't have diabetes. There's a person I always think of who listens to stay close to their kids. You know, so there's, there's a, there's a lot going on here. So I appreciate that you found it and that your friends, or your acquaintances, actually, I meant to give you props earlier, you did something difficult as he was diagnosed. And I don't know if you realize it or not, but people like offered you a phone number to call like, here, reach out to me ask me questions. And you actually did it. You have no idea how often I get to like a note from a friend that says I gave your cell phone number to a friend of mine, and told her to reach out to you about diabetes, and they never reach out. So it's a big deal that you were that you did that I think I

Janet 1:07:36
wonder? Well, I was I was floundering. I mean, I just you know, I was I just was at that point of, okay, this person can help me. I mean, I call you know, the washing machine repair man, if I needed my washing machine repaired. So I need some help here. And you know, this community has been fantastic. Everyone's been very opening and non judging. And here's what I can offer you and and yeah, it's it's, it's, it's really amazing how many lives type one does touch. I mean, it's like you don't you don't even think about it. And then all of a sudden, they're like, oh, yeah, my daughter, oh, yeah, my son or my aunt, or whatever. And you've known this person forever. And you never knew that. So

Scott Benner 1:08:23
now, I'm just telling you from my experience that you had the nerve or the the instinct to reach out. It's a big deal. A lot of people ignore that when people lend a hand. They don't sometimes take it. So that's cool. I was I was I meant to say it when you were talking about and the conversation just kind of got past me. Also, you mentioned that Leo ran out of decks comms and while we were I wrote down a note for me to call. And because I realized aren't only has two left, like, I have to do that. So I appreciate that as well. Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you were hoping to? Oh,

Janet 1:08:57
I'm sure there are but I don't know. I think that I guess that is another thing that me having to give up the control is Leo is now responsible for calling and getting his own things. And that for me is another difficult thing to let go of. Because I'm you know, I have all my ducks in a row and and he shouldn't run out. He should have called already. He's almost running out. Well, you

Scott Benner 1:09:24
can have my kid if you want. Who sent me a note and said I'm out of this. Get me more not Yeah. Tell me how to find it. That's for sure. Yeah, but now I understand. Are you kind of Taipei to begin with?

Janet 1:09:39
Oh, yeah, yeah, I own it.

Scott Benner 1:09:43
Well, you need something else to tell what to do. Call your daughter. Call your daughter up and fix her life. Did you say were you getting ready to say my dogs don't listen to me?

Janet 1:09:58
No dogs don't listen to me. They're so I need to find I need to find something.

Scott Benner 1:10:03
Do you think you'll ever be able to just let it go?

Janet 1:10:06
Oh, I doubt it. I doubt it. I mean, the Janet, you're speaking to you now and the Janet a year from now are completely two different people I have, I have learned to relax. So much more, but it's still I'm on edge a lot. You know, definitely the Dexcom totally helped help with that. But then sometimes you you know, when you get a low in the middle of the night, and then you call him and he's like, Oh, I just checked, I'm at, I'm at 101, I'm fine. So it's, it's that part of it is what scares me the most, because I want to trust the Dexcom, which I do 99% of the time, but then it'll still wake me up and freak me out in the middle of the night. And then it was a compression low. So and I get it, it's a it's a machine things are gonna happen. But I think me, me having to put so much trust into everyone else. And I have zero control is probably a struggle, I'm probably never going to get rid of completely.

Scott Benner 1:11:07
You might be surprised. Yeah, maybe the g7. I'm hoping that the flatter aspect of the g7 might keep it from experiencing compression lows the same way. I don't know if it will or not, but I'm hopeful about that.

Janet 1:11:20
And it's smaller, I'm liking the fact that it's smaller, because Leo does have some issues with the adhesives, you know, of not sticking on or sometimes he'll say, Oh, is this a thing, sometimes he'll he puts it in too hard or too deep, or it draws a little bit of blood and then that blood will just seep into the surrounding adhesive, and then the adhesive won't last

Scott Benner 1:11:46
I would not think of it as being too deep. He probably just nicked a vein, or a little blood vessel I should say. And that does happen. But once it's once it happens, you can kind of rinse it away before it gets to the before it gets to the adhesive. So we just I wake it out with a tissue like I twisted clean tissue up and just stick it in there and wick the blood away and then the bleeding stops before it gets to the adhesive. I have seen people get more of a gusher and they'll just kind of jump in the shower real quick. And let it like like let water run through it until the bleeding stops. But also Dexcom right now, if you call them he'll they'll send him overlay patches to put over it that work really

Janet 1:12:29
well. Yeah. And we've done that we've done that as well. Okay, it's just gets his skin gets so irritated at certain times. But I think

Scott Benner 1:12:36
if I'm remembering the conversation correctly with the g7, the overlays are just going to come with it. So you won't even have to ask for them separately. It'll just be there. Oh, that's perfect. So that'll be cool, too. And that was pretty much it.

Janet 1:12:48
You don't have to deal with my impatience.

Scott Benner 1:12:51
We were really terrific. Were you nervous? We were okay.

Janet 1:12:55
I was nervous. I was nervous is actually really surreal. Like having you talk to me hear your voice in me actually talking back because I'm so used to hearing your voice talking to somebody else. So it was really surreal. I was nervous. But I'm I mean, I've done a lot of public speaking so I was I wasn't shaking or anything. But yeah, I was I was a little apprehensive,

Scott Benner 1:13:21
either great. I thought whatever level of nerves you had you pretty much held on to the entire time. But they didn't that they didn't seem bad. Like they weren't overwhelming. But that's good. I think you're great.

Janet 1:13:32
That way. Yeah, I do tend to talk fast when I get nervous though. So I don't know if you're gonna have to slow me down or something.

Scott Benner 1:13:40
That's great. Are you kidding? I love when people talk. I'm always slowing myself down thinking like, Oh, don't talk so quickly. And you were going like a mile a minute. I was like, this is fantastic. Plus, I didn't have to talk as much. This is like a like I showed up at work today. And somebody started doing my job for me. So it was perfect. Oh, well. You're welcome. Thank you very much.

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