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Scott Benner
Stephanie has type 1 diabetes and so many stories that should have gone the other way.
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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, and welcome to episode 936 of the Juicebox Podcast in a second, I'm gonna try something a little different
normally about now I jump in and say, Hey, on this episode of The Juicebox Podcast, I'll be speaking with Stephanie Scott type one and I give you the whole kind of rundown of it. Instead of doing that today, I'm going to play for you the recording I made after Stephanie and I got finished. It's there to remind me about what the podcast episodes about. I know that's weird, but I don't edit them in whole months after they're recorded. So sometimes I need a reminder. Stephanie is an adult with type one diabetes. She had a tough upbringing didn't pay much attention to her blood sugar's ended up losing her vision. In one eye, she lost a breast to a pierced nipple that got infected. And she's just a ton of fun tells great stories. We're going to call the episode. Ask Scott or 888 ask Scott or something like that. Anyway, that's what today's episode is about, I might start doing that more frequently. Well, I gotta tell you real quick 35% off your entire order at cozy earth.com use the offer code juice box at checkout. Free five travel packs and a year's supply of vitamin D with your first order of 81 from Athletic Greens athletic greens.com forward slash juice box, and I'm gonna run out of time but better health.com forward slash juice box save 10% off your first month of therapy. This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by the contour next gen blood glucose meter. It's a blood glucose meter kids. What do you need from it? You need to work well have a bright light and be super accurate. That's what you want. Right? Easy to hold easy to handle easy to use. Condor man concert next.com forward slash juicebox. No, no reason to keep looking. I found it for you. You know what this episode is also sponsored by touched by type one touched by type one.org. Go there, find out all about what they've got going on, including the big event coming up with me in September. Check them out. Touched by type one.org. If you ever wanted to listen to a guy, talk in person who you listen to talk in your ears. This is a great opportunity. We are recording. And you go ahead. Go ahead. Well, you're saying Stephanie was like cutting you off like you were getting ready to go. You're excited to start? Oh, okay. Okay, go ahead.
Stephanie 2:36
I'm Stephanie. I've had diabetes for 27 years. And I found your podcast about a year ago. And I'm pretty obsessed with the information and content that I've listened to so far.
Scott Benner 2:50
That's what we like to hear. Stephanie. Okay. Not the part about you having diabetes. Can you imagine?
Stephanie 2:56
I know. Right. I love hearing you have diabetes.
Scott Benner 2:59
Yeah, that part. I didn't enjoy it all. But that the fact that the podcast is helping you is cool. 27 years ago is this is gonna be easy. So it's 2022. So we just take 22 right off your 27. We're left with five then we subtract. We take 2000 and subtract five. And then you were diagnosed in 1995. Yeah. And at that time, you were how old? I was six, six. That makes you 31. And you're gone. Now I'm here. Oh, did you not answer me? Were you screw with me?
Stephanie 3:33
No, I was. I was sick. And I've had diabetes for 27 years. So I'm actually 34
Scott Benner 3:44
Oh, I said 25 and was 27. Alright, so my listening skills suck. But my math was very good. Yes, yeah. All right. Well, I'm going with that. See how I high side of it right away. I was like, Maybe I can't listen. But my mouth My mouth was still correct. If you go with the
Stephanie 4:03
like, Wait, I don't think I'm 21 I don't think I'm 31.
Scott Benner 4:07
So the long pause I thought was your bit I thought was a bad internet connection. Because in the beginning, you had one before we started and but what was really happening is you were like, am I 31? I'm 31 I don't think I should say, Did you did you? Were you thinking like, Should I say something or do I just let it go?
Stephanie 4:28
It's like, you know if he wants to make me 31 I'll be 31
Scott Benner 4:32
can't cheat life just because I'm bad. But listening. So alright, so you're you're trying to tell me you're 33
Stephanie 4:37
I'm 34 Yeah. 34 Okay, so
Scott Benner 4:39
you're 34 years old diabetes for quite some time. And are you married? Do you have children anything like that?
Stephanie 4:47
I am married and I have one son, he's seven.
Scott Benner 4:51
Okay. And he's seven. And I've had him tested through trial net. He doesn't have any Barker's. Well, that's exciting, because when you signed up to come on you were you hadn't done it yet. Right?
Stephanie 5:07
Right. I had the kit, and he didn't want me to do it. And he finally let me do it. And it was very dramatic and dramatic. And I should have taken him to a lab.
Scott Benner 5:18
Wait a minute. Dramatic and dramatic. How was it dramatic?
Stephanie 5:22
So, did have you ever done it at home?
Scott Benner 5:27
TrialNet Yeah. Oh, no. But I've done I've done a test to see what your blood type is. And that, that looked like a murder scene. By the time we were all Yes,
Stephanie 5:40
yes. So do that on a six year old because he just turned seven in July. So I had to fill like that full two with blood from his finger. I owed him ice cream, like every night for a week.
Scott Benner 5:54
Was he panicking? Or was he okay?
Stephanie 5:56
No, he was just like, why are you taking so much of my blood?
Scott Benner 6:01
Do you think? Do you think you were gonna leave him with enough maybe?
Stephanie 6:06
Because I've tested his blood sugar up until that point a bazillion times? Because you know, because I was like six when I was diagnosed. And so it was just like that little itty bitty bit of blood. And so that's what he thought he was getting. And then I'm like pumping blood from his finger. He's like, this is not okay.
Scott Benner 6:25
I've been lied to I've This is it? Well, good news. He doesn't have he doesn't have any of the markers for type one law.
Stephanie 6:32
Nope. He didn't have any. Oh, that's great.
Scott Benner 6:36
But you did when you were diagnosed at six, were there any other autoimmune issues in your family?
Stephanie 6:43
Not that I knew of. I have a very limited knowledge of my family's history. So I know my mom, and my siblings, and an aunt and a grandma. And that's about it. Though,
Scott Benner 7:01
okay. You just don't know. You don't know a lot of people in your life or you don't in your family.
Stephanie 7:06
So I never met my dad. He died of ALS about three years ago, apparently. So I don't know anybody from that side. And then my mom's dad died when she was seven. So I don't really know anybody from her dad's side. And she's got one sister that way that I know of on her from her mom's side. And then she has lupus but she was diagnosed after I was diagnosed with diabetes.
Scott Benner 7:36
I see. Your mom was diagnosed with lupus at a later age. Yes. Interesting. Okay, do you have any other autoimmune stuff?
Stephanie 7:45
I have celiac?
Scott Benner 7:47
Celiac? Right. I assume when you were first diagnosed, it was needles and
Stephanie 7:56
little NPH. And regular. Yeah.
Scott Benner 7:58
Did you even have a meter?
Stephanie 7:59
I did. It did have a meter. It was the big drop. Like, basically murder scene again, you know, to get the blood. It changed pretty quickly, though.
Scott Benner 8:13
You're right on the cusp. Around that time? Yeah.
Stephanie 8:16
Yeah, it changed from the like the paper almost like strips to the ones that like suck the blood up off your finger pretty quickly, if I remember correctly.
Scott Benner 8:27
Gotcha. Okay. How do you remember growing up a diabetes?
Stephanie 8:34
I did really well starting out. You know, food scales. The handy color coded book that they send you home with this many of each food group for each meal. You have to eat it.
Scott Benner 8:47
Are you doing the exchange diet? Yeah. Okay. Yep. So by by you were good at it. You were following the rules? Yeah. What was your mom helping you with that? I imagine we're six right? Yeah,
Stephanie 9:00
yeah. So they would help me with my food. And sometimes they would even have to like leave before I would leave for school and they dropped my insulin and everything for me before I leave.
Scott Benner 9:10
And like send you with a syringe that was already ready to go.
Stephanie 9:14
Like sit on the set on the table until I got up and gave myself my shot and ate what they had already made for me got on the bus. Oh,
Scott Benner 9:22
but they weren't home anymore. Like they would leave for
Stephanie 9:24
work just before I'd get on the bus sometimes and have to do that. I see. I see. Yeah, that's interesting. It didn't last for very long though.
Scott Benner 9:34
them getting up and making you breakfast didn't last very long. Yeah, like
Stephanie 9:37
carb counting came in and like, I got old enough to where they thought I could have control I guess.
Scott Benner 9:43
Oh, I see. Okay, I thought you were like they got bored of helping me and they're like, forget this.
Stephanie 9:48
Like now you've got this. Yeah, you're fine. It wasn't so much. I'm bored of doing this. Like I think you've got this. I know you're 10
Scott Benner 9:57
But you were and you were carb counting at 10 years old.
Stephanie 10:00
Yeah, I feel like it was it was pretty early on, they switched over to the carb counting. And then I went to chemo log from regular and NPH and they finally started letting me carb count. The pump came out early on, but it was a fight to get it. One endo would say, you know you have good enough control you don't need the pump and then another then you know my blood sugar's would go crazy because I'm like I'm getting that pump and then the next minute it would be like your blood sugar is out of control. You can't have the pump. And my mom moved. My mom and I moved a lot when I was younger as are like, all over the country. And my mom finally took a job working in a doctor's office. And she convinced her doctor to write me a prescription even though he was not my doctor for the pump and got me the pump.
Scott Benner 10:56
Wait, hold on a second. Why are you moving around the country so much?
Stephanie 11:01
Oh my gosh, I hope my mom doesn't listen to
Scott Benner 11:04
I listen. She's not gonna listen if you don't tell her how would she know how old your mom?
Stephanie 11:10
My mom, and I should know that.
Scott Benner 11:15
Oh, you were so sure about how old you are. But now look.
Stephanie 11:18
She was born in 69 I can tell you that. Oh
Scott Benner 11:21
7980 992 1009 2019 2021 to do your mom is weighed 53 Yes. Oh, wait a minute. It's definitely is your mom have you when she was 12?
Stephanie 11:37
No, she was 19. I'm 19 years older than her. Okay,
Scott Benner 11:40
by the way, anything under 25 is 12 That's all okay. Yeah, young I bet. Yes, very young. We
Stephanie 11:46
grew up together.
Scott Benner 11:47
Okay, so Okay, so your mom was 19 when she had you? And you were moving around because she was
Stephanie 11:54
she's a gypsy? No, not really. That's what I tell everybody and that's why she gets mad.
Scott Benner 11:58
Oh, well. Wait,
Stephanie 12:00
hold on. She just likes to move.
Scott Benner 12:01
Okay, but she's not she's not I don't or gypsies like uh, are they even
Stephanie 12:07
know she says like gypsies don't take baths so she doesn't like to me to tell people that she was a gypsy
Scott Benner 12:11
I don't know that that's true. First of all, I don't know if that's true either malign people for at first like like at first let's make sure we're right before we move on, I'm just what I was gonna say. No, I
Stephanie 12:21
don't know. But I always tell people that she's a gypsy because the Gypsy has moved around the country a lot and have really free lives and I think it's cool and she doesn't
Scott Benner 12:29
Alright, so first I'm gonna Google is gypsy a bad word?
Stephanie 12:33
All right. Let's see. We're gonna have to see if you have to edit this whole section.
Scott Benner 12:36
I know so far. You're the only one that said it. Honestly, I'm completely in the clear. Gypsy is commonly used to describe the Romania people are Oh MA and I but the term carries many negative connotations and as derivative carries even more like oh getting gypped is one meaning like the fraud or why being chipped hurts the Roma more than it hurts you. That's not what I meant. No, no, no, I know. We might have to take this out for your protection. I mean, if they're willing to relocate they're willing to come after you I would imagine. So I've I know it's a word I grew up with then I didn't think of it as like a slur but we either Yeah, well, you're from like you live in the middle of nowhere you don't know better one way or the other.
Stephanie 13:35
I guess it doesn't matter that I'm well cultured and lived in like 13 states in my life.
Scott Benner 13:39
Now you're dodging meth heads right now right?
Stephanie 13:43
Oh my gosh. Listen, I live in my I live in my shell. My husband is homeschool that i i only associate with the people that I choose do there are probably lots of methods that I choose not to met to associate with.
Scott Benner 14:01
Really interesting. Okay, well, listen, it's definitely look I'm not the end all be all of decision making. But I say spend a couple of minutes googling gypsy make sure you're comfortable with it. And for your next time your story. I just figured your mom was like an assassin or a stripper, but I wasn't sure which. No comment. Oh my god, your mom was a stripper. No, I'm not saying anything. Wait. Your mom used to kill people? Stephanie. Oh,
Stephanie 14:29
I'm almost never killed anyone. Oh,
Scott Benner 14:31
she's a stripper. I got it. Okay. There's nothing wrong with that, by the way. No, no. How do I get that? Are you at all impressed? Stephanie.
Stephanie 14:40
I'm actually very impressed. Yeah, I'm super good. Listen, she didn't move around the country because of that. She's actually very, very, very high up in like the professional world. Now. She just was like, yeah, she just like took about and decided to have some fun and then yeah,
Scott Benner 14:58
your mom's got better stories than You probably how many times do you left home alone overnight? Did this ever happen?
Stephanie 15:05
Listen, I'm the oldest of five. So I was the one left in charge.
Scott Benner 15:10
Oh, your mom had five kids? Yeah. Oh, oh, no kidding. And you're the oldest? Yep. Oh, so you like mom went to work? And then you stayed with the kids.
Stephanie 15:20
I help mom with the kids a lot. Yeah,
Scott Benner 15:23
no kidding. Oh, that's, that's an interesting way to do you find that they think of you as a parent.
Stephanie 15:29
Some of them yes.
Scott Benner 15:32
I've traveled with that with my brother sometimes. So
Stephanie 15:35
for for, you know, for the early years. They're like they're not mom kept telling me what to do. But now like later on, they're like still calling you for the same things that you would think you would call a mom for. But they call both of us. So it's like instead of calling mom and dad they call mom and sister
Scott Benner 15:52
right? Hey, what was your mom specially up top or down bottom? You know, I don't know. Like think of her did she was she big and round in one of those places.
Stephanie 16:04
My mom is well rounded.
Scott Benner 16:07
I'm gonna take that as up top and down bottom. All right, so very blessed. I think we should spend the rest of this hour me just trying to figure out things about your life because of what you've already told me in the first 12 minutes to see how much of it I still don't even get it all. Yeah. All right. Well tell me all right. Okay. So why did you want to come on the podcast?
Stephanie 16:34
Um, well, when I first started listening, I emailed you right away. I was like, oh, I need to be on this podcast, because these stories are great, but I have better ones. And then I kept listening. I was like, I don't know. Maybe not. Maybe I just want to get on and just talk because, God, it seems cool. And I have some cool stories.
Scott Benner 16:52
Well, listen, we don't have to judge your stories against the other ones. But if you're gonna dump me up, when I asked if your mom's a stripper, then the stories are not gonna be good. But that's a phrase, where do I where's that from? Dummy up? That's from all in the family. Is that from How old are you? There's no way you know, that reference? 34. I'm pretty sure. So all in the family was a television show. Yes. And I think I'm, I know, here it is. I'm right. That's insane. How do I remember that? So I think so. Carroll O'Connor was like the, he was he was the father of his family. Right. And he was very hard on his wife. Like, really like she was ditzy. And he called her DOM and stuff like that. Like, trust me. There's no way this TV show would would make it today. But I remember the phrase dummy up and it's from that. Wow, that's weird. Anyway, no one cares about that. But me but I was stunted that came out of my mouth just now. Anyway, okay, so you have stories. We're not going to judge your stories against other people's stories. You have to tell me the story. She can't get in the middle and leave out the fun parts. Like your mom. Like you don't I mean, like your mom was like chesty and had a big ass. Like don't like, tell us that part. That's the part we want to know. So okay, well, sorry, these diabetes stories.
Stephanie 18:21
Medical stories in general. Yeah.
Scott Benner 18:23
Give them to me. Let's do it. Well, Stephanie, are you nervous?
Stephanie 18:34
I don't know what you I don't even know where to start.
Scott Benner 18:37
Are you nervous, though? Let's get to that. No, you're not nervous. Okay. All right. So you're diagnosed with type one you are overseeing? Well, not at that point, unless your brothers and sisters are 6543216. So you've got any siblings that your diagnosis?
Stephanie 18:54
Oh, yeah. Okay, I have. I have a brother that's a year and a half younger than me, a brother that is four years younger than me. And then my sister was born the year that I was diagnosed. Wow.
Scott Benner 19:09
Okay, so there was already four of you around this time. So your mom has to figure out this diabetes thing. She harangue a doctor into giving her a prescription for a pump at some point, which is Yeah, fascinating. And no, right. Also, we're all wondering how your mom got the doctor to do it now. Yeah, she's definitely now you're thinking it too.
Stephanie 19:32
You know what, that was not okay.
Scott Benner 19:35
Put that thought in your head before we got going. I mean, if I was in a bad situation, Stephanie and I had to throw it to do so. Because, you know, if I, if I had to throw a handle to a guy to get a real pump, I probably would, you know, I'm just saying alright, so you got this
Stephanie 19:58
out that my mom wouldn't do for me, so I'm not I I'm not going to even put anything pastor.
Scott Benner 20:02
Listen, if I'm sure what she did was she asked, and the guy was like, Yeah, sure. And just no more. Like,
Stephanie 20:11
twice and she does not I can't even believe she worked in a doctor's office. So I was like already, like a sacrifice she made. As soon as she got that pump prescription. Like she quit.
Scott Benner 20:23
Oh, your mom's free spirit for sure. Yeah, even if 53 Is she still?
Stephanie 20:32
She just moved back finally from Texas for three years. Like she's still moving all over?
Scott Benner 20:39
Yeah. Does she ever on tick tock account? This is how we'll judge her. No, no, no. Tick tock. Are you afraid she's going to try it? No, she uses
Stephanie 20:47
indeed like social media.
Scott Benner 20:49
Oh, she's made a big shift. She's a completely different person now. No,
Stephanie 20:56
but she's still always been super professional. Even when she when she went and had her find out the strip club. She was still had like a full time day job. Professional.
Scott Benner 21:06
Okay. Okay. Yeah. Alright, so a professional. So how was it going? Because it's a different life growing up where you're kind of overseeing your brothers and sisters, because I had to do it. And I know it's not, it's not a great way to grow up for you. And it's a bit of a shame for them. But in some families, it's just, it's what you have to do. So. So you're growing up with that? Are you struggling for yourself? Or are you just doing mph and regular, like for so many years, that you're not paying very close attention, you're just doing the shots, the way you're supposed to eat the food the way you're supposed to.
Stephanie 21:38
I did that for a few years. And then I went to the sliding scales with the human log. I went to diabetes camp a couple of times. So I kind of stayed up for a little bit. Like with the newer stuff. I definitely disconnected from from anybody else with diabetes from a very long time. Basically, I was getting just my information from my endo when I went every three months. But I've always made my own adjustments and stuff. But, you know, for a long time, probably up until the last five years, I just thought, oh, seven. That's what I need for my agency. That's my goal.
Scott Benner 22:36
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Stephanie 25:41
Yeah, just keep it around a seven. And I was doing good. Because that's what we were told early on. And I didn't stay up to date with anything and doctors never say anything. If you're at a seven they don't say that's bad. You know?
Scott Benner 25:57
Yeah. Okay, so how long do you think that went on for? Give me a frame of time where you were just living like that? Seven ACA once. He was good. Nobody was questioning anything, etc. Like a number of years near life. Money 20 years. Okay.
Stephanie 26:20
But I mean, I didn't, there was there was a definite time in there where I didn't even care what my currency was. I I was out of control, probably from about 15 to 24.
Scott Benner 26:37
How so? I didn't
Stephanie 26:41
I didn't know what my blood sugar was. I just wouldn't ask for not like, oh, I will I'll go whole day without testing. Like, I'll go a whole year without testing. There was times I couldn't even tell you where a meter was.
Scott Benner 26:54
Were you using insulin?
Stephanie 26:56
Yeah, I wore my pump.
Scott Benner 27:01
So what did you do? You just the ran your to the pump ran your Basal rate. And then you just like swagged meals? Yeah. And you don't so you never knew where you were, but you still went and got a onesies done?
Stephanie 27:18
Well, endos won't write prescriptions unless you've been in their office and the last. Some of them are six months or 12 months.
Scott Benner 27:27
Okay, so you would go because you wanted to keep going. So you wanted the script. But you didn't want it enough to put more effort into it than the amount you're putting in? Or was this something were you? Were you consciously trying to avoid diabetes? Were you giving up like, what, what's the mindset there?
Stephanie 27:47
I don't know. I think it started really like, even before I got the pump, like I could figure out tricks to make my meter say what I wanted it to say. Like there were certain meters back then that if you lick the back of the test strip before you tested, you'd end up with a perfect number.
Scott Benner 28:08
Lick the back of the test strip, or you tested?
Stephanie 28:10
How do you ask me how I figured that out?
Scott Benner 28:13
Was it diabetes camp? Because that's where sometimes people say they learned, yeah, most of their bad stuff, because there were so many kids around and they could share that stuff with each other. Right? Interesting.
Stephanie 28:25
No diabetes camp, I probably had the best control while I was at diabetes camp every year or for like three years in a row that I went.
Scott Benner 28:32
So you had a sort of an opposite experience there. Was it good.
Stephanie 28:36
I feel like when my my parents gave me the control is when I lost the control. When that's when I lost the control of my diabetes was that when they put it in my hands,
Scott Benner 28:47
what was that? Tell me Tell me though, how that transition happened? Was it just like, Hey, Stephanie, we're gonna let you do this now. And then we never talked about it again. Was it like a thoughtful transfer? Or how did that happen? No, it
Stephanie 29:01
was like, I don't remember exactly when it happened. I just remember, it was on me. And then they were like threads like, Oh, if you don't start testing your blood sugar, we're gonna start giving your shots again, and I left the hospital like giving my own shots. So then it'd be like two weeks of me doing what I needed to do so that they didn't give me my shots. And then
Scott Benner 29:28
everybody forgot about it. And then it just Yeah, yeah. Okay. You know, I know. You mean people. Yeah, people are right. Yeah, exactly. Make sure yeah. Okay, that's it. I'm gonna
Stephanie 29:42
do this while you're thinking about it. And then as soon as you stop thinking about it, I'll go back to what I was doing before
Scott Benner 29:46
and they didn't check back in on you.
Stephanie 29:48
Right. It'd be like leading up to and then coming out of endo appointments basically would when they would come down on me.
Scott Benner 29:57
So when they were gonna get pressure, they pressured you
Stephanie 30:00
Exactly. Walking out of the endo with a 12, a one C and the doctors around them, so they're going to be on me.
Scott Benner 30:07
And then that's it, then we go our separate ways on the idea. Right? Okay. So you don't take care of yourself for years, like right at all? And do you look back now I see damage from that or what you're taking i have
Stephanie 30:22
i damage what? I'm completely blind in one eye. And then during pregnancy with my son, they were able to save one of my eyes. The retinas started to detach, but they were able to say but, and I have fairly good vision in that eye. But my peripherals are pretty crappy.
Scott Benner 30:43
Stephanie, during your pregnancy, you almost lost the vision, your second eye.
Stephanie 30:48
I didn't know that I was losing either vision. I didn't know I was losing vision at all. Okay, I went for my pregnancy, they make you go when you're pregnant to test your eyes, even when you don't have diabetes. So I went for that because I did everything right leading up to and during my pregnancy. And when I went the doctor comes in came in the room and he's like, I am referring you to a eye surgeon? He goes, if you don't go and have this done, you won't see your your son born.
Scott Benner 31:23
Wow. Well, that's serious. Yeah.
Stephanie 31:28
But to have eye surgery during while I was pregnant.
Scott Benner 31:32
was when that when you go into that surgery, is there a possibility? You're gonna come out of it? And it's not going to work?
Stephanie 31:40
They didn't make it sound like it. They sounded like one of my eyes. They sounded like there was nothing they could do for but the other one, they were fairly certain they could help me.
Scott Benner 31:50
Or is this is your vision, your only issue at the moment? Yeah. Okay. So secondly, so you Yeah, really? So 20 years? Do you think you went like that for 20? Solid years?
Stephanie 32:06
No. Believing that seven was a good agency for 20 years, I I was in good control. Until I was probably about 15. I even when they handed it to me, I tried until I was about 15. And then I kind of just didn't, from 15 to about 24. So about nine years probably.
Scott Benner 32:29
Can you tell me what pushes you away from trying? Is it? Is it just the demanding nature of it? Is it that you weren't having success is that you just didn't want to? Do you have any feelings for why?
Stephanie 32:43
Ah, I'm like thinking and looking back. I don't think like in the moment, I thought this but I feel like it was a one thing that was mine that I could like go home, I guess because I had to help with my siblings. I had to help put the house in the food. I had to get myself to school, I had to do all those things. And stupidly, I was like, Well, I don't have to do this. And I'm kind of sick of it anyways.
Scott Benner 33:11
Yeah, it feels like the one thing you can give away. Right? Right. It's bandwidth, then it's just right. You had too many responsibilities for your age your situation. Yeah. Okay. That's what I think it was. It's not gonna kill you right away. So it doesn't seem
Stephanie 33:29
Oh, yeah. Yeah. And my mom tried every, like, nursing homes, making me go to talk to the diabetics that lost therapy or lost their vision or, and their 80 or 90 and unlike Yeah, that's not going to help me.
Scott Benner 33:45
So, let me ask you a question. If I could have come and found 15 or 16 year old Stephanie. And I was like, Hey, Stephanie, I'm from the future. And, and somehow you can blame me because I had a ray gun with me and a spaceship. And you're like, alright, this guy might really be from the future. And I said, you are going to be blind in one of your eyes. If you don't stop this right now. Do you think that would have moved you?
Stephanie 34:10
Maybe, no, I don't know.
Scott Benner 34:12
Yeah. There's no way to know I guess. There's not you know, there are times Stephanie, that when I make this podcast, I think it's really about being a human being masked and what it's like to have diabetes,
Stephanie 34:25
right. Unfortunately, we just have very real and in your face consequences like I don't know, I guess everything in life is a real and in your face consequence.
Scott Benner 34:39
Yeah, but you can't something's you can't trace back. You don't I mean, like you can, it's easy for you to say, here's the problem I have with my vision. That's because of you know, what happened with my blood sugar when I was younger, boom, like I you know, right. You can see the line through it. But yeah, you know, when you I don't know when you're when you're 60 years old, and you're in the emergency Room? Because I don't know, you don't I mean, like if diverticulitis you don't think oh, well this is because how my parents taught me to eat when I was 10. You don't I mean, right, but it might be. And yeah, we just don't we're not able to see the lines between all the other stuff sometimes.
Stephanie 35:18
I'll say I'm a lot healthier than almost anybody else because of my diabetes, though.
Scott Benner 35:23
Because you find my time. When did when did the switch flip for you? Like, when did you go, I can't keep doing this.
Stephanie 35:35
24 I was 24. And I had just gotten out of a bad relationship and move back with my mom. And realize that, you know, our, yeah, 24 hours, almost a quarter of a century old and I couldn't even take care of myself. And some people have, you know, like my mom had, I was five at that point in my mom's life. me she had my brother and my third, my second brother. I couldn't even take care of myself. It seemed like,
Scott Benner 36:09
what? So what does that mean? When you're, when you're 24? You have to figure your budget. Are you okay? All right. Okay, well, you're 24 years old, and you you look up one day, and you go, Oh, my God, I have no agency over my life whatsoever. I'm not making decisions, things aren't happening. I'm not moving in a meaningful direction. My health is poor. Like all that stuff. How do you? What do you say,
Stephanie 36:32
you know, it's crazy. That was like, I knew how to do it. Like, it's not like I had to, like, go back through diabetes training, or, like, do a ton of research or try to figure it out. Like, I was like, Oh, I'm gonna start taking care of myself and went to the gym, a, you know, healthier foods, and adjusted my own pump, and got my own self under control. Because like, that was like the crappiest part about it. Like I knew what I was supposed to be doing the whole time. Like, I stayed up to date with the knowledge and everything that I needed to do. And just wasn't doing it.
Scott Benner 37:15
Yeah. Yeah, I guess then the, the reality hits, and then the frustration comes, right. The idea of like, oh, yeah, why didn't I just do this before?
Stephanie 37:27
Yeah. It's actually so much easier. Yeah,
Scott Benner 37:31
I know. I keep saying that. But I don't think people listen, it's okay. I'm doing my, I mean, even in real life, it's, you know, how I don't know how often you can say to somebody, look, a couple of minutes worth of effort here saves hours of pain later. And they're just like, Yeah, okay, and then they don't do it. So it's everybody. It's not just me or
Stephanie 37:54
No, I have a really good friend, and she has a 21 year old son, that's diabetic. He was diagnosed when he was like, 14. And she wouldn't get him a pump early on. And now he's over the age of 18. And I'm like, I wish you would have got a pump. I wish you would have federal pump when he was 14, because now he's struggling with like, he's doing the same things. I was doing it 19 But with no pump.
Scott Benner 38:23
Yeah. Does it make you feel like this is gonna happen to him, too.
Stephanie 38:27
I'm like, can't convince them. And she finally convinced them to get like a CGM.
Scott Benner 38:33
Good. That's good. Yeah. So 10 years ago, you go home, you realize that your mom was raising 16 kids when she was your age. You're like, Mom, I can't remember the Bolus for my meal. And she's like, shut up. But so you pull it together at that point, you go you work out, you pull it together, and is it just a different trajectory? Right from there.
Stephanie 39:01
Then so then I was still under the impression that you know, seven was a good one, see? So I got it down easily to the 6.9. That had been raised range. And I had met my now husband, and a funny story. He didn't want to get married because his life skills class in college told him that a typical wedding costs like, I don't know, like 15,000 or $20,000. I can't remember how much he told me. I just remember laughing and saying, Okay. I'm like, okay, that's fine. But having a kid was okay. Was the funny part. And I was like, oh, because this kid is definitely not going to cost us that much in the first year.
Scott Benner 39:57
Once you become an adult, you have to be understand Think of the idea that if you're going to live in a modern society, money is going to come in one window and go right out. The next one
Stephanie 40:07
is gonna get spent on something. Yeah, yeah, it's,
Scott Benner 40:11
that's the only thing that's gonna happen. That's the only thing I can tell you for sure is I'm going to make money. And I'm going to, I'm going to spend it. And that's it. Like, sometimes I'll, I'll get a check for something. And my kids will be like, Oh, what are you going to do that? I'm like, I'm gonna put in the bank and then send it to somebody, like, What are you talking about? What am I gonna do with it? What do you think? What do you what do you think happens? Oh, money? Wow. Because that was because of the way my job works. I get, I only get paid like twice a year. So I get money for ads. And like, every six months, basically. Yeah, so the checks are larger than you're used to seeing, but they're also for six months. Right? And the kids are just like, what are you gonna do with that? I was like, I'm gonna pay for your college. I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep the lights on in the house. Like, what do you think is happening right now, I like that your husband was like, if we can just say although I have to admit. My sister in law, when she got married. She was like the youngest of my wife side. And my I remember my father in law saying, If you skip this wedding, I'll give you this amount of money you can put into a house. And she was like, That's ridiculous. I want a wedding, blah, blah. And I remember years later her saying I should have took that money. And skip the big wedding. So everyone's had a point. But I don't know. Money's hard to pile up. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. So Alright, so now you're, you're married? Did you actually get married? Just do it on the cheap or did you?
Stephanie 41:38
Oh, we. We got pregnant. So I've
Scott Benner 41:43
been pregnant. Do I get pregnant? Yeah, it was fine.
Stephanie 41:48
No. We I am missing a fallopian tube. I had a grapefruit sized tumor removed within it. It took a Flowbee into with it. And so I thought, Oh, we're probably going to take a while to get pregnant. Who knows? There might be fertility issues, all this. And so we start saving. We're gonna move. We lived in Memphis, Tennessee at the time, it was like, we're gonna move to the coast. We'll start we'll start trying to have a kid. And
Scott Benner 42:24
we got pregnant right away two seconds.
Stephanie 42:27
But yeah, yeah, like we just thought about it. And then they're like, Oh, you want a baby. Okay.
Scott Benner 42:33
You did that wrong. You're supposed to make that last that part's supposed to last a little. But wait a minute. You just You just skipped over. I had a tumor. So what are what are you whatever you're banging stop. That's definitely make me. As soon as you started talking about cancer, you started banging something. Oh, did you know that?
Stephanie 42:57
It wasn't cancerous. Thank goodness, oh, it was a tumor that wasn't cancer. So when I was 21. We went out on the lake. And like, I got super dehydrated, I stuck my pump. And the glovebox on the boat when I was like tubing, and then put it back on and then went home and went to bed. And that insulin likely was dead. So I woke up with like really high blood sugars. And I was vomiting and I tried to get it down and couldn't get it down, which is unusual. I normally could get it down myself. So I went to the hospital. I was DKA hooked up to pump to all the IVs and everything to get that taken care of. But when the doctor came in to check on me, they like pressed on my stomach when we're like doing exam, and I like came out of the bed. And the doctor sent me for ultrasound and oh my gosh, 21 is crazy. Does that mean for an ultrasound and they're like, Oh, you have a tumor on what they thought it was on my ovary or near my ovary? You're gonna have to have surgery to have that removed. I said I have a flight that's leaving in four days. Can we schedule that for after? And the doctors like I I'd like to do it. But I guess like, I mean, I don't really it's your choice. It's like, yeah, we'll schedule that for after
Scott Benner 44:43
Where were you going?
Stephanie 44:46
Myrtle Beach
Scott Benner 44:47
for vacation? Yeah. Stephanie.
Stephanie 44:51
For the fourth of July. Definitely
Scott Benner 44:52
you make decisions like a girl that raised herself. What do you think of that?
Stephanie 45:00
So I went on my vacation and came back and they thought it was like the size of an egg. And they like, bring me all this paperwork before surgery, they're like, I just need you to sign that. If we're in there, and we need to take everything that we can. I was like, No, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna sign that.
Scott Benner 45:20
Would they want to take?
Stephanie 45:21
Like, if they needed to, like, take my ovaries or my uterus or anything, they wanted me to sign that they could thing that they could. So you said no. Like, no, you can wake me up and let me know what's happening. So I have time to process. Okay, like, that would be two surgeries. It was like, I don't care. I'm 21. You can't just take all my woman parts.
Scott Benner 45:40
Yeah, pick all my lady bits and everything. My mom's
Stephanie 45:43
like, what, like, what are you going to do? And I was like, I don't know. We'll figure it out. Because I had like, in my blood, I had like, some tumor markers. Like that would show an indicate that maybe it was cancerous. Okay. Hello, like, well, I want time to process. Like your wild.
Scott Benner 46:09
Like, listen, you go shake your ass. I'll do this. All right, just calm down. So, so they get in there. And thankfully, they didn't need to take a lot,
Stephanie 46:18
right? Yeah, they took they did take my fallopian two. It was completely embedded like that it was growing. There would have been no saving it. So it's like a grapefruit size. And it was it encompasses my entire Philippian tube. So to say the amount of times that I've woken up at a hospital or whatever and heard that like I'm one in a million I, at this point, I'm just like, Yeah, I know. I get it.
Scott Benner 46:53
Well, DKA, right. I mean, weirdly, the dka shows the tumor. Yeah. And then the tumor takes
Stephanie 47:01
away probably couldn't get it down myself. They said
Scott Benner 47:05
probably couldn't get what down yourself. Like my blood sugars and stuff. Really? Well, what would that have to do? Because the tumor didn't grow that day? You'd had it for a while. Right?
Stephanie 47:14
Well, they said I went from egg to grapefruit size in a matter of two weeks. Whoa. So whatever it was, was pretty quick.
Scott Benner 47:23
Stephanie. G jeez. Okay. All right. Well, then that makes sense. You know, it's funny, my mom who had a bunch of cancer removed last year, hers her fasting blood sugars. They were treating her like a type two. And her fasting blood sugars have been better since they removed her cancer. Oh, that's good. I've always wondered about that. I remember, you think like, you're gonna ask a doctor, but I don't know. I don't want to say anything.
Stephanie 47:54
I know. The doctor said when I came back and they did remove and I came doing everything. They're like, you're really lucky that that tumor didn't twist, like flip at all. And like, because it was the fallopian tube. So it could have like twisted it could have caused like, a lot of problems and pain.
Scott Benner 48:12
No, I'm glad. Okay, so you get to you go on vacation. And then you come back and you take care of that. Okay. All right. And what happens after that? Like, where does life go after this? You're gonna have a baby now.
Stephanie 48:32
Yeah, so we got pregnant really quickly. I didn't think we would. And we didn't make it to the coast. So I'm still in the Midwest. We moved back to Indiana. Were my family well my brother was and my A onesies are not as low as what they should have been. But I didn't know that then. Even my endo didn't even tell me. I was like low sixes. She's like your your diabetes shouldn't be an issue for your pregnancy. Your a onesies are low enough that you should have no complications. Just like every time I went in, just giving me a pat on the back and telling me how wonderful I'm doing. And then I went for the anatomy scan for my son. And he had a congenital heart condition they found in utero.
Scott Benner 49:38
Well, how pregnant were you when you learned that?
Stephanie 49:42
24 weeks.
Scott Benner 49:45
That's That's six months. Yep. Yeah, I just did that on my fingers. You don't have to be mean. So at six months,
Stephanie 49:58
I live with a guy that does Adam is sleep. He has a Bachelors of Science in mathematics. So I always feel dumb with math, so don't feel bad.
Scott Benner 50:06
Oh, listen, he thought that 15 grand was gonna save everything. So, you know? I don't know what he knows. But smart. book smarts. Yeah. Well, you've got the other side of it. Right? You could? Yeah, we'll give you the street side. Let him take care of the book side. But so what do you do in a situation like that? When you find that out? I don't know what happens then. With a heart defect when you learn about it.
Stephanie 50:34
What what did I do? Or what what I mean,
Scott Benner 50:37
what you did was, I'm assuming cry. But what did they do medically? What were what did you?
Stephanie 50:42
So I, they found out that his he had transposition of the greater bowels, which basically meant that when he was born, that the unvaccinated oxygenated blood would be pumping through his body instead of the oxygenated blood. Really? So? Yeah. So about a week old, they had to do open heart surgery on him to switch it.
Scott Benner 51:10
Oh, my gosh. So they just kind of like, like, I'm not a doctor, obviously. But they just like, pulled the hoses off and flipped them and stuck them back on again, like that kind of thing.
Stephanie 51:19
Yeah, basically. So at a week, he had to be put, like on the bypass machine, so that they could pull his heart out and literally switch all the arteries and veins on the right side of his heart to the left and vice versa.
Scott Benner 51:35
Oh, my gosh, so scary. Yeah. Yeah. How old? Was he a week? A week? Did you think he was gonna die?
Stephanie 51:47
When they first told me everything, yeah. But then they like, sat me down and told me the statistics and the odds and it made you feel? Yeah, they made you feel more comfortable. Yeah.
Scott Benner 52:02
And then is there any, like lasting effects from that and his life now?
Stephanie 52:08
No, no medications. He goes, he was going to the cardiologist every year, but they just gave him the past last year to go three. Because everything looks good.
Scott Benner 52:21
And it's just, it's just a birth defect, right? They don't give you any reason why they think it happens.
Stephanie 52:28
One, it's like a 0.001% chance for it to happen. But if you do enough research, you will find that it is more common and diabetic mothers. So the six point threes and the six point fours. Though the doctor said they were good, and they're not necessarily terrible. Now, after doing more research, and listening to your podcast, and like the pregnancy episodes and stuff, obviously, that's not the control. Yeah, that you would really need for no. complication.
Scott Benner 53:14
Right. I thought you were gonna say that it was more common in people who had been around glitter. So, but this makes more sense. Yeah, I don't know how to. There's a common argument that happens online, where people say, Hey, I read research that says that an A one C of whatever they the number is, is okay. And there's no benefit in having it lower than that. And they they come to me, even though I say it's definitely at the beginning of every episode. I very clearly say, not a doctor, not advice. Don't know what I'm talking about. Don't come to me for anything, right. But they still come to me. What are the benefits of keeping it lower than like, I don't know. I said, it just makes sense to me. I don't know if I'm right. But you know, if a person who doesn't have diabetes, they wouldn't see us in the high fours. And yours is that seven? That seems like more to me. And more seems like sugar content and sugar content seems like possible problems. And I don't know, I don't I mean, this is my common sense. And nothing else not based. And they're like, well, we want to see studies and well, you go for the study. I'm just guessing. Yeah, I'm gonna keep my daughter's blood sugar as low and stable as I can while you go look for your, whatever it is, which I'm assuming they just want to make them feel better. Like, like, it's not like they're gonna go Oh, I found something and said it should be five and a half. I guess I'll do it right now. Like I don't know what the arguments about it's not even an argument like the discussion. I don't know what it's about like, like, Are you saying you don't want to be lower because it's, you can't do it. It's hard. It's difficult or you don't know how like I understand that. Are you saying it's because you just don't want to put the effort into it? I even kind of after interviewing enough people definitely I understand that people feel Know that way too. But then why do you why are you looking into it? And the only thing I can think is that they just want that they feel guilty or they're worried and they just want it to go away. Or I mean, maybe some of them just want to make a change, because oh, if you just tell me for sure this has to happen, but I don't know who you're looking to for that information. You don't I mean, like, yeah, I don't even know like, how long what is the ADA recommendation right now? That thing moves like every 6.5 Is that where they're at now? Yeah. I'm gonna look I know how to Google I'm gonna figure the whole thing out for us right now blood glucose recommendations. Didn't did it in I found a link I've clicked on a one see they're calling a normal a one C 5.7 or lower pre diabetes they're calling 5.7 to six for diabetes are gone six, five and higher. Is this just diabetes in general? Right. Like they're not saying types. fasting glucose is oral tolerance tests. What is pre diabetes? Yeah, this is this is type two. All right, my googling. Let me type type one next to it. This gets us in a little better situation for what we want to know.
A peak, postprandial capillary plasma glucose of under 180 is appropriate for most people with diabetes. Although an ideal target for non is 140. You see, this is pretty much what I figured out on my own. I didn't need somebody to write Yeah, I didn't need somebody to tell me this. Hello. I wore a CGM. And I looked and I had to eat my face off to make my blood sugar go to 140. Right. And then yeah, and it came back in a little while. I once got it to 160. But I ate like a half a pizza. And then I put sugar on top of it. I was like, let me see what this looks like, you know, and I did not I was not having a good time. By the way. I was like, Alright, let me see what this does. But I was trying to figure it out for Arten. Like, like, what is it I should be shooting for? Exactly. Yeah. And that's why I think of like, you know, 140. Okay, but it should come back and get level without getting low. We're, you know, probably doing something wrong. I think of 180 is high. That's how I think of it. But yeah, if you're telling people you know, I can't believe I can't just find this, by the way, like this should be pretty easy to shouldn't be easy. Right? Hold on a second. Let's start over again. Stephanie Dennett, type one diabetes recommended. Well, a lot of stuff comes up and yet they recommend it doesn't it? recommended a one. How is it possible that I've now less than 7%? A one and I don't have to see it.
Stephanie 58:07
The goal for most adults with diabetes isn't a Wednesday that is less than 7%.
Scott Benner 58:12
Alright, it's definitely no reason to show off. It just popped up for me too. Okay. The American diet you're looking at what I'm looking at the American diabetes Association generally recommends the A once the bill levels below 7% or an average glucose level of 150 fours. All right. Yeah. But that number used to be higher. And in a couple of years, when the technology gets more widespread, I bet you they push it down again. Right? Because they don't want to go telling the whole world Hey, you gotta be keeping a number that you have no knowledge or technology to help to keep? You know, I'm saying so I understand why they move it down slowly. I don't understand why people looking at it. I don't know how you can look at that. And say seven. But what's the a one C of a person who doesn't have diabetes? Like why is Why are my goals different now because I have diabetes, I can maybe I won't reach my goals. Maybe there'll be difficult to reach or any number of problems getting to them. But I don't understand why that changes the target. You see what I'm saying? And you do see what I'm saying because you even though you're a nice person, and you're you're not real combative, like you don't get upset while we're talking. But you're pissed right? And how long somebody told you seven was okay. Yeah, yeah.
Stephanie 59:29
It's even more upsetting that like I still see the same endo and i She does have a very flexible mind and she does support me manipulating my palm for getting my A once the below six like she's never yelled at me for too long over a Wednesday. It would have really been helpful to hear that. You know, a 6.3 isn't great. her pregnancy.
Scott Benner 1:00:01
Yeah, there's no reason to lie to people. Like I think it's okay to say to yourself I don't think this person can do this. Or but they should still know what the goal is like. Do you really mean like, why would a doctor get to decide that you don't get the you don't get to have the right information? Yeah, what are they saving you from? Exactly like being nervous about it or sad or like okay, but you're nervous or sad now? Like, I mean, you haven't set it out? Right? I
Stephanie 1:00:32
I didn't even I didn't have a CGM when I was pregnant.
Scott Benner 1:00:37
Yeah, so you don't even know what your
Stephanie 1:00:39
maybe late pregnancy? Or right after I had my son I got the key for and but I was pregnant, my blood shirt or my finger and test my blood sugar 1215 times a day during pregnancy?
Scott Benner 1:01:00
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know another way to do it without a CGM.
Stephanie 1:01:03
Yeah, so and I was getting to that low six range. I don't know if I if I heard that low. Sixes weren't good enough. And I was already testing myself 15 times a day, I could have brought it down. You still
Scott Benner 1:01:19
think you could have done better? You know, like,
Stephanie 1:01:23
I was in the low hundreds, you know, and in the 90s, low hundreds. And in the low sixes and I, but I was being told I was doing fine. But if I was testing that much, it would have just taken a little bit more insulin to bring it lower. You know, I
Scott Benner 1:01:40
mean, no, I do. Yeah. Are you okay? By the way, I heard your alarm.
Stephanie 1:01:43
Yeah, I'm good. My I wear the tandem right now. And it doesn't let me it doesn't let me shut the alarms off for 70 Oh, that's not like me being 70
Scott Benner 1:01:57
Is that what's your blood sugar's right now?
Stephanie 1:01:59
Yeah, I'm at like, 68. So like, all my phone, my alarms are at 65. That's why my phone's not like yelling.
Scott Benner 1:02:06
Do you want to do something? Are you okay? No, I'm good. All right. No one's ever passed out on the podcast. I would like to keep that going. Please. I don't want you to be in the first one. Because I have to tell you if it happened, I would definitely run the podcast as you should. As long as you were alive when it was my
Stephanie 1:02:24
husband's gonna walk in the door any minute. And he that's another story. But he'll, he will debug me. So it's your life. But then he hit me with a heartbroken the other day. Wait, you've used the Jeeva hypopyon. One. I've had diabetes for 27 years. I have been glucagon one time and it was in the past week. And I can't believe like it. Like leading up to my recording. That's what I was thinking when he told me like when I came to and like actually had time to think about it and everything. I'm like, oh, man, if this makes, if this makes my podcast episode, that'd be funny.
Scott Benner 1:03:01
Hold on a second. So first of all, let me just say that my regulatory training, you guys don't know how many meetings I have to sit through to make ads for you. Like where I hear like, you can't say this. Don't say it that way. Don't say this. You can't make claims about this. You can't use this word. You can't use that word, your package insert. Oh, one of the things I'm not allowed to say I just said but it's not the ad. So it's not bad. But I am not allowed to call it the Jeeva hypo pen. Oh, I have to call it g voc hypo pin. Oh, I don't know why. Interesting, but I know I'm not allowed in an ad. I cannot put the word thought before the words G vocab open.
Stephanie 1:03:40
So how many times have you had to read? Oh, no, I'm
Scott Benner 1:03:43
good at it now. Like I I can say it in your sleep at this point. I've been brainwashed. Now. I know how to. Never say it. But I was in a meeting with them the other day, because we're gonna do this cool episode, where Jenny and I talked about how to use the hypo Ben, right. And so during the meeting, I sent it on purpose. And I was just like, you're watching everybody's face. They all were like, hey, and I was like, oh, whoa, I shouldn't have said sorry. And they're like, yeah, like, Don't worry, I know. It's okay. And I was trying to liven up the meeting. I just tried to make this boring part of my life better. And so I at the end of the meeting, I said I will take any of you out to dinner who will sit down and explain to me why I can't use the word VA before G vocab open. And this one guy goes I'll take the dinner and he goes but the explanation is not fulfilling and I was like alright, nevermind then. I don't want to find that. I don't want to know I just won't say it. But I want to know about this. So you got how low did you get?
Stephanie 1:04:44
Um I was showing low on my my Dexcom my husband did not test my blood sugar because He was probably freaking out too much.
Scott Benner 1:05:02
Were you conscious?
Stephanie 1:05:04
I was. He said, I was conscious. I'm very chatty. There's nothing I won't talk about. And he was asking me a question. And I would just stare at him. So, he knew there was obviously something wrong, right? So he grabbed my phone and he was like, I'm gonna, I had already asked for juice. Okay. I'm just gonna tell you, I don't know how this happened. And maybe possibly a pump malfunction, because nothing else makes sense. I went to bed without changing my cartridge when I knew I should have and I forgot. Okay. And so my pump started yelling at me at like, four 20 something in the morning, my husband gets up at 430. And I was like, okay. I'll have him. Set me up a cartridge and hand me a set. I'll do this right in bed. I'm not getting out of bed at 430 in the morning. Okay, so his alarm went off. And I was like, Hey, take my pump. No, yeah, I was like, I went to go into my pump to set up my cartridge. And it was dead. It was yelling at me because it was dying. Not because it was almost out of insulin. I was like, Okay, it's all right. I'm still not getting out of bed here. Take my pump. plug this in for me. When you bring it back before you leave for work. I need a set. And he's like, okay. Like, you know, that's what I want to do at 430 in the morning to me.
Scott Benner 1:06:41
Yeah, this sounds great. Thank you. So he takes for the you're using control IQ, right? Yeah. So it has to be charged. Right? Okay. So he took it somewhere to charge it.
Stephanie 1:06:53
It takes my pump to charge it. And he said about 20 minutes later, I called them back there again, and asked him for juice. So he brought me juice and I drank the juice. And he went to go check on me again, and I was unresponsive to him. Like I was
Scott Benner 1:07:16
but you weren't wearing the pump for a while at that point.
Stephanie 1:07:19
Right? So you think I would be going up? And I was sleeping. Okay. And there weren't there's no Bolus history. Anyways,
Scott Benner 1:07:30
well, what am I? Well, if you
Stephanie 1:07:33
can't stand up, I think it was a
Scott Benner 1:07:36
reason wearing it though. I
Stephanie 1:07:40
but I was low. I was low when I gave him my pump.
Scott Benner 1:07:45
So it did so the so the pump died. So when it dies, it can't give you basil even Right? Right? It can't do anything. So it's dead. You're not getting anything. And then you will see here's what I'm gonna say Stephanie. First of all, I'm not there. And I have no idea. But my expectation is, is that if you count on that thing to not give you insulin because it's it can say hey, she's getting low let me take insulin away. And now suddenly it's not working. Is there a way for the insulin in the tubing to still reach you?
Stephanie 1:08:22
I don't know. I don't know. All I know is I didn't it said I did not have very much insulin left. I had like nine units before I went to bed which would have been fine to get me through it about probably about
Scott Benner 1:08:41
like Arden here if I go to bed now and I get up at this time then I'll have enough insulin I can check.
Stephanie 1:08:47
I didn't intentionally do that I was going to change it but I just I took a bath and then did it and I just there is no good reason
Scott Benner 1:08:57
for the night before you you were going to change it you didn't
Stephanie 1:09:00
Yeah, I just didn't so and so when it woke me up like beeping at me I was like dang I didn't change that bed to change it my husband can help me so you thought anyways I ended up low and there's no rhyme or reason why
Scott Benner 1:09:15
right? But so so he let me make sure I understand. He took the pump to get it charged. He comes back you ask him for a juice he gives you the juice you slept the juice down the next time he comes back to bring you the pump back you our guns will not not respond. Yeah. Okay. And then he gets G vo Capo pen and jams on you. Yes, he stabbed me in my way. Well, let's not make him sound bad because they are a sponsor, but I haven't I haven't tried my husband's fault clearly. I have a trainer pen right here. Pop the cap off. Fine scan push down. Yeah, and you're done like that. Yeah. Did it bring you back?
Stephanie 1:09:56
Yeah, I didn't even know he did it.
Scott Benner 1:09:59
How long how long after he popped you with it until you came back.
Stephanie 1:10:03
He said like 10 minutes later I, I will I had gotten up and I like came out to the kitchen. I'm like, why are you not gone for work? And he's like, Ah, I text my boss. And I told him I might be a little bit late because I was gonna stay here and make sure you're okay. And I'm like, I'm fine. Go to work. Like you should go to work and he's like, I glucagon do. And I'm like, why?
Scott Benner 1:10:33
An adverb when the way you just use it. Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Stephanie 1:10:38
I had to glucagon you and I'm like, why? He's like, You were unresponsive. Like, Well, the fact that I don't remember you stabbing me with a needle probably means I probably needed it, but I'm fine. Now. You could probably go.
Scott Benner 1:10:52
Did he test your blood sugar after you did that?
Stephanie 1:10:55
No. I grabbed my phone. And I was like, Thanks for Thanks for like, shoving glucagon in me. I have never been glucagon before. But I'm gonna guess I'm gonna end up at like 300 At some point, right? Okay. He's like, do you need me to stay home? Oh, like, No, I've got this.
Scott Benner 1:11:17
So, alright. It's definitely listen. I usually try not to judge people on the show. But if he thought you needed glucagon, but then didn't check your blood sugar afterwards? What was he doing in that time? Oh, no, he has. He has the follow up. So what did he see? Oh, he was watching your blood sugar come back up from Dexcom. Yeah. Oh, but he didn't call 911.
Stephanie 1:11:39
I know. I told him I was like, I told him when he got home. After work. I was like, just so you know. You won't get me to call 911 or telling me that you need to take me to the ER. But like, if you ever have to glucagon me, I think you're supposed to.
Scott Benner 1:11:59
It's definitely you're making me feel very good about something. Let me tell you what it is right now. But I don't think I'm supposed to be talking about business outside of business. But I'm just gonna say this. G Volker and I are doing this one episode together, right? But it started off as an idea about three episodes or four episodes. Because I said to them, I don't think people understand. Glucagon. I don't, I don't think they understand when they need it. Why they need it, how to use it after they use it. What they should do blah, blah, blah. Like that was my pitch to them. Like I think we should do these episodes together. And I think we're going to but we're starting with this one. Your your description of what just happened? Absolutely. cements my thought. Like,
Stephanie 1:12:43
I know that I'm supposed to go to the ER still. Yeah, but I did not want to go to the ER, yeah. But he didn't know. He told me he said the package said to call 911. And I was like, Okay. He's like, I didn't want you to have to wake up in the hospital or anything. If you were fine. Your blood sugar came up and you were completely coherent. And I was like, Alright, there's a reason. I told him I was like, Do you want to know why it tells you to, like, take me and he's like, sure. I was like, You didn't inject glucose into me. You injected something into my body that triggered my body to release all the glucose stores in it.
Scott Benner 1:13:27
And he doesn't know what I'm saying. Alright, Jeeva Are you listening? I told first of all, I told you I was right. And be yelling. Unbelievable. You are so Stephanie. You were so lucky to be alive. But not for any of the reasons that any of those doctors ever told you.
Stephanie 1:13:49
Is it for this one right now?
Scott Benner 1:13:52
I mean, between your No offense, but between your mom and and, and your husband, and you wake up and go vacation, leave that tumor in there a little longer. Unbelievable. I'm
Stephanie 1:14:07
gonna die or get like a cancer diagnosis. I'm gonna take my beach vacation for Stephanie.
Scott Benner 1:14:12
I have to tell you, I'm gonna I'm gonna shutter the podcast right now. I'm not doing this anymore. Here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna set up an 800 number. Okay. And it's gonna be 888 Ask, Scott. That's what I'm doing. I just decided it right now. I'm wasting my life with this podcast. Right? Let me see. Does that work? 888 I'm literally looking this up. 888 ask Scott. All right, it doesn't exist yet. I'm getting it. I'm gonna find out what it takes to get an 800 number. Yeah, and I am and my life is just going to be I'm gonna whip my phone up to my ear. I'll be like, hello. And you'll be like, Hey, Scott. It's definitely my Hey, Stephanie. What's up, and then you'll go I have type one diabetes. If they found a tumor around my fallopian tube, but I want to go on my beach vacation first I go, Stephanie, no, you're gonna go take that right to the hospital and take care of that. Okay? And you go, Okay, I'm sorry. You're right. And then you go and you pay me like $20, something like that. Okay, so that's it. That's what I do like here. And if this existed for years, the phone's gonna go off. I don't care. I get a call. This is this is 30 years ago. Hey, Scott. I was thinking of leaving my kids at home and going and stripping. Well, no, I don't think you should do that. And then I would like I would talk them through that. I ain't gonna make money here. There's a way for me to help people and and make money.
Stephanie 1:15:37
I don't care. By the time she did that. I was like, 16 I was good.
Scott Benner 1:15:40
Yeah, that's fine. Everything was great. You were 16 Completely ignoring your blood sugar and not taking care of yourself at all. Right? Yeah. Okay. No, 888 ask Scott. That's what this episode two
Stephanie 1:15:54
questions shouldn't be. Should I wait, my kids district should be should I still be in control of my child's diabetes? Yeah, well, I would probably talk the whole thing through whether I've told so many parents on on the page. I'm like, and I'm just envious that you're even still like, taking control your kids diabetes.
Scott Benner 1:16:13
I hear that from a lot of adults. They're like, I'm so jealous that you help art and like and so that's interesting. It really is. Alright, you're not gonna die right? Because I'm not gonna let you down like everybody else has. How's your blood sugar now? I am 66 what are what are you going to do? Let's do something.
Stephanie 1:16:34
I'm gonna let my control like you not give me insulin until it comes back up.
Scott Benner 1:16:38
You don't want to just need to gummy bears or something right now to gummy bears. What do you got? You got gummy bears the house
of Skittles. Alright, eat three scales for
me. right angles. My God. And I'm charging you for this one even though you didn't call the number
Stephanie I'm not kidding. I think I've just had a brilliant business idea. I gotta go find out. I gotta go to GoDaddy right now hold on a second while she's getting her Skittles and find out of common sense that calm has taken
somebody owns that. Let's find out what's there?
Stephanie 1:17:30
Are you talking crap? Long gone?
Scott Benner 1:17:32
No, I'm looking up to find out of common sense that calm is available. I think I'm gonna be rich. Common sense is a leading nonprofit organization dedicated to helping all kids thrive in the world of media and technology. Why that ain't helping anybody that's just kids away from movies and our boobs and it which by the way, they don't even make any more way to ruin movies. Woke people. Good job. Okay, seriously. Every movie I saw growing up Stephanie. Yeah, for reasons that I couldn't even tell you. A bare breasted woman ran through one scene. It was just it always happened. And now nothing we're all right, so I can't have common sense.com Let's think of other things to call it
Stephanie 1:18:26
spot.com
Scott Benner 1:18:27
I want to help you think is oh somebody's got help you think.com He's sons of bitches All right, hold on a second. Now I have to find out what help you think that comments tell me when your skills are in help you think that calm is parked? This is what happens when people
Stephanie 1:18:53
I mean didn't do anything with it yeah
Scott Benner 1:18:57
that's what they do they sit on it
Stephanie 1:19:01
and then they try to make buy it from them.
Scott Benner 1:19:03
Yeah, not that this has anything to do with my idea but dummy up.com is also not available.
Unknown Speaker 1:19:09
Oh my God.
Scott Benner 1:19:10
Now if I click on dummy up.com And I don't see a picture of Archie Bunker I'm going to be past one of these is going to be porn by the lake Stephanie.
Stephanie 1:19:21
So it's five clicks away
Scott Benner 1:19:22
dummy up.com also part it's for sale they people just they um they park these sites and then they sell them scumbags. Seriously, trying to make a couple $1,000 Selling dummy up.com Here. Here's here's a here's a little clue for you. No one's gonna do that. Okay, I wanted to make diabetes pro tips.com It didn't. It wasn't available. So I just took the s off and I was like here I'll just call it this since that nobody's gonna send you money because you parked your stupid. Anyway. Alright, I'm going to figure this out. Let's say
Stephanie 1:19:56
one year listeners. One of your listeners bought that
Scott Benner 1:20:00
If you think they're sitting on it, yeah, I want it back thought you'd
Stephanie 1:20:03
buy it from them. That's not happening.
Scott Benner 1:20:05
I want to ask Scott DICOM not available.
Stephanie 1:20:09
When you took the s off and decided to go with diabetes pro tip they probably stopped listening to
Scott Benner 1:20:16
good reading. By the way, Scott Nicholson is a professor of game design and development at Wilfrid Laurier University in Brantford, Ontario. I mean, not for nothing Scott Nicholson, but you're not doing anything with this website. Give it to me, okay. It's Oh, look at that. It's a forward. It's not you son of a bitch Scott. He's got Scott nicholson.com But he's just parked on ask Scott. Give me that. I want that. Scott Nicholson when you eventually find out that I want to ask scott.com Please contact me. I would want this. Seriously, we have to do something. I've listened to your story. I love you. First of all seven. You're delightful. I love you. All right. But you have battled through so much. You've battled through so many thumbs while you're alive? Me neither. It'd be the honestly it's it's it's ponderous. Is everyone living like this?
Stephanie 1:21:21
I doubt it. No, I
Scott Benner 1:21:22
think I think they are. I think so. i There are times you want to hear something that's gonna sound pompous. Let's at least I know it's gonna sound pompous before I say it. So while you're listening, keep that in mind. Okay. There are times I think the podcast is only popular. Because I have a I have a firm grasp of common sense. And people don't sometimes. Is that say I've lived?
Stephanie 1:21:47
I've lived. And I have a ton of comments on.
Scott Benner 1:21:51
Now you do now you know what you're doing? Yeah. What though?
Stephanie 1:21:54
Even back then like, I knew that was dumb. But I just didn't care.
Scott Benner 1:22:00
You didn't stop yourself? Yeah, no. So it's not just common sense. Because I stopped myself. When I think of something. And I'm like a doofus don't do that. You know what I mean? Like, that's not a good idea. We're not going to do that one. Yeah, okay. All right. So it's not just common sense. What else is it then?
Stephanie 1:22:20
I don't know, either impulse control.
Scott Benner 1:22:22
Is it not a? Well, impulse control is possible. I was thinking like, a desire to protect yourself. There's a phrase for that, that I can't think of at the moment, but a sense of self preservation is what I was like. Yes. Yes. Is that not does that not pop into your head? Like, I can't go to Myrtle Beach. Stephanie. You weren't even going anywhere? Good. You know, they mean? So like, so like, not like you're on your way to Cancun or Barbados or something like that. I can I got I got four days in Myrtle Beach. I got my, my deposits in already. So but like, there was no thought like he pressed on that it really hurt. I should take care of that.
Stephanie 1:23:07
Denial. already spent too much time in the hospital. You know what I mean? My knee hurts not even like my largest, like, hospitals day lonely my largest medical story. Yeah. I was 18 and spent 30 days in the hospital and went through like six surgeries.
Scott Benner 1:23:28
So bring that up an hour and 20 minutes into this. What do you mean? How did that happen?
Stephanie 1:23:37
Ah. So when I was 18, I went out with my cousin and we got nipple piercings. Go ahead. And I got necrotizing fasciitis and one of my breasts Stephanie, did
Scott Benner 1:23:54
you lose a? Yep. To a nipple piercing? Yep. Oh my God. Are you serious?
Stephanie 1:24:01
Yeah. 18
Scott Benner 1:24:04
I don't want to chastise you because this is a sad story. But please, if anyone's listening. Bring those up first. We were doing the podcast start with I lost my boob
to a nipple piercing. Don't start with I grew up in Indiana. What are you doing to me, Stephanie? Hi. All right. Hold on a second. First of all, are you okay? Yes. Okay. That's horrible. I'm sorry. How does that happen? Like a dirty needle?
Stephanie 1:24:30
Yeah, not a very clean shop.
Scott Benner 1:24:33
Oh my god. Oh, it's horrible. I'm so sorry. So so how long after you get the piercing did your friend have a problem to
Stephanie 1:24:43
actually she had already had her spear she my cousin was in the military and she already had gotten her spirits and she took me to get mine pierced when she came back to visit for my birthday.
Scott Benner 1:24:53
She feel horrible to this day. We don't even talk that's not okay either. You Yeah, if I'm the one that takes you to the nipple piercing and you lose your breast over it, we have a lifelong commitment to each other now, do you not believe that? I do believe that by the way? I would? I would think so. But I would send you a great gift every year on your birthday. If you know 100% I'd be like, all you're thinking about what do I get? Stephanie? So, so Oh, my gosh, so you go into a hospital? How long after Oh, let me understand it. How long after the piercing? Do you know you have a problem? Two months, two months. And then you go to the doctor, I hope vacation Did you know,
Stephanie 1:25:41
I was at work. And I had called the shop to be clear, I had called the shop and explain what was going on. And they told me that I would be fine to wash it with antibacterial soap and water. So like, I ate tea, and I thought I was doing the right thing. Okay. And it just kept getting more and more sore. So I left work when I was working nights. And I went to the hospital. And they admitted me. And they didn't the first hospital that I went to did not know what was going on. And when they admitted me the next day, I decided I would go ahead and call my mom and I was in the hospital. And so she came up and I don't know is I wasn't I was in the beginning of septic shock. So I don't really remember a whole lot of like what was said, but I know I ended up transferred to a big learning Hospital in Indiana. And the doctor came in and told me, you know, they were gonna have to remove the breast and all the skin and everything. And my mom asked for a second opinion. And the doctor literally looked at us and said that we did not have time for a second opinion.
Scott Benner 1:27:09
Oh my gosh. That's terrible. And so they, they, they, they have to remove enough that they, they're short, it's not going to keep happening to go right down to your chest. Take the whole so do you lose? You lose the gland? Like the whole thing, right? Like, notes everything like a mastectomy. Yes. Okay. And then did you opt to do something with it afterwards? Like do you have an implant?
Stephanie 1:27:37
They move. They made me gain weight and then moved like fat from other parts of my body to my breast.
Scott Benner 1:27:48
Okay. Have you ever had anything done with it? Like, has it been? I don't know what you would do. I'm not sure of the process but like I've seen people have like nipples tattooed on and things like that if you've done anything like I had
Stephanie 1:27:59
the option to do that. But I had been through five surgeries and a year and I'm like, I don't even care.
Scott Benner 1:28:09
Five surgeries just on this one thing. Yeah.
Stephanie 1:28:13
Because I had to have it removed I had to have a skin graft I had to have the surgery to move the fat and tissue and they had I had like drainage tubes and everything and so like by the end of it all when everything was healed they said you can come back in and have a nipple tattooed and I'm like I
Scott Benner 1:28:35
I'm good yeah
Stephanie 1:28:38
I just want I don't care
Scott Benner 1:28:39
what what so I mean Did anybody bring up the your unregulated blood sugar's might have led to poor healing and maybe that's also what happened dirty needle poor healing out of range blood sugars, do you think all that had something to do with it?
Stephanie 1:28:52
I think now looking back that I mean, infection is going to be worse than uncontrolled diabetes but they didn't say anything about it.
Scott Benner 1:29:03
But you did you that was your situation though with your diabetes at that time?
Stephanie 1:29:07
Yeah, at that time I wasn't in very good control. So
Scott Benner 1:29:11
Wow. How did you find the podcast
Why did you find it What were you looking for?
Stephanie 1:29:25
I haven't had any like I up until the past year and a half ish I hadn't been in any like diabetes groups or anything I'm gonna mention something else this is how I found it okay, if I remember now, I somehow Facebook ad came across a mastering diabetes.
Scott Benner 1:29:50
The vegetable people Yeah, the vegans Right, right.
Stephanie 1:29:53
Um, so I listened to that book and their podcast and then like that led to other good Oops. And then it doesn't matter what diabetes group you're in, you'll will see your group tagged. And so I found your group and joined that group and started looking through the posts. And I was like, Oh, this seems like some I'm an information junkie. So like, I constantly have information coming in book podcast, something reading. So like, I'll check this podcast out. And then like, a couple 100 episodes later.
Scott Benner 1:30:37
You stuck with me?
Stephanie 1:30:38
Yeah. If this is the diabetes podcast, I'll stick on mastering diabetes is very fun to listen to.
Scott Benner 1:30:49
Well, yeah, cuz they're not gonna say things like I've said, for the past hour. 25. I have to tell you, there was a moment when I thought, gosh, maybe we should cut out that part about gypsies. That sounds like I don't that's kind of like racy. And now I don't think any of the rest of the episode, if people make it this far, they're not even gonna remember that. It's gonna just be like, I mean, honestly, when I said what I said, after you told me about the piercing, I actually, I thought I was being facetious. I didn't realize you actually lost your breasts. So that was a anyway. Yeah, we'll see. Other people are probably paying attention to what they're saying and trying to be acceptable, which is why it's no fun. I have to tell you, I'm when people come into the podcast group on Facebook, the private one, it asks them, like, where did you hear about it? And the amount of people who are just like, everywhere? Yeah, it's really something. I'm very grateful for that, that people speak about it so well, in so many different places. Me too. Yeah. Well, Stephanie, we're going to just stop right now. Because I'm afraid we're about to find out that you've murdered somebody. You're from another client. I
Stephanie 1:31:59
told you. I told you, I didn't know where to start. That's why I see But you
Speaker 1 1:32:03
couldn't do it. I tried so hard to get these stories out of you. You didn't say and you wouldn't give them up and then you're just like, hey, my, like if I said to you right now, tell me one more story. That's crazier than you lost your bras to a nipple piercing does something pop into your head?
Stephanie 1:32:18
No, that's the craziest one.
Scott Benner 1:32:19
Okay. All right. Jesus. All right. I don't know what I'm calling this one anymore. I was so gonna call it 888. Ask Scott. But now I'm not sure what to do. That's all alright. That's it. I'm done. I'm done with you, Stephanie. I don't know what else to say. Although I do I do want to know if your mom's still hot. But I'm not gonna ask you. And I'm not gonna look, I don't want to find out. But it's just a it's a background question in my head that hasn't gone away since like, an hour ago. That's all Don't Don't tell me.
Stephanie 1:32:54
You're gonna go to my you're gonna go my profile, and you're going to try to find her and good luck.
Scott Benner 1:32:59
I don't have that kind of time. Stephanie. All right. I got to figure out how to get started Scott Nicholson off ask scott.com He's
Stephanie 1:33:08
email him.
Speaker 1 1:33:09
Hey, that's a great idea. Everyone go to ask scott.com And ask this guy to give me his web address is his website. Tom, I need to ask scott.com It belongs to him. Yeah, it's my it should be mine. I mean, not that he's, he seems like a decent guy at all. Like, I'm not saying that.
Scott Benner 1:33:26
I'm just saying.
Stephanie 1:33:27
Yeah, I know. He seems kind and generous, which is why he should give you your website. It's got enough.
Scott Benner 1:33:31
I need my idea. Oh, my goodness. I just went to his YouTube page. Yeah, no, nobody's watching this stuff. I deserve somebody get me. Yes. All right. Make it happen, guys. All right, or 888. Ask Scott. Actually, I didn't look into it. Let's just do that real quick stuff. Me. Let me just go back to godaddy for a second. Can you get one with numbers in it? 888. Ask Scott. Who wasn't available? It is. There you go. All right. I have a lot to think about. Your blood sugar. Okay. I
Stephanie 1:34:13
can't. Yeah, you can't stop the podcast. Oh, well, I
Scott Benner 1:34:17
don't know how I'm gonna have time. You have to do both. Well, then I'm just gonna have to make the podcast while I'm answering calls. There you go. Like in the middle. I'd be like, Hey, can you hold on a second? My phone rang and I'll be like, Hello. Yes. No. Well, then don't eat the nuts. Okay. $20 Goodbye. That's it. Hey, help me with something real quick. Stephanie. I'm supposed to make an eat video for Medtronic diabetes. And I have this balloon here. I'm supposed to bounce while I'm doing something else because balancing diabetes is hard. I'm gonna make the video while we're talking. Okay. Okay. All right. So alright, I've started the video. I am recording the podcast with Stephanie. Stephanie on don't think they can hear you. That's okay. This is the this is the blue balloon challenge. And then I'm supposed to bounce the balloon while I'm doing a day to day chore to show how hard it is to balance diabetes while I'm making a podcast. Honestly, I am now bouncing the balloon. Holy crap. It's not that easy. Okay, hold on a second. All right, I dropped it. Alright. blue balloon challenge. It's a hashtag hashtag blue balloon challenge. guys go check it out and tag bitrock diabetes. Thank you, Stephanie.
Stephanie 1:35:31
Thank you. Yes. You'll
Scott Benner 1:35:32
hear that on my social media later today. This was a I want to say I'm being sincere. I don't know what we talked about. But I had a really good time. Me too. Thank you. Yeah. And I think that's what matters. Also. Take care of your diabetes. And the people listen, oh, you're doing great. You listen to the podcast. Now. I assume you're a one sees terrific.
Stephanie 1:36:00
Yeah. 5.7. Yeah. Or a year now.
Scott Benner 1:36:03
That's Do you want to say anything nice to me about that, or no? Yeah. Thank you. Oh, you're welcome. Really, what's the secret? Pre-Bolus. Pay attention. Don't let your blood sugar stay high. That's pretty much
Stephanie 1:36:17
your threshold lower. Say, Okay. Pre-Bolus and set your threshold lower.
Scott Benner 1:36:23
Right? You want to know if your blood sugar is going up? And then you want to do something about it? Yes. And then you get to keep your vision and your boobs and everything. Oh, that's definitely like a cyborg. You know that. We should make one of those movies again. Arnold Schwarzenegger hasn't worked in enough time. He's he's still alive. He's got to be alive, right? Yeah, for sure. Remember when he had sex with his maid?
Stephanie 1:36:49
Remember when he went into politics?
Scott Benner 1:36:51
He was the governor of California. He didn't go into politics. He was the governor of California. Exactly. But yeah, but he like he thanked us made and made a baby. Did you know that? No. Yeah. He probably got that super sperm. Like your husband works right away. Oh my god. He's 75 Holy crap. I'm old. I am so old. This is the end. If he's 75 I've gotta be honest. 52. And his son thing is, is it Christopher? I think so. He's got a couple. I don't maybe it's Joseph. It'd be Christopher and Patrick are with the with the Kennedy. Mushy Kennedy. You're no help in this conversation. No idea. No, Maria Shriver. Isn't she a Kennedy somehow? Oh, yeah, her grandparents. Rose Kennedy. Joseph, you don't know anything about this. That's the closest we had to royalty in America and you don't even remember them. All right. Well, let's just stop this Stephanie. Because I feel like you and I together are a problem. All right, hold on a second.
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