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Misdiagnosed for over six years, Polly fought disbelief from doctors despite clear T1D antibodies. Her journey from a misguided rice diet to a staggering A1C of 17 tells a story of resilience, frustration, and finally, clarity.
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Scott Benner 00:00 Welcome back, friends. You are listening to the Juicebox Podcast.
Polly 00:13 My name is Polly, and I live in Northern Nevada. I'm excited to talk to you.
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Polly 02:07 my name is Polly, and I live in Northern Nevada. I'm excited to talk to
Scott Benner 02:12 you, excellent Polly, thank you for doing this. I appreciate it. You're welcome so you have the diabetes, as they say,
Polly 02:20 I do got a touch of it. Just
Scott Benner 02:24 a splash, a big splash. When did it splash on you?
Polly 02:27 Well, got a very long, embarrassing, I guess, path so about 12 years ago. Okay, my husband said, you haven't been to the doctor in a very long time, I think it's time. So I really dislike, probably dislike and distrust doctors. And so I was friendly with a very capable midwife, so I went to see her. She said, What's your a 1c and that's like, What the heck are you talking about? And she was like, you've never had your a 1c done. And I said, No. She goes, Well, let's do
Scott Benner 03:10 it. How old are you at that point, 12 years ago? Probably about
Polly 03:13 39 okay. And so she did it, and she did a bunch of other stuff. And so she goes, Oh, it was really cold that day. And she said, this a 1c needs to be a little bit warm. So she's like, let me go put it in the bathroom and I'll be right back. So she came back about five minutes later, and she was white. And she was like,
Scott Benner 03:38 I peed on your test. I'm so sorry. We have to do it again, by the way. When does it get cold in in Nevada, I don't understand. I'm in northern Oh, I see in the mountains. I say, go ahead.
Polly 03:48 Yeah. She was white. She goes, you've got a problem. And I was like, What are you talking about? She goes, this is 12.60 I said, What are you talking about? I knew, I mean, I, I knew absolutely nothing, right? And so she said, this is indicative of diabetes. I've always been overweight to some degree. At that particular point I was losing weight. And, you know, we all know why now. And she said, You need to go to the ER right now and get this checked out, and then get to an endocrinologist. And so I said, No, I'm not going to do that. And I had just read about we were following a diet called the McDougall diet at that time, okay, and it's a low fat vegan diet, and I was really getting serious about it, which is why I thought I was losing weight. And Dr McDougle had just posted on his newsletter about this diet called the rice diet, which was used originally. Been formed for high blood pressure, but people had had really good success 4050, years ago with diabetes, with, I mean, it's, it's really a miracle, and it it's not used anymore, because it is tough. I mean, it is a tough diet, and now we have medication that they didn't have back then. So I said, I'm going to try the Bryce diet. She was like, I'll give you third she's like, I'll give you 90 days, and then I'm not going to treat you anymore. She's like, you've got to do something. Polly. Let me stop
Scott Benner 05:32 you for a second. I'm going to live in this moment for a second. A, 12. A, 1c. Are you thinking now, in hindsight, she thought you had type two diabetes. Oh yeah, absolutely, okay, all right, because at a 12 A, 1c I'm gonna go eat rice. Is like, well, then you're gonna come back with a 15 A, 1c like, what are we doing here? You know what? I mean,
Polly 05:53 yeah, yeah. So she, she's like, well, you've gone this far. Basically, let's do it your way, and then we'll do it my way. So when to do this, and it's not just rice, it's rice and fruit, that's all you eat very little. I think I was at like 900 calories a day. She had a scheduling conflict, so we had to go four months. So I went four months on this diet. So I went to see her after four months, and my a, 1c, was 6.2
Scott Benner 06:23 okay, and had you lost weight? Surprisingly,
Polly 06:27 when you're when you're sick and on the right side, you don't always lose weight, is what I found out eventually. So I lost 18 pounds, which with such little calories, was surprising to me. I was expecting the weight to just lose the ball off. That was my introduction to diabetes. And I thought, Hey, I've cracked code. You know, you went from
Scott Benner 06:54 this 12 to the six, yeah, not thinking that you probably had Lada and you had like, like, like, ebbing and flowing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Okay. I see
Polly 07:04 I did the modified version of the rice diet. I had never felt better in my life. I'm a pretty big advocate of this diet, because so many people I've studied it, and so many people are do really well, but it's tough. I mean, just eating rice and fruit so food became non fuel at that point.
Scott Benner 07:24 Yeah, hey, give me a second here. Key components of the rice diet. White Rice is a staple fruits and vegetables. The diet includes fresh fruits and vegetables, which provide essential vitamins, minerals and fiber, low sodium, minimal animal products, low fat, low protein, whole unprocessed foods. That sounds like the diet, yeah. Okay, that's it, okay? And it runs in phases. Is that, right? There's like a detox phase. And the Dexcom g7 is sponsoring this episode of The Juicebox Podcast, and it features a lightning fast 30 minute warm up time. That's right from the time you put on the Dexcom g7 till the time you're getting readings, 30 minutes. That's pretty great. It also has a 12 hour grace period, so you can swap your sensor when it's convenient for you. All that on top of it being small, accurate, incredibly wearable and light these things, in my opinion, make the Dexcom g7 a no brainer. The Dexcom g7 comes with way more than just this, up to 10 people can follow you. You can use it with type one, type two, or gestational diabetes. It's covered by all sorts of insurances. And this might be the best part. It might be the best part alerts and alarms that are customizable, so that you can be alerted at the levels that make sense to you. Dexcom.com/juice, dot com, slash juice box. Links in the show notes. Links at Juicebox podcast.com, to Dexcom and all the sponsors. When you use my links, you're supporting the production of the podcast and helping to keep it free and plentiful. Today's episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by Omnipod. And before I tell you about Omnipod, the device, I'd like to tell you about Omnipod, the company. I approached Omnipod in 2015 and asked them to buy an ad on a podcast that I hadn't even begun to make yet because the podcast didn't have any listeners, all I could promise them was that I was going to try to help people living with type one diabetes. And that was enough for Omnipod. They bought their first ad, and I used that money to support myself while I was growing the Juicebox Podcast. You might even say that Omnipod is the firm foundation of the Juicebox Podcast, and it's actually the firm foundation of how my daughter manages her type one diabetes every day. Omnipod.com/juicebox whether you want the Omnipod five or the Omnipod dash, using my link, let's Omnipod know what a good decision they made in 2015 and continue to make to this day. Omnipod is easy to use, easy to fill. So easy to wear, and I know that because my daughter has been wearing one every day since she was four years old, and she will be 20 this year, there is not enough time in an ad for me to tell you everything that I know about Omnipod, but please take a look omnipod.com/juicebox I think Omnipod could be a good friend to you, just like it has been to my daughter and my family. Yeah, there's like
Polly 10:27 a there's like the first phase, which is just what you mentioned. And then you can add, they joke that you can add that you got chicken, so you can add, like, protein. And I never did, because I just wanted to jump in. I knew nothing. I had never even heard the word A, 1c, at that point, yeah. So I thought, Hey, I've looked this, you know, I'm good. So I stayed on a modified version, and I started losing weight. And I thought, Hey, I am good. And I didn't lose, you know, massive amounts. It was very steady. So I thought, you know,
Scott Benner 11:07 I'm doing this healthy, even I am good, right? That
Polly 11:11 went on for about five years. And then the best way to say it is my mental state just collapsed. I couldn't think. I was upset all the time. We own our own business, so I was just under a lot of pressure. I was putting myself under a lot of pressure. I really don't remember what caused me to get up one morning and call my reproductive endocrinologist that I had had 16 years earlier when I was trying to get pregnant with my son, and I said, I need to see an endocrinologist. And I really, I can't tell you what got me to that point. I called him, and they said, Oh yeah, across the parking lot, go see doctor so and
Scott Benner 11:57 so, I guess what got you there is five years of rice and apples. But, you know, yeah,
Polly 12:04 so I called and I couldn't get in, and I just felt, at that particular moment, I felt very desperate. So at the time, I didn't have insurance. So we have a wonderful nonprofit. It's not the health department, but it's a medical facility. So I called them, and they got me in that day, and they did an A, 1c and it was 17, I think Jesus, it was during COVID. Lady, you know how things stick in your brain, the lady, the physicians assistant that was helping me, she's Russian, and she's just one of these flappy people, you know. And she had on one of those masks that look like a duck bill, you know what I'm talking about, that people were
Scott Benner 12:59 I'm still stuck wondering what flappy means. What is it when people are flapping? Just a
Polly 13:04 real excitable person, oh, you know, I gotcha. And she had on this mask. So here I am, you know, knowing that my health is just falling apart. And this Russian lady, you know, is just flapping around the room with this, you know, duck bill mask. And I wanted to laugh, but it was just crazy. So anyway, so she's like, you gotta get to the emergency room. You gotta get to the emergency room. And I was like, okay, okay, I'll do it. Shut up, you know, just calm the hell down. You know, go to the car. My husband's in the car waiting for me because it's COVID and he can't come in. And I did not know he had called his brother, who is a doctor, and he had not been able to get back in touch with his brother. As I get in the car, you know, my head is just spinning. I'm saying this lady is saying I got to go to the ER. And he said, I'd really rather talk to my brother before we go, just to see what we're looking at. And I thought that was reasonable. And then the phone, my phone, rings, and it's the endocrinologist that I had called that morning. It's we had a cancelation. We can see you
Scott Benner 14:18 tomorrow. Did you tell them what had just happened, yeah?
Polly 14:21 Well, it was just the receptionist. And so I told her, because at
Scott Benner 14:25 that point, Polly, you're five years late to go to the ER,
Unknown Speaker 14:28 yeah,
Scott Benner 14:31 like, one more day,
Polly 14:33 one more day. Well, exactly, that's exactly what I was thinking. And I told her, and she said, she's like, you can go to the ER. And she said, then we'll see you. But she's like, you know, she's like, you've gone this far. Why don't you wait till tomorrow? I
Scott Benner 14:47 have to be honest for everyone listening, I don't think that's a reasonable medical response. I
Polly 14:52 know she was just receptionist. So I was talking to my husband, and he's like, I really would rather talk to my brother. We can come. Back into town and go to the ER if he says to go. So he calls us back as soon as we walk in the door. We tell him start to finish. And he said, If this is a reputable endocrinologist, and not just, you know, like a general practitioner kind of thing, he's like, I would just go tomorrow and see what happens. Okay, so we went tomorrow, the next day, and once again, and I'm gonna sound like pooping on physicians assistants, I have not had good experience with physicians assistants. Okay, so the physicians assistant at the at the endocrinologist comes in, oh, I forgot to my brother in law, is a very he's very thorough. What kind of doctor is he neurologist? Okay, he's very thorough, and he's very kind. He's just the tops in his field. So he said, you really ought to go get this thing called a gad test. He said, I doubt you have type one, but at least he said, When, when an A, 1c, is that high that might you might have type one? And he said, that's going to tell you if you do or you don't. So we ran back into town and went to a walk in and we did the GAD test. And what's the other one? Forget it's
Scott Benner 16:32 you did the auto antibodies for the for the GAD and the C peptide,
Polly 16:36 C peptide. So he told us to do those. We did those. And the next morning, we got it, and they they texted, they faxed it to me, and I looked at the, you know, the range, and my range was
Scott Benner 16:51 on the back of the paper, to flip it over to find it. Yeah, I would imagine. I said, look
Polly 16:57 at I told my husband. I was like, Look at this. I'm not even remotely in the range. And he says, Does that mean you have type one? Because we didn't know, sure. And I was like, it looks like it. And he was like, Well, that might explain a lot. So I get to the endocrinologist, and I show him these tests, he would not look at him
Scott Benner 17:21 because he wanted to run him and bill you for them. No, not at all.
Polly 17:25 He wouldn't run them. He goes, if you had type one, you'd be dead. That's what he told me. I swear
Scott Benner 17:30 to God, Polly, I gotta tell you something. I don't know if I've said this in a while, but the whole thing, it's all being held together by good luck and duct tape. Do you understand? No kidding, yeah, that. I don't mean you or your health. I mean everything. We're the worst stewards of logic people. Just how many people like that? One doctor, I'm five years back in this story, that doctor knew what to do, told you to do it. You said, No. And she went, Okay. What she should have said is, Polly, are you a doctor? Shut up and go to the ER, right. But instead she goes, Polly wants to try the rice diet. We'll go with like, Are you kidding me? And also, you're not a person who goes to the doctor, so you're trying not to go to the doctor to begin with, and she should have pushed back on you. Then no. And then your life falls apart. You end up in another place. Go to the emergency room. Then you leave, how about sit here and I'm gonna call an ambulance for you. Do you know what I mean? Or, like, go get your husband, or we'll go get your husband who's out in the car, or something. Like, everybody just like, hopes it's gonna be okay. It's fascinating. And then you get to an endocrinologist who tells you, Oh, if you had type one, you'd be dead, yeah, unless No. And now I'm sorry, this is very frustrating. Go ahead, keep talking. He says that my
Polly 18:49 frustration, you got out of your mind. I knew enough. I mean, I can read, you know, yeah, now so I could read that the ranges were off, and I saw that with my own two eyes. And here he is. I'll give him credit where credit is due. He slapped a Libra two on me and said, This is going to tell you where you are, and we need to bring the numbers down, and that's what we're going to do. So he slapped a CGM on me, gave me ozempic and gave me Jardiance and, oh, and I'd skipped an entire portion of the
Scott Benner 19:35 but Polly, how does he ignore the C peptide and got antibody? I have no idea. Like, has he did everything right if you had type two diabetes, but he's looking at testing that says you have type he won't
Polly 19:46 even look at it. He never looked at it. He would not look at it. I know. I mean, we've considered we are not litigious people, but we have considered Su and him, because it was so i. Malpractice so much. I don't
Scott Benner 20:01 understand anything that happens. It just in general. Like some of you have great doctors, like you just do. But for those who don't run into great doctors, this is the other side of it. Yeah, it's not like a slow gradient from fantastic down to amazing down to either you get a good one or you get this. It seems to be what it is anyway. I'm sorry, yeah, you said you missed something in the story. Wouldn't you
Polly 20:24 miss? Yeah, so I failed to say about a year before the flappy physicians assistant, I went to see a naturopath doctor, and she came very highly recommended. We were back on the Type Two diagnosis, and she had put me on what's the pill? Oh, God,
Scott Benner 20:49 Metformin. I'm in your head. Polly, everything you haven't thought of I've known today. Go ahead. I know. There you are. And
Polly 20:54 so she had put me on Metformin, and I must have had some kind of reaction. You make a lot of poopy It was like nothing I could even imagine. Much less had ever happened before. It was terrible. Okay, so that's when I went back on the rice diet and all that. So, so there was that portion there, and she was like, you've got to get to an endocrinologist. And I was like, No, we're going to do this. Blah, blah, blah. So, so here I am diagnosing myself. So anyway, so I'm with this physician's assistant, and he's throwing all these type two medications on me, and he was just a terrible person. I mean, I can't say anything nice about him. He had no bedside manner. He wouldn't listen. He would yell at me. It was just my husband. The only time he was nice to me was when he had a trainee physician's assistant there, and she was very cute, and so he was flirting with her, and that was the only time he was nice to me in the six months I saw him. Are you so me? No,
Scott Benner 22:05 Pauly, are you telling me that you only get good medical care when the doctor's showing off for a pretty girl in the room? Exactly.
Polly 22:12 It was terrible. I don't know what was going on with the MD that was in that practice, because I tried getting in touch with her, telling her, you know, this is what's going on, and they would never let me talk to her. She dealt with the really big cases. I guess it was, it was, I
Scott Benner 22:29 don't know, I just, I hold on a second. You're exhausting me, not you. But this story is exhausting me. I know. Oh my god.
Polly 22:41 It was, it was, it was an interesting I'm trying
Scott Benner 22:43 to picture me walking into my doctor's appointment going, I hope there's a young, perky girl in the room so that my doctor tries.
Polly 22:51 I'll tell you the cherry on top of the story with this guy after your episode about ever since I thought, oh, that sounds great. I would like to give it a try. So I call ever since, and guess who is the only one who does the implant in my area?
Scott Benner 23:11 Doctor. Feel good. Yeah.
Polly 23:12 And the girl of the and I started just laughing, Catholic. I started cackling. And I was like, No, so we'll have to try something else and shoot. I'm
Scott Benner 23:24 going to tell you something, because when this recording comes out, it should be the truth, but they're going to have a one year. Their sensor is going to go for one year soon. Oh, cool. Ever since put it in once. Here's what I understand. Is coming one insertion a year, and if it all works out, it's only going to require calibration once a week. Well, yeah, it's pretty awesome. I mean, it's a big leap for that device. So just imagine not having to change your device, like 10 days, 14 days, however you're changing yours now, can't get knocked off, can't fall off in a pool. If you want to stop using it for an hour. You don't have to restart over again with a new device like, man, it's just a lot of value there. It's coming. You know what? I mean, it's pretty awesome. Is it a thing? You actually can see
Polly 24:09 excited about it, because right around the time of that episode, you know how you can go a year without having any issues, and then it's like one thing after, I had to call libre or Abbott for six replacements. And the lady on the phone was like, what? Why are you doing six one time? I was like, I have not had time. It's been one thing after. So I got six replacements.
Scott Benner 24:37 I can't call every time your thing blows up, I know. And it was just like,
Polly 24:41 one thing, I hit it once, once, twice. It just didn't work. You know, another one. So really excited to hear about the ever since,
Scott Benner 24:50 yeah, I think a big part of why people might consider switching to it. I mean, once it goes to the year and but again, by the way, that it should be at a year. By the time this episode comes out, it should be that should already be by ever since cgm.com/juicebox, go look, if you want to see what it says. But the idea that you won't have to mess with devices, like, I mean, devices, listen, they're all terrific, and they add to your life, but then they're almost like, buying a pet, you know what? I mean? Like, you're like, Oh, I got a thing. It's so cute. I love looking at it, but I also have to clean out its cage, and I gotta, like, give it water, yeah? Like, so you get a CGM, like, It's amazing all the things it brings to you, but now that's also part of your job. So a lot of people are gonna see the value in going to a doctor once a year. Again, this thing inserted, calibrating it once a week, and not thinking about it other than that, I think. But we'll see what happens. So I don't know, does your story get better? Does anybody realize you have type one diabetes at any point in this story?
Polly 25:48 So I'll, I'll just go, keep going. So
Scott Benner 25:52 she's like, Polly's like, Don't knock me off this course. Yeah. I mean,
Polly 25:56 it eventually gets better. So I'm going to this Yo yo, and I just don't feel good about it. And so I'm a Christian, and I have learned, obviously, that I don't know everything. And so I I prayed about it, and I was like, you just gotta help me through this, Lord, because I'm not getting anywhere. I've felt I learned about Lada, and I just felt confident that I was water. I remember, and at the time, I have a chronic yeast infection in my intestines, so I was going to another doctor for that, and he was looking at the whole thing. He was trying to just figure out why this yeast infection would not get better. Well now we know because it was because my Yeah, he was so, yeah, it was just getting fed constantly with sugar. And so he looked at my dad and and see peptide. And he's like, You don't he says, You sure don't make a lot of insulin. I was like, thank you. I'm trying to tell you know this guy. And he's like, I want to get you on some insulin. He said, I think that's going to help everything. So he put me on Lantis, a real low dose. He was afraid of killing me with Lantis. And again, this is during COVID, so just not a lot of contacts either. Yeah. I mean, everything was on Zoom and getting into other doctors was difficult, and he's like He says, I feel confident that this is going to help you. So I am sitting in front of the grocery store after picking up my Lantis, and my phone rings, and it's the endocrinologist office, and the girl said, I've got some bad news. The PA just left the practice, and you have an appointment next week, and we don't have anybody for you to see. I started cackling like and she, I'm sure she thought I was just the craziest person in the world. And I started cackling. It was like, I believe in prayer. I said I got my answer, because I am not supposed to see him. So she was like, we just don't know what we're going to do. So when we get somebody else, you know, we'll call you and set up an appointment. That was December, and I probably went five months without seeing anybody, which was just fine, I mean, because I wasn't getting good care to begin with, right? I went back to the health department place, and they were like, You need to be seen. And so they did a referral to a big hospital in Reno, which is the next big town, got in there to see the doctor, and he immediately looked at the GAD and the C peptide, and he goes, You're lad. He said, Why are you being treated for type two? And I was like, well, thank you. That's been my question for the last year and a half. Well, it's
Scott Benner 28:46 18 months since you went to that endocrinologist and said, Look at this test. And he said, No, I'm not going to look at it. You'd be dead.
Polly 28:53 Yeah, I don't and so, and it took a doctor, you know, three minutes. Yeah, he kept me on ozempic. He took me off of the Jardiance
Scott Benner 29:03 was the ozempic helping you? Like, did you lose weight? I
Polly 29:06 was losing weight. I would say, overall, it definitely helped. I
Scott Benner 29:11 mean, it must have been helping a little bit with your the resistance as well. I would imagine, like, you're exactly your limited beta cells were probably, you're probably getting more bang for your buck than you would without it
Polly 29:21 exactly. I think that's what it was. He was not convinced that it was helping. And at that time, I didn't need to lose any more weight. I was pretty thin at that time, okay, but he thought it would help with the gut issues, because it was giving me some consistency on on digestion. Okay, so like, right now, I'm not on ozempic, and my digestion is one meal, it might digest in 20 minutes, and another it might be three hours. It's very inconsistent. So that's very frustrating. I
Scott Benner 29:57 don't have diabetes, and I love G. P for how consistent it makes your digestion, it's fantastic. Yeah, yeah, for me, he kept
Polly 30:05 me on that. I saw him in September three years ago. I was pretty good by my a, 1c i think i was like around 6.2 he was pleased. So I was still just doing the low, very low dose of Lantis and those impact. And so I was just kind of rocking along with that. And then Christmas came and went. And between Christmas and New Year's, I could not bring my numbers down. I was constantly at 202 50, I call them, and they sit down. You're over your honeymoon. They put me on a pin, and I started taking that.
Scott Benner 30:50 Here comes the next part. Yeah, wow. What a slow is it? So, I mean, obviously we'll never know, but how interesting would it be to go back to the beginning, go to that emergency room on day one, get that testing, find out you have Lada. And I wonder how well it would have got managed if they knew exactly what it was, and how long it might have strung this out, because you really the reason you're not dead is because your onset was so slow, it was
Polly 31:18 so slow, and my brother in law pontificates that it's because we were on a vegan diet, and so I was very consistent with what I was eating. Were you lower carb? No, it was actually high carb, high carb. It's a it was a very high carb diet, high carb diet. That high
Scott Benner 31:37 carb, high fat thing, low fat, low fat, excuse me, like the mastering diabetes thing, or no, yeah,
Polly 31:44 probably a lot like them. Okay, I'll be honest. I tried. I looked into mastering diabetes for whatever reason, it just didn't click with me. And maybe it was because I was doing this other diet for so long, just the high fruit just really would send me flying. So I just, it just didn't sit well with me, even after the rice diet, but the high fruit of mastering diabetes just didn't make sense to me. Okay, after I got the CGM, I could see, you know, where it would just send me flying, but I know a lot of people do well on it, but it just didn't click with me, with
Scott Benner 32:22 a lot of those different like plans, if you stick to them, they often give you what they they say they're going to and I think where the hiccup is is when people can't stick to them. So yeah, exactly, don't want to, or whatever. How do you find me? So
Polly 32:37 I did what any 21st century person did, did and I got on Facebook, and I looked up lotta there, I found two lotta groups, and one of them was just hardcore low carb, which I just haven't even looked into, that it's just not, it wouldn't fit my life. I'd
Scott Benner 32:58 love to see you jump in there and tell them about your rice diet. I think that'd be awesome. Yeah, they
Polly 33:01 would, their heads would blow up, and then another one, not hardcore, but they definitely leaned towards the low carb. And they would talk about Juicebox, Juicebox Podcast, Juicebox Facebook group. And I'm like, What in the hell is this Juicebox? And I really ignored it, because, I mean no offense. I mean absolutely no offense, because I love the podcast and I love the Facebook group, but it's not, what a stupid name, you know, I'm not going to go look at juice box that must be for kids. And then one day, I was like, Okay, I gotta find out what this juice box, because they were just talking about one of the episodes. I went to the Facebook group and just fell in love with it, because everybody is just so helpful. And
Scott Benner 33:46 the kind place, it is very
Polly 33:49 kind, yeah, very nice people. I kind of left that lot of group behind and went to the Facebook group, and I probably stayed on Facebook group for a good three months before I ever listened to an episode. It was a little bit overwhelming, because there's just so much information. So went to the website, and I saw where you had, you know, different groups of episodes, and that was helpful.
Scott Benner 34:12 I'm glad that's Isabelle. She did that for me. She did a fabulous job. I'm a boy that was very she met me, and she goes, You need to be more organized. And I was like, well, that's not going to happen if you're waiting for me to do it. So yeah, if you'd like to get involved, that'd be wonderful. I get stuck in that spot, like, I don't know what to do. Like, I create, I create content. You know what I mean. So if you make an episode once a week or once a month or something, it's not enough. You don't cover enough details, and you don't cover enough subjects, and if you put it out as fast as it needs to be put out so you can get it all out there, then some people say, Oh my God, I feel overwhelmed. And you're like, I can't win, so I throw it all out there, and I just hope you can find it. And then try to give you some opportunities to find it. Yeah, yeah. It's an imperfect system. Them, but it sounds like you made your way through it about the way we expect, by the way, yeah, get on Facebook. Hear a bunch of people saying, Juicebox Podcast. You're like, What the hell is that? I'll go fine. I'll go look actually, the way I market the podcast is the way I got my wife to marry me. I just put her in a situation. She was like, Oh my God, if you're gonna keep asking that, okay, you know, you hear Juicebox, juice box. You head over, you find the Facebook group. And then it's unavoidable. If you're in that group at any interval, you are gonna see three people a day say this podcast really saved me. And then I guess it's gotta draw you in at some point, right? You know? But, yeah,
Polly 35:36 I mean, it was, I am not a it's just the truth. I'm not a deep thinker. I'm more of a my husband. I believe that to my husband and my children, they all have that engineering brain type thing going on, and I'm the one who just kind of fills in the gaps. So I was listening to podcast, and it was making so much sense to me, my husband and I got in the car, and I was like, You gotta listen to this and tell me if you know I'm understanding this correctly, if you understand it
Scott Benner 36:10 the same way I'm hearing what I'm hearing, right? Yeah, yeah. And
Polly 36:13 so we did, and he probably like, three or four of the bold beginnings that day we were in the car, and he was like, Yeah, that makes perfect sense. He was like, I would have never thought of it, but it makes sense. So it really changed, not drastically, but it changed and kind of put us on a path of management that I think has been very helpful. I'm glad that's excellent, that the digestion thing is, you know, the monkey wrench and everything dealing with that is not easy. I can't Pre Bolus, like other people can. I'm constantly playing catch up because I just don't know when the food is going to hit. So one would say, Well, you know, you know that such and such is going to hit you quickly, and that's not true. There's just no are
Scott Benner 37:02 you on the GLP right now? No, I'm not. Is there a reason why my
Polly 37:06 husband was having some endocrine issues? So we went to he went to an endocrinologist in another one. He got recommended to another one, and we just really liked him. So I started going to him as well. And the endocrinologist is great, but his PA is not. The PA took me off of the ozempic and made wouldn't increase my basal. Just really made a lot of bad choices.
Scott Benner 37:35 I mean, if you take somebody off a GLP, they're going to need more insulin, very likely. Oh yeah,
Polly 37:40 yeah. So now that I'm off of it, the insurance won't pay for it. My doctor did a conference call with the insurance company. They still won't do it. So we're gonna try again in six months, so we'll see that getting
Scott Benner 37:53 off it is horrible, because, like, once you've got the okay, you don't want to make them look over at you again. You know what I mean? Exactly? Yeah? Now, yeah, I've learned that you got it when you had a type two diagnosis, exactly, right? So now they're gonna have to go back and give you a dual diagnosis of type one and insulin resistance, and they're gonna have to call that type two, and then the insurance company's gonna have to accept that there's a dual diagnosis, which is starting to happen, but you're not for sure that it's going to happen, and you're going to need somebody really thoughtful to have those conversations with them and there and that that doctor is going to have to be invested in following through, or you're not going to get anywhere.
Polly 38:33 And he's not right now, right? Because he's not 100% sure that that's the direction we need to go. Have
Scott Benner 38:40 you explained the value behind the digestion and what it was doing for you? Yes,
Polly 38:44 and no, I don't think it has clicked with him. He's just grateful the yeast infection has gotten compared to where I was even six months ago. It is night and day,
Scott Benner 38:58 yeah, but that's apples and oranges, those two things, don't I mean, I see why he thought they were connected originally, but they're not. We've talked
Polly 39:04 about it, and he's just not. There's so much going on, you know, I've got the Hashimotos and the yeast infection and, oh, you
Scott Benner 39:14 have Hashimotos. Where's your TSH, I don't remember.
Polly 39:16 I'm sorry. Don't be sorry. The last time I had it done, he apparently was very good, because he messaged me saying, This is amazing. We're making progress. And so it was good. Keep pushing till you get it under two, if you can, now that you mentioned a number, I think it was four, yeah, keep
Scott Benner 39:34 pushing it under two. You'll you'll see a reduction in symptoms. I would imagine, if you can get it under two what symptoms of Hashimotos Do you currently have? Well,
Polly 39:45 lately I really have, other than being tired, and you know, the typical stuff, lately, I've been having my throat kind of close up, which is not happy. Hmm, making me happy. That's a new thing. Like, within the last five or six weeks, what's your dose? You know, is it point eight? Eight? No, I want to say point two, five. It's pretty low. Yeah, it
Scott Benner 40:12 should probably be. I mean, this is a good time for me to say probably. I'm not a doctor, and I barely got through high school, but I would think that given like I saw you for a split second when we first started talking. And I don't know your weight or I'm not guessing it, but I don't see how point two five, if point two five is keeping you in the fours, that seems like a low amount. I would think you could handle more
Polly 40:34 from hearing other people talk on the podcast and on the Facebook group. I thought it was low.
Scott Benner 40:40 Yeah, there's a lot of things they could do. They could even just giving you one extra pill, like a month. Sometimes you'd be surprised how good doctors like work through it, but just push for under two, and that'll help. But that's and it could help your digestion a little. I mean, digestion is, I mean, your thyroid does help with digestion, yeah, but it's not crazy to think that you could get some benefit from that. And if, if he wants to go the route of no GLP, I want to handle it through getting your TSH, right, well, then that's fine, but then adjust my TSH, yeah, yeah. And don't take me off a GLP, and then don't adjust my insulin. That's insane. We
Polly 41:19 are, you know, obviously watching the insulin, but I mostly take a Fresa so I can get on it quickly when it does start going up, because since I can't Pre Bolus, oh, that's cool, and I can't do a pump, so it's been very, very helpful up until my last A, 1c which was about six weeks ago. I was 5.40 wonderful, yeah. So between the Fresa and I am a big fan of the sugar pixel on my desk. I know where I stand. And so I can, you know, I can jump on it pretty quickly when the food does start digesting. Yeah. So that's been really nice. And so Mr. My new pa that took me off the ozempic. He left the practice. So once again, I've gotten rid of another PA. You'll like this. Another pa story. So I am prone to UTIs, and I knew I had a UTI, and nobody would do the flipping test, you know, to tell me I had one. One day I knew I just had this raging UTI, and I was at 280 and it took 22 units to bring me down to 150 and I have never taken that much insulin in my life. That's the infection, right? Exactly, yeah. So coincidentally, the hospital called to do an appointment for a test. I was so upset over this high blood sugar that would not move and all this insulin I was taking, I was sure I was killing myself, you know. So this poor girl in the Scheduling Office, Dr so and so could care less if I was laying flat on the floor, and I told her what was going on. She was like, well, that's just not right. And I was like, Well, I can tell you, it's not right, but that's where my life is right now. And she was like, well, we're going to fix that. And I mean, God bless her, I would say, 20 minutes later, I get a call from from the doctor, the MD, and he said, what's going on? And I told him, he's like, he's like, Well, there's a lot going on there. He was like, You should be on more than eight units of basal. He was like, that's just not doing any good. And so he said, We gotta fix this basal. And he said, We gotta fix this UTI. And I was like, Well, yeah, you know, thank you. I would say that was kind of a turning point that was about, that was probably about four months ago, and so we got the basal worked out, and we got the UTI worked out. So I've been flying high since you're getting better,
Scott Benner 44:11 yeah. I mean, it's moving on. It's just so slow for you. Like, it shouldn't take this long to get these things straight. It's just, I mean, do you have a feeling after having been through all this. Like, are there? I know you said you're not the you're not the engineering thinker in your family, but what could have happened to you? I don't usually ask him fistic questions like this, but along the way, I mean, you must have been thinking about this forever. Like, along the way, what would have helped you? Like, What would people need to have done in certain situations that would have been really valuable for you. The gut
Polly 44:43 issues, like I said, just throw a monkey wrench into everything, because, number one, it just makes, makes me feel so bad, and then add public sugars and all that to it. I really don't know, honestly, because you. We are trained to trust doctors, to trust the medical establishment. I've just gotten such bad advice. Yeah,
Scott Benner 45:08 so where have they let you down? Like, looking back now? Like, are there moments where you're like, I was told this and I or have we gone over all of them? Or I'm just trying to figure out if, like, if I'm a doctor, I'm listening to this like, you know, it's gonna be easy to hear this and go, Oh, this is the problem. You know, we're all fractured. There's one doctor does this and one does that, and you've gotta get references and referrals and insurance, and not everybody knows what's happening. And, like, I get all the arguments. But what fixes that for you? Yeah,
Polly 45:35 I don't know. I guess just, you know, I gotta go back to my brother in law, him thinking out about out of the box, you know, what neurologist thinks about, you know, type one. He that's not it shouldn't
Scott Benner 45:50 be out of the box. Thinking it's an out of the box thinking for a neurologist, but not for an end, and not for an endo. Your endo was, like, literally, 100% wrong when you face them.
Polly 46:01 I really can't say, you know, I mean, I guess just, it's shocking, the number of people on, you know, your podcast that are misdiagnosed, it's the norm. It's
Scott Benner 46:13 funny because, can I say, Polly, that people like I'll hear from doctors like you have a lot of episodes where people are being negative about their doctors, and I want to say to them, like, do you think this was my goal? Like, do you think I started up a podcast, and I thought to myself, like, I'll have a lot of conversations about how doctors let people down. I never thought that mine, you know, oddly enough, my doctors were, you know, for Arden, were okay. Like, they weren't great, but I was masking so much of it, I didn't know if they were good or bad to begin with. Like, I wouldn't have known. But if you would have come from my personal experience, I would have been like, oh, the doctors are fine. It's not till they start talking to all like, these two are the people who are reaching out, you know what I mean? Like, and other people who have good doctors hear these episodes, and sometimes they reach out. But if you're listening to this, you're like, Wow, this podcast has a lot of conversations about how doctors are, you know, not doing a good job. Like, this podcast is a problem. Like, I'm not the problem. I'm just, people are just coming on and telling us I didn't know what the hell Polly was gonna say before she got here today. Like, seriously, you know, like, do a better job. Like, I don't know what you want from me as a whole. Like, you know, as a profession,
Polly 47:19 the only thing I can think of, there's just such a prevalence of type two that that's just top of mind. I used to, I think you were too. I was in advertising for a while, you know, and you talk about top of mind awareness, and I think that just type two is what everybody's thinking about type one is, and definitely Lada is, you know, just So way back in everyone's mind that it just falls by the wayside. That shouldn't be the case. Yeah, you know, bodies break down. So, you know, type one is gonna, I mean,
Scott Benner 47:59 it's not like there's a million possibilities for what was wrong with you. You had type one or type two. Like, it's not like they had two choices. There were two choices. Like, why don't we go crazy and pay attention to both of them? I don't know. Like, it just it seems so ridiculous that they can't and listen. I've also had conversations with doctors that, at the end of them, they sway me. And I'm like, All right, well, I see how this happens. And, you know, like, I could probably talk to your doctors and they might say stuff, like, I don't know, Polly's non committal. She's, you know, like, said something and she went with me, or, like, whatever. Like, she didn't fight me, so I thought she didn't, I don't know what they would say, you know, but I'm frustrated by this conversation over and over again. And I think it's possible people think I'm frustrated about diabetes. I'm frustrated about people. Like, that's that's my concern. Like, you think this is about diabetes. It's not. This is about everything. And then, you know, the the example people use all the time, like, you know, 15 years ago, people used to love to say, like, these computers are ruined everything. I went to a cash register and my cashier didn't know what my change was, and people would use that as an example of like society not being able to make decisions about stuff or understanding things well enough to even do their own jobs. But I do think that as automated as everything is getting, it's good. I do think it's good, but at the same time, we're not absolutely, yeah, we're not there yet, and we still need people to think. And I think a lot of people have given up on the thinking part. They're like, Oh, the process takes care of it, or someone in another department does that. I had a conversation this morning. It's nothing to get like, it's not a big that was talking to an advertiser, and they were like, oh, yeah, we got to get that set up. I have to move that to this person. And I'm like, you don't know how to do that part. Like, wow. Like, this is segmented. You know what I mean? Like the guy you hear about siloing, you know what I mean, that's a professional term that, right? But they say that the reason these organizations are so like, organizations. In general are so inept is because everyone's siloed, meaning that they're stuck in this one knowledge spot within the company. They know how to do one thing, and if you ask them to think about the silo next to them, not only can they not think about it, they don't even know what's in that silo. They just like they just know that when I hear that word, bill gets the email, that's it. Nobody understands anything. And now, okay, if it's in advertising, but when it's a physician like Jesus, that's frightening. I was watching something I don't remember what the hell it was, and the host was talking, this is not a show that usually talks about medicine. And the host started talking about, if you think your doctor knows best, you better be careful, check for yourself and and then he used the word, and then he goes, you can have to be your own best advocate. And I was like, Oh, now the wait that got outside of conversations around, like, health stuff, like, now other people are aware of this, so it's into the mainstream. Now, like, you think I'm like, You think I'm talking about wait till the mainstream who doesn't have any compassion for how hard it is to be a doctor or how difficult it is to figure things out, like wait till they get a hold of the fact that people are going to you and getting misdiagnosed for five years, then you're really gonna, you're gonna think you're gonna run back to me and say, Oh, Scott was nice. So I don't know, Polly, the whole thing just, I've been frustrated by it for years, you know, so it's hard for me to talk about without getting upset sometimes. Yeah, anyway, I'm sorry. Was there anything else you want to talk
Polly 51:32 about? I just think it's more manageable now, and I hate it, you know? I was just, I was just telling my husband we were we went to some kind of meeting a couple weeks ago, and they were serving these fruit nectar juices, and they're really tasty. And, you know, I used to drink them when I was a kid. And I said, you know, I can't even think about drinking something like that, because it would just send me sky high. And I said, you know, I have to think about that. I can't just have a juice, you know, yeah, like a normal person,
Scott Benner 52:08 you're not looking to drink a gallon of juice a day, but like you're at a thing, and there's a cup of something there and you feel reminiscent about it, you'd like to be able to take a couple of sips.
Polly 52:16 Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I said, I have to think about, you know, juice. You know, who thinks about juice? And I've never been a juice drinker, but, you know, if I wanted it, I would like to be able to drink it, but I can't. And so that that kind of stuff is frustrating. Listen,
Scott Benner 52:34 my only my daughter has diabetes, and we were away somewhere and someone had lemonade. I love lemonade, right? But this was, like, full on sugar made from lemons, lemonade. And I got a glass of it, and I got about halfway through it, and I thought, oh, I should
Polly 52:49 stop drinking this. Yeah, my husband's the same way, yeah. So I just put it down. He loves, like, that lemonade slushy stuff, and he'll drink, you know, maybe two sips of it, and he's like, my eyes are fuzzy because of the sugar. You know,
Scott Benner 53:04 we all live like, well, not everybody, but like, I limit sugar pretty significantly for me. And yeah, you have a little bit. And you're like, you're like, oh my god, is this what cocaine is like? Meanwhile, people who have done cocaine are like, no,
Polly 53:19 but we're all cheap drunks. But yeah, yeah, exactly.
Scott Benner 53:23 I would be a very, very cheap date, for sure. I'd be like, I'd have a half a beer and I'd be buzzing around. So, yeah, anyway, but I take your point, like, it's just it sucks. It's not something you want to be doing. Just because you're doing well at it doesn't mean it's fun, that's for sure. Yeah,
Polly 53:38 you know, when you add all of it, the Hashimotos and the diabetes and the gut thing, and I know you're a big advocate for glps right now, and I do see now that I'm off of it, I can see that there's a lot less consistency because that which is interesting. You know, I don't know enough about it. You've probably studied it a lot more than I have, but it just seems to be a lot less consistent right now than
Scott Benner 54:07 study is a strong word, Polly, but I am trying to pay attention to it, because I really believe, after what I've saw with Arden, I'm like, Man, this is really something like, there's a lot here to be learned. You know, Arden was at at the lowest dose of Manjaro, two and a quarter. What is the lowest dose of Manjaro? Hold on a second. I should probably also learn how to pronounce it at some point. But I honestly don't care Manjaro, but 2.5 milligrams, right? Is the start. Is the starting lowest dose. That's all. Arden was using 2.5 a week. But she got to the point where she was, we were like, uh, you look too thin. So how do you balance all the value you're getting, insulin use, insulin sensitivity, you know, her acne cleared up, like, all this stuff, like, right? Like, there's a lot going on here that is clear about it to me, is clear it's impacting insulin resistance. And, you know, probably a 10. 20% reduction in her insulin use. But she's like, that. I'm like, I'm never hungry, and so she's making herself eat. And you know, she's like, I, you know, I'd like to be hungry once in a while. I'm like, yeah, right on. Like, I'm not looking for you to, like, lose she lost some weight, which was fine, but then she lost some more, and we were like, oh. And she got to the point where we were like, you gotta put like, seven pounds on here. And so we got the weight back on her, which wasn't hard, but we did it by taking her just off the mantra no for a week or two or for a month, and she put the weight back on and but Jesus, like her insulin needs went crazy again. And I was like, All right, so now we're dosing it. By the way, sometimes I say stuff on here. I'm like, I don't know if I don't know if I should be saying this or not, but I'm not a doctor. This isn't advice. You shouldn't be doing this, etc and so on. Use drugs the way they're meant to be used. We're injecting the pen into a new, clean vial and then drawing it out with an insulin needle. And we started by giving her half of it. So if she was 2.5 it's what, 1.25 and that wasn't enough and that, but that was basically about 15 units in an insulin pen. So this week, I texted her and I said, hey, when you inject the Manjaro this week, do 18 units like we're gonna move up slowly, and because we're trying to find the balance between impact on her insulin stability, for her digestion and for her blood sugars, and still being able to eat. And I we're very hopeful we're going to find it. I see the difference this week, and I think next week we'll move up a little more and then find that balance between being able to eat and getting the good impacts for the rest of the stuff. So my expectation is, once it gets wider used by type ones, they're going to have to put it into a vial and then let you talk to your doctor about dosing, instead of just saying, like, here's the because these are all set up for here's your starter dose, here's your move up, your move up, your move up. And we got to get you up to this big dose in order for it to really work for you, if you're really trying to lose a lot of weight and everything, but what if you're not trying to lose a lot of weight? There's still a ton of like value here. Anyway, I just went on for a while, but that's what I think about it at
Polly 57:11 the moment. It didn't affect my appetite. It didn't completely take my appetite away, but at four o'clock, it was as if a switch was turned on turned off, and the thought of food was the last thing on my mind. And so from like four to like 10 o'clock the next morning, I would not want to eat. It was the craziest thing. Oh,
Scott Benner 57:38 it hit you times a day. That's interesting. Yeah, it was crazy. Today is my injection day, and I don't have the I have to go to the pharmacy today to pick it up, right? And I woke up this morning and I was standing in here, like, like, planning my day out. And I was like, Man, am I hungry. Like, I haven't felt hungry like this. And I was like, oh, in about a week, it's really crazy how it hits different people different ways the injection
Polly 58:02 day. Yes, I would be hungry on the injection day. Yeah, it was. It was crazy, well, but which makes sense?
Scott Benner 58:11 Yeah, I know more and more people, they're calling it micro dosing, but they're they're basically finding their own dose of it, and it's gonna get popular, like people are gonna have success with it, and start talking about it, and then it's gonna, it's gonna make its way out. I know some people are shooting tiny bits of it every day. Some people are doing what we're doing with Arden, which is once a week, but less, like, you know, it's gonna find its footing. And then, you know, I tried
Polly 58:34 the the smaller amounts, like two or three times a week, and it didn't make a huge difference, not enough of an impact. Yeah, it wasn't worth the
Scott Benner 58:44 effort. Well, for Arden, Arden's like, I'm not injecting every day, just so, you know. And I was like, okay, like, she's like, that's just not happening. So I was like, gotcha. So that's why we're, we're trying to find a balance here. And I don't, I don't know, like, I've just, all I can tell you is it's not for everybody. Or some people are gonna have like side effects that they're just gonna be like, this isn't worth it to me, or they just can't do it. But you're gonna hear about more and more people who are finding value with it too. So we'll see what happens. What else? Anything else are we good? I think that's enough. Done it. Yeah, Polly, I love that attitude. I think that's enough. I like how earlier you said I'm Christian, so I know I don't know everything. And I thought, I'm not Christian. I don't I know too. How did she find out? Can I ask one question, though, before we go, sure if your family's brains work in like an engineering way, how do you describe how yours works all
Polly 59:41 over the place, just, I see everything, not but not details. I'm not a detail person. Big picture.
Scott Benner 59:51 You see big picture. Stuff, really big picture. Yeah, you know how things impacted something else, but you don't like you see that it impacts it. You know for sure. Or it does, but you're not sure the mechanism. It just does, yeah, yeah, artistic, are you artistic? I'm not particularly,
Polly 1:00:08 I've been told I have artistic brain, but I'm not an artistic person, like I like to cook and make things. Make, yeah, not really, but I mean cooking is probably, cooking is probably my thing. Cooking is probably my outlet. You know,
Scott Benner 1:00:24 Paul, you have no you have no ego. When you're talking about yourself. It's very nice.
Polly 1:00:30 Well, I don't, it doesn't do any good. You're just like,
Scott Benner 1:00:33 I don't know anything about that. Some people would be like, Oh no, I've, you know what? No, not really. It's excellent. Now, how many kids do you have? Two? Do they have any auto immune issues? I
Polly 1:00:46 think my daughter does. We had her thyroid tested because she was just sick right after she started college. Two years ago, she was just exhausted, and so that was my first thought. But it came back No. I mean, not even close to problem my son. We did the type one test for him, and he came back clear.
Scott Benner 1:01:10 Okay. Does your daughter have any of your digestion issues? No, no, okay.
Polly 1:01:15 My endocrinologist is pretty convinced this was an acquired thing that, and then the high blood sugars fed it that, somehow I got this yeast infection, and then the sugar just fed it for so long, I meant
Scott Benner 1:01:32 more about the speed of your digestion, because, is that possible? She's not picking up nutrients. Maybe
Polly 1:01:38 we had that thought, but she's, I think she had just run herself down. Both my kids were home schooled, and we did a dual enrollment program at a community college, and so she was pretty young, and she was taking college classes, and she got involved in student government and all of that. I think she was just running herself, ragging the
Scott Benner 1:02:00 candle at both ends. Yeah,
Polly 1:02:01 yep, absolutely, gotcha. So she's doing much better as far as energy and all that. So I don't think it's that. My gut tells me it's not a health issue. So our daughters are the same age. Then Arden's 20. Mine just turned 1818, oh, oh,
Scott Benner 1:02:19 but she's in college two years. Yep, she started when she was 15, and I think that I didn't account for Okay, gotcha. Yeah, yeah, interesting. Okay. Well, I really appreciate you taking the time to do this and adding your voice to the podcast. It's been fantastic getting to know you. I really do appreciate your time. Thank you. Oh,
Polly 1:02:38 thank you. Thanks for all you do. Oh, that's nice.
Scott Benner 1:02:41 You're welcome. Would this go the way you expected?
Polly 1:02:45 Yeah, good. Pretty much. You're You're good at what you do. Thank
Scott Benner 1:02:49 you. Yeah, you are. I know I am. I just, I tried to sound humble. It didn't work. I'm just teasing now. I'm just being funny. And I know people like he's not being funny, he I know I'm pretty good at this, but I've gotten a lot better at it over time, which makes me think there's another ceiling that I'm just not aware of. So I'm trying to keep I'm trying to keep going and getting better at it. So we'll see doing my best here. So I appreciate you very much. Hold on one second for me. Okay, a huge thanks to Omnipod, not just my longest sponsor, but my first one. Omnipod.com/juicebox if you love the podcast and you love tubeless insulin pumps, this link is for you. Omnipod.com/juice, box. Dexcom sponsored this episode of the juice box podcast. Learn more about the Dexcom g7 at my link. Dexcom.com/juice, box. Earlier you heard me talking about blue circle health, the free virtual type one diabetes care, education and support program for adults. And I know it sounds too good to be true, but I swear it's real. Thanks to funding from a big T 1d philanthropy group, blue circle health doesn't bill your insurance or charge you a cent. In other words, it's free. They can help you with things like carb counting, insurance navigation, diabetes technology, insulin adjustments, peer support, Prescription Assistance and much more. So, if you're tired of waiting nine months to get in with your endo or your educator, you can get an appointment with their team within one to two weeks. This program is showing what T 1d care can and should look like. Blue circle health is currently available in Florida, Maine, Vermont, Ohio, Delaware, Alabama and Missouri. If you live in one of those states, go to blue circle health.org to sign up today. The link is in the show notes, and please help me to spread the word blue circle health had to buy an ad because people don't believe that it's free, but it is. They're trying to give you free care if you live in four. Florida, Maine, Vermont, Ohio, Delaware, Alabama and Missouri. It's ready to go right now. And like I said, they're adding states so quickly in 2025 that you want to follow them on social media at Blue circle health, and you can also keep checking bluecircle health.org to see when your free care is available to you. Thank you so much for listening. I'll be back very soon with another episode of The Juicebox Podcast. If you're not already subscribed or following the podcast in your favorite audio app, like Spotify or Apple podcasts, please do that now. Seriously, just to hit follow or subscribe will really help the show. If you go a little further in Apple podcast and set it up so that it downloads all new episodes, I'll be your best friend, and if you leave a five star review, ooh, I'll probably send you a Christmas card. Would you like a Christmas card? The episode you just heard was professionally edited by wrong way recording, wrong way recording.com, you.
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