#594 Rachel is not Quincy

December 14, 2021Scott Benner

Rachel is an adult living with type 1 diabetes.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends and welcome to episode 594 of the Juicebox Podcast.

today's podcast features Rachel, her husband has actually been on the show already, but she's the type one intriguing isn't it? While you're listening today, I'd like you to remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise. Always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan are becoming bold with insulin. If you're looking for the diabetes Pro Tip series begins at episode 210 In your podcast player, where you can find it at juicebox podcast.com and diabetes pro tip.com.

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Rachel 2:01
So my name is Rachel. I am 26 years old. I live in the US and South Carolina. I've been living with type one for seven years now. And my husband has also been on the podcast

Scott Benner 2:15
he has been now you ready for the fun story? Sure. So we met at the Georgia JDRF conference. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Okay. And then later through emails and everything. We booked Quincy to be on the show your husband, except for the entirety of the time after the booking up until a person's voice appeared on the recording. When I was like Hello. And Quincy said hello. I thought you were Quincy.

Rachel 2:52
That's a weird. And what do you think that just his name or

Scott Benner 2:56
it was just the name? I just didn't I meet a lot of people at those things. And so I don't know why Quincy just I was like, oh, Quincy. I mean, you have type one and he doesn't. Right. Right. And, and you were very, may I say I put words in your mouth. You were really excited to meet me. So totally was you can say that. Okay. Okay. So I just kind of thought, wow, she must be the one that wants to come on the pocket. And

Rachel 3:24
well, funny side of that story, from my perspective, is that, so I think you said something about, like, oh, it'd be interesting to get your perspective, you know, being married to somebody who has type one or whatever. And a lot of guys don't come on the show. And so that's why it made sense. But we walked away from that. And I looked at Quincy, and he was like, Are you mad that he asked me to come on the show? And I was like, You are so ridiculous. He gets it. He's one of those people. Like you can do any sort of game and get it perfect on the first try. Like these things just fall into his lap. And so I was just teasing him the whole time. And he was like, don't be mad. Well, funny.

Scott Benner 4:02
If it brings you any comfort. None of that's on purpose. For my part. I think people I think people who listen long enough realize like, wow, this doesn't seem at all odd that this happened. So I yeah, I so he pops on. And you know, man's voice. And I'm like, That's not her. And then my brain. Although it was not smart enough to coordinate the entire thing. My brain was quick enough to stop myself from going, Hey, yo, you're not a girl. I just, I just, I was like, hey, and he, you know, I said, How are you Quincy? And he said, good. And I went, Okay, let's definitely him then. And I just, I pivoted on a dime. And then that's why when I got done, I said, Hey, I'd really like to have your wife at some point.

Rachel 4:54
I'm here to set the record straight. Please.

Scott Benner 4:57
Please let him find this out. listening to this recording?

Unknown Speaker 5:01
I totally okay,

Scott Benner 5:02
thank you. I appreciate that because you know, it's not gonna go on for months. It'll be like a year after he was on. And he'll hear this. And by the way, hey, Quincy, what's up? You have a girl's name kind of I don't know. It's not a girl's name is it?

Rachel 5:15
He's heard everything with his name. Honestly, it's not that I've ever heard but people say all sorts of things when they find out his name.

Scott Benner 5:22
Allow me also to save for the 2021 millennial crowd. I know there are no girls and boys names, and anybody can be named anything. And by the way, my daughter is named Arden. And that is heavily weighted as a male name. So

Rachel 5:36
I'm really I had never heard it prior to listening to the show. And I really love

Scott Benner 5:39
it. Thank you. There are not many of them. When we named her there were slightly over 9000 people named Arden in the country. And I think 60% of them were men, something like that. And just for everybody's context, Quincy was on episode 410. And it's called Best hug. Yes. And I don't remember why.

Rachel 6:03
But because I think it was because I gave you a hug. And you were like, it seemed like she was hugging me because I had like, really impacted her life where she just gave like a really good hug.

Scott Benner 6:15
Oh, yeah. I don't remember why. So there's that's interesting, too. For everyone out there. I don't know. Have you ever had a woman who's somebody else's wife hug you in public in front of the husband? But unless you've got that, that cold vibe, it feels very strange. I

Rachel 6:31
see, like, was totally, he was like, No, this makes absolute sense. Because I mean, the show really helped both of us. So he was like, Nah, that's fine.

Scott Benner 6:38
It's very cool. And I'm super happy you're here. And let us not talk of him ever again. Unless he comes up in the course of the conversation. Anyway, I was just five minutes ago explaining this to my wife. She's downstairs working. And if you could have solved like the abject disappointment on her face, that she married a guy who couldn't figure out who's who had a conversation.

Rachel 7:03
Now we get to pretend like it was completely on purpose. And when people listen to this, it'll just be full circle. Oh, that that guy's wife. Cool.

Scott Benner 7:09
I looked at Kelly and I was like, Listen, this is what it's like being in my head. I find it freeing. Don't judge me. Anyway, I was proud of myself back then for how quickly I was just like, okay, and just went right with it. And we had a great conversation after that. So

Rachel 7:28
yeah, I was really proud of him. When I listened to it. I was like, well, could you?

Scott Benner 7:31
Well, this is interesting. What was it like to hear your husband talk about your diabetes? away from you?

Rachel 7:40
It was really at first I was nervous. I was like, What is he gonna say? But then when I listened it was really sweet. Like to hear it from his perspective without me there like him feeling like he had to say a certain thing, you know?

Scott Benner 7:52
Yeah, that was really sweet. You were comforted by that it wasn't off.

Rachel 7:57
No, it made me laugh, like, because both of our perspectives has just changed so drastically even since we got married. And so it was cool to hear him talk about the evolution of his thoughts around type one. And in relation to me,

Scott Benner 8:11
Well, how did your perspective how has your perspective changed?

Rachel 8:14
Oh, my goodness, where do I even start, like I saw I was diagnosed at 19. So I was already kind of, you know, a whole person living my life one way prior to getting diagnosed. It just the way in which I came to know type one, it was just I mean, like most people, the hospital just didn't do a great job explaining that you can even be successful with type one. And so the show when I found it, I had already been so beaten down with like trying my best using hospital methods. You know, no Pre-Bolus saying you don't touch your Basal right. So you don't do anything yourself, your ended at all kind of thing. I had been so beaten down because I'm not a person that, you know, just rolls over. Like I had tried really, really hard to like make it work to have good numbers. But I kept coming up with this frustrating, you know, spike with every meal and then a crash later because I had no idea about Pre-Bolus thing. And so, I was so tired of diabetes, like when I found the show. And someone told me about it. And they were like, Yeah, this guy. He talks about his daughter's diabetes and how he manages it and she is like normal agencies. And I laughed. I was like, That's not real. That's like, and then almost there was like this anxiety in me because I was like, what if that is real? And what if I've been doing it wrong? Like what if there's a new way?

Scott Benner 9:46
I'm fascinated by that space in that thought right there. I bring it up. I think more than I should when I'm talking but that idea of you've been doing something for so long in one way and Your results aren't great. That changing is almost too painful. Because then it's some sort of like, like, Yeah, well, you're this bright light on what you were doing before and how it wasn't working. Yeah, that part fascinates me. And then trying again and learning something new. I know how difficult that is. Because a lot of people tell me wrapped around diabetes. I actually just yesterday was talking to someone who, who, I guess works at Omnipod. I guess I can say that. And they were talking about some campaigns that they're going to do this year. And I they were getting my input about what I thought of them. And I said the this exact thing I said, I think you're missing, that it is incredibly difficult for a person to take something that they feel like they understand even if it's not working, as well for them as they want it to at least they understand it, and ask them to relearn something. I was like, I think there's much more of a leap in there than you than you think.

Rachel 11:07
Yeah, I totally agree. So I Yeah. And it was hard to like relearn what I had already thought was impossible to do. So when I found the show, that's kind of the mindset that I was in, like, diabetes is impossible. I try and I try. And I pretty much at that point was just I was on Omni pod. So at least I was on a pump. But I was just using, you know, test strips. I couldn't didn't use Dexcom. Right, because it was too stressful for me to see the chaos going on when I had no way to control it. Understand that I didn't understand how to make it better.

Scott Benner 11:43
Yeah, no, I understand that. Well, out of sight out of mind is better than Yeah, look, you're messing it up.

Rachel 11:48
Exactly. So like occasional testing to be like, well, yep, still sucks. Cool. And then like moving on, you know, it was better for me than seeing the Dexcom graph where I was just constantly, you know, woken up by alarms and annoyed by it. And I couldn't do anything to make it different. So the show, I think the very first episode I listened to I know, I know, it was it was Jen had a pain Korea tech dummy or whatever it is where they removed the pancreas.

Scott Benner 12:14
Yeah. Yeah, remember that one?

Rachel 12:17
Yeah. Also, apologies to my dog. I can hear her.

Scott Benner 12:20
That's fine. I mean, it's not being eaten by like a coyote or something. Right?

Rachel 12:24
No, she's just a puppy and really hates being alone. We just got her recently. So that's been a fun journey.

Scott Benner 12:29
Yeah, starting to make all the mistakes. Great.

Rachel 12:33
I know we got a dog. But anyway, I listened to that episode. And then I was like, Okay, this is interesting. And then I found the bold with insulin episode. And of course, that's the one where you talk about the methodology, just kind of behind all of this. And I was like, what? This is a thing like, I'm gonna try this. And so it changed my perspective about the ability to like when

Scott Benner 12:56
I'm glad, that's amazing. interesting side note, that episode that you heard first was going to have a completely different and weird title. And Jen, Jen stopped me. She's one of the only people that has ever been like, No, you can't name my episode that she just, she's strong armed me and I was like, okay, and I felt like we were married. I was like, I'll do it. I'll fix it. I'm sorry. Enter, I want to say she was right. I picked something ridiculous. But she had a kind of a southern sensibility and it rubbed her the wrong way. And I was like, okay, like, I'll don't worry about it. She was so insistent. There's I could not have said no, she's like, well, what if we just call it something like what it is? And I was like, alright, well, then,

Rachel 13:38
after everything she had been through, I feel like that makes sense. 100% She

Scott Benner 13:41
gets a pass right away. Crazy story, you know? But then you found episode 11. So did you go through some sort of social media to make that leap? Or did you how did you figure that out?

Rachel 13:52
I'm trying to remember how I figured I think I just started scrolling and then oh, I know what it was. It was where you recap episodes that were important on the podcast. It's like where you went back? I think it maybe was for the 100th episode. Oh, I

Scott Benner 14:05
revisit I listened. Oh, I did. Basically that's,

Rachel 14:08
you talked over old episodes. Because of

Scott Benner 14:11
my laser disc days, I did a director's cut of why we used to watch movies on you don't know about any of this. You're fairly young. But movies used to come on these record size discs called Laser discs. And there was so much storage room on them. That director started watching their movies and telling you what they were thinking while they were making them. So instead of the audio from the movie plan, you'd hear the Director's Cut, you'd hear the director talking. And so for my 100th episode, I listened to bowled with insulin. And then so you know, you would hear it, I would be listening. And then I would stop and sort of like, add addendums to it or like, Oh, I didn't realize this. Yeah, here's how I think about it. Now you found that one?

Rachel 14:51
Yes, I found that one and you're talking over it. To be honest, kind of annoyed me a little bit. I was like, Wait, what is the original episode and so finally I was like, Okay, I'm going back. I'm going back. And I listened to that one. And then I started from the very beginning,

Scott Benner 15:07
being annoying is my signature move. I'm sorry. Oh, no, no, I think I get a lot of really wonderful reviews. But the only one that sticks in my head. So funny and weird. Like, I seriously, they're so touching, I want to just say I read them. And I'm like, almost brought to tears by many, many of them. But the only one that I can pretty much recite verbatim is I love this podcast and hate that guy. And it just makes me so happy because it means that the information is so valuable, that even though she I'm just assuming she really really really didn't like me, she had to listen anyway. And by the way, if that person still listening, I think of you constantly and Haha, so.

Rachel 15:56
So it's just such a new concept. And so you interrupting it was like, wait, no, what was he originally trying to say? I should just be smart and go listen to the original. Cool.

Scott Benner 16:05
So I tricked you. I got two downloads. Now. I have to say in honesty. You hugged me like we were in a movie. You know what I mean? Like I was waiting for the camera to like, pan around so it could get your face in my face. And the same thing and, and there's that moment where. So if you could try to understand that day, I get up early in the morning, I get dressed, I come downstairs I'm you know, moving about I meet Jenny for the very first time in person that day. Just remember that that's cool. And then, you know, I'm up on stage, I think for an hour or so. And then there's a very short break. And Jenny comes into the room and we do another hour together. And then it turns into a meet and greet which I don't know, were you in the other rooms right? For other stuff.

Rachel 16:58
I have seen one of your I think I saw the first talk you did because it was just bolt with insulin. And then we went to one of Jenny's and then we came to the one where you guys talk together. And after that we came up.

Scott Benner 17:10
Did you do any after me?

Rachel 17:14
I think so because they had Eric Tozer I think it was

Scott Benner 17:18
I wish you wouldn't have said his name. Because I was gonna say Do you notice how there's no meet and greets after most of them. So that's a weird thing. Because when I get done, then there's a line of people. And

Rachel 17:30
remember what was after it honestly, I can remember like, what,

Scott Benner 17:33
that's fine. Eric probably doesn't listen, and he's a nice guy. Don't worry about he'd be fine with this. We're not talking about him. He understands the flow of conversation. But my point is only that, like after a couple of hours of talking. You're mentally exhausted in a way that if you don't do that you don't realize that I'm not reciting anything. I'm just going off my head. And then you start talking to people. And many of them are trying to tell you how important the podcast is to them. And it's it's tough, like it's tough to stay. It's not tough to stay in the moment. But it's tough to remember everything. You stopped it for me like you hugged me and I thought, like I felt it, not the hug. I felt like oh, I've I think I maybe have helped this person. Like you don't mean like it felt really good. What What's the relief for you? Because you traveled to be there? Why did you do that?

Rachel 18:24
Yeah, that was actually our first type one event ever. And I came to it because I heard that you and Jenny, were gonna be there. And again, like my husband, I were just shifting the way in which we talked about type one together how we thought about it, we were like, You know what, this would be good to do. Let's go. It's closer. Like, let's go do it. So we came, I guess to see you guys, you know, and to meet because at that time, too. I was. And I still am working with Jenny. And so I was going to meet her in person. And I did and so it was really sweet to like meet both of you that day. Oh, that's

Scott Benner 18:57
cool. Were you in but Were you there when I did the like how far people had come really long distances to be at that.

Rachel 19:04
That was insane. I can't remember the farthest one but I remember being shocked. Yeah.

Scott Benner 19:07
Do you remember thinking wow, it wasn't me.

Rachel 19:11
I know. It was just like, wow, people like really care about these things.

Scott Benner 19:16
Well, that's sweet. I think it was me but I mean, I it was you. I seriously I think we can go to other JDRF events. They How far did people come? And no one's gonna say, well, we've been driving for there were people who were driving for like, six hours. Like, am I remembering that right? Like some crazy. Yeah,

Rachel 19:32
I mean, everyone we talked to like, just in passing. They were like, Yeah, we're here for the Juicebox Podcast.

Scott Benner 19:38
They were there for Jenny. They were just trying to make me feel better, I think.

Rachel 19:41
No, I don't know. It was it was funny. They're like, No, we're just boxers. I was like, oh, that's the thing. Okay,

Scott Benner 19:46
I didn't know that either. By the way until someone told me I was like, yeah, now there's a t shirt now that I know it.

Rachel 19:54
So I think it just the relief for me was just in. Like I said feeling like a failure for so long is really hard. Like, in being a person who really wants to do well, you know, despite getting a diagnosis that is very, very challenging, and spending the first five years just like, in a daze, like trying as hard as possible, and not coming up with, like results that I wanted, and being so, so confused that whenever I found your podcast and like, use the principles, and it started to work, and my a one C lowered, and my time and range increased, and my life was more full, because I wasn't panicking about like, you know, what was happening to my body while it wasn't being taken care of. I mean, yeah, that's like all the relief you'll ever need. It's just like, you see the person that, you know, helped contribute to that. And you're just like, oh, my gosh, thank you like,

Scott Benner 20:51
yeah, no, it was lovely. It really was I was touched, I was really touched by it. I mean, not touched enough to remember that, you know, your Rachel and Quincy, but I'm joking. It was just, it's a lot. And then I have to get on a plane. And by the way, at that point, it was a little bit of that, like, hey, you know, people are starting to get sick all over the world vibe going on. So

Rachel 21:09
that was the last thing we went to like the last in person, like large event? Yeah,

Scott Benner 21:15
sure. No, no, I remember feeling like I maybe shouldn't be here. Like when it was happening, although, you know, there's this thing that happened yesterday, on the pod made me the potter of the month, I think it's just so cool that that's all a social media thing that they do, which is nice. But they would, and I don't want to just, first of all, I don't want to breeze over it. Because I am really touched. Because I don't have diabetes, I thought it was a really wonderful gift for them to say that. But my point of bringing it up wasn't just to point out that it happened, although I'll take that. It was that somebody in I was very careful to read all of the comments. And there were more than 200 of them so far. And one of the people said that they were like last and went to the conference in Georgia. So there's a person in that room who then I mean, now it's a year or so later, who I just noticed for the very first time because of the potter of the month thing like I never would have known that person story. They were just in that room. And I guess I said something that made sense to them and to change things for them. So it's very cool. Awesome. Yeah. So I want to know a little bit about fit. Like you said, you felt like a failure. So were you trying really hard and nothing was working? Where did you eventually just give up enough. And that's why it wasn't working.

Rachel 22:48
I was trying really hard and nothing was working. I've never been the type of person. I mean, granted test strip testing, like we said, isn't very involved. But I've never been the person to just give up even in burnout. Like, that's just not something I do. It's more of an emotional drag. For me when I'm in burnout, like, I'll care for myself, but I'm like pissed that I have to care for myself, like, kind of thing. So I was trying really hard. And I mean, it's just the similar story. Many people say like when when your care team doesn't have type one, they care about you. They want you you know, most of them do anyway, they want to help you. But what can three month gap appointments do for you, when they don't empower you to like make your own changes when it's like a daily disease like, and they weren't talking about Pre-Bolus Singh, I had no idea how to adjust my Basal rates, like I would do it in the doctor's office, like she would show me what to do, but she would tell me what to change them to. And I had no no concept of why. So it made me feel reliant on them. And also, I didn't trust them because I still had crappy blood sugars. So it was like, such such a like, weird little trap that I felt like I was in.

Scott Benner 24:05
So they're telling you listen, we're the only ones that can do this. And they they weren't particularly good at it.

Rachel 24:12
Yeah, and I would try like, I mean, I I truly like I haven't had a doctor that I look back and go wow, they were awful. That's not the case. It's just with the information available. And with again, I mean they have the luxury of not having type one they don't get it like as much as those of us who have it do. They would just give me the bare basic information in I would come in I would even try to schedule at first like more than three months appointments and that's typical like I guess when you're first diagnosed, but even a few months past that. I was trying my hardest to understand I would walk in there I would have my you know, log book or whatever. That's hilarious. I don't even know what those are at this point but the You know, I was trying so hard, and they would just look at me so confused, like, why I wasn't accepting that this is the way that it is.

Scott Benner 25:09
So you were you were not the way you were kind of the problem, right? Because there's a way they do it.

Rachel 25:14
And yeah, they're just like, No, this is normal, this is fine. It's fine. If you go to 220, after a meal, it's completely fine. And I was like, Well, I don't feel fine. They're like, well, this is how it is.

Scott Benner 25:24
I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna say this here. And I said, on an episode I recorded the other day, if you're a healthcare professional, and you're telling people that, I believe that is malpractice And shame on you,

Rachel 25:35
it's frustrating. And it's like the doctor that I know, would never want less care for their kids, you know, like in any other circumstance, but they're taught to believe that it's okay. It's not that they are lying. It's that that's what they're taught to,

Scott Benner 25:54
but you don't think that's what they would do in their own personal life? Say what you don't believe that's what they would do in their personal life?

Rachel 26:00
I don't think so. It's like if they knew if they could have a child that had it and see how that child felt at 220, you know, after a meal, they would question it, too. Yeah.

Scott Benner 26:10
Okay. Okay, so you i following I at first thought you were saying that they are telling you one thing, but would do another. You're saying if they saw it close up? They would know that wasn't the case.

Rachel 26:21
Yeah. They're just taught in the medical community. I think that like, well, this is the best we can do. Yeah. Because like me, I mean, they just think well, this is how it is, right? Well, it's not. You want to be careful.

Scott Benner 26:33
I'm super glad that you found the podcast. I like you a lot. You have such a great vibe about you. Thanks. I don't I just there's something really just lovely about you. It's why I was so disappointed when Quincy was your husband.

Rachel 26:45
You're like, it's not. But I wanted

Scott Benner 26:47
the other one. I thought he ended up being terrific. By the way on the podcast. He really was good.

Rachel 26:55
He is so well spoken. He always surprises me. I when we go to social events. I'm pretty social, but I let him step forward. I'm like you, you take it.

Scott Benner 27:06
You chew up this chit chat. I don't feel like doing this anyway.

Rachel 27:10
Actually, whenever we were going to talk to you. He was like, Okay, we got to go meet Scott. Like, do you want to do that? And I was like, Yeah, and we go, and then also, I got so nervous. And I was like, No, I'm just another one of these people. He has so many people around him. I'm like, so spatially weird. I don't like bothering people. And so I started getting nervous. I was like, no, maybe we won't. And he was like, Rachel, we drove all this way. You have to open it's like, okay,

Scott Benner 27:37
well, I'm very glad he did. And it was it's no bother. I enjoy meeting everybody. It's just hard to keep it all in your head athletes. You know that that's pretty much the only thing. But no, the experience is is amazing. It's it's, it's really touching to hear from people. And it's sometimes they say something, and you're like, Oh, that's a good point. You know what I mean? Like, I never thought that I've also met a couple of people who are like, you know, strange in a good way. And that's fun, you know. And so there's a there's a lot that goes on. Mostly, I think, I think a lot of people that are in the rooms that don't know what to expect when I'm talking I think they leave a little like, like, I don't know, they may be dumbstruck or all inspired or something I'm not certain, but they walk out you can see them just kind of looking in the back of their head and thinking to themselves, like, this isn't anything that anybody's told me so far.

Rachel 28:31
That's what I'm saying. I'm willing to bet it's the same, you know, realization that washed over me when my friend told me about the podcast, it's like, Wait, there's another way?

Scott Benner 28:40
Yeah, you can see them nodding along when you're talking. Like, like, you'll say, like, have you ever noticed, you know, whatever. And they go, Oh, my God. Yeah. Like you can see on their faces like that, that thought?

Rachel 28:51
Yeah, like, especially when you do real life examples, and you show a graph and you're like, has this ever happened to anybody? And everyone's like, Well, yeah, like, and you're like, it doesn't work to do it the way you know. And you say, you say it better than your doctors don't know what they're talking about. But you know, I'm super polite. Yeah, it doesn't work, you know, to do it the traditional way. And everyone starts being like, they admit to it, like, No, it doesn't work.

Scott Benner 29:15
Oh, Lady said to me one time she goes, you said, Does this ever happen to you? And she said, I thought, yes, every three and a half hours.

Rachel 29:22
Yes. I mean, truly, like, I go back and I'm like, you know, no wonder like, I would Bolus as soon as I put food in my mouth. No wonder I would go high as a kite and then crash down later and just be like, well, let's do it again. It's lunch now. Like, it's ridiculous.

Scott Benner 29:41
How long did it take you to pull it all together?

Rachel 29:43
Really five years, I swear, like, I mean, I found the podcast 2019 Like towards the end. And so it was like, because I remember it was Thanksgiving. And we were headed home. We have like a three hour drive to get to where Are our immediate family. Some of them are. And so, the friend had told me it was a friend's husband who was actually asking me what being on Omni pod was like, because he was about to switch pumps. And he was camera which one he was using, but I am like, Omni Potter die like, yeah, you would have to pry that out of my cold dead hands like for me to switch pumps. But anyway, you can put the Omni pot out here

Scott Benner 30:36
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Rachel 33:26
all dead hands like for me to switch pumps. But anyway, he was talking to me about it. And I was telling him and then at the end he was like, you know, you sound like somebody who would be interested in this podcast I listened to you told me about it. I laughed and was like, No way. And then I told it. I told Quincy about it. And he was the one that was like, Wait, we have a long drive like see, like, Let's listen. Let's see if it helps. Yeah, really Quincy is like a big part of this.

Scott Benner 33:55
Yeah. Well, he's he's a he's my hero in this scenario, that's for sure. I mean it because I can't imagine like I really I don't have context for being an adult with type one being approached by another adult with type one and being told you should listen to a third person who gets what doesn't have diabetes at all. Isn't a doctor and it's going to help you with your blood sugar and you I can't imagine not thinking that can't be right.

Rachel 34:26
I definitely was sketched out a little bit. I was like it's a podcast.

Scott Benner 34:30
You can't step on that dog. It's this dog. No, don't don't say that on the podcast. She's joking. People love animals don't say that. She would never hurt the puppy. Tell people you would never hurt the puppy.

Rachel 34:42
But this puppy this puppy literally has everything it could possibly need.

Scott Benner 34:46
What's a puppy? I mean, the puppy it's got water and like food. I think it has everything it possibly needs, right?

Rachel 34:52
It really has everything it possibly needs.

Scott Benner 34:54
It doesn't have your attention though. Apparently.

Rachel 34:57
If it's okay with you. I might go stick her in the garage so she does Thank you, Wally.

Scott Benner 35:00
Let's say the soft, beautiful room that you put the dogs in.

Rachel 35:05
Okay. Okay. Insulated room that also has everything

Scott Benner 35:09
she needs temperature controlled room. Go ahead. I'll stay here and keep myself busy. Sorry. I'll be right back. Oh, you're fine. Do you guys remember that time I left the couple alone to go help Arden with a Bolus and they played music? Wasn't that crazy? Did you hear that? No, no. What? I have no idea what episode it was her I would tell you. There are too many episodes now. I can't remember anything. Do you think she's gonna kill that dog just to be on the podcast? She wouldn't. The dogs fine. No one worry. No dogs are harmed, as far as I know, in the making of this podcast episode. But let me tell you about Omni pod. The Omni pod tubeless insulin pump, I'm going to do an ad off top my head until she gets back. The Omni pod tubeless insulin pump is amazing. You actually right now may be eligible for a free 30 day trial of the Omni pod dash, you'd find that out by going to Omni pod.com forward slash juice box. Now you can type that URL into your browser or get it right there in your podcast app. Right in the show notes. It's in there or it's available at juicebox podcast.com. Now, why do you want a tubeless insulin pump? Well, that's easy, constant Basal, right. Everyone on the tube pump has to take their pump off to shower or bathe or swim. Not you, you have an omni pod, constantly working for you. You can have it on while you're playing soccer. You can have it on while you're carrying a dog to an undisclosed location. You can wear your Omnipod 24/7. And never be without your Basal insulin. It's a big deal. Plus, there's no tubing. And because there's no tubing, there's no controller to connect your body. Right. Other pumps have an infusion set connected to a tube, the tube goes to some controller, then that controller has to be clipped to your belt. I hear some people put it in their bras down their pants, probably not in the front. You know, pocket, it's this thing and now you're connected to it. Plus, if you walk past like a doorknob, you could get the tubing caught on the doorknob, this rip it right out. None of that will happen with the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump on the pod.com forward slash juice box. Now when you head over, you put in just the tiniest bit of information. And when you're done on the pod, we'll get right back to you. Right and if you're eligible for that free 30 day trial. Well guess what? Things are going to be looking up real quick. Where is Rachel? I'm here. Oh god Rachel I just did an entire Omni pod waiting for you to come back.

Rachel 37:46
I heard you that was really really well done.

Unknown Speaker 37:47
Did I do a good job? You did?

Rachel 37:49
I did not know I mean I know you like do them live the like experiencing it. It was really good.

Scott Benner 37:55
Oh, thank you. Yeah, were you waiting for me to be finished? Or were you just choking

Rachel 38:01
Oh no, I heard you I was like oh, he started my tubing I bet you the cin

Scott Benner 38:07
just just for clarity the dogs alive and as well right?

Rachel 38:10
Oh my goodness. She is doing just fine. Excellent. Super sweet.

Scott Benner 38:16
I don't want people thinking you you soprano that dog so you can be

Rachel 38:21
she may start up again. So people might hear how alive and well she is

Scott Benner 38:25
in toss Rafa boat. No, actual sopranos reference. And by the way, let me just say this now if you haven't seen the sopranos, I don't know what you're doing. Go to HBO max right now start watching from the beginning. It's one of the best TV shows ever. Not the point of this conversation though. Okay, so you diagnosed at let me check my memory. 19. Yep. How old were you when I met you?

Rachel 38:51
Oh, gosh, it would have been

Scott Benner 38:53
two years ago. Yep. Take your agents subtract one year.

Rachel 38:57
But it feels like long because of COVID. Don't

Scott Benner 38:59
Don't Don't Don't argue with math. Math is an absolute.

Rachel 39:02
Yes, one year ago. So I was 25. There you go.

Scott Benner 39:05
So you you lived for five years your way with the way that they gave you? Yeah. And then after you found the podcast, how long did it take you to just make the changes and see the results?

Rachel 39:19
It was hard. I feel like it was about six months.

Scott Benner 39:23
Oh, I think that seems short. But I understand that it wouldn't seem short to you

Rachel 39:28
know, and I also hit like a huge patch of like, so working with Jenny. I can see. First of all like the first time she emailed me with like suggestions on what to change and why in all caps. Why? Like, I wanted to cry. I was just like, This is what I've always ever wanted. Like this is amazing. So fine tuning things. At first it went really well. And then I actually so I say six months because it's like a special circumstance where I think I actually hit the This like really big patch of like, insulin resistance for whatever reason. And Jenny actually recommended that I switch insulins to see if that would help. So I went from no vlog to homologue, which isn't like, I mean, everyone's biology is just so different, but it's not like a huge switch. But it was like night and day difference. It was awesome. And then I also came off of a medicine that I was taking. And that really, really helped as well. So that in combination, once that was done, then things were smoother and Pre-Bolus saying made all the sense. And I could find to my diesels, and it was all great. Yeah, I mean, not perfect, but you know, like it made sense. Yeah.

Scott Benner 40:42
Did you? Do you start with Jenny before me? Or did you find Jenny through the podcast? Through the podcast? Oh, I don't get paid for that. But I should.

Rachel 40:53
Yeah. What is Integrated diabetes? And I looked at it, I was like, How have I never known about this? Like, I totally would have done this sooner. I was so ready to be like, there's something else.

Scott Benner 41:06
You know, I want to take my joke back for a second because I am more than paid back with Jenny being on the podcast. So nobody has to pay me anything for that anything, Jenny's terrific. And she she very much adds to the podcast. And I'm so now afraid that she heard me joke like that, because I don't want her to think that I think that because I definitely don't. Anyway, that's cool. Like, it's amazing. How has all this changed your life? Like? I seriously, is there a palpable difference like palpable it's palpable right now palpable, palpable, palpable. Like what can you point to?

Rachel 41:44
So it, I just, I mean, literally physically, a onesies are down. I always hovered around in this heaviness. And once again, my doctor was like, I mean, it could be lower, but this is fine. And now, I mean, my last day when she was five, one, and my time and range was great. And I also like just don't even stress about what I'm eating. Like, I eat a very normal American diet. And I noticed that, like, I've heard you talk about art. And I'm kind of the same way like, I will eat a burger and fries for one meal, and then I'll eat a salad the next and I just don't stress over it the way that I used to. I don't even think I mean, I know I haven't been diagnosed with like, an eating disorder. But once I confronted the way in which I managed my type one, I realized, like, a way in which I was trying to have control previous to the new way of managing was like limiting my carbs. Because I thought and I had realized, like, Oh, it'll, it'll limit the spike, because it did. But that's so restrictive and so harmful. Like, in everyday life, it's just not a way to live personally. Like if you want to eat that way. And that's what you choose. That's one thing. But for me, it was like I can't because it will hurt me. And I just didn't even realize that because I thought that's how it was. And so then once I realized, Okay, once I understand how to use insulin, I can eat, you know, within reason, like whatever I want. You know, this is great, like so it was it was better on just so many fronts, like I just had a lot less stress around managing and eating and living my life

Scott Benner 43:32
so that the low carb mafia doesn't come at you. You're not saying low carb is an eating disorder. You're saying limiting yourself for any reason to be

Rachel 43:39
right just like restrictive thinking around foods like I that's, that's frustrating, like, No, I think if you're doing low carb on purpose, and you're doing it intentionally, and healthily, or however you eat, like, that's completely fine. Okay, but for me, it just like internal, like, I was telling myself, I cannot have this because my results will not be great. And that was so harmful for me.

Scott Benner 44:06
So it's amazing. How about burnout? You mentioned it earlier? Do you experience it as frequently now?

Rachel 44:11
No, I definitely don't because I think so I've always said there's two phases like to being upset about type one. The first one is just that you have it. And if you're diagnosed with it when you're younger, I feel like I hear it doesn't happen as much because you're used to it. But I guess everyone's super different. But for me, I mean, I have a clear memory of what it was like to not have it and a clear memory of what it's like having it

Scott Benner 44:39
it's better not having diabetes or saying

Rachel 44:41
I mean, you know if I had to choose. Yeah, so there's there's the phase of like, what you hit at first where you're just mad that you have it. Sure. And then there's the phase where like what I was describing that I think can cause burnout where you're trying your absolute hardest You're doing your best you're giving it your all and you're still having terrible results and you feel terrible. That's burnout, like, okay, giving it what you think, you know, it means and it's not working. So

Scott Benner 45:14
for you, you have the regular level of diabetes just sucks having it. Yeah. And then there's the effort to take care of it. But then on top of that, you get the outcomes that don't match your hopes. And then the physical and mental stuff that comes along with that.

Rachel 45:35
Yeah, exactly. And so there was a point where I was over the first phase where it's like, okay, I have this, I've accepted it, it's okay. And now I want to make it better and live my life. And I couldn't like I mean, I could, but it just was, I had to ignore it pretty much.

Scott Benner 45:51
You were ignoring your health pillar of your life.

Rachel 45:54
Pretty much like ignoring the fact that I could not. And again, not ever not taking care of myself, but ignoring the thought that it could be better, like pushing that down, because it is the way that it is the doctors say it's fine. I don't feel like it's fine. But it's gonna make me crazy, because I can't change it. So I'm just going to push it down. And that's why again, when I found the podcast and someone talked to me about it, I was like, Wait, so had to like dig it all back up kind of a thing. It was almost like being diagnosed again, kinda.

Scott Benner 46:26
Were you scared? When you found the show that you were gonna get your hopes up, and it wasn't gonna work? Or did you? did feel that way?

Rachel 46:35
Yeah, I was like, this is just gonna be another ride that I you know, another roller coaster ride where I try really hard. It doesn't work. And I get really frustrated, and I have to push it all back down again.

Scott Benner 46:44
I've never considered that before. Yeah, that's a that's obvious now that you said it.

Rachel 46:51
It was hard. And I was really skeptical. At first, I was like, I will listen to say that I listened. But then I mean, all offense lenders, many people will say it's just like, it's so true. It hits home, like everyone tells you to be so afraid of insulin. And I definitely was like, I remember, you know, any Bolus over four units made me a little freaked out. I was like, whoa. Because I mean, when I was using it the way in which I was yes, that was going to result in like a big time low. I'm glad that that as I eat

Scott Benner 47:22
Yeah, that episode said episode 11. Right. Yeah, that I'm so happy that that turned out the way that it did, because I really genuinely did not know what I was doing back then. So that was just me kind of leaning on what I knew resonated from the blog for people. Yeah, then mixed with my own feelings. But yeah, I guess I'm just looking back like, I'm, your story's really great. I'm not making this about me. But I'm looking back for a second and hearing how it's helped you. And I'm fresh, very fresh. In 200, Facebook comments from people telling similar stories on that, that Omnipod posts that I was telling you about? And it's hard not to think. Like, what if I didn't do a good job on episode 11? Would none of this have happened for any of these people? Like this way? Do you know what I mean? Like, it makes it feel like in the moment you're doing it, like, Oh, I hope this works. And then in hindsight, like, wow, I'm glad that worked. Because now I'm aware of what there is to lose more. Yeah, you know, I mean, like writing the blog, I've said this before it writing the blog, you get a handful of notes a month, hey, this really helps me thank you my onesies better, blah, blah, blah. But with the podcast, reaching so many people in so many places, it happens all day long, constantly. And then you become I mean, then I've become very aware of that. And so I'm now I'm suddenly thinking like, Thank God that past Scott got that right, by mistake, because I definitely didn't do it on purpose. I was not. I wasn't very good at it back then. I don't think, you know, as I say that, I realized that an hour and a half ago, a post a post a an episode went up with a 14 year old girl from Russia. And you have to listen to that one. Anyone who's listening. It's called From Russia with sarcasm. So not only is this girl, like my doppelganger, like I want to, I wanted to like the doctor. But which by the way, she has parents. It's not like she was looking for adoption. But, but it's episode 487. If I'm remembering off the top of my head correctly, she finds the podcast at 14 years old, educates herself on everything driven by One thought. And that was that her belief was that if you had diabetes, you'd lose your limbs. So she so at 14 She was like I have to figure out how to keep my body parts. She found the podcast educated herself, when to her parents made them get her Omnipod and Dexcom. Even though I believe they're not available, where she lives

Rachel 50:15
in some countries, like that's a thing to like, quiet. They don't have good management like resources. And it's frustrating. Yeah, no,

Scott Benner 50:23
but it's just that this girl just, she's astonishing. And, and funny. Listen, yeah, she's really something else. And it just made me. You know, I like so right now. She's the person I think of in this moment, because it's fresh in my head. But it'll be somebody different in a week. And I'm very grateful that that you found it. So cool. It really is wonderful. You just don't expect something like this to happen. You would think that it would take a plan. You know what I mean? Not not just the person going like, well, the blog worked. I wonder if I could make a podcast out of it. So

Rachel 51:07
yeah, I'm really glad that you did. Cuz it's definitely you know, it's accessible as podcasts and podcasts are super popular. And I don't know, I like going back to the beginning of the show and seeing how it transformed. I don't think you're bad at it then at all. I think you you got different technology. I think you know better. You learned like, as you went and I think it's really cool to watch the evolution of the show. Oh,

Scott Benner 51:29
then everybody should binge the podcast. I wholeheartedly agree. Started episode one, episode one with Adam Lasher. Yeah. And I only remember that he you know, it's funny. That might be the only episode I know for certain what number it is maybe bold with insulins 11. Adam, last year's one. But I started off with this episode I had, and then I I guess I can say it now but it's been seven years ago. Like Adam, last year was this musician who was on American Idol had type one diabetes. And I think his uncle's Carlos Santana, if I'm remembering correctly. And anyway, I saw him on TV. And I reached out to him. And I may have acted like the podcast was more than it was at that time. Oh, my goodness, but did joke's on me now because everyone starts with episode one. Yeah. So it worked out for him at least. And, and it's when is the first time I was like, go talking to peoples like, cool. Cuz I had recorded a couple of standalone ones at that point. And I was like, Oh, I like talking to people. This is a good idea.

Rachel 52:37
Everyone has a different story. And it's really cool to hear. And that was like, another thing that I so enjoyed was like, people were talking about things that happened to me. And I had never, I mean, at that point, before encountering the podcast, it's not that I didn't have good community, because my friends were very understanding. But none of them had type one. And I didn't really know anybody who did. And I wasn't ashamed or embarrassed or any of the above, I just didn't know anybody who could relate to me. And listening to the podcast, people talking about the tech that I was using new ideas, it made me care again, I was like, oh, there's like a whole group of people and the Facebook group that you mentioned. I mean, that's exceptional, like just the community. And the fact that I've had certain like circumstances happen where I had no one to go to. And you can now go to the Facebook group type in a word, like, let's say you want to take a new medication, and you're worried like how it affects your diabetes, I mean, understanding that it affects everyone differently. But I can type it in and find similar experiences, where I can at least have an idea of what it might look like for my diabetes. And it's insane.

Scott Benner 53:46
I tell you a story about the podcast about the Facebook group that. So I'm this, I'll do it quickly. My son is taking a gap semester, but he's a college baseball player. And he wanted to go to this place called driveline baseball in Washington to work out. So we had saved money not sending him to school, and it seemed like we could handle that. And we got him time to start a day to start on. And then the housing that was available for the athletes was not available for the first week that he had to be there. So I didn't know what to do. And I went online, just kind of looking for a hotel. It was expensive, and I didn't like it wasn't my choice to do that. But I was like, Well, this is the only option, you know, and I found stuff that wasn't sketchy, but it was like I couldn't get so far away from me. I couldn't figure out what was the right decision. And so I went to the Facebook group and I just said Does anyone live around Kent, Washington? And maybe a dozen people answered me and so at first I was like, well, that's weird. It made me want to post again, like pick a random town in another state and be like, Does anyone live near here? Like I'm like how big is this podcast is how I was thinking about it, you know what I mean? But people came back and I recognized one of the respondents as somebody I had interviewed. And so because I had some comfort level with him, because I'd spoken to him for an hour, I messaged him, and we spoke offline, you know. And we're on the phone together. And I'm asking other questions. And during the conversation, he just says, you can just stay here. Oh, and I was like, what? And he goes my house, you could you and your son could just stay at my house for the week, you can get him settled, and then you can leave and he can go do what he's going to do. And I, and I was like, No, that doesn't make like, no, like, thank you. That's very kind, but and then he insisted a little bit. And I said, Okay, thanks. So, we flew out to Washington State from New Jersey, and landed in the evening on Saturday, didn't get to his house to 11pm walked in, I immediately felt comfortable. He was comfortable. It was really something we spent eight nights at his house. They made us food we talked, it was a really like amazing experience. I got to watch. I got to watch like how the podcast helped this family, I got to see where they struggle, like I think I'm better. I'll be better at this now for being able to like, be a fly on the wall in their life in a mean, and but overall, it just, it's stunning. Like I was floored that somebody would say that. But but that's cool. Yeah. But I think that's what this whole thing is done.

Rachel 56:33
I agree. I mean, I feel like I could ask anybody anything in that group. I mean, when you go through something like type one, I just I don't believe I mean, I'm sure there are but like, I've never met anybody who's not a great person with type one or affected by it. Because it just like, forces you. I honestly, I don't even know what it is. But everyone's nice. And I want to read that story.

Scott Benner 56:57
Yeah, I was just I was really touched. But my point is that I didn't. Like I've never imagined that in my life. And that's not something like you guys don't know me that well. But that is not something I would normally do. Like when we were leaving. We're like sitting on the plane getting ready to leave and call and call goes, Hey, these people are gonna kill us right?

Rachel 57:18
Cracker on us or something? They know where we are?

Scott Benner 57:20
I don't think so. I said, Listen. And so I joked with them, I told him a couple days into the trip that that's what he said. And they're like, no, no, no. And I was like, Listen, if you aren't thinking the same thing, I don't know what's wrong with you, you should be thinking like, these two guys aren't gonna kill us. But it was, um, it was lovely. And very unexpected. It was wondering,

Rachel 57:43
did you like do they look at you for Bolus suggestions when they did things? Or like, how did that go?

Scott Benner 57:48
i i watched for a couple of days. And I and I helped if somebody asked me, and then I think it was like day three, or I was like, I really think we should change some of these Basal. And, like, do some stuff. So I tried to help. best I could. And even funnier. They use Jenny. So I was changing Basal race that Jenny said hop and that made me feel super awkward. I was like, I'm gonna tell her that. But privately, I think they weren't like it. But you know, what it showed me was that she had done a good job remotely, of helping them. Yeah, but really being there. And seeing it like live was, you could be more fine about it.

Rachel 58:33
And she can only go off of like what people even tell her to because I laugh at myself. Like sometimes I won't have the bandwidth or the ability to go in and put all these notes in for her and she still does a stellar job to be like, Okay, it looks like you ate here. It looks like you did this. And she does fantastic for like being remote. But like you're saying, I mean, if you're there and they're like, hey, every time you know, he walks a dog or like comes back in like this happens. And she doesn't know that it's like, helpful to make a change. And I'm sure she'd be like, right on

Scott Benner 59:05
Well, what I've learned from talking to people remotely is that they often don't know the things they need to tell you. And I've learned now that if they did, they might be able to make the decisions on their own. But it's it's like they don't know what's important sometimes. And a lot of people it's incredibly common when I'm speaking to people, all the things they are are directly telling you. They think these are the details that you're going to need to help them. I'm just like, I don't I don't need that. Not important. Not important. Not important. Not important. Not but then I asked my questions, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang and it might feel like you know, I don't know it might feel cold, but I'm just like, I asked my questions and I'm like, alright, well now here's what I think. And that's when you start explaining to them that you know a lot of what you're seeing, like if you've ever heard me say on the podcast, people see a lot of ghosts and they make decisions like you know, things they think are happening that aren't or that are you know that some That's real common when I talk to people the first time, they always think that they always think they know what's going wrong. They're so in the weeds. They don't even realize it sometimes. Yeah, really something. Listen, have we missed anything? I just want to make sure like we're not wrapping up wrapping up. But I want to make sure like, is there anything we haven't talked about that you want to talk about?

Rachel 1:00:23
I don't think so. Honestly, I'm just here to surely the podcast. It's great.

Scott Benner 1:00:29
Though there's no this, this, this episode is dense with important information.

Rachel 1:00:34
No, I mean, really, though, but that's like the, you know, summary of my story, I guess. It's like, I'm so grateful that this information exists. And it just changed everything for me. And I'm grateful that I can live my life with a little bit freer headspace. Like, you know, diabetes is there, and I manage it. But it's just not a huge stressor. I mean, sometimes it is because it is for everybody, like random moments, but like, overall, I don't see diabetes and my life like I see my life and diabetes is a facet of it because of this podcast. And I'm really grateful.

Scott Benner 1:01:16
Do you think you'll feel a little less warmly towards me when six months from now this episode is called not Quincy?

Rachel 1:01:22
Or something about like the dog? That'd be hilarious.

Scott Benner 1:01:27
I don't know. I'm pretty firm on not Quincy.

Rachel 1:01:31
Know, I will I won't be upset at all. I give over control of the title.

Scott Benner 1:01:37
I really do. You know, they didn't let me make the title of my book. What I wrote, I wrote a book and every word in that book I wrote except the title. They were like, That's a marketing decision. I was like, Okay,

Rachel 1:01:50
I read your book. I like it. Thank you.

Scott Benner 1:01:52
And then but that's not the point. But but thank you. The point is, is that every interview I had to give about that book, the first question was about the laundry. Why did you choose the title? No, no, they're like, so laundry is terrible, right? And I just started going, like, that's not what it's about. I just, I couldn't even like, I couldn't even tell the story anymore. It was I'm like, that's what a little bit of it's about. It's not like a like, a smidge. It's not even about anything. Like I'm not an I'm not a real writer. Like it's, you know what I mean? Like, it's, I don't know, I don't even know what to call that book. It's fun, though. Right?

Rachel 1:02:26
It was really good. I liked it.

Scott Benner 1:02:28
Touching in places. I hear people cry sometimes when they read it.

Rachel 1:02:32
It was It was touching. I mean, just thinking about. I mean, I mean, of course, the part that like I connected with was just like, where you talked about art and diagnosis. But like, I was older when I you know, experience that it made me ask my parents some questions. I was like, Hey, Mom, did you ever like, come in and try to test my blood sugar, like, in the middle of the night? And she was like, No, you wouldn't let me you woke up. Like whenever I did it.

Scott Benner 1:02:58
Well, you know what? That's that's really nice. First of all, that it made you talk to your mom and have some questions about it. But I I don't know. I don't think of that as a you're too young, I guess is what I want to say. Like for the the parenting stuff. Like he probably didn't hit you in the heart. Like I'm, I'm best suited to make ladies between like 35 and 48. Cry. Like that's my. They're my sweet spot right there.

Rachel 1:03:23
It was really sweet, though. How you talked about family in life, like the way in which you saw Cole or Arden or just things your wife said to you? I did. I mean, I don't have like, I mean, I don't have kids at this point. So like, yeah, what you're saying it didn't hit me probably as squarely as it does some people but the way in which you talked about it, I was like, Oh my goodness. I can see that. That's so sweet. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:03:44
maybe one day it'll it'll feel differently to you. Like you were like a child bride, basically. Right? So you don't need that babies yet. How old? You were like a child bride? Didn't you get mad when you're like 12 or something?

Rachel 1:03:54
No, definitely not.

Scott Benner 1:03:57
I will. Okay. How long? Have you guys been married? I forgot. Ah, we've been married for four years. Yeah, well, you're 21 Then we got married. 22. But yeah, close. That's how old Kelly was. And let me tell you something I know for certain. We were way too young to get married.

Rachel 1:04:11
It's funny, because he's older than me. And so I

Scott Benner 1:04:14
know. Don't worry that part I remember.

Rachel 1:04:16
Yeah. But I mean, I feel like I had a pretty good head on my shoulders. I don't know

Scott Benner 1:04:22
what you did. I'm sure. Now I'm sure we did, too. It's not until hindsight when you look back and go.

Rachel 1:04:27
Wow, I was a child. What was I doing? Yeah, yeah. It's it's funny to like, see. I mean, we were only four years in, but I'm sure like you're saying I'll look back and be like, Wow.

Scott Benner 1:04:40
No, I think Well, I think we had Colin Kelly was like, no, look at me. I don't know. I'll do math for real quick. 74 hours when my wife was born. Nicole was born in 2000. So this should be pretty easy. My wife was 16 when she had a baby. No, hold on. 7484 94 2014 I went too far. Anyway, so Kelly was 26 Maybe when we had a baby. That makes sense.

Rachel 1:05:04
Yep. That's how old

Scott Benner 1:05:05
I am. No. See? And are you ready to have a baby? Oh, no. Exactly what I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. That's all and don't let this Quincy he's got that like nice way about him. He be able to eat like he got you to talk to him to listen to the podcast. He tells you right now might not even be doing anything you mean to be doing? He might be controlling the whole thing in some Svengali like way, which is a word. There's no way you know?

Rachel 1:05:30
I'm sure if you asked him he would say it's the other way around. Oh, it better

Scott Benner 1:05:33
be me. You're the catcher in this situation. I don't think that's a stretch, right? Do you know the word Svengali? Yes. Do you really good for you? Yeah. So how far I have like here, like the like scattershot questions that are left from the hour. They didn't ask how far of a drive was it from your house to to the event in Georgia?

Rachel 1:05:57
It was only a couple hours with Atlanta traffic?

Scott Benner 1:06:00
Yeah, oh, by the way, you people in Atlanta. I don't know what's up with that place. But build another road or ships and people out of there or something. But

Rachel 1:06:07
I 100% let Quincy drive and covered my eyes. I was like, This is ridiculous. This

Scott Benner 1:06:12
is a mess. It's like a racetrack but instead of like, but everybody has a different driving style. Because people are from like, all over the country who lived.

Rachel 1:06:20
It was ridiculous. So yeah, it was only a couple hours. But again, that was like the first GRF event I'd ever even been to or type one event. Because before I was just like, that's not cool. I'm not going.

Scott Benner 1:06:31
I don't imagine I'll ever do one of those again. Really? Well, because first of all, COVID. Yeah, right. And then secondly, JDRF significantly revamped how they do things on a local level. I don't know if they kept it quiet or not. But they fired a lot of people. I yeah, I did hear about that. Yeah, when COVID happen. And if I'm being honest, it's a little bit of a heavy lift to get me to those events. Because I think the national office isn't thrilled with me talking about what I talked about. And so it's the local places that want me that kind of have to, they have to be willing to fight the fight to get me there. I guess.

Rachel 1:07:14
See, I wonder if it's just because they partner with medical people. And if they go against what they say, then it feels wrong. I just think that's ridiculous.

Scott Benner 1:07:22
Yeah, I don't know the reason why. But I would be surprised if I end up doing unless there's some shift, you know, in thinking, which isn't out of line, but it definitely happened. But I just think I also think at this point, I have a different my I have an avenue to reach so many more people, but I just love being where there's I love being where there's so many newly diagnosed people because it feels like an opportunity to save them from what you described earlier, you know?

Rachel 1:07:52
Yeah, absolutely.

Scott Benner 1:07:54
I don't know. We'll see all of the flying around part. I do not miss. Really. Yeah,

Rachel 1:07:59
I can understand that. It's not like

Scott Benner 1:08:00
real travel. You don't get to stay anywhere. See anything. Like the most I saw of Atlanta was leaving that hotel and walking to the train station to get to the airport. This is Atlanta. Yeah. This is Atlanta. That's exactly right. It's me trying to like feed. I forget what it was. I had to get all these coins to get onto some train thing. I still have some of the coins. It's very irritating.

Rachel 1:08:24
No, no. Yeah, I'm sure because it's just so fast paced. It's just like, overwhelming.

Scott Benner 1:08:29
I wouldn't take an Uber hmm, I'm just I'm I'm not anti Uber. I'm just mold. And I don't want a stranger driving me around in their car.

Rachel 1:08:40
Anytime I have ever done it. I'm scared every time. I'm like, I wonder if this one is going to be a psycho.

Scott Benner 1:08:46
That's how I felt when I got to those people's houses. I was like, I wonder how this is gonna go. But I didn't really feel that way. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure it's great. Like I seriously, am I just like I'm an adult. And it feels like something adults don't do. But I guess that's not even right. It's just I'm just old and I don't want to change. How I do things. I would like a taxi. I want to know who to blame when it goes wrong. Okay, I want a company to sue your taxi guy touched me weird. I don't know. Does that happen? I hope that doesn't happen.

Rachel 1:09:18
I hope not. Oh my god. Imagine No,

Scott Benner 1:09:21
I that would be terrible. Okay. All right. So we've done a great job here by we mostly, I mean, you and I really enjoyed talking to you again. It was it was really nice.

Rachel 1:09:32
Yeah, thank you so much for having me on. And I'm glad you got container confused and I'm glad that I could come on to you share my side but I'm glad he also got to be on

Scott Benner 1:09:43
I am too. I really am and I I was gonna say something but now I'm not gonna say because it feels wrong. So we're done. Goodbye.

Huge thanks to Rachel for coming on the show and sharing her story with us. And a nice remembrance of Quincy. I'd like to thank touched by type one for their support, and remind you to go to touched by type one.org and find them on Instagram and Facebook. I also want to thank the Contour Next One blood glucose meter, head over to contour next one.com forward slash juice box to learn more. The Contour Next One may be cheaper in cash than you're paying right now through your insurance. That's interesting, isn't it? There are links in the show notes of your podcast player and links at juicebox podcast.com to these and all of the sponsors.

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