#679 I Choose Leah

May 10, 2022Scott Benner

Amy's daughter Leah has type 1 diabetes.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, and welcome to episode 679 of the Juicebox Podcast.

On today's show I'll be speaking with Amy, she is the mother of Leah. Leah is the one with type one diabetes, and so many different things. I almost call this episode spicy child panic room. But in the end, I chose Lia. Please remember while you're listening, that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan. We're becoming bold with insulin. If you're a US resident who has type one diabetes, or is the caregiver of someone with type one, please go to T one D exchange.org. Forward slash juicebox now and fill out the survey, the survey will take you fewer than 10 minutes and you will be helping people with type one diabetes. T one D exchange.org. Forward slash juice box. Spicy child there were a lot of good options in this one you'll see.

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Amy 2:19
Okay, or we can start over this

Scott Benner 2:21
does not happen often. You were doing so it's recording now. I am mortified. Hold on. No. No. Are you kidding? What if I wouldn't have looked up in the first couple of minutes? What if like an hour from now we were like, Oh my God. What did that mean? You're like, well, that's how your face ended up on the Washington. Yeah,

Amy 2:41
I'm not I'm not gonna call my child the demons seeds. So.

Scott Benner 2:47
Now this part has to stay in, so I'll beat that out. Don't worry. Okay, Amy, I'm trying to think of the best way to do this. I don't want to make you restyle

Amy 2:58
it's fine. I can shorten it a little bit. You know,

Scott Benner 3:00
I just I don't want to put you in a weird position where you're like, Oh, God, I just had this three seconds ago. Give me a second now. I'm I'm old. I my adrenaline's pumping. I just broke out like one of those little flop sweats. I was like, guys so disappointed in myself. Hold on. It's totally. I stare at this screen four to five times a week, and I watch it go past me and I'm looking at it and I'm like, What's it not doing that? It usually does? Oh, yeah. Recording. Okay, real quick. So I'm so embarrassed. Introduce yourself again.

Amy 3:35
I'm sorry. Okay, you ready?

Scott Benner 3:37
I am. Sarcasm maybe? No, no.

Amy 3:41
Not at all. All right. Okay. Hi. I'm Amy, and I'm a mom of three kids. I have a 16 year old daughter, 13 year old son, and a 10 year old daughter and she is my type one.

Scott Benner 3:57
Okay. Boy, I'm so irritated with myself right now. I gotta let it go. Let me shake my network. Let it go. Let it fall. Good. Do this one time. She looked very relaxed when it was over. But so it's probably easier for her to forget things. Don't you think? A billion dollars you can just shrug things off a little easier.

Amy 4:17
100%.

Scott Benner 4:18
So Leah was diagnosed last year during the summer? Yes. Is that correct? I do want to hear the part that you told me before. So you shared that since she's been a little kid. What did you tell me? Her teachers told you?

Amy 4:35
Yeah. So when Leah was in preschool, her first year of preschool, her three year old class went to pick her up one day and her teacher was like, I'm really worried about Leah. She's thirsty all the time. She's going to the bathroom all the time. That's a sign of diabetes. And I was like, Okay, and so I took her to the doctor. She's like, you know, you should get her checked. So I took her to the doctor and I said her preschool teacher thinks she has diabetes. So What do we need to do? And I had no clue. You know, I knew nothing about type one. And so, you know, my dad has type two, but I just wasn't, you know, anyway, so I knew it wasn't that. But so I took her to the doctor and they checked her urine and they're like, Nope, there's no glucose in her urine. She's fine. Everything's good. And then the next year and her four year old class, the other preschool teacher said, Leah's drinking and going to the bathroom all the time. And I was like, Well,

Scott Benner 5:31
last year, same preschool as the

Amy 5:34
Yeah, same preschool. Yeah. And so I took her to the doctor again, and they checked her urine, again, no glucose in the urine. They said she's fine. And then I want to say, at least one or two more times after that, I brought it up that she pees a lot and she drinks a lot, and she wets the bed a lot. And the doctor just kind of shrugged it off. And he was like, it's probably just behaviorally. Like she's too lazy to go to the bathroom. Like, I wasn't really and I just kind of accepted it. You know? I'm like, well, they they checked what they needed to check and I just kind of moved on. They never checked her blood, which in retrospect, I would have had them do. Um, well, then. Go ahead. Sorry,

Scott Benner 6:16
a behavioral thing, like so we're gonna get to it in a second. But Leah, streak in her. We're gonna call it for now. Right? She's,

Amy 6:24
she does. Yeah, I mean, I will say like, before she was diagnosed my husband and I would joke like, every day that she's alive, we lose a day of our life. We put her to bed at night. We're like, Oh, I just lost a day off the end. Because she, she's really before then. Before she was diagnosed, she was really, really difficult. And we had no idea why. But just really extreme mood swings, fighting with her siblings all the time. Like my first two kids. Like, I will honestly say, I cannot even remember them ever having to fight ever. Like they get along so well. And they're really easy to parent, great kids. And so I was just like, wow, we really the bed. I'm sorry, my lunch,

Scott Benner 7:17
if you want Sure.

Amy 7:19
And, you know, that's just kind of how I felt. I'm like, What did I do wrong? You know? And, yeah, so she's just always been really, really, I'll just say spicy, challenging, difficult.

Scott Benner 7:31
down to little things. Like if you said, Hey, can you throw me the remote? She'd be like, go to hell.

Amy 7:36
She would throw it out. No, she. I mean, she started like, you know, I mean, my older daughter has never said a cuss word never flipped me off. Never. But this one. I'd been I think she was like two or three. She would tell people she hated them. Sticking up her middle finger the wrong way. She would do it wrong. I was like, I'm gonna do it. How

Scott Benner 8:00
do you how do you do it wrong? She would like

Amy 8:02
hold her hands straight out and just stick out her middle finger straight out at me.

Scott Benner 8:07
Oh. Like she was the casting a spell on you. Like

Amy 8:11
that's what their middle finger? Yes. And so I was like, What did I do?

Scott Benner 8:21
You know, you went to a wedding and you drank too much apparently.

Amy 8:25
Well, you know what, what it was we had just moved into our house that we live in now. And it was like a three bedroom two bath. We're like oh my gosh, this house is so perfect. We have two kids three bedrooms.

Scott Benner 8:36
Bedroom got you or your husband? Did he do that thing? We should Chris in all the rooms in the house.

Amy 8:42
We didn't have cable for like two weeks. So that's what I blame it on. There was nothing else to do

Scott Benner 8:49
$200 and lost your sanity congratulate.

Amy 8:52
Oh my gosh. Oh, yeah. We've had to add on to our house like everything we had to get a bigger car because once you go to three kids it just you know you need a bigger car. You need a bigger house you need you know, and

Scott Benner 9:05
did the add on to the house for like a timeout room or a panic room we it goes off and everyone just runs to the panic room.

Amy 9:18
Yes, yes. Seriously? Oh my gosh.

Scott Benner 9:22
Even when she was like a little kid,

Amy 9:23
huh? You know, I will say she was the easiest baby like this sweetest, easiest baby. Super easy toddler. It was just once she hit three. So in my mind, I'm like wondering if and I don't even and of course the doctor is like, no way but I'm a touchy. I've had diabetes back then. And maybe just

Scott Benner 9:42
it's like, maybe like her blood. Yeah. Isn't fall.

Amy 9:46
Yeah. And maybe her she wasn't totally because even when she was diagnosed, she was she wasn't in DKA her agency was eight, you know? And she had she was not in DKA they sent me home you know Like after two hours, they sent us home. And then we had to go back the next day for training. But yeah, I mean, I just wonder if her pancreas has been kind of, you know, going in and out for years? I don't know. Yeah, it just makes me wonder.

Scott Benner 10:15
So in the spot where I wasn't recording, you told a great story about taking her to the doctor to get. Yes. So you didn't you didn't see you didn't sniff out diabetes. First, you sniffed out celiac first, you said because you have a friend whose children had celiac and it made you think about it. So they Yes. Tell me about that for a second.

Amy 10:36
Right. So you know, I was just noticing things about her where she was just after she would eat, she would say her stomach her. And she kind of looked like she was losing weight. And I would catch her eating like spoonfuls of sugar. And I was like, What is going on? And so to me, my mind went like, oh, like nutrient deficiency, which happens when you have celiac. And so my friend's daughter had been recently diagnosed. And we, like I said, we always follow the same pattern. Like she had a daughter, I had a daughter, she had a son, I listen, she had the third surprise, baby, I had the third surprise baby. So I'm like, Oh, your daughter got an autoimmune disease. Mine probably does, too. The only pattern we haven't followed is that her husband is gay now. I mean,

Unknown Speaker 11:24
hey, it ain't over yet.

Amy 11:29
We my kids joke. They're like, lose dad coming out.

Scott Benner 11:34
Get your friend, a lottery or something that would really by

Amy 11:36
No, I know. I'm like, I'm done copying you. Okay. Like,

Scott Benner 11:42
I want to immediately hang up with you and call her instead and talk to her all about that. I would love to hear about.

Amy 11:47
Oh, yes. Very interesting. But they're our best friends. And so yeah, we joke all the time. And, and she's like, Oh, it's never gonna come out with with, with Eric. It's not coming out even if he is

Scott Benner 12:00
your husband. Yes. She believes that even if your husband was gay, he wouldn't tell anyone. Right. I don't know. I hope he does. By the way. I mean, I don't. I don't hope he comes out. But I hope if he's living in a closeted life that he he

Amy 12:15
I would be I think I would be supportive. I don't know. No, I wouldn't

Scott Benner 12:20
be like, hey, what am I gonna do with all my life that I used up here? Yes. Yeah.

Amy 12:24
These 18 years exactly. Forget the gay part

Scott Benner 12:27
like any of it like I would. I'd be upset if Kelly walked and I'll tell you what Kelly said something to me one time broke my heart. She's broken my heart a number of times, but this one specifically. We're living you know, in a house

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Amy 15:39
Yeah, ya know, for sure. Especially like all your good years, you know?

Scott Benner 15:45
I don't know if it's wasted. Well, no, that's a tough call isn't wasted time. I don't know. Listen, we're gonna go down the wrong rabbit

Amy 15:53
hole. Yeah, that's another podcast. Speaking wrong,

Scott Benner 15:56
but I appreciate it when the humor hits immediately. Okay, so we should absorb that one for just another second. That was funny. Take the kids to the doctor's office for celiac. But you say yes. Good,

Amy 16:18
right. So I was like I told my, you know, my husband had been in the middle of working like two weeks straight, like 12 hour shifts. And I said, like, you have to come I know you're tired. But like, you have to come with me because it's going to take two of us to get blood from Leah. You know? And it it turned out it took four so we we get there and I just know from past it's like when she would go to get shots. She would like hide under the table under the chairs. It was she

Scott Benner 16:47
was always does she does she get like this she start boxing or does she just like

Amy 16:53
she's more like a like a curled up rigid body. Like drag her out? Yes, she does a little rigor mortis. And, yeah, and it's crazy. I'm like, you're small. But when you go rigor mortis, it's really hard to lift them up on a table. So I just knew with her and especially just where her behavior was at that time. I mean, obviously she was feeling horrible. I didn't know why. And so it took me my husband, my 16 year old and the nurse we all had to like hold different limbs and body parts. Just to get the blood from her first during that. I think she cursed at us after in the car.

Scott Benner 17:40
She wouldn't in the public. Yeah, she didn't wanna do it in public, right?

Amy 17:43
No, no, she would never do it in front of people. But yeah, I'm pretty sure in the car. She threw some stuff at

Scott Benner 17:49
me. By the way to know where to do it.

Amy 17:53
Yeah, it's just like I said, I really? Wow. I don't know. So

Scott Benner 18:01
she noticed about herself. And back then do you think?

Amy 18:07
Yeah, like I think she she knows she was difficult. Yeah. And I think she realizes it was mostly because she just didn't feel good because I will say she's she's still Leah, but it's way better than it was back then. She's still she's still this there are still some similar things. It's just not as extreme you know. And my oh my kids laugh because on the Dexcom app I have a sweet Leah and they just think that's hilarious.

Scott Benner 18:37
Picked sweet because of the sugar aspect of you.

Amy 18:41
Yes. Definitely. And maybe I'm like maybe it'll just come true one day.

Scott Benner 18:49
Willard, but would you I'm in a will will are into it. But the other so the other two kids are kind of more mellow or do you think they just appear mellow next Alia?

Amy 18:58
Um, no, they're really good. I mean, I have no no complaints. My daughter My other daughter was hard when she was little. pretty challenging until she was about like nine and so we kept waiting. We're like, okay, when's Lea gonna grow out of this, you know? And, ya know, so the other two are way more and like I said, they never fight there, you know, but it's like Leah just kind of brings the house down. We know she fights with everybody. She's

Scott Benner 19:26
when I when I was younger. I used to say one day Arden's gonna make some lucky guy very unhappy.

Amy 19:33
Yes. That'll Delia to yes. But if you ask my husband, he'll be he'll always say like, mother like daughter.

Scott Benner 19:44
So okay, let's dig into that for a second. I mean, were you

Amy 19:48
I mean, you know, I'm feisty. I can be feisty for sure. And my husband's very laid back. So yeah, we're good. Good combo.

Scott Benner 19:59
When should pops off. Do you ever think like, oh, I said that when I was little too.

Amy 20:04
You know, I wasn't like that when I was little was more like teenage you know? Yes. No, I was a pretty, pretty sweet kid. I think, you know, my we had teen parents and there were four of us. My mom had four kids by the time she was 22 Holy hell. Yeah. So it was it was crazy. So there was really no room for me to be like that, who was gonna listen to me? You know, kind of put up with my,

Scott Benner 20:29
I don't want to go down this. I just need to know was that for Jesus or by mistake?

Amy 20:33
That I'm totally by mistake, like, yeah, it just kept coming. I couldn't

Scott Benner 20:39
figure out how her vagina worked for I. I was like, um, every time I use it, a baby comes out of it.

Amy 20:50
I don't know what is happening. Yeah. That was funny, you know, because with our third, we weren't trying. And the doctor was like, oh, like, how long have you guys been trying? I'm like, Well, no, we weren't. And he was like, Well, no, you know how babies are made? You were trying? I was like, Well, okay, I guess I would make a baby. Yeah,

Scott Benner 21:09
maybe you were more like not trying not to have a baby.

Amy 21:11
Right. Exactly. Okay. Exactly.

Scott Benner 21:15
To the kid you find with the pipeline in the middle of COVID. Right? Yes. Yeah. So do you think that changes how the hospital approaches you? Or what happened during Well, I

Amy 21:25
mean, okay, so I, you know, they did blood work on all three kids, but they didn't do a finger stick on her. So it was like bloodwork that they sent to the lab. And the doctor called me the next morning, and I was on my way to work. And he was like, everything's fine. Like, the kids don't have celiac. But Leah's blood sugar was really high. And I was like, Oh, okay. And I like what does that mean? Oh, my gosh, did what did she eat yesterday? You know, what I'm thinking in my head. I'm like, well, she did have a few spoonfuls of sugar for breakfast. I don't do it. I don't. So then he's like, you know, you need to bring her back in. So I was like, on my way to work, and then so, but while I'm on my way to work, then my dad calls me and my dad's a type two diabetic, he's in an assisted living facility. And he sounds really funny on the phone. And he's like, I remember, my face was swollen. It was like, and I'm like, okay, and I had just, you know, got off the phone with Leah's doctor. And so now I'm like, Okay, I go, Well, what do you mean, he's like, my mouth is swollen, and I have like a rash on my face. And I was like, what? And I'm like, okay, and I haven't been able to see my depth because of COVID. And, you know, we would go drop off stuff to him and see him through the window. And that was about it. And so I was like, Okay, I'm like, I pull over. I'm like, Dad, FaceTime me. Let me see. So we FaceTime and it was like, horrible. Like he had, like this weird rash on his face that was turning black. His face was completely swollen. And I'm like, what, like, I can't. Now I'm like, I'm like, Oh, my goodness. So then I was like, Okay, Dad, you need to go to the doctor. I'm going to call you back. So I like hang up with my dad. I call my sister and I'm like, and I think in my heart, I knew high blood sugar meant she has diabetes. You know, I'm like, I just knew it. And I called my sister and she lives up about six hours north of us. We live in Los Angeles. And I'm like, Angela, Leah's blood sugar is really high. Dad's face is falling off. Like, I need help. Like, I don't know what to do. So she was like, Oh, my God, okay, I'm coming. So she got in her car and just drove down. And she was like, I'll deal with Dad, you take care of Leah. So I got to work. And I told my co workers what was going on, and I'm like, I need to go. I told her the doctor, but Okay, bye. So I leave, I come home, pick my daughter up. And my husband was home. He was kind of like napping. But the other kids were here. And so I grabbed Leah, and I say, hey, like, you know, we gotta go back to the doctor. And, you know, they just kind of found something that they want to recheck. I didn't want to scare her, you know. And I was a little worried about going by myself, but thankfully, it was just a finger prick. And they took her blood again, and it was, you know, like 289. And, and they were like, what did she have for breakfast? And I was like, well, she had a smoothie and a spoonful of sugar or two pancreas. Yeah. And so he was very calm. And he was just like, you know, I think we're, we're catching something here, but it's early. So you're gonna have to just, you know, go to Children's Hospital, and I was like, oh, like, make an appointment. He's like, no, like, you need to go right now. And I'll call them let them know you're coming. And I was like, what?

Scott Benner 24:46
Don't want to do that because there's an impending zombie apocalypse my father.

Amy 24:52
Yeah. Okay, so then I go home and I wake up my husband and I knew what's COVID They're not gonna let him come with me. Ah, you know, and he had to go to work anyway. So it just woke him up and told them what was going on. And yeah, I mean, it was crazy. Like we went in there, there was nobody in the waiting room. They took us right back. And pretty much they didn't say it. Like she has type one diabetes, but, you know, it was it was pretty obvious, you know? So yeah, we were just there for two hours. And they sent us home and they said, Don't feed her any carbs tonight and come back tomorrow morning for training. So

Scott Benner 25:28
you know, of all the things I want to ask a question about you said your parents were young parents and your father was in an assisted living place. Why should How old is your dad?

Amy 25:36
He's really young. So he, he's 66. Now but he had a stroke when he was 47. He because he was a type two diabetic and he never took care of himself.

Scott Benner 25:47
I thought you're gonna everything early.

Amy 25:51
So and my mom and dad are divorced, obviously. Five. Yeah. Yeah. That didn't work out. Really? Shocker. Fascinating

Scott Benner 26:01
boiler alert.

Amy 26:02
Spoiler alert. They're not together anymore. But yeah, so he, he didn't take care of themselves. So he had a stroke at 47. So he's paralyzed on his website. And yeah, that's okay. And so he's just been in like nursing homes assisted living off and on. You know, since that happened, and yeah, so it turned out he had, he had shingles and the shingles rash, he scratched it and then got infected. And he also had an abscess tooth. So that's, that's what he had going on.

Scott Benner 26:39
I was gonna tell you that if your husband or when your husband comes out, if you're looking for a guy, I find you delightful. You should hunt me down. We'll see if Kelly's still here. But then I heard the rest of the story. And I was like, No. No. I don't need to help your dad with shingles.

Amy 26:59
And you don't want to be Leo stepdad either. I don't know.

Scott Benner 27:03
It'd be hilarious. I would just, I would team up with her and just pointed at you.

Amy 27:10
She, yeah. So my sister. Yeah. So she took care of him and ended up you know, he, he got on meds and they fixed. They pulled his tooth and He's okay. He's okay. Yeah.

Scott Benner 27:28
Okay. All right. So so how much of this? Did we ever have? COVID prior to this?

Amy 27:34
No, no, we never got it. I don't know how we were able to, you know, especially if my husband's job he got exposed a bunch of times that went around his office. And no, we were lucky. There was like one time where he did have like a direct exposure. And so I was like, I'm like, okay, and this was, I can't remember if it was before, after she got diagnosed, but I was, oh, it was after. And I said, Well, you better just stay in a hotel for a couple of days. And like, as I'm saying it he's already like booking his hotel and like, hey, wait a minute.

Scott Benner 28:06
I've been looking for an excuse to get the hell out of here.

Amy 28:10
I was like, Wait, why are you booking it? Like, wait a second.

Scott Benner 28:14
You want me to leave? And you're not going to be? Oh, sure. I gotta go. What was like,

Amy 28:21
oh, yeah, no, so she did not have COVID. Me. I

Scott Benner 28:24
just realized that before when we were talking. And I, you know, didn't record it. You mentioned your husband was in law enforcement. I just wanted to because he was asleep in the middle of the day, too. So yeah, we work shift work. And I think everyone else was like, Oh, God, guys just laying around the house.

Amy 28:40
No. Yeah. No, he was working a lot during that time. It was in the middle of the George Floyd protests and riots. So he was he was working 12 hours for two weeks straight. So yeah.

Scott Benner 28:53
Okay. So move. What do I want to say here? Oh, you did mention prior that there's a line of autoimmune stuff on your husband side. I just want to go over it. Celiac Hashimoto, motos, anything else?

Amy 29:07
I think that's an well type one now.

Scott Benner 29:10
Okay. Nothing on your side.

Amy 29:13
Now, we just have a lot of exciting. Yeah, we have a lot of type two diabetes, like on my dad's side of the family. So that's just always been my connection to diabetes, as you know, seeing my dad. And yeah, so we went to, you know, the next day after we were in the ER, they we went to Children's Hospital for training. And I think we were there for maybe five hours, but it was just like this total crash course you know, and they gave us like a bag of needles and a meter and some insulin and they were like, do this, this and this and then they wanted to have us give her a shot before we left but her blood sugar was in range. And so my first shot I had was like in the parking lot at Subway, and I totally made her bleed and hurt her and pretty sure she threw some things at me. Yeah, it was not good. And I just was like, Are you sure we can leave with her? Like I couldn't. I just was like,

Scott Benner 30:15
I was really on the edge to begin with. So now you're giving me another thing. And that is a, you know, a reasonable question to ask, right? I mean, if she was, if she was challenging, that's the right word. Right? Like if she was challenging to begin with. Did you? I mean, how many times did you think, Oh, it's this one. This one gets?

Amy 30:38
I was just gonna say that. I was just gonna say that. That was like, why her? Why that one?

Scott Benner 30:43
You know that you wished it was them?

Amy 30:47
I mean, you know, I kind of joked about it. It was just like, the three, it had to be this one. Okay.

Scott Benner 30:55
Okay, so Alright, let's really dig into the diabetes stuff. Yes. So after, you know, you settle a little bit. What did they send you home with? What did you have your needles and a meter? Yeah.

Amy 31:08
Um, pen needle, like a pen? And pen needles, a meter? Some Lantis? And some homologue? Okay. Yeah.

Scott Benner 31:17
How did you find learning about diabetes?

Amy 31:21
I mean, I was so overwhelmed. And so I had reached out, you know, like, I think a lot of my friends had heard, so everybody was like, Oh, I know somebody who has a kid. And so I called like, four different moms who all had kids with type one, and got some good advice, and maybe a couple not very good. But it was good. Like it, you know, so it just kind of made me feel a little more confident. And, you know, Children's Hospital was great, like keeping in touch and keeping in contact. But I think, you know, like you've said before, their whole advice was just like the the don't die advice. And not necessarily like, how is Leah going to be the healthiest? How is she going to feel the best? You know, it was just the, you know, the don't die don't. And so I think, and they said nothing about a pump or a glucose monitor or anything. I didn't know anything about that. And so I think my husband had heard from someone I don't know, he knew something about a glucose monitor. And they were like, oh, yeah, you can ask for that at your next appointment. Well, then I found your podcast. And I was like, oh, no, this is what she needs. So about, like two or three weeks in, I think I found your podcast. And I called right away. And I said, we want the Dexcom. And, and we had it within about like five or six weeks. And I was horrified. You know, seeing how high her blood sugar was going every time she ate. And you know, I called the nurse and they were like, yeah, like, that's what happens. I'm like, but how do we stop that from happening? She's like, you're just getting more information now. You know? And

Scott Benner 33:04
so you'd like So okay, so their, their reaction to you finally being able to see what was happening was, oh, yeah, it's always been a mess like this. But yeah, but nothing to do about it.

Amy 33:15
No, no, she's they were just again, it was that whole, like, we don't want her to go low. We don't want her. And I did a parent. So my friend who had the daughter with celiac, she had come to visit, they had a visit plan, like a week after she was diagnosed. And I was almost like, No, you guys can't come like I'm too overwhelmed. And then we decided, you know, it's fine, you know. And so they came. And so she had a friend who had a daughter who was an adult with type one. And I called her because it was just a situation where there's all these kids or six kids here, and they're just like, eating non stop. And they told me like, No, you can't give her insulin more than every two hours. And so of course, like we're watching a movie, they want popcorn, they want smores they want candy, and is just all the stuff was happening. And I'm like, No, I can't get a stack insulin. I can't, she has to wait two hours. And so I called her and she just was like, Well, you know, the way you have to see it as like a high blood sugar is not going to send you to the hospital. It's a low blood sugar. You know, so then I kind of got that in my head where it was like, Okay, let's keep her on a higher end, you know, but, like I said, I learned pretty quickly that that that wasn't right. And once we got her Dexcom and, and as I started listening to the podcast, I've been having to, you know, advocate for her with, you know, and it's like, I don't want to discount like the help that the nurses gave in the hospital and everything. But at the same time, it just was like she doesn't feel good, you know? Yeah. And well, you know, go ahead, sorry,

Scott Benner 34:53
Dorie, you're fine, you just you're very chatty, and I'm taking advantage of you and letting you talk. You give me be a very fun hour, and I don't have to do very much. It's great. Thank you. I feel like I should send you some of the ad money from this one. But I'm sure I won't do that me just I just wanted to okay, I feel like it, but it's not gonna happen. So I do want to know if, you know, when you get caught in that situation where you feel like, oh, gosh, they're, they're lovely people. And they're, they're really trying, but they're, they're wrong. But I don't want to tell them they're wrong. But I don't want to let my daughter continue on like this.

Amy 35:30
It's a tough spot. Yeah. How do you make sure to do I mean, I choose Leah, you know, I, and so I just started like, you know, giving her more insulin, but I was really afraid of it. At first, I was really afraid to make her go low. And she did honeymoon for a whole year. But we were able to get her agency down by her first appointment, her three month checkup to 6.1 on MDI, you know? Yeah, and this just kind of stayed there. We just so I just was like, no, like, I, I have to figure this out. Like, I can't let her sit at these high numbers. I've seen what high numbers can do to somebody, you know, like my dad. Yeah. And, you know,

Scott Benner 36:13
I let that happen again, no, and

Amy 36:15
I'm like, I'm not gonna kick the can down the road. And trade my fear, you know, for her health. You know, I just, I just couldn't do it. You know, I so I just, I just started making decisions on my own and increasing. You know, we and my husband was always on board, thankfully. And so, uh, he, he's more he was even more than me, like, Oh, he's like, I think we need to have her long acting. And, you know, so we just started kind of doing it on our own. And we would just tell them that we did it.

Scott Benner 36:45
Hey, yeah, microphones hitting your hair or your shirt.

Amy 36:48
Oh, sorry. Yeah, it's my hair. Sorry about that. Yeah, so we just started, you know, just kind of following, you know, stuff on the podcast and stuff on the Facebook page. And we, you know, she just started really, like her levels have just been really good. We just switched. She just got to Omni pod about five weeks ago, which is great. But we're still I'm still trying to figure that out. Now. Now. I feel kinda like I'm starting over. So it's been a little rough. And again, it's the same little battle with where they don't want to let me make adjustments. And so,

Scott Benner 37:27
so we started off with their advice. Went to yours, it got better switched. And then we back to their advice again.

Amy 37:35
Yeah, so now I am, you know, it's like for me, because it's a new thing. I'm trying to still figure it out. And, but I have, go ahead.

Scott Benner 37:43
So how was it?

Amy 37:46
Five weeks, or about five weeks? And yeah, so

Scott Benner 37:51
let me ask question. You were your husband, he, I know why you went to that hotel room so quick. He's like, I'm gonna go have a conversation with myself and see if I can get into yes, no, by the way, I'm teasing you. You are super chatty. It's just, it's perfect. I just need to jump in once a while we're not looking. We're not looking at each other. So it's harder to do. Now, now all that I'm gonna forget my freakin statement. Oh, okay. What what are you finding different about being on a pump versus on MDI?

Amy 38:25
I mean, I guess I Well, the things I love about it is being able to adjust the basals for the different times of day, but they were very conservative with it. And so, you know, they want me to wait, like three days before I make changes to anything. And, you know, and I just I know, better, you know, so, I'm start but at the same time, I also, I don't know all the functions of the pump yet. So I'm still trying to figure it out. And that's so it's hard. I'm,

Scott Benner 38:54
yeah, that's what I wanted to talk to you about, like, because there's nothing really different about it, like I know. I mean, it's, it's, you go into the Bazelon zone first. You either inject it once a day or twice a day, some people split, right. But you're just putting the insulin in. And so that's all the pumps doing, it's just putting it in, it's just putting it in in a different way. But you just go into the basil program and just, I mean, it's as simple as how much like what what, what basil was she using prior to the pump? Let's go for this.

Amy 39:25
Like the type? Yeah, what brand TriCity back. Okay.

Scott Benner 39:29
And how many units? Was

Amy 39:30
she getting a day? Um, we had her up to 10 when she was diagnosed, they had her at six and then we went all the way down to one because she was going low so much she honeymooned for a long time. Right? Then she, yeah, she was up to 10 units a day. So how many she getting through the pump? Like less than nine? So that's where I feel like I need to.

Scott Benner 39:52
I was gonna say is that is that like when she's stable and steady, like overnight, where she's sitting.

Amy 39:59
You know, she He's not state she's going high every night. And so we keep upping it from the night to three. And she's I think she's growing. She's going through puberty right now. So I feel like I almost need to double it because she's every night from midnight to three, she's going into the two hundreds.

Scott Benner 40:14
Okay, well, well, yeah. Well, let's try something.

Amy 40:17
I'm gonna try it.

Scott Benner 40:19
Yeah. But I'm trying to like dig into this one specific thought, like, you're a person who was doing it on their own. And you're making decisions. Not only were you making decisions, but you broke away from the idea of like, oh, this is what they're saying. It's hard to go against them. So you did it. What about moving to a pump? Made you go back to who you were in the beginning?

Amy 40:39
I think because I'm not familiar with it yet. Okay, you know, so I'm not 100% Confident. So and the I think that's it. So I just, I feel a little bit nervous about messing with things. Yeah. Because it's new,

Scott Benner 40:52
try just thinking of the pump as Basal insulin. And you can control the timeframes. So yeah, you know what I mean? And don't even worry about the, the number as much as like the strength like if, if she needs more certain time also, by the way, is she going up at midnight? Or is she going up? When is she going up?

Amy 41:11
Like literally at midnight? Every night, you need to start the Basal increase

Scott Benner 41:16
sooner then. Okay, so I will start at 11. And then then see, because you can't it's the same thing as a Bolus, right? Like, I mean, you know, you listen to the podcast. So yeah, you can't Bolus a meal and start eating at the same time. And you definitely can't change a Basal program. And at the exact moment when the impact is coming, right, because you need to pre Basal the impact, basically. And so Basal insulin, not only is, you know, it's a smaller amount, it's not going in all at once. So she's getting point six an hour. You know, and, like, right now, there's a little bit of insulin going in through her pump for her Basal, right, that, that bit that goes in right now is not impacting her right now. It's impacting her in, you know, 2030 4050 minutes from now, because they're little tiny bits. So you want to jack that basil up? I mean, I'm gonna say an hour to start, I bet you Jenny would say 90 minutes.

Amy 42:17
And but like, how much do I go up? Because they're only having to go up like point five, you know,

Scott Benner 42:23
how's that gonna help anything you should know? 200, right,

Amy 42:28
like, over 200, and I'm up, like, constantly correcting and then sometimes I'll just, like, give her like a Bolus, you know, just to try to get it down how much you Bolus thing in that timeframe? Um, I mean, it's like, I'm just up all night, trying to get it down.

Scott Benner 42:45
I mean, as much as mount, like, units, oh,

Amy 42:49
oh, in units. I'm just doing corrections. So whatever the correction will let me do and sometimes that won't let me so then I'll just put in, I'll just, I kind of do go back to what I know before. Like, okay, if she was 250, and we were on shots, I would give her two units. You know,

Scott Benner 43:05
this is, this isn't an algorithm. It's just the pump, right? So don't worry, ready? Nothing you hear the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician. Don't don't Yes. Don't worry about the insulin on board. Do what? Okay, but it says do what you know is right. Because insulin on board is a dumb. It's a dumb number, it's calculated. And if you're if it's set up incorrectly, it's not going to be right to begin with. And if you count the carbs incorrectly, it's not going to count. It's not going to work and getting a hormone impact. It's not going to work, but barebones. Somewhere in your pump, you've got setting set for how long insulin works in her body. And so if they I don't know, maybe they set that to six hours. It's two hours. Okay, so that's pretty. That's pretty short. That's so that. So it is set up to be a little more aggressive. So okay, yeah. All right. But to finish the thought, just for people listening, if the insulinoma if the insulin action time, I think that's what they call it on the pod, if that was set at six hours, that it makes this assumption that the insolence alive for six hours, if they set it for three hours, then it makes the assumption that it's alive for three hours, meaning that two hours into a meal, if it's set at three hours, it assumes it has less insulin on board. If it's set at six hours, it assumes it has more insulin on board, and then that impacts how much it wants you do to correct if they if it even thinks or corrections necessary. But yeah, okay, I would just and it sounds crazy, but I would use the pump, like injections in your mind. Like okay, don't worry about everything else, like just do what you know is right. And so my point is going to be if you're if you're correcting over those three hours with two units of insulin, first of all, are those two units bringing her back down and leveling her out? Yeah. Okay, so then I would just try to break the two units up into the Basal over the impact time of the hormones.

Amy 45:08
Okay. And I have done that like where I've done like an extended Bolus and just kind of done exactly what you said, but I want to do it. So it's automatic, you know?

Scott Benner 45:17
Yeah. Yeah. So she's getting point six now. You're gonna make me sit up. I'm so relaxed talking to you. I'm way back in my chair. The chair you guys bought me? Thank you so much. Oh, yeah. put a picture up on the Facebook page. And I said, I'm talking to Amy, I tagged you. And I was like, I'm having such a good time. To units, let's just divide it by you think you think the impact is ends around? Like three in the morning?

Amy 45:48
I feel like it's like three or four in the morning. And then she finally comes down. Yeah.

Scott Benner 45:51
So then what if you just, you take the two units, break it out over four hours, give her an extra half a unit for those four hours and see what happens. Okay, now, you might try it, you might have to end it sooner, like so just like we had to start it sooner, you may end up seeing the ended sooner. So, okay, you want to start the Bayes little 11? You know, we're going to try that for an impact at 12. And so if the impact disappears at two, or three, excuse me, you may want to stop the basil at two. Okay, so that by the time three o'clock comes around, and the impact is gone, we don't have a basil. That's too heavy. Okay, that makes sense. Yes.

Amy 46:33
Yeah, it does. Thank you. And I'm just,

Scott Benner 46:34
I'm just using your your number from your correction, like trying to get the correction into the base. Yeah.

Amy 46:39
No, that's, that makes sense that those corrections need to be part of her Basal. Yeah, you should try. I know. I just it's funny because like, once, I felt like I had it down with MDI. I was like, Okay, I'm going broke. I'm doing what I want to do. And I just think switching to the new technology. I was like, Oh, I don't know what I'm doing. I have to listen to everything. They say, I am a little bit, you know, like a people pleaser. So, I mean, not with my husband. I'll fight him on everything.

Scott Benner 47:08
No reason for him to be happy. But everyone else

Amy 47:11
know everybody else. I know. My husband will tell me he'll be like, talk to me. Like you're talking to one of your friends. We eats

Scott Benner 47:19
wheat? Or like, could you talk to us with your gas station voice please?

Amy 47:25
Yeah. Hi, I

Scott Benner 47:27
want to just fill this with AD seven. Oh, why? Nice to him? Never gonna see again. Never. Yeah,

Amy 47:34
I'm only 100. Yeah, that's about right. He's probably

Scott Benner 47:37
taking an impression of our credit card to buy furniture in Mongolia right now. And you you're being nice to him. And you've been to me in 10 years. That's great. Yes.

Amy 47:48
Yeah, so I just I do so I think I just because I'm not confident with it yet. It's just it's taking me a little bit of time to get that courage to just take it matters into my own hands. But yeah, when I see her not feeling well, not wanting to go to school, obviously, it makes me want to be a little more aggressive. So

Scott Benner 48:05
you know, you named the episode earlier. I did. I think it's gonna be called I choose Leah.

Amy 48:13
Oh, I do. Yeah. And, and I just And that's the thing. When I see her, her numbers steadier, her personality is completely different. And I think that's always like my motivation. Like, I want her to be the LEA. She's meant to be, you know, and so yes, I will. I will always choose her over what anybody is going to tell me.

Scott Benner 48:35
Yeah. So you're, you're, you're gonna figure this out and your actions will help her be happier, and probably save your life. If the earlier stories are accurate at all?

Amy 48:45
Yes, yeah. Maybe I'll give some days back to my plate. But yeah, I mean, it's just it's kind of crazy. Because everything I've learned with her, I'm now able to help my dad, even though he's type two. You know, we just recently I just recently I take care of my dad to like, if he has to go to the doctor, I take him and any kind of his appointments, I take him to everything. And his last doctor's appointment, his agency's kind of been sitting in the sevens and eights for a while, which, you know, I'd love to see it lower, but it jumped up to 10.8. And I was like, Okay, I've been in the fog of like taking care of Lea. And so now I'm like, Okay, I know, I know. I know what this means you need more insulin, right? He's an insulin dependent type two. And so I took him to the endocrinologist, they adjusted all his insulin. And while I was there, you know, my dad's on Medicare. I said, Hey, can he get a Dexcom? So they he got one, it was fully covered. And he's on the Dexcom now, and now my dad is seeing in real time when he eats a cookie, what happens to his blood sugar, you know? So his projected agency now since he's been on the Dexcom, is 6.5.

Scott Benner 49:53
Wow. So are you taking what you've learned from the podcast and it's helping him as well?

Amy 49:58
100% Yes. Oh, yes, absolutely. Because, yeah, I mean, it's like you're helping a type two and a type one.

Scott Benner 50:06
Oh, no, I that's really wonderful. I was Yeah, super excited. I mean, you know, I say things. I don't know if people listen. But, you know, like, even like, I slip it in the ad sometimes I'm like, if you're using insulin to get

Amy 50:19
Yeah. Well, and that, yeah. And that's the thing. So I went to his, his facility. And I was like, Well, how, you know, they, they printed out his blood sugar. They don't only check it three times a day. And he's taking probably close to 100 units of insulin a day. Wow. And I'm like, that's not enough. You know. And so I asked the doctor for a Dexcom. And you'd see his numbers. He's in the three and four hundreds all the time. And already now he's just oh my gosh, his line is so straight. I'm like, I'm so jealous. That's such a straight line. But he still has a somewhat working pancreas. But and he's done a couple of times. What's our

Scott Benner 50:56
view on any Basal insulin?

Amy 50:58
Yeah, so he takes, he takes 35 units of basil twice a day, and then he gets insulin, a fast acting for his meals. Wow. Okay. And, yeah, so but the last week, he went low, he was in the 40s. And I called him and I'm like, Dad, are you feeling okay? And he was like, what I go, your blood sugar is really low right now. Are you okay? And he was like, Oh, I didn't eat my lunch. I'm like, but they gave you insulin, right? And he's like, yeah, man, get going. I said, You need to have a good tea, don't eat a cookie, go eat some candy. And so it's happened a couple of times where I've seen his blood sugar dip low. Because he'll just he doesn't eat but it's good. Because he's changed what he eats for breakfast. He's completely changed because he's seen what it does on Sunday. He ate a cookie, his blood sugar went to like 300. And he called me he's like, I'm sorry, I ate a cookie. It's okay.

Scott Benner 51:54
So it's changing his habits to

Amy 51:57
it is because he's seeing it in real time. What's happening? And it's great. Yeah. And I mean, it's just, you know, it sucks that Leah has diabetes. And, you know, it sucks that he has type two, but I'm just so glad I'm able to help both of them. Me too. You know? Yeah,

Scott Benner 52:13
yeah. Wonderful. Wow. Good for you. That's actually you weren't? Well, I take it back. Maybe now. When your husband comes out, I will call you because, yeah, that was really lovely. Plus, I need somebody to help me with my mom. So I'm

Amy 52:25
sure Okay, I am a caretaker. That is my, you know, I do I like to take care of people for sure.

Scott Benner 52:31
has, as the diagnosis caused you, like you said, you kind of lost track your Dad, is it hard with the other two kids?

Amy 52:42
Um, you know, they're so great. Like, they're so supportive. And, and we do, like, my husband and I, like, our kids are everything. And so we do. Like my husband, coaches, my son's baseball team. So they spend a lot of time together. And my older daughter, I, you know, try to spend so we do try to like, balance it all out. But it was hard, especially when Leah was being so challenging. And so we actually worked with Erica for a little bit. And because we're in California, so we were able to, to have some sessions with Erica and that was really helpful as a family and then individually with Leah. So

Scott Benner 53:21
while this podcast is pretty damn helpful.

Amy 53:24
Yeah. And yeah, so

Scott Benner 53:27
I have Erica, like I've ever got on my, my calendar next week.

Amy 53:31
Yeah, she's amazing. And it was great. Like, we did one as a family. And, you know, I think my husband in the beginning was, it is just like, my husband's a type of guy. Like he, like, he'll

watch a Disney movie, he cries, you know, and when Leah got diagnosed, I mean, I cried for a month. You know, I was just,

I was devastated. You know, because my kids have always been healthy. I've always had healthy kids. And, you know, I've always kind of almost been like, proud of that, like, I have some kind of superior genetics or something. I don't know

Unknown Speaker 54:01
what I've done. But what

Amy 54:04
I remember my daughter had a friend she had a couple friends that were allergic to dogs and we have dogs and I'm like, can you stop making friends that have allergies please?

Scott Benner 54:12
Let's say I'm bringing these weak kids into the house. I know

Amy 54:15
that these weak immune systems Yeah, and so I just kind of it so it really you know, nothing humbles you more than being put through something like this and having you know, now I'm just so sensitive to like, celiac and peanut allergies and everything where I think you know, before I just didn't really think about it much and I would kind of be annoyed by it. And it really it really humbled me quite a bit and you know, I just Anyway, are you gonna cry? No.

Scott Benner 54:52
She need help her she crying

Amy 54:56
but it didn't know I do. I feel a little emotional about it. But um, It really did humbled me for sure. And I forgot what I was going to say. But

Scott Benner 55:06
you probably want to apologize for making fun of people with allergies is what I was.

Amy 55:10
Yeah, I mean, for sure. And yeah, and oh, what I was gonna say was that, you know, so when that happened, I was really upset. And then my husband just like, never cried. And I was like, What's wrong with you? Like, why aren't you sad about this? And he was, he did try to kind of be like, Oh, you're so good at it, you do everything. And I was like, No, I can't be the only one who knows how to take care of her because we have other kids. And, you know, I like I need to spend time with other kids and or take them to do things. And so you need to be able to take care of her too. And so he didn't, he was afraid it was hard for him to put a needle in his child and, but he did it and he helps a lot. Now he's very involved. And it was, but anyway, we had a session with Erica and and again, I just think like it, it was hard, because I felt like he didn't, he didn't feel it the same way I did. And we had our session with her and she kind of like went around and asked everybody, you know, how they felt when Leah was diagnosed, and then he, he totally cried, and then we all started crying. We were all on different computers in the house, you know, and, and all of us is just like, so it was good. And it was good to hear how my kids felt about it. You know, the other kids and how they took it in? And what's

Scott Benner 56:24
different for each of them?

Amy 56:27
Um, yeah, I think, you know, like my son, he was so sweet. He was just like, you know, oh, I just only knew my grandpa had type two diabetes, and I, I really didn't understand it. And he's like, I just feel I feel really bad for her. And, you know, he's 12 At the time, and he's like, I just want to learn how to, like, give her shots and take care of her. And he was so cute. And, and he was like, you know, sometimes we ride our bikes home from school, like, I want to be able to go like, get food with her and be able to give her a shot. And, and Erica was just like, I'm so touched hearing that, Charles. Like, that's so sweet. And then she's like, Leah, how does it make you feel to hear your brother say that? And she's like,

Scott Benner 57:04
I guess what she said? Yeah, can I guess what she said? What did she say? Yeah, that kids?

Amy 57:12
Pretty much. Um, yeah, I mean, I guess that's nice. You know, cuz sometimes I'm hungry on the way home from school. It's just like this touching moment. And she was like, Yeah, I don't care. Yes. And she's really mean. What? One of our sessions with Erica, it was just me, Eric and Leah. And she was in her room on her device. And my husband, you know, he hasn't mastered the zoom. Okay. This zoom, kind of had it on a bad angle. You know, he kind of had a double chin, you know, on display. And she just sent him a text message that said, nice chin therapy. Tech says message that says nice chin. Yeah, she's She's charming. Charming, ya know, so it's been so helpful. And I just I feel like I owe you so much. Because, yeah, I mean, our whole family is better because of it. You know, including my dad.

Scott Benner 58:21
Happy to hear that. Thank you for telling me. That's wonderful. Yeah.

Amy 58:23
Yeah, for sure. I,

Scott Benner 58:26
I don't know what to say usually. So I'm going to try not to say something silly, and just say thank you. But you're welcome. Very. It's a humbling like, I try not to say things that I think people think sound just cliched. But you want to try sitting over here and having someone tell you that story. And then thank you at the end of it. It's, it's hard to absorb. So

Amy 58:49
yeah, well absorb it. Cuz I just I don't I just I'm like, what would I Where would we be? Had I not found your podcast? I don't even want to know. Do you know, I don't even want to know.

Scott Benner 59:01
Do you know that this week, has my mom's having a health issue. And I didn't feel like that she was getting the care she needed through the doctor that she basically landed on when she was at the hospital. So I looked at our our options for how to get her a second opinion. And they were all you know, like call the cold call and office and tell a story and hope a doctor was interested. And then I was telling my neighbor about it. And her son had grown up to be a surgeon. And she's like, why don't you call him and see, you know if he knows anybody. So I texted him. And it turns out he went to medical school with a doctor who is the exact kind of doctor that my mom would meet. So she he texted his friend, his friend then called a mentor. And yesterday, the mentors office reached out and treated us so much better than my mom has been treated so far. You know, which sucks. I'm not gonna lie like it sucks. It's like the you need to know somebody to get treated. Yeah, you know, but yeah, but it's, it's happening, right? And I text him to thank him. And I sent him a very thoughtful text and it, you know, I'm telling him how much of an impact he's made. And I'm thanking him. And he responds, it's no trouble. So I was happy to do it. And I was immediately like, No, man, you don't understand. Like, you can't just say no trouble. I'm happy to do it. This is a really big deal. My mom's been, you know, my mom's happy for the first time and months. My family feels relief for the first time in a long time like this is I'm so I'm now trying to explain to him what a big deal is. And as I'm explaining it to him, I'm thinking, Oh, this is what I do to people. They tell me, they tell me something. And they thank me and I go, it's no trouble. Don't worry about Yeah. Damn, I got mad at myself. I was like, I gotta stop doing that. But I don't know

Amy 1:01:07
what Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, I know, it's hard, because you still want to remain humble. But at the same time, you know, it's

Scott Benner 1:01:16
not even that it's, it's, I mean, I made the thing it's recorded. So we keeps helping people. It's not like, I have to do it over and over again to help them. Do you know what I mean? Like, I talked to you once, if something valuable gets set in this hour, which is 100%. Sure, we did. But maybe we didn't talk about the diesel thing overnight. So that might be okay. But you know, somebody takes something from this episode. And it helps them it'll, then and this episode gets downloaded, you know, a lot. And then it helps all those other people. My effort only happen once. You know what I mean? And so it's hard to feel like, I don't know, you know, if 10s of 1000s of people tell you something, but you only did something once for them to all get that reaction. It doesn't feel like are my effort is equal to their. To their thanks. I don't know, to their appreciation. Yeah. And, um, I know, it's a weird thing, but I really do like hearing it. And I appreciate knowing

Amy 1:02:20
ya know, we're I just like I said, because a lot of the advice I got was the, like you've said before the don't die advice, which is great. And I don't want that to happen. But I would have never been able to help her the way I have. Had I not found it. Yeah. And not only her health but emotionally because then we found Erica, so Right.

Scott Benner 1:02:44
No, and yeah, and their behavior to like, I know, yes. Still, like spirited, but she says, yeah, she's not like flipping you off anymore.

Amy 1:02:53
I mean, oh, yes. When we got her her pump, I put a picture of it on the page. But when she got her pump, I was like, oh, Leah, let me take a picture of you with your pump and I'll send it to grandma.

Scott Benner 1:03:03
Oh, she's the one that flipped you off in the pie. Remember that picture?

Amy 1:03:05
Yes. Yeah, she flipped me off. But that was just like, yeah, that was more fun. But yeah. Oh, and she's told me like, she does not identify where her diabetes. You know what I mean? Like, she's fine with talking about it. But she's not like, I'm a type one where you're like, that is so not her personality at all. And she told me if I ever were a type one where your mom t shirt that she would set it on fire while I'm wearing it. So

Scott Benner 1:03:34
that kid's gonna kill you.

Amy 1:03:35
She is yes. Somehow. Slowly, slowly over time, or yet or just one day? Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:03:43
Kelly, why don't you just smother me with a pillow? Wouldn't it be quicker? Why are you torture me like this? Just we just get this done, please. It's just the this this water torture thing is taking forever. Like

Amy 1:04:01
I know My poor husband, too. He's got all these feisty girls in the house. There's three of us. So He said that once. We're all like synced up with our cycles that he and my son are going to leave town every month during that time. So

Scott Benner 1:04:15
I've never been so delighted as how you describe him running to the to the hotel when you were like

Amy 1:04:22
it was like as I was saying it was already booked. I'm like, Oh,

Scott Benner 1:04:26
should I use Travelocity or the one with the

Amy 1:04:30
oh my gosh, it was so funny. To look

Scott Benner 1:04:33
at the sun and go see a sucker.

Amy 1:04:35
I know. Sorry. Don't want to give you COVID

Scott Benner 1:04:39
Oh, it's a shame you're gonna have to say I gotta go goodbye. Three days he's probably

Amy 1:04:46
Oh yeah, eating cookie dough. Yeah, see what

Scott Benner 1:04:51
Well, it means there anything that we haven't talked about that we should have?

Amy 1:04:55
No, I'm just thank you for helping me with the competence again. cuz I just I felt like I did I have lost a little confidence since switching to the pump. So I'm trying to, to get that back, but I love it. You know, I mean, it's amazing. We were giving her, you know, 12 shots a day sometimes. So wow, this is an especially with a difficult child like her there was some running around pinning her down, you know? So but I'm like, I will not like up high

Scott Benner 1:05:28
like flopped on top of Ronda. So Oh, yeah.

Amy 1:05:32
Very accurate. And it's the same with like, you know, the Dexcom, you know, and some of the advice that I've been given by people is like, Oh, well set a timer. And, you know, and then tell her Okay, it's time now. And I'm like, that's not going to work. Like, I'll set the timer for five minutes, and she's still not gonna let me do it. So,

Scott Benner 1:05:50
to do these things, like sneaking up on a wild animal, you just throw it back over her head?

Amy 1:05:54
Yes. Yeah, seriously. And so it's just like that. Dexcom you know how, you know, you stick it on? And then that sometimes she'll be like, no, wait, wait, wait. And I'm like, No, I'm not waiting. And I'll just, I'll just do it. And I know, maybe that's not in the parenting books and or whatever. But I'm like, no, she will literally walk around with that thing hanging on her arm. She will do the long game, she will walk around for days, and never let me inject it. So I just know. I just have

Scott Benner 1:06:23
to do it. So I think the waiting just builds the anxiety. Honestly, it does. Yeah,

Amy 1:06:27
it does. And I just do it. And she might, you know, get a little combative. But you know, then it's done. And you know, we move

Scott Benner 1:06:34
on? I'm I have to I have to tell you be honest. I'm a proponent of do it quick.

Amy 1:06:40
Yeah, yeah, I just know her, you know,

Scott Benner 1:06:44
but even when people take off their devices, and sometimes I see them and like soaking them and stuff. Like why like to get it nice and wet. You know, I know some people have skin issues where pulling it off quickly really does mess with them. But Arden we just like peel up a corner and I'm like, you're ready. She goes. Yeah. And I hold her skin down with one hand like, I just Oh, wow. It doesn't feel great. But it's over and then it stops hurting. And that's it. Yeah. You know, I mean, I don't know. Like if you want to soak, you know, you want to soak your pod for an hour before you pull it off. Like it's cool with me like I don't I don't have time for that. I don't care that we do it. We're just like ripping go.

Amy 1:07:22
Yeah, I also did a little bit but now we we don't wait more than a couple of minutes. I'm like, Nope. Okay, it's coming off now. So I just I just don't and I know her and it doesn't matter how patient I am. She's never going to be ready. You know, she's never going to be like, okay, Mom, you can take money. You can inject it now or you can take it off. Now. You just have to. You just have to get it done.

Scott Benner 1:07:43
And one more second. One more. So hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, why are we waiting? Just wait one second like that. It just goes on forever.

Amy 1:07:49
Right? Yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah. 100%.

Scott Benner 1:07:53
I've lived through that once or twice. Okay. My son was taking a pill when he was a little kid. Holy crap. I still my wife and I are traumatized by one time. We just were hours in the kitchen. Like just swallow the pill. Oh, my father, like retired, like you'll feel better if you just he was little, you know, and he says I don't want to do it and I shut up and to swallow the pill. And he fought for ever. And then finally did it like an hour later. He's like, my head feels better than we were likely. Gonna Majan that. Okay. Thanks. All right. All right, Amy. I'm gonna let you go. And I'm gonna delete out all the cursing that we did.

Amy 1:08:32
Yes, I'm sorry. Everybody knows.

Scott Benner 1:08:35
I curse the biggest curse. Don't worry about all right. Do not remember.

Amy 1:08:40
I you know I? I said I think yes, that's right. That's right. Yes. That's

Scott Benner 1:08:45
got to come out. That has to come out. Yeah. Well, I imagine. I can imagine your daughter saying it. So

Amy 1:08:52
she calls him a little bit all the time. She tells him he's a little and she tells him he's never gonna move out. She's been and he's so nice to her

Scott Benner 1:09:05
because she gets older and she started saying stuff like girls aren't gonna go out with you and

Amy 1:09:09
oh, she's Yeah, she's very mean. But he's thankfully he. He's pretty good about ignoring it.

Scott Benner 1:09:17
Alright, listen, if your friend ever wants to come on and talk about her husband coming out, I don't care that it doesn't

Amy 1:09:24
it's an interesting story for sure. And I'll let you know if my husband ever does. I'll keep you posted for

Scott Benner 1:09:29
when I hear you. Okay. Hold on. Let's take care you to

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