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#1333 I Don't Understand... Arden Five

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The Juicebox Podcast is from the writer of the popular diabetes parenting blog Arden's Day and the award winning parenting memoir, 'Life Is Short, Laundry Is Eternal: Confessions of a Stay-At-Home Dad'. Hosted by Scott Benner, the show features intimate conversations of living and parenting with type I diabetes.

#1333 I Don't Understand... Arden Five

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Scott and Arden discuss roman numerals, green screens and being judgemental.

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Scott Benner 0:00
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It looks like Arden is back today to talk about some things she doesn't understand, and it feels like we covered a couple of things in this episode. Looks like Roman numerals, green screens and being judgmental. Nothing you hear on the juicebox podcast should be considered advice medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan. If you are the caregiver of someone with type one diabetes, or have type one yourself, please go to T 1d exchange.org/juice, box and complete the survey. This should take you about 10 minutes, and will really help type one diabetes research. You can help right from your house at T 1d exchange.org/juice, box. Don't forget to save 40% off of your entire order at cozy earth.com All you have to do is use the offer code juicebox at checkout. That's juicebox at checkout to save 40% at cozy earth.com when you place your first order for AG, one, with my link, you'll get five free travel packs and a free year supply of vitamin D drink. AG, one.com/juicebox dot com slash juicebox.

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Unknown Speaker 2:19
Not gonna believe it, but I don't know.

Scott Benner 2:24
All right, I don't understand. Wait, you're

Arden Benner 2:26
not gonna believe this. Police allegedly discovered mushrooms and marijuana on 1000 pound sisters Amy slattin After she was bitten by camel.

Scott Benner 2:37
Is she from like, one of those TV shows? Yeah. Like the, like, the 1000 pounds, my 1000 pound wife, yeah,

Arden Benner 2:48
her and her sister are, like, super famous, I

Scott Benner 2:51
think, okay, Amy and Tammy. Yeah, that's their names. Okay, hold on a second. I've never seen it. What is this about a camel? She got to buy a camel, apparently, and

Unknown Speaker 3:06
she also has mushrooms and marijuana.

Scott Benner 3:07
So if I google my 1000 pound life camel, oh, here it is. Okay. Why 1000 pound sister star Amy Slayton was arrested at the zoo, according to a Facebook post made by a Crockett County Sheriff's Department on Monday, police responded to an unusual incident at the Tennessee safari park in Alamo, where a camel reportedly bit someone in slaton's party. However, when deputies arrived at the scene, they were met with strong, suspicious odors coming from her vehicle, prompting a further investigation. Her companion Brian and she were subsequently arrested after police found illegal substances in the vehicle, charging them with illegal possession of a schedule one, illegal possession of a schedule, oh, I'm not good at um, Roman numerals. What's VI is that six or five four minus one or five plus? Is it five? Do you know Roman numerals? When we start the episode, I don't understand Roman numerals. Okay, that's what we're doing. Hold on a second, um. Do you understand Roman numerals? No, which

Arden Benner 4:16
is why we shouldn't do it,

Scott Benner 4:18
because neither of us understand it.

Unknown Speaker 4:20
Hold on. If you don't know,

Scott Benner 4:23
I don't understand Roman numerals, let's see if it can get explained to me, Roman numerals are numeral. Uh, numeral, numer. Wait, numerals are numeral. Why would it say? Says Roman numerals are a numeral system used in ancient Rome. They are still used today in various contexts. Okay, so an i is one, a V is five, an X is 10, L is 50, C, 6100, D, but isn't v1 Oh, that's six. I. I guess it's five plus one. Oh, that's so stupid. And IV is five minus one, but that doesn't make sense. I mean, it does, but no, it doesn't right, like if v, if V, what if V, I is V, is five, I is one. Then I understand the five plus one because it's in order VI, but if you go IV, it's still five in the why? Why isn't it? I don't why would they do this? Uh, C is 100 D is 500 m is 1000 so if I said so, if x is 10 and I is one, what is x x, I x, I didn't hear anything. You just said, if x is 10 and I is one, what is x x i x, 31 Yeah, you would think so, because VI is six, but x, x, i, x is 10 plus 10 plus 10 minus one, so it's 29 is it possible that Rome fell because of their stupid counting system? Let's see what chat GPT says about that. Oh, it says it's a funny thought, but the fall of the room was because of their wasn't because their counting system, political instability, economic decline, military changes, challenges, social and cultural changes, huh? That sounds like everything else, doesn't it, power struggles and corruption in politics, heavy taxation, reliance on slave labor and inflation as far as economics go, repeated invasions by barbarian tribes like the Visigoths and the vandals. Oh, vandals. I guess that's where that comes from, internal conflicts and the Emperors over extension, the Empires over extension, erosion of Roman values, population decline due to plagues and the division of the empire into eastern and western halves, huh? Is that where we get the word vandal from let's do a little entomology on the word vandal. Oh, I was right.

Unknown Speaker 7:27
I don't know what we're talking about. I

Scott Benner 7:29
don't either we were talking about, I haven't talked my daughter is 20 years old. I can't even believe it. She was diagnosed with type one diabetes when she was two, and she put her first insulin pump on when she was four. That insulin pump was an OmniPod, and it's been an OmniPod every day since then. That's 16 straight years of wearing OmniPod. It's been a friend to us, and I believe it could be a friend to you, omnipod.com/juicebox whether you get the OmniPod dash, or the automation that's available with the OmniPod five, you are going to enjoy tubeless insulin pumping. You're going to be able to jump into a shower or a pool or a bathtub without taking off your pump. That's right, you will not have to disconnect to bathe with an OmniPod. You also won't have to disconnect to play a sport or to do anything where a regular tube pump has to come off. Arden has been wearing an OmniPod for 16 years. She knows other people that wear different pumps, and she has never once asked the question, should I be trying a different pump? Never once omnipod.com/juicebox get a pump that you'll be happy with forever. Oh, why don't you talk? What do you want to go over today in our episode? We have our whole

Unknown Speaker 8:46
list. Is not this is not grabbing me. All

Scott Benner 8:49
right, you look a little low energy, so I gotta get something that's gonna light you up. I'm

Unknown Speaker 8:53
so tired.

Scott Benner 8:55
Are you tired because you didn't sleep?

Unknown Speaker 8:58
I didn't sleep that much. I was doing homework last night.

Scott Benner 9:01
Is that because you spent all afternoon not doing homework when you were supposed to do it, then you had to stay up late to do it.

Arden Benner 9:07
I mean, like, kind of but not really. I was doing other things I had to do so you

Scott Benner 9:11
were not procrastinating. No,

Arden Benner 9:13
also, I, like, this is irrelevant. Just continue.

Scott Benner 9:17
I'm gonna put procrastination on our list of things I don't understand. But can I understand it completely? I don't know if you do. Maybe there's, like, a psychological reason, like, uh,

Arden Benner 9:27
it was actually what we talked about my first day of Psych class. So I understand it. You understood.

Scott Benner 9:31
Okay, we'll save it for another time. Let's do something you can get excited about today. Do we want to talk about where weight goes when you lose weight. Do we want to talk about gaslighting black holes, or why there are no more staple foods? All right, so pick one. We'll do one episode, and we're out how weed vaporizing works. Who decided when the. First Monday would happen? How did we get to the two party political system? Can dogs love

Arden Benner 10:12
all I can think about is How to Get Away with Murder, because that's what I've been watching.

Scott Benner 10:16
You don't understand how people get away with murder? Let's I'm no,

Arden Benner 10:20
I'm literally just saying, all I can think about is the show. Do you have

Scott Benner 10:25
a green screen behind you? No, wait, then how does your cup just Oh, because the green screen is, like, turned on in the settings. Oh, and I have a green cup, so it disappeared in my hand. That's weird, isn't it? How do green screens work? Like, seriously, I'm holding a green cup, and you can see the shape and the the silver rim, but the rest of it just looks invisible. That's, yeah, wait, I have this thing that everything's written on in green. Can you see the words? You can.

Arden Benner 11:01
I mean, they're like, a little green screen,

Scott Benner 11:04
a little dicey. How does a green How about the cap of this pen?

Unknown Speaker 11:07
Yeah,

Scott Benner 11:08
but like, your plants aren't in the background, yeah, I don't understand. Can we do you want to find out how a green screen works, since we're talking about it, how do you imagine it works?

Arden Benner 11:19
I imagine they just input into the system to identify that certain shade of green, and then the

Scott Benner 11:27
system. What's

Unknown Speaker 11:31
I don't know the system,

Scott Benner 11:32
the matrix. I

Arden Benner 11:35
don't know my I'm in that intro to computer programming class right now, and if there's one thing I know, it's I will never have a career in this because I cannot even figure out how to open the lab.

Scott Benner 11:48
So what is it a programming class?

Arden Benner 11:51
I mean, I guess, but I don't know, because I can't figure it out at all. There is nothing about it that I like what I don't even understand how to open the project that we're doing. What's the

Scott Benner 12:03
class called Intro to Computer Programming. Intro to Computer programming. So it's about computer languages. So then they give you a module or something that you need to do the work for. And you can't get that. Don't ask me, Is it? What language? It's a Java, Java, okay, how would I open JavaScript? No, no.

Arden Benner 12:26
I don't want to do this right now, because I have to think about it later. So don't even okay. It's literally been on my mind the whole week. I've asked four people who know how to use Java, and they also cannot help me. It's insane. You

Scott Benner 12:38
got to do a screen share with them so they can, just because they could probably just click, click right through it, I did. All right, listen, let's go back to green screening. All right, there are, let's see. First of all, you want to know why it's a green screen and not like, why is it not a blue screen or a red screen or a black screen?

Unknown Speaker 12:59
Are you asking me to guess? Yeah,

Scott Benner 13:03
because it's

Arden Benner 13:05
a color that's most infrequently worn by people so they can use it more often.

Scott Benner 13:11
Green is used because digital cameras are more sensitive to green, allowing for a cleaner removal with less noise. It also stands out better against most subjects as green is not a common clothing or skin color. Pardon? You got some of that one that's exciting. I can I be honest with you when you made that answer, I thought, what an idiot. There's no way that's right. All right, sorry about that. Blue screens are used sometimes, particularly when the subject is wearing green, or if there's a lot of green in the scene, like filming in a forest, for example. So blue and green seems to be how it goes the process a green screen works by using a technique called chroma keying, which allows video producers. She already heard of that before. You know what this is, I think. So it allows video producers to remove a specific color, usually green or blue, from a video or image, and replace it with another background or scene. Here's how it works, huh? Well, I think we know how it works, right? You stand in front of a screen and then, like I've used to use it in Photoshop, because if you take a picture in front of a green screen, you can just do the select, all the green, cut it out, then clean up the edge, and boom, you have it. But I guess it's doing that digitally. Now for video, also, I know that lighting is really important, because I do have a green screen, and when I put it up behind me, if I don't bottom light the screen, I get a green glow around me sometimes, which is not healthy looking. What? Not healthy looking? Yeah, I look like, it looks weird. Like my hair looks like, like in between my hair follicles looks green. If I'm not well lit, didn't you didn't use the right word, yeah, I apologize. Proper lighting is crucial to ensure that the green screen is evenly lit with no shadows or variations color. This makes it easier for the software to identify and remove the green color. All right, the color is keyed out, meaning it's made transparent. Okay? So during post production, video editing, software analyzes the footage, identifies the green screen, the green color in the background, it's keyed out, which means that it's made transparent, effectively removing it from the image. The software then replaces the green areas with the new background, which could be anything from a different location to an entirely computer generated screen. Huh? There are limitations to it, etc. But you said, what? Again, the system does it. That's what I just said, Yes. Do you ever worry that you don't understand how anything works? Yeah,

Arden Benner 15:45
and then I look at people who are complete idiots, and they understand a lot less than I do, and I think I'm completely fine.

Scott Benner 15:51
So I don't know how a green screen works, but this person doesn't understand what anything so. So I'm so you're not trying to be the best. You're just trying to beat the ones you can beat easily, not trying to beat anyone. I'm just feeling comfortable with it,

Arden Benner 16:09
all right. And there are some things that I am better at than other people. Oh, for certain

Scott Benner 16:14
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Arden Benner 17:19
No, I don't know what they are, but there's some stuff. Do

Scott Benner 17:24
you ever have that feeling when, like, you do something like, Oh, I'm really good at this.

Arden Benner 17:28
Sometimes when I talk to people, I'm just, like, thinking. I'm like, Oh, I can. I don't know if they can think.

Scott Benner 17:35
What tells you that about them, like, what makes you question somebody's brainpower, like, thinking ability,

Arden Benner 17:41
everything you know what quote I most definitely agree with, I disagree with. Don't judge a book by its cover because I, in fact, judge a book by its cover

Scott Benner 17:49
constantly. How often are you right?

Arden Benner 17:52
I like, I like, not like 70% of the time, but like i i always judge a book by its cover. How do I how do I phrase this? None of this makes me sound good.

Scott Benner 18:08
Oh, cancel me. I'll say something that doesn't make me sound good, if you want but finish your thought first.

Arden Benner 18:15
I don't even know how I can finish my thought, but

Scott Benner 18:17
like, how about you just now i You're gonna make fun of me here. I reject the idea that seeing people and assessing them means you're being judgmental.

Arden Benner 18:33
I don't think that means you're being judgmental, but you are judgmental, but I don't think I am. There's a certain way that you can go about seeing someone and like analyzing them and not being judgey, but you do not have that like you will be judgmental every single time. Okay,

Scott Benner 18:53
hold on a second. If you make a snap judgment based on someone's appearance, background or other superficial characteristics, it can be unfair and judgmental. Do I do that snap decisions based on their appearance, background or other super superficial characteristics? You see me doing that

Arden Benner 19:10
every single time, okay, all right, but

Scott Benner 19:14
is it not important what you do with it? Then what do I mean? If I look up and I see something happening, I make an assessment about it. I think because I'm trying to protect myself or understand my surroundings or whatever, it's not like I would look at someone make a judgment and then walk up to them and go, Hello, I've judged you as this. I just wanted to let you know, and if I had to deal with that person in a real life situation for whatever reason, and I don't mean deal in like a pejorative way. I just meant if I had an interaction with them, I would not treat them poorly based on my assessment, that I know for sure. So am I judging them? Yeah,

Arden Benner 19:53
I'm not saying that you would treat them poorly, but you definitely treat them differently than other people. You

Scott Benner 19:58
think 100% I don't feel like that. I feel like maybe we talk like that privately, special.

Arden Benner 20:03
You're not special. That's everyone is like that. I'm like that. Everyone who's listening to this is like that. They will treat someone differently, and they don't even mean to do it. It's just how our brains work.

Scott Benner 20:14
Okay, this is the point I'm trying to get to. So it also says when it's unkind or dismissive, assessing people becomes judgmental when it turns into criticism, mockery or disdain. I don't disdain. I don't have this criticism to who though to them?

Arden Benner 20:28
Yeah, Dad, you're judgmental. You think everyone is? Yeah, everyone's a little judgmental.

Scott Benner 20:33
Because I was talking to somebody about this the other day, and they said, I think it's just a human condition, like, I don't think it's I don't think it's necessarily bad. I just think it's, oh, here it is. Is everyone judgmental? Yes, to some extent, everyone is judgmental because it's a natural part of being human.

Arden Benner 20:49
All right, stop using chat GTP, and use your brain for a second. How about that? Okay, try that out.

Scott Benner 20:54
Well, I think that. I mean, I guess that's what I think, what I said at the beginning, which is, like, you assess everything that's going on, and you have to slot it into where it fits, commiserate to your past experiences, right? So I don't know

Arden Benner 21:10
what you're saying right now. What I'm saying is that you're judgmental. I'm judgmental. Everyone is judgmental, but you are more so judgmental than other people. You are more critical, more this, more that.

Scott Benner 21:23
Have you ever seen me say something to a person? No, right? Yes, people we know or like strangers, no strangers. I've approached a stranger and been judgmental to them when all the

Arden Benner 21:38
time you're not your internet personality. Wait, no, no, I

Scott Benner 21:40
don't even understand what you're saying. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I feel like you've made this up. So please, crazy, give me a time when I've approached a

Arden Benner 21:49
I don't think you want me to give a time. You

Scott Benner 21:54
actually can think of one. I can think of a handful. Give me just like a smattering around the edges so I can hear it and think of like, what it is. No,

Unknown Speaker 22:03
I'm not gonna say that on here, really. Yeah. Okay.

Scott Benner 22:08
So for my dollar, for my money, I think you're right. I think that everybody makes assessments right, and you are judging things, meaning that you assess something and then you slot it into your experiences. So I don't like something like, how green is something right? Like, it doesn't even have to be a person like, oh, that's the greenest thing I've ever seen. It's lighter, like, I've seen greener than that. You are making a judgment every time you see something that I understand. So if you do that about another person, if you look at somebody, go, Oh, you look dirty. Let's just say that, right? Like, you just look like you have not had a shower in a while. That assessment comes from how clean I've seen people and how dirty I've seen people in life. You're a dirty person. You look dirty. I see you five days in a row. You're always dirty. Okay,

Arden Benner 22:53
to me, to me being judgmental is if you said to that person, oh, you're dirty, and then after that, you treat that person differently because you just you think that they're dirty.

Scott Benner 23:08
I reject again that I would ever say to that person, stop saying.

Unknown Speaker 23:12
I reject, not in court. I

Scott Benner 23:13
reject your assertion that I would ever say, Oh, you look dirty, that I would go up to a person I didn't know and say, Oh, my God, you look dirty? I wouldn't do that. You've said that to me

Arden Benner 23:23
before.

Scott Benner 23:24
I know you. I'm trying to help you. This is ridiculous. Okay, no, I think this is about I think I think people hear this and I agree. Go ahead.

Arden Benner 23:33
You are not judgmental. You're the least judgy person. I don't think I'm

Scott Benner 23:36
the least judgy person of anybody. I do. I listen. I will say this. I pay attention to everything around me, and it's to a degree that I don't even understand.

Arden Benner 23:45
I actually have a theory that I pay more attention than you do.

Scott Benner 23:49
Oh yeah, go ahead.

Arden Benner 23:50
I'm like, I think in our family, I'm the most observant person.

Scott Benner 23:54
Are you the most judgmental?

Arden Benner 23:55
I'm up there. But I don't think I am. I think you are. It's not mom. Mom is only judgmental to certain groups of people. She's mean when she's judgmental too. Yeah, she's she's a mean, judgmental person. Cole's not even judgmental. He's just

Scott Benner 24:13
Cole's assessing everything constantly, but like so here's an example. When you and I drive down the street together, like a highway. Would you say that you as many people as you physically can? Do you look at their face when you're driving by them?

Arden Benner 24:29
I used to when I was younger, and I don't anymore. Don't

Scott Benner 24:32
anymore. I don't do it as much as I used to, but I used to like see every person that I drove. You do

Arden Benner 24:37
it. You do it all the time. Still, it's not conscious. You will lean over in your seat to see the person next to you, but Yeah, and look at that. No, I'm telling the truth. Okay, this is like, what? Like, what are we even fighting about here? Like,

Scott Benner 24:56
I'm just correct. I'm just trying to understand. Like, I don't understand. Like, okay. Okay, like, so use this as an example. We're driving. I don't know why I do it. We're driving, and I make icon like, I know I look at everybody because I want to assess, like, what's happening. No? Because you're competitive on the road, you think I feel like I'm beating them,

Arden Benner 25:19
yeah? You feel like you're beating every single person you pass on the road. I

Scott Benner 25:23
feel like I'm making a composite of like, when I see how a car's driving, I kind of look at how the car drives. Is it erratic? Is it fast? Is it whatever? Is it to one side? What kind of car is it? And then Who Do I See driving it, and then I feel like the next time I see a car doing that, I look to see if the person looks like the person I expect them to look like. Okay, well, back to chatgpt for a second. There are reasons why people make judgments, survival instincts, social navigation and decision making. We constantly assess and judge to make choices, from small ones like which movie to watch, to bigger ones, like who to befriend or trust. We often judge people's expressions, tones, behaviors, to understand their emotions and tensions, or if they're trustworthy. This helps us form relationships, cooperations and to build trust. And our ancestors needed to make quick judgments about their surroundings to survive. Is this person a threat? Is it safe to eat? And that instinct persists today. So what I'm hearing is, you are safer because you're with me, and I'm paying attention to a lot of stuff also, as you're trying to, like, put point this at me, you and I notice the same thing about everything we do. We have different

Arden Benner 26:40
reasons for looking what we do with that information is different. I'll

Scott Benner 26:44
do anything with the information. What do you think I'm doing? Like I'm making a list.

Unknown Speaker 26:47
I think you're judging.

Scott Benner 26:49
Well, what are you doing? Then, if I'm judging, what are you doing?

Arden Benner 26:53
I think I'm more So analyzing a person. So I'm, like, aware of my surroundings, and I know what's going on, but you also do that, but you, your main focus is like to judge a person.

Scott Benner 27:06
You are so full of shit right now, you don't even understand. So you think when you do it, it's for good, when I do it, it's for bad. I

Arden Benner 27:12
didn't say it was for good or for bad assets, for different reasons,

Scott Benner 27:15
but your reasons better than mine. If that's what you think, I don't think that. I think that's what you're saying. Well, if

Arden Benner 27:22
you don't think that, then it's not true. You don't have to agree with me. See, you're you're competitive right now I'm gonna crack my

Scott Benner 27:27
back. Could not hear it on the microphone. What a letdown. It says here that a judgment is a neutral or constructive assessment based on observation, evidence and experience. Being judgmental is negative bias or unfair evaluations often based on superficial factors, stereotypes and limited information. I gotta be honest. I think everyone's judgmental, and I think everyone doesn't think they're judgmental. Here's how you can make judgments without being judgmental. Stay open minded. I am open minded. Why would you laugh like that? I'm incredibly open minded. I seek understanding. I'm always asking questions. Check my biases, practice empathy. I am empathetic. Now, I asked it a new question. This is about you. Why would one person see themselves as less judgmental than others? And it has some opinions about you. I mean, the question, hold on a second.

Arden Benner 28:19
I think it's it's so telling that you can't come up with these answers using your own brain. That's what I think. And I'm judging you. Some people have a self perception how i i openly say it.

Scott Benner 28:34
Some people have a self perception bias, which is a thing that happens more with younger people than older people too.

Unknown Speaker 28:42
If anyone has that, it's

Scott Benner 28:43
you. I think we all have that. I wouldn't say I don't have that,

Arden Benner 28:47
but you have it to the highest degree. Can we get? Can we phone mom?

Scott Benner 28:52
No, that lady should not be allowed to talk about that. She's you know? Why? Because she's gonna agree with me. Very judgmental.

Unknown Speaker 29:00
Miss Cole home. No,

Scott Benner 29:03
I don't. I'm not. I only have two microphones, so, uh, so he so he's in his room, is what I'm hearing. So there's a self serving bias, there's personal values and beliefs. If someone strongly values fairness, compassion or not, non judgment, they may actively strive to avoid being judgmental. I don't avoid being judgmental. I don't think you definitely don't avoid it. So this is the also, by the way, social comparisons, cognitive blind spots, different definitions of being judgmental, experience and empathy, mindfulness and self reflection. This is where I think most people differ on this. I'm being serious now, different definitions of being judgmental. I'm gonna tell you that I 1,000,000% genuinely do not think I'm judgmental in the way that it's meant when you say you're judgmental. Yes, I look at people, events, situations, everything, and I'm constantly slotting it in my mind based on what I've seen before. And. I do make a lot of decisions based on that, but I do not and would not hold somebody back, treat somebody poorly, say something to someone's face based on any of that stuff. You know what? You're definitely not self aware. Self aware so but I've had this conversation recently in a group of people, and I have to tell you that, generally speaking, in that conversation, men, what

Unknown Speaker 30:27
were you in a research I do,

Scott Benner 30:29
I do research. I get in groups and I talk men, I find don't see this as judgmental. Women see it more as being judgmental. And what if that's because I'm in my heart not being judgmental, and in your heart you are being judgmental. So you put it on me. This isn't what Jesus meant to happen. What did Jesus mention? What do you think Jesus meant to happen? I've never met him, but he didn't. He didn't want us to talk about being judgmental. I

Arden Benner 31:00
just hear here's how we'll sum this up. You're wrong, and I'm you're like, not wrong about anything other than the fact that you are judgmental. And I openly say I'm judgmental,

Scott Benner 31:12
but I'm saying I think everyone is like, I think everyone's doing what you're describing you.

Arden Benner 31:16
You are the type of person to see someone, and as soon as you judge them, the words come

Scott Benner 31:21
out of your mouth. I'm just doing a podcast out loud for just the people who are around me. No, that's not true. No, I believe it is. And I think this is where the difference lies in the interpretation I actually make a I have a list of things that I talk about with a therapist on the podcast, and I'm gonna add this to that list. Actually, hold on a second. Let me find my Erica list right now. Add a couple days of this to that list. Sometimes we do serious about them. Wait. You publish them online the list. No, your therapist

Unknown Speaker 31:51
sessions.

Scott Benner 31:53
It's not she's not my therapist. She's a therapist that comes on the show and you talk to her about what's wrong with you. No, we talk about big ideas, and I'm open during those conversations, much like I'm being with you right now.

Arden Benner 32:05
Well, you should go to her privately.

Scott Benner 32:06
I don't think she I don't think she can see me as a therapist and do my podcast with me. Is that true? I don't know. I can ask her, but probably not. I mean, she probably wouldn't want to. Also, I'd have to see her remotely. And I don't think she can see people from New Jersey for insurance reasons. This is not the point. The point is this. I think what this conversation comes down to is the definition of what being judge judged means. And if I'm talking about somebody in the privacy of my car and they cannot hear me, I am not making a judgment about them. A judgment completely disagree judgment happens when they become aware of it.

Arden Benner 32:43
I completely disagree with you. Okay,

Unknown Speaker 32:46
I respect that.

Scott Benner 32:47
I know that I'm on one side of the other of that argument. I think a lot of people would say that, yeah, I'm not being judgmental, and they don't even know what I'm saying. It's almost like, this is I really don't think anyone would wait. I almost like, I think I'm gonna get myself in trouble, but like, I think of that like it's the same way I think of online bullying. If no one sees you saying it, you're not being bullied. So if someone comes online, and trust me, this happens to me. So if someone comes online,

Arden Benner 33:13
there's a complete difference between bullying and being judgmental, because you are still bullying a person online, they have not been bullied. If they don't see what you said about them, right? You are still judging a person. They just don't know that they have been judged. So

Scott Benner 33:36
for what I'm telling you is, is that I think it's an assessment. It would become a judgment if I made them aware of it. That's my thought process on this. Okay? Arden, one. Scott, zero. It's an assessment. If you make it privately, or if you share it with like close family or something like that, I'm assessing the situation. I'm not being judgmental of them, unless I put it on them, and my intention is to change them, shame them, make them feel bad or make them feel judged. That's how I think of it. I'm being serious, like I know my heart, like I don't feel poorly towards people. I am not a person who runs around like, being like, Oh, what a scumbag. Or I can't believe they did that they should, you know, whatever, I don't have feelings like that about people, and I think that a lot of people I do, but I think a lot of people get into situations that have nothing like that aren't their fault, but it's still their situation, and to discuss it honestly isn't being judgmental. That's all. That's where I'm at on this one. Look at we started slow, but we finished well, it's excellent. Thank you. Are you having fun? Are you glad I bought you a nice microphone to take to college?

Arden Benner 34:51
No, I don't. This is just space taken. Yeah,

Scott Benner 34:55
you sound terrific, though. This is going to be great. Rob appreciates it when he's editing, for sure. Yeah, we know what I've been really into. Go ahead, we have time, planters, cocktail peanuts.

Unknown Speaker 35:13
Why have you been really into planters

Scott Benner 35:14
cocktail peanuts?

Arden Benner 35:17
I think it's just because they've been on my desk. So when I'm hungry and I don't want to get up. That's the only option I have.

Scott Benner 35:23
Other carbs and peanuts, there's not right, just fat. Is that fat joke? No, it's a question about if you could, you turn those around and tell me if there's a carb count in that, that's a joke. In 35

Unknown Speaker 35:37
pieces, there's five carbs.

Scott Benner 35:39
Oh my gosh. To me, that that means, no, yeah. Does that mean to me? I'm not bolusing for that. So let's move on to the next topic. Do you think it like, Is it touching your blood sugar that I literally don't care what else they're high in calories due to their fat content, portion control is key if you're trying to manage your weight. A typical serving size is about one ounce, and that is 28 grams. Did you know that their heart their heart healthy, niacin, magnesium, antioxidants, and regular consumption of peanuts has been associated with the reduced risk of heart disease,

Arden Benner 36:21
yeah. So that's why i That's why I take them.

Scott Benner 36:26
Are you sure? But so how did that happen? You're just like, have a hankering for a peanut one day, and then the next thing, you know, you just bought a big jug of them.

Arden Benner 36:34
No, I was just sitting here, you know, like when you're hungry, and you're like, I'm hungry, but I don't want to feel fat when I eat,

Scott Benner 36:40
so I picked them those up. Nice to get them at the target.

Unknown Speaker 36:45
Yeah, nice. Actually, they have a package

Scott Benner 36:48
in the mail waiting for me. Yes, you you ordered snacks through Amazon. Do you want to know what they are? They're popcorn, Indiana movie theater, butter. Oh, so good. I've been waiting for that Nissan top ramen bowl noodles. Yes, that's what's down there waiting for you right now. It looks like you're waiting on, oh, also you have arriving today, Nature Valley, s'mores, Chewy, dipped granola bars. That's good because

Arden Benner 37:17
my other granola bars are running out. I need them for my morning classes, so I leave before the dining halls open.

Scott Benner 37:23
Also, it looks like Keebler fudge stripe cookies minis have arrived. Oh, my

Unknown Speaker 37:29
God,

Scott Benner 37:33
you got on the fudge stripe bandwagon when we were on vacation. Oh, no, those were the other Keebler cookies. Yeah, but they don't sell them on Amazon. You can't get those. Which ones? What are they called? El fudge. El fudge. Can't get el fudge on Amazon. What a bummer.

Unknown Speaker 37:51
Don't worry, I checked, tried

Scott Benner 37:53
all the spellings, did you because I just found on Amazon right now. No, you didn't. I did el fudge while they're insanely overpriced, but they're here. If you buy them on Amazon, I'll be upset. They're like, it's a shakedown price. Maybe

Arden Benner 38:08
that's why I couldn't find them. Maybe the the internet was like, definitely don't this is

Scott Benner 38:13
a no. This is from the Keebler store. Two packages of El fudge, double stuffed sandwich cookies. So 12 to 12 ounce packages. How much? Guess $24.16, I would never I mean, isn't that like, I think $4

Arden Benner 38:33
I don't think so. Or, like, seven bucks, I

Scott Benner 38:35
think, Wait, what's happening? Are you sure? Here's one? El fudge originals, 15 ounce packages, six packages, six packages of them, $45 who's eating all those cookies? Me,

Unknown Speaker 38:54
why do you love the yellow percent? Me, why

Scott Benner 38:56
do you love the El fudge? So much. So good.

Unknown Speaker 39:00
It's so good.

Scott Benner 39:01
It has one review. It says yummy.

Unknown Speaker 39:05
Correct. That's all it needs.

Scott Benner 39:09
Oh my gosh. So how do you think this one? This is our first time ever recording

Unknown Speaker 39:13
remotely like this. I don't know. Do you hear my AC again?

Scott Benner 39:16
I don't you're a little far from the microphone, though you're killing me with that. Hello. Thank you. This was nice, man, I got to see you. I don't you should get to see you like this, well lit.

Unknown Speaker 39:26
I literally call you all the

Scott Benner 39:28
time, I know, but the FaceTime doesn't feel as clean as this does. I think you look like you're in a more stable image when you're sitting here. Are you alright? What's going on you uncomfortable? Is your is your lady time coming? No, but it won't come. It won't arrive. And I have shin splints. You've shin splints from walking around campus. Had

Arden Benner 39:51
it so bad. But I'm not like, I'm not on athletics, just like everyone gets them walking up these hills. You

Scott Benner 39:58
say that people are going to figure out. We are. No, they're not. If I get an email, it says, I know where your daughter is, because she said she had to walk up a hill. I'm going to be stunned, but it could happen. All right, well, I think this is good. So we have three of these recorded already. This is our fourth one. We're going to record every week. We are going to go through our list though. All right, our I don't understand list, oh yes, because we love our list, expansive foam, processed food. How stocks work. Are laughter and yawning contagious? You don't think we should do two party political system? The election's coming up.

Arden Benner 40:40
How to crickets? Anything I just said I was sleepy.

Scott Benner 40:43
Booming. Why? No, we got to get you when you're not sleeping. Is there a better time that we could get this set up when you wouldn't be asleeping? Being serious, we did it at three o'clock. Should we have done it at a different time? I don't know, but here's the thing, unrelated, I'm gonna

Arden Benner 40:58
get my eyebrows on when I come home this weekend. I'm so excited. I

Scott Benner 41:01
can't believe you're actually coming home just for a birthday party. Well, it's also

Arden Benner 41:05
the last time. This is what I was trying to tell you before you hung up on me. San on Friday night, Sanj will still be home, and then I'm gonna grab Nadia on the way home, and then Liv will be home, and it's the last time that all of us can see each other before Christmas. Okay.

Scott Benner 41:20
Well, that's a nice that's why. Yeah, so you come home, you got you guys can all see each other, and then, because

Arden Benner 41:24
the last time I saw Liv, or the last time all of us were together, was like a week before we left for vacation,

Scott Benner 41:34
yeah, okay, so you're gonna make the drive so everybody can can get together one more time. Yeah, nice. All right, I think we've done good here. Thank you very you very much. You feel good. Is there anything you want to finish with? Anything you need to add? Does anyone on here

Arden Benner 41:50
understand computer programming? If so, please contact me. I will give you my information. You're

Scott Benner 41:55
looking for someone who understands JavaScript. I'm looking

Arden Benner 42:00
for someone who wants to make a

Scott Benner 42:04
couple bucks a day doing your computer programming homework,

Arden Benner 42:07
yeah, it has absolutely nothing to do with what I want to do with my life, and I just, I need someone to get me out of this. Thank you. I

Scott Benner 42:14
still don't understand why you got put in it.

Unknown Speaker 42:15
I don't have to take a class like that. Apparently,

Scott Benner 42:18
I think you're gonna figure it out.

Arden Benner 42:19
I'm very confused, because it says that we have a recitation in a lab, but I'm only signed up for a recitation. So am I supposed to be signed

Scott Benner 42:29
up for another class? You should find out. So you might not. I won't be doing that. You won't be finding out. I tried to get your parking permit fixed today. I pinged the guy again, just so you know, all right. And he said a lot. He said, he said, Nope, not today. Said, Hi, Scott, I forwarded your message to my senior manager to see if this is possible. Please note, we're still extremely busy with arriving students, he'll reach out to you shortly. So fingers crossed, maybe it'll maybe they'll have a spot.

Arden Benner 43:05
I put up the funniest post today on my private story on Snapchat, but no one laughed about it. Do you want

Scott Benner 43:10
to tell people what you did when you tried to put up a private post and made it public?

Arden Benner 43:16
No, but today on Snapchat, I had an airhead, and the flavor that I picked out, it was, it's called White mystery. And I put it up, and I said my stripper name, and no one laughed at it.

Scott Benner 43:29
No one thought that was funny. Absolutely no one, oh, that's your friends, yeah, and they didn't comment. Maybe they're busy. They're not they're not busy. You so can I? I'm gonna tell I'm gonna tell your story. Arden, so you tried to send a private Tiktok? No,

Arden Benner 43:47
I didn't try to do private anything. I just never gotten a single view on anything I've ever posted online in my entire life. And all of a sudden, 98,200

Scott Benner 43:58
views so far. Yeah, Courtney,

Arden Benner 44:01
how about the do you see the comment I sent you today,

Scott Benner 44:04
yes, from the person who was hooked on Yeah, that was

Arden Benner 44:08
me. That was me just trying to eat breakfast. After a philosophy class, I

Scott Benner 44:14
opened my phone, and that's there you shared with that person, and they were sharing back with you, yeah?

Arden Benner 44:18
Just, I don't really know what they want me to do with that information, but I

Scott Benner 44:22
don't awesome. Arden's just like, it's hard to like, I'm older now and I'm a transfer student, so it's like, harder like, am I supposed to, like, be friendly with people who are much younger than me? And it just it blew up. Like, she's got like, 100,000 views on it. But what was the Can I read the message that you got from the person. Go right ahead. It says, Hold on. Picture the bear. There's a bear in our neighborhood. I'm 22 going back to school after abusing fentanyl and going to prison.

Arden Benner 44:58
No, she said something before that, too. To like, make

Scott Benner 45:00
me feel worse. Oh, so it's pretty hard to relate. Yeah, someone's like, okay, all right, artists just like, am I supposed to make friends with younger people? So it's pretty hard to relate. I'm

Arden Benner 45:14
Oh, I see everyone in the comments is absolutely sht all over me. I don't know what I've done to make them upset, but it is insanity. Do you think

Scott Benner 45:23
it's possible that 18 year olds feel that you're judging them? Apparently,

Arden Benner 45:27
also, I was in my psych class today, and it's mostly freshmen, and she said something like, So where were you guys? 2020, when covid happened? And you know what? They all went eighth grade. And I was like, Uh oh. What I looked at? Sitting next to me. I was like, You're in eighth grade. And she was like, yeah. I was like, oh my god,

Scott Benner 45:50
i By the way, I wish this person luck. Sounds like they've kicked the offense and all and and they're back out. Like, among the, among those of us who are not incarcerated, I think good for them. I think maybe they can, you know, make a difference for themselves this time. I don't know why they're telling a stranger on Tiktok, but yeah, well,

Arden Benner 46:08
they seem mad at me that I didn't have a fentanyl problem. So I was like, All right, it's interesting that you've taken care of it, but

Scott Benner 46:16
so this is interesting. We'll end on this. People speaking of judging. I do think people slot their experiences just like we've been talking about it, and you see it a lot in diabetes, people will say, like, I don't want to hear you complain about this, because I have that right. So ridiculous and stupid always like, my things worse than your thing. Also,

Arden Benner 46:37
I wasn't complaining at all. No, I

Scott Benner 46:40
didn't think you are. I was just like, oh, like, Is it weird as

Arden Benner 46:45
a, like, a adult, because your mindset is completely different when you're, like, newly 18 entering college, versus been in college for like, three years, yeah, no, I know. And I'm like, what these is? This is who I'm surrounded by. Like, is this odd? Like, what should I be doing? And everyone's like, I had a fentanyl problem. You'll be okay. And I'm like, Okay.

Scott Benner 47:06
Well, even when you see people do the like, you know, you think they're babies. You're a baby. I'm 24

Unknown Speaker 47:15
and I saw like, Oh my God, I don't care, but,

Scott Benner 47:17
but first of all, you weren't saying they were like, you weren't. You were just saying, like, we have differences now. But that's my point. Is that everybody comes in, makes an assessment, slots it in a line, and then decides, are you being like? They use how they feel to decide what you're saying. I

Arden Benner 47:32
love the people who are like. The fact that you have to ask this question shows your maturity level and your social skills, and I'm like, what

Scott Benner 47:41
I 100% have made

Arden Benner 47:43
friends with some of these people. I'm completely capable of doing it. I'm asking you, is this a little weird? Because it feels a

Scott Benner 47:50
little weird because they're so much younger, they feel a lot younger than you Yeah, they're

Arden Benner 47:54
like, you know, experiencing going to parties and this and that, and like, living on their own for the first time, and I'm just like, oh God, all right. I was talking to my friends, and I was like, guys, I don't think I can, like, go out past 8pm anymore, and every single one of them was like, I know, because the

Scott Benner 48:14
kids are crazy, the younger ones are crazy, and you feel old, or you just

Arden Benner 48:18
feel them being crazy. I just feel I'm just like, my like, I'm so tired by that point, I'm like, in the dining hall grabbing food and getting ready

Scott Benner 48:27
for bed, getting ready for bed, and they're like, 10 hours from now I'm gonna go out. Yeah, I'm like, Oh my God. All right, so here's what's gonna happen. We're gonna say goodbye, and then I have one more thing to ask you that's private that we don't want these people to hear. So hold on. You want to say goodbye? I don't

Arden Benner 48:46
understand the point of saying goodbye, if they'll see me again in the next episode.

Scott Benner 48:49
All right, then we won't say it.

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