#1398 I Don't Understand... Arden Eight
Are laughter and yawning contagious, exploring empathy and mirror neurons.
Discussion on comedic preferences and stand-up comedy styles.
John Mulaney's humorous GQ interview and its impact on live audiences.
Behavioral mimicry: coughing, smiling, and other shared human behaviors.
Parasites on parasites: the endless layers of life.
Existential musings on the origins of life, space, and the universe.
Personal anecdotes and the quirks of public interactions.
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Scott Benner 0:00
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Arden Benner 3:02
the yawning thing, I think we were actually talking about in my class, and there is no evidence of why that's contagious at all.
Scott Benner 3:11
Why is laughter and yawning contagious? That's what we're talking about today. You're saying that there's no evidence
Arden Benner 3:16
of it at all. Well, laughter is not contagious. It's just like someone laughs, like it makes you laugh, like you think it's like funny, or like you have a reaction to it, but yawning is like, there's no evidence that, like anything is happening now, because you said yawning, I know I feel like I'm gonna yawn too. That's why I think this is a bad idea to do that one we're already
Scott Benner 3:37
a minute ago. We're sticking with it. Let's start with laughter. So the the phrase laughter is contagious. I don't think it's meant like, you laugh and then I uncontrollably laugh.
Arden Benner 3:48
Well, then that's just a stupid thing to talk about. Like, yeah, like, obviously, if someone laughs and like, you're gonna have a reaction to it, and it's gonna be laughter.
Scott Benner 3:56
But maybe not, though, because remember, tell everyone you don't enjoy stand up comedy, not your thing. I don't think, I don't think it's a real skill. Okay, so Arden's not a stand up comedian loving person. I just don't
Arden Benner 4:11
like stand up comedy where they have to write their script out in advance, because then you're not really a comedian. You're just a writer. We also performing it, yeah, but I don't think those are funny. But
Scott Benner 4:22
this is not the point. The point is, if we put stand up comedy on television, which is very popular nowadays, right, you stare right through it. It doesn't grab your attention, you don't laugh. And then was it last summer, two summers ago, for my birthday, we saw John Mulaney live,
Arden Benner 4:37
oh, I was laughing when he told his serial story. You
Scott Benner 4:42
were the person we took that we were like, Oh, this is just a waste of a seat. She's not gonna like this, but you laughed throughout his performance.
Arden Benner 4:48
I giggled, for sure, but like I didn't. There are some stand up comedians that I just don't think are funny at all. I think John mulini has a funny essence about. Him so, like He's just funny to look at, and that makes him funny. And he's literally voices a pig and Spider Man, like He's just funny. Wait, why is he funny to look at? He's a funny looking guy. Is he? You don't think he's funny looking He is literally a cartoon character. I've never
Scott Benner 5:21
really thought about it. Now I have to look also, he's married to a very pretty lady. Yeah,
Arden Benner 5:26
exactly. It makes it even funnier. What makes that funnier? Like? How did that like? What you just feel like? What he looks like a cartoon character? Yeah.
Scott Benner 5:37
Well, I was gonna say he looks like a puffier. Jason Bateman, he looks like, if you like,
Arden Benner 5:44
if like a board game character could walk
Scott Benner 5:48
in his face. Yeah, he kind
Arden Benner 5:49
of reminds me of, like, fix it. Felix, from wreck it. Ralph, you know who that? I gotta
Scott Benner 5:53
look this up. I don't know, fix it. Fix it. Felix, yeah, oh yeah. How about that, Bobby, damn. Yeah, that's pretty good call. Yes,
Arden Benner 6:05
he just has a cartoony vibe about him, so that that automatically just makes you funny. Like, some people have that, like comedian essence, and he has that. There's some people you listen to who are comedians who I literally, I just, I don't find them funny at all, like, I just don't find them funny. But when he told that serial story, I was crying out, but also like he didn't. It's not like he wrote the joke like he was reading an article,
Scott Benner 6:33
I know, but we've now seen him do it like. So this was interesting, because you felt like, Oh, he's not really performing this. But then a friend of yours,
Arden Benner 6:43
oh, I didn't, I didn't say he wasn't performing it. I just there's something about the fact that comedians will write their scripts in advance and then, like, try to perform it for you and try to be funny about it that I don't find to be funny. Yeah, I know you have a very strong feeling about this. I think, like comedians who do like audience work or whatever, whatever it's called, like he's the audience. I think they're naturally funny because they're coming up with stuff on the spot. And I think it like his delivery of reading that article was funny, and also a lot of what he told was stories that had happened to him. I think storytelling can be funny, but I don't think like comedians who like make up literal jokes are funny. Like every time I watch America Scott talent and a comedian goes on automatically, I want someone to press the red buzzer.
Scott Benner 7:32
I think they're just bad comedians generally, though. Yeah, they are. So are there stand up comics that you can think of who you enjoy their and you laugh at their storytelling.
Arden Benner 7:42
Oh, who's that guy on tick tock? He know it. He doesn't really make me laugh, but he also has one of the he's a little funny looking, and sometimes he'll do stuff that makes me laugh, and I'm like,
Scott Benner 7:55
Haha, you're not talking reminds you're not talking about you're
Arden Benner 7:59
gonna speak over. Okay, cool, because we can see each other talking. He reminds me of, like a geeky version of, um Seth Cohen, like a geekier version. You know who Seth Cohen is? No, from the OC.
Scott Benner 8:13
I thought you're gonna say Matt rife, that handsome boy that does the tick tock. Oh, I don't, I don't think he's funny. I have to tell you what his tick tocks are funny, but I tried to stand up, and no offense to him, but it was bad. So
Arden Benner 8:24
what is this guy's name? I'll find it.
Scott Benner 8:27
I just want to say too that John mulaney's ex wife has like an edge to her, which you wouldn't expect, and she's writing a memoir, but not mentioning him in it. Why am I reading an Anne Marie? Oh, go ahead. His name is Jeff Arcuri. Okay, I think, yeah, this guy you think is funny? No,
Arden Benner 8:50
I don't think that he is funny. I think that when the crowd interacts with him, it's funny. He's good at
Scott Benner 8:56
what they call crowd work. What's that podcast? You love that I and he's funny looking, oh, the basement yard. Is that it?
Arden Benner 9:05
I love the basement yard. They also, like, aren't even funny. They're just really dumb. They're just really dumb. And I think, like, if you met them and told them, like, I don't know if you guys are even super funny, you're just you really don't know a lot about life, they would like, be like, yeah, and then agree with you. You don't think
Scott Benner 9:25
they're putting that dumb thing on. No, I don't think. What do I call it? Every time I ask you about it, I'm like, What's that? I call it? Like dumpster podcast. Why do I think that? Yeah, let's go backwards for a second. Anne Marie Tendler, married to John Mulaney for years before. I believe he maybe went, what they call off the wagon and she left him, or something like that. But who is she? Like? Why does she get to write a book that doesn't Oh, she's already a writer. I
Arden Benner 9:51
remember watching comedians and Cars Getting Coffee, and John Mulaney being on an episode, and. In having to go rug shopping for her, and that's it. That's the only time I've ever heard of her. She's
Scott Benner 10:04
written three books, the daily face pin it, 20 fabulous somethings, and men have called her crazy. So she's a writer, and now they're letting her write a, I guess, a more personal book, but I don't understand why. I mean, if you're not going to mention John millennium, do I care? Known professionally is Anne Marie tenler is an American multimedia artist known for her work in photography, makeup, hairstyle, textile crafts, and notably, and notable specialty is make handmade lampshades. You can be famous for making lampshades. Oh, my God, that's upsetting. But then he married Olivia mun who's out of his league, right? Yeah, like, visually. I know we're not supposed to talk about people that way, but Right? Well, yeah, I don't know how you guys order your diabetes supplies, like CGM pumps and testing equipment, but at our house, we use us Med, and I'm gonna walk you through the entire process right now. I'm looking at the email from us Med, it says it's time to refill your prescription, dear Arden, please click the button below to place your next order. Then you click the button that was it. Two days later, I got this email, thank you for your order from us. Med, we wanted to let you know that your order and it gives you an order number was shipped via UPS ground. You can track your package at any time using the link below, and then there was a link, and then it showed up at our house. Now I'm going to walk you through the entire chain of events. On the 29th which was the Saturday I clicked on the email. On that Monday, the first I got an email that said the order had been sent. Four days later on the fifth the package arrived. If you can do it easier than that, you go get it. But if you can't us, med.com/juice, box or call 888-721-1514, get started today with us. Med, get your diabetes supplies the same way we do the Dexcom g7 is sponsoring this episode of The Juicebox Podcast, and it features a lightning fast 30 minute warm up time that's right from the time you put on the Dexcom g7 till the time you're getting readings. 30 minutes. That's pretty great. It also has a 12 hour grace period so you can swap your sensor when it's convenient for you, all that, on top of it being small, accurate, incredibly wearable and light, these things, in my opinion, make the Dexcom g7 a no brainer. The Dexcom g7 comes with way more than just this, up to 10 people can follow you. You can use it with type one, type two, or gestational diabetes. It's covered by all sorts of insurances. And this might be the best part. It might be the best part alerts and alarms that are customizable, so that you can be alerted at the levels that make sense to you. Dexcom.com/juice, box, links in the show notes, links at Juicebox podcast.com, to Dexcom and all the sponsors. When you use my links, you're supporting the production of the podcast and helping to keep it free and plentiful. Yeah. I mean, like, she's,
Arden Benner 13:09
she's, she's pretty, yeah, she has a sort of pretty that's like, she's
Scott Benner 13:15
both pretty
Arden Benner 13:17
on a screen. But also, if she was walking down the street, like, I would be like, she's pretty too. Yeah, she's got that vibe. And it's not, it's not like, overwhelming at all. It's just like, Oh, she's very pretty. He
Scott Benner 13:28
out kicked his coverage. Why did they use that as a saying? I don't even know what that means.
Arden Benner 13:33
It's like, I really think that you should explain the serial portion of what I'm talking about so that people understand what I mean. Well,
Scott Benner 13:40
how am I gonna explain that? Fine, I'll do it. You can remember it.
Arden Benner 13:46
I do remember it because I was seeing my pants. Also, for some reason, we had seats, and I was the only one who wasn't sitting with our family. I was sitting behind all of you guys, and then I was sitting next to a random family, and I was, like, trying to stay quiet, but like, I just physically, like, I couldn't, like,
Scott Benner 14:05
I was crying, yeah, you were cracking up. And honestly, yes, at that certain part, did you not remember? Yeah, but we think we all thought you were, well, first, can I read you this? And then what? And you tell me why it's funny. Laughter is actually contagious. It's not just the saying. When people hear someone laugh, their brains can automatically respond, creating a desire to laugh along, even without fully understanding the reason behind the laughter. It happens because of mirror neurons, specialized brain Oh, I
Arden Benner 14:33
just learned about mirror neurons. It's what it's when you do what the opposite person is doing, yeah, like your neurons act like they're neurons.
Scott Benner 14:40
That really happens, specialized brain cells that activate when we see or hear others perform in action, is why I cry when people cry,
Arden Benner 14:46
yeah, probably, yeah. I just had a whole test on I had an exam on this a couple of weeks ago. Oh,
Scott Benner 14:50
here. These neurons play a big role in empathy and mimicry. Laughter is also a social bonding tool in group settings. Laughter can help create a. Sense of connection. I mean, these are things we know, but that's
Arden Benner 15:01
why I think that this like connects to, like, you know, like, when you people go to, like a zoo and they like talk to, like, apes and gorillas and stuff, and they'll like, do what you're doing, it's because they whatsoever, they have, like, a they have a conscious like, their consciousness is there, yeah, like, they pass the mirror test, or something called the mirror test. So, like, there's certain animals that can, like, they look in a mirror and they know that they're there. They don't think it's another animal. You brought up the mirror test in another episode. Yeah, exactly. So the commuter neurons so that they're, like, doing what we're doing.
Scott Benner 15:34
Gorillas are intelligent animals whose cognitive abilities are often compared to those of young human children.
Arden Benner 15:42
Like toddler, toddlers, or something like that. I
Scott Benner 15:44
mean, I've met some kids that were older. I would be like, That kid's not as smart as a monkey like so maybe, yeah, okay. So
Arden Benner 15:52
I sent mom a video of a monkey doing, wait, a monkey's doing. What? A setup, okay? And I thought it was so funny, and she did not respond to it. I just got left onto the window. You want to see it. She's
Scott Benner 16:06
just never I would like to see the thing, and I have the full GQ article that John reads from in the bit that you wait. Ready? Are you ready? Yes.
Arden Benner 16:20
I said it to her, and she didn't respond to me. Oh, listen
Scott Benner 16:23
to me tell people how much you love little monkeys and
Arden Benner 16:28
that you would definitely I love. Yeah, I want to pet monkeys so bad. I know they say that they attack people, but part of me thinks that me and monkeys think very similarly, and that those who I want to attack the monkey would want to attack so I am not a danger. You
Scott Benner 16:41
think you and the monkey would vibe, and therefore it would be okay.
Arden Benner 16:46
Oh, completely Wait, a monkey. The
Scott Benner 16:49
ones people keep the little capuchin monkeys. Capuchin
Arden Benner 16:52
like, who doesn't want something called a Capuchin monkey? Well, let's see. The
Scott Benner 16:56
pros are. They're intelligent, known for their problem solving skills. Maybe they could help you with your coding test. And the cons are they can be aggressive, if not properly trained and socialized. They also live the 40 years old requiring a long term commitment that's gonna live longer than me. What's your longest relationship so far? Like, romantic? Yeah, 11 months, because you got to make it. I'm only 20. If we get you a monkey right now, you'll be 60 when it passes away. It's crazy. They're also marmosets. People keep but they're like wild animals. The care is very specific. Tamarinds specialized diet care requirements. Can live 15 to 20 years. Squirrel monkeys, they require social interaction.
Arden Benner 17:39
Squirrel Why would you name something a different animal, squirrel, monkey. It's like, it's like, spider monkey. Isn't that a thing? It's the next one on
Scott Benner 17:46
the list. Spider Monkeys. They're intelligent. Yeah. Their intelligence means they can be quite destructive, if bored. They can live 30 plus years. So me, there's so many, hi, many places keeping monkeys as a pet is illegal. That one lady had that Chimp, that chimpanzee in it, like that, oh, attack that woman, yeah, like her friend, like, I think really hurt her. Okay, so I have here, John Mulaney, GQ, article, what Article? Yeah, that does she send it to me? No, hold on. I'll send it to you, and then you're gonna tell people why it was so funny. All right, it's so funny.
Arden Benner 18:18
It's important to say, Well, some people have probably seen this, but it's on Netflix, but it's important to say that the whole what were we at, the whole stand up act, right? Is about how he had just gotten out of rehab. Yes, correct, yes. Okay, right. So it's like, kind of serious, because he just got out of rehab, but it's also comedy, and this is his ending. This is, this was his closing thing. I remember it because I thought, Oh, my God, I'm gonna pee my pants. I gotta get out of here. We're just looking at it out and thank you. Laugh. I'm just reading it again. So wait, what happened? He someone called him to do a GQ, cause him to do an interview,
Scott Benner 18:59
an interview, but he's whacked out of his mind. Oh yeah, he is on heavy drugs.
Arden Benner 19:08
I feel like we have to read the whole interview. Who do you want to be? I don't even know. What
Scott Benner 19:13
do you want? Do you want to be John, or do you want to be the interviewer? How am I gonna get through it? By the way, John Mulaney has spoken about being, uh, addicted to alcohol, cocaine. I love that he can joke about that, and Vicodin, are some things that he's talked about. And this, this whole like, good. Do you see the first question? Hold on a second. The original story is below. It's like bolt bolded the first questions, bold Did you see any ghosts today? Um,
Arden Benner 19:45
already asked. I don't I'm confused why she asked him that I'm trying to figure it out. Who do you want me to be? John? Sure.
I'll ask the questions. You be John Mulaney, okay, okay, okay, all right, go ahead. Did you see any ghosts today? I haven't, but I walked out. What is supposedly the most haunted building in New York City. Oh, where is that? It's a vacuum on
14th, between Fifth and Sixth, and it used to be a boarding house. My, oh, my, apparently, just incredibly haunted, like alter guys taunted.
Scott Benner 20:17
What about vacuum cleaner? Store made you laugh immediately,
Arden Benner 20:20
because what the hell is he talking about? Oh, get
Scott Benner 20:24
up on that microphone when you're reading. Did you get a chill or a bad vibe? It doesn't
Arden Benner 20:29
give me a bad vibe anymore. I think when I first walked past it, I knew what it was, so maybe I faked the bad vibes. Although I walked by a house that was haunted in Los Angeles, and I didn't know it was haunted. It was just kind of like, Oh, what's this house? And then slowly I was like, I don't like this place. I'm going to walk away from here with my dog. And it was called The Murder House of Las Felice, and it had a terrible history. That's the only time I've really had a creeping sense of ghouls and ghosts out of nowhere, and then,
Scott Benner 21:04
what is he talking about? Why don't you ask the next question? I'll do that answer. I
Arden Benner 21:09
feel like there's a horror comedy in your head begging to come out at some point.
Scott Benner 21:13
Well, I'm trying to think I'm not good with hard devices like twists and things like that, but I could write a comedy about someone who's just haunted and scary. I do have an idea. I used to watch this show, ghost kids, children of the paranormal, and it was about real life, six sense kids. And it was very compelling. And I believed these kids, and I always thought that would be fun, like Bad News Bears type movie, where either one of the players sees ghosts, or maybe it's kind of like a dawn, like a down and out team, because they all see ghosts, and that's their thing, as opposed to being like the team without much money, they're the team, but this is like a co grant, if I've ever heard one, they're the team that sees ghosts, so that's why they're last in the league. And if you think I'm not just making that up. I'm not just making that movie up on my feet. You're absolutely wrong. I'm coming up with it as we speak. All right, hold on. Would you watch? But I don't want to add to your plate, which is already pretty full. Look at that. Look at the interview. Trying to be nice to him. Maybe like bringing them back a little bit, you have this Marvel Contest of Champions thing you're doing, which is a continuation of your spider ham roll. Actually, we're coincidentally talking on the anniversary of spider verse. It turns to today.
Arden Benner 22:32
It does turn to, yeah, I remember two years ago going, Oh, into the spider verses out. I'm not just kidding. I do recall it. You know why? It was the first movie I was ever in, so it was a big deal. Then it
Scott Benner 22:45
went on to critical and popular acclaim. That's always good. Yes,
Arden Benner 22:49
which Peter Ramsey and borrow proschetti. Proschetti and Rodney Rothman, they made such an incredible film that I definitely felt a part of it. It felt like watching a perfect meal being served, and I knew I chopped the garlic, I felt in all of it. And then people go, congratulations. I'd be like, on what? And then they'd be like, the movie. And I was like, Oh yeah, that's other people. And they're like, No, you're in it. And I'm like, Okay, fine, if you want to give me credit, I'll take it.
Scott Benner 23:15
You got his cadence there a little bit, I
Arden Benner 23:17
know, because that's how he was saying. I'll ask the next Okay, good. Well, how does it feel to be reprising the character again? Now for this campaign that you're doing, it's so
Scott Benner 23:26
natural. It's crazy. The thing that was fun about doing this character was that I spoke in my voice the way I talk with slight volume raises. But it took until someone offered me a spider man, pig character before I could say, like, oh, they just want me to be me. I feel like Cary Grant got a I feel like Carrie grant got a lot of those offers where he's like, where he's like, I see they just want the Cary Grant shoot in my first wreck, in my first records. I was like, What are you looking for? And they were like, talk the way you would.
Arden Benner 24:05
This also coincides with the new season of big math. It seems like you gravitate towards voiceover work a lot more often than some of your peers. What is that you like about it? Oh, I
Scott Benner 24:15
really like it. First off, it's something about the acting. It's performative. Fully. If you watch someone do an animated voiceover, you're throwing the action into it. You're trying as much as possible to recreate the loss of breath or the fact that they're struggling to get over something, and other than breathing on the mic too harshly, you're able to kind of act in that space can't breathe. I find it really fun. Also, it's an easier way to do, like, five takes in a row. You can be like, actually, let me do five blammos. And there's no, there's not camera rolling and 100 grips and lighting guys. So you can just go, let me do five blammos. It says here in the article, he proceeds to read, blame, oh, five different ways. Blammo. Blammo. Oh, blamo, blamo, blamo. And that's acting, what I just did. So you can really play around. So you can really play around, even more so than you can on set. What's interesting is when you first get into the voiceover booth, normally, I'm coming off the subway, and I haven't been in talking and yelling. So everyone comes into voiceover. It's not that they're rusty, it's just more like they're just used to speaking in an inside voice. So the first takes of any animated thing be at big mouth, or this new Chip and Dale project or spider like how he throws in his Chip and Dale project or spider verse, the first takes are always like, Hi. This is Peter porker. I'm here. I'm a reporter. I want to help too. And they're like, Okay, great. Now do it with energy and as if you were definitely Peter porker and not someone who was just on the subway. Hold on. I'll reach you the next one. Awesome. He's awesome. He must have been about to get to the best part. Okay, well, the whole thing's the best part. I don't care what people think you have. The Chip and Dale thing with Sandberg, I'm sensing a theme of voiceover characters here. I love
Arden Benner 26:07
how you said that I chose them. I must admit, I, for a very long time, much, very much wanted voiceover work. And then big mouth, then spider verse came along, and I was like, yes, yes. So I don't want to say I just accepted these films, because I would take anything, but more, like I was really open to it, and then they offered it, so I took it.
Scott Benner 26:26
What about the spider ham roll specifically? Do you enjoy tapping into especially now that you're getting to do more of this time around? I like
Arden Benner 26:34
that. He takes his day job seriously. He has an air of he's always pushing the reporter thing first, I like that he, I don't know if he maybe compared to some of the other spider verse spider creatures. He might have the highest EQ seems very sensitive about himself and others. But I mainly like that he talks in an old timey voice and says stuff like blam Oh. And I think also can't help himself with hand puns. Anyone who goes for jokes constantly, even though they know that they're completely hack and stupid, is always a hero. All right, let's take a breath. Wait, Dad, this is the best one. I want to be here.
Scott Benner 27:12
I want to talk about how this year has been for you creatively, because around this time last year, you were coming off sack Lunch Bunch, which was arguably one of your biggest creative risks, and it really paid off. How has your creative process been impacted by this year? If
Arden Benner 27:28
you heard that spoon, it's because I'm eating a bowl of fruit loops working in this new reality. At first, I thought, okay, now's your chance. Literally, you'll be alone without any collaborators. You create anything you want. There's no clock. And what I realized was I really like working with other people, which was not hard. Once people really dove into working over zoom at first, when I heard about that, I was like, There's no way people are going to work this way. I don't know why I was so skeptical, but I was and I definitely was thrilled once I started being in touch with friends again and collaborating on the new sack lunch bunches and did the oh hello podcast, the life and death of Princess Diana. Once I was back, even virtually, with the people I love collaborating with, like Nick roller, Marika Sawyer, I felt much more at home the idea of sitting alone waiting maybe someday I'll have my ADHD under control and we'll be able to do it. I'm probably on stage with an audience or with other people writing documentary now, or recording big mouth or those movies. I'm not Philip Roth. And I know you'll think I'm Phillip Roth Frazier, but I'm not.
Scott Benner 28:25
Oh, man, you just popped the bubble. I know I'll
Arden Benner 28:29
ask the next question, wait, has working on late night, Late Night with Seth Meyers giving you that structure you were seeking
Scott Benner 28:37
laughs. So I guess he laughs. It's really fun, and it's really fun to go into an office and work with friends. It's not simply a case of structure, but yes, it is nice to have an office, where office to go to, where it's super safe after doing Saturday Night Live, I thought I really miss going into a workplace when I realized I had very lucky opportunity to go into Seth's show, I was stoked, because I realized not a lot of people get to recreate that or have that interaction right now, so I'm extremely lucky to be able to watching
Arden Benner 29:07
your segments. Made me wonder, would you ever build up to having your own talk show just John Mulaney and guests? Well,
Scott Benner 29:14
it's interesting you say that from my segments. I don't know if the persona I'm playing in those segments would get his own talk show, but I always wanted to do a talk show where the guest is always someone from a job that I don't understand. I'd love to interview a dog catcher and be like, what's that like? How do you feel about yourself? I'm not judging, but I am a little How do you feel? Rounding up dogs and taking them to the pound. I had two ideas for a talk show ones. And by ideas, I mean I thought about them in the privacy of my own room. One would be just interviewing people who do anything that interests me, and I don't mean like on the ground and I'm watching them do their job. It would be like a talk show set, and they'd come out, and there'd be a band and so forth. In case you were confused. City. He meant go to work with them. The other thing was just to have only elderly people on which I obviously would not do to the risks. But I just thought it would what are the risks of
Arden Benner 30:12
having elderly I think this was during COVID. Oh, okay, all right.
Scott Benner 30:16
But I just thought it would be great to talk to old people, especially if they were comfortable talking about being at the end of their lives and just go, did you like it? Did you not ideally? Maybe like a four year old and an 84 year old, or a 40 year old and a 94 year old, that would be our ideal lineup.
Arden Benner 30:34
Okay, I think we should skip to the bottom, okay, where she says to him, this goes on forever. Everyone should read this, by the way, where she says to him, I think what we've established in this conversation is that there are a ton of different ideas rattling around in your head that you should definitely make happen.
Scott Benner 30:49
If that's what people took away from this, I'd be thrilled.
Arden Benner 30:54
She says, I don't want to take too much of your time away from the Fruit Loops. They're
Scott Benner 30:59
done. They're long gone. Frasier was he eating the fruit lips the whole time? I believe so, because he she heard this at one point, and
Arden Benner 31:07
it ends and she says, we're a year away from sack lunch now. One of the key segments, and that was talking about fears after the year that we've all had. I wanted to know if your fears change with 2020
Scott Benner 31:17
Well, I think a lot of people have noticed what isolation is actually like it's not good for you. I think people have adopted a great deal more compassion in some regards for their fellow man. Isolation certainly is, I don't know if it's a fear so much as now appreciate how scary it is that other people pretty much make life worth living, but my major fear remains the same, which is the Russian mafia. So now in the stand up, what his what does he end up? By the way, Frazier Tharp is the editor at GQ specialized in dictating entertainment coverage. I believe Frazier is the writer of this, this piece. They are. I mean, kudos, Frazier. It's wonderful. But what does he say then in the stand up afterwards? Like did? He was just, no, it ends the stand up. He just reads that at the end of it, yeah, okay.
Arden Benner 32:10
He's like, Thank you for having me, whatever. But it was, it's the way that he does the fruit lifts part. And I just, I can't take it. I think he might have had like a spoon with him that he dropped on stage. No, yeah, I don't think so. Something happened. I feel like he makes the sound or something. You
Scott Benner 32:31
were just so into it at that point, though, and he
Arden Benner 32:34
was and he says the whole like, if you heard that noise,
Scott Benner 32:40
I dropped my spoon. You should watch this. Do you know what it's called, that up at the John Malini, but do you think you were laughing because you were in a big group of people like do you think if you would have seen that at home, you wouldn't have laughed like that?
Arden Benner 32:58
Maybe, I don't know it's possible, but God, the Fruit Loops killed me. I was long gone after that one. Is it? Baby? J,
Scott Benner 33:06
no, I don't think so. It is. Is it? It is because that's his latest one from 2023 it's called Baby. J, I'm sorry I couldn't hear that great because Netflix was playing in my ears when I was looking so when you're around your friends, oh, it is okay. When you're around your friends, you guys giggle like crazy.
Arden Benner 33:24
Yeah, they they have a lot to say. But do you think? Well, I've also, I've also known them their whole lives. So you know, I know every detail about them. What makes things funny? What makes what's not funny? Okay, I don't know the whole yawning thing, though. I can't, I can't help you with that. What do you can't help me with that. There's no evidence to
Scott Benner 33:43
that. Why do you mean there's no that happens to everybody, doesn't it? Yep,
Arden Benner 33:47
there's no evidence to why that happens. Is what I'm trying to tell you. It
Scott Benner 33:50
says there is Hold on a second. No, there isn't. It brings up mirror neurons again. In fact, it is so contagious that you don't ever have to see another person yawn, to yawn yourself. Sometimes all it takes is hearing a yawn or thinking about one. You may be yawning right now, talking about this,
Arden Benner 34:07
trying so hard not to do it.
Scott Benner 34:09
Well, it's like, Oh, I did it right away. You
Arden Benner 34:14
wouldn't know this because you never went to college. But like when I go to, like, my big lecture classes, as soon as one person coughs for the first time, it doesn't stop. The whole class. Okay,
Scott Benner 34:30
so this is really interesting to me.
Arden Benner 34:32
The whole class, it does not stop. And I know they don't have to cough
Scott Benner 34:37
the first time it happened to me. I'm gonna sound I don't know what I'm gonna sound like right now, but I'm a big fan of classical music, so mom and I saw Yo Yo Ma in New York when we were younger.
Arden Benner 34:48
And it was like, it was like five years ago,
Scott Benner 34:53
Mom and I have seen Yo Yo Ma number of times live, not just once. What?
Arden Benner 34:56
Yeah, was I alive? Probably. You don't even know.
Scott Benner 35:00
I mean, the last time we saw him was 2018 God is it 2024 so six years ago, saw him in Washington, DC. But the time before that, I don't remember, we were in New York, and he'd play for a while. And throughout the playing, there's just, there's this smattering of like, like throughout the crowd, right? He'd stop playing, and then it was silent, like during the intermission, silent in the place. Then the little bell would ding. Gives you the idea, like, you know, in a couple of minutes, gonna start playing again. And as soon as the pressure hit some people that they had to be quiet, they started like, they start coughing, coughing, yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous. I know it's so annoying that pressure it's annoying, is what it is, okay. Why, in a moment when quiet is required, do some people cough? This the thing I'm noticing and no one else is noticing, or is it going to heightened awareness of silence? This is what I think it is nervousness or anxiety intense situations, such as during exams, important meetings or performances. It can make people anxious or nervous, and anxiety can lead to physical responses like dry mouth throat, which triggers a cough. It's a kind of nervous tic that releases some of their tension, tension to respiratory sensations, psychological influence. There's an also an element of suggestion. When one person coughs in a quiet room, they might become more aware of their own throats and then feel compelled to cough. Yeah. It's really annoying. It's fascinating. Like, as soon as you need to be quiet, someone's like,
Arden Benner 36:43
that's why. Like, you know that movie a quiet place? Yes, everybody did. No one would survive that. Everybody be done in 10 minutes. That's right. Who wrote that? John Krasinski from the office. I love him. You didn't get that part right. How do you feel about him? And Emily Blunt, hmm,
Scott Benner 36:59
she seems fancier than him,
Arden Benner 37:02
right? But also, I find him to be more attractive than her.
Scott Benner 37:07
What say you? Why is this? I don't know. He's a man who's gotten much more attractive as he's gotten older. Am I
Arden Benner 37:13
right? She's gotten more manly. I would say, really, I thought
Scott Benner 37:16
it was weird that he was gonna play like it's fantastic. Four No, no, no, no. He's in an Amazon series. It was pretty good. Jack Ryan, oh, yeah, I never watched that, yeah, and he was believable in it. But, like, see how his face is, like, build up and gotten no, I can't see what you're looking at his face. You think about his face, he looks more rugged. Oh, I thought you meant in the show, he looks rugged now, like he filled in. Yeah,
Arden Benner 37:40
more manly. He seems more manly now. And he's very strong. I'm pretty sure,
Scott Benner 37:44
yeah, that's from being rich and being able to, like, lift all that stuff all the time. But I don't know, like you think he's the better looking person in their relationship. I
Arden Benner 37:55
think so. I also think that Emily Blunt looked much better with her red hair than her blonde hair. Really, I think the blonde hair makes her look older. And I also think that she's one of those people that's like, she was cast in like, a couple good movies, and now she can, she's just casting, like, some terrible stuff. But people would just be like, Oh, it's
Scott Benner 38:13
definitely blunt. You think she had such an opportunity after, um, your favorite movie? Yeah,
Arden Benner 38:20
is that your favorite also, wait, is that your favorite movie? It's one of my favorites. Devil Wears Prada. Yeah, it's a great movie. I can watch it. But I took my, um, when I was in like, sophomore year high school, junior yeah, I forgot. And I took like, those college classes for film. I put that down as one of my favorite movies. And I remember the professor being like, that's one of the best choices that, like I've seen so far. And I was like, Do
Scott Benner 38:44
you know what year that movie came out? Yeah, 2006 How do you know that? Because I love that. You just know that? My god, that was awesome. Yeah, she's very famous, but she hasn't been in a lot of good movies. Am I wrong? I mean, yeah, she has Yeah, Gulliver's Travels, The Wolf Man, this is stuff nobody's seen. Arthur Newman, Edge of Tomorrow was awesome with Tom Foos. That was great. Were they like, it's Groundhog Day. Do you know the movie I've never seen, I've never seen Edge of Tomorrow is really good. You should watch. Oh, I finished that movie I was telling you about yesterday. Oh, let me say she was in looper. I enjoyed looper. Oh, and Sicario. You ever see Sicario? No, that's a good movie. But
Arden Benner 39:31
I'm talking about, like, now, like, she was in Oppenheimer. I know that, yeah,
Scott Benner 39:35
but, but right before that, the movie she did before that, was Jungle Cruise with, like,
Arden Benner 39:39
Judge, I was gonna say it's with the rocker, yeah? Like, what is that? And that
Scott Benner 39:44
last thing, fall guy, I put it on on the cable, but let me just tell you, it's not good. You know what I mean? So, all right, go ahead. I'm sorry. We're gonna also, you
Arden Benner 39:53
know what? I feel terrible about that the woman who plays Pam is not close to as famous as Jon, Christopher. Ski. You think she should be more famous? Uh, I don't know that she should be more famous, but, I mean, he really leveled up compared to
Scott Benner 40:07
her. Pam Beasley, what's her name? Pam Beasley, no, her the actress, Jenna something, oh, played by Jenna Fisher. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. God, sorry, sorry, jeez, I'm sorry. I don't know her name. You're coming at me today. I'm sorry I didn't know her name. Yeah, I mean, she's making a podcast. I mean, can you imagine, yeah,
Arden Benner 40:27
with what's the Angela woman? Right? What a lovely profession. Yeah,
Scott Benner 40:31
no, I see he really did, like, let's, let's go through them, right? Most of them didn't do much rain. Wilson's just, like, professionally rain. They must be also wealthy. That's what I keep thinking. Like rain will especially
Arden Benner 40:44
because what it's still on all those platforms, it's still like, you go to a hotel, the office is playing
Scott Benner 40:51
always, Steve Carl's gotta be always. Steve Carl's gotta have, like, amount of money, right? Yeah.
Arden Benner 40:56
He's also been in so many movies. He's in one of the best rom coms of all time. Crazy Rich love, everyone should watch that. What is it? Crazy Rich, love, Dad, you've seen it. Come on, have I really
Scott Benner 41:07
crazy? That's great movie. Whoa. I know we shouldn't believe this stuff online, because whatever, but his estimated worth is $80 million so yeah, maybe that's why she's making a a podcast. Maybe she's just doing it because she's what's, what's her estimated worth? Hold on, a second. What's her name? Again, Jenna Fisher. She was in
Arden Benner 41:28
a she was in a sitcom for like, five minutes, and then that ended too, being divorced or something.
Scott Benner 41:33
I mean, the inner web has her at 12 million bucks. You can make it with that. That'll get you through. Don't you think, yeah, I'll take 12 million. I read somewhere that Jenna Fisher made 30 to 40,000 an episode for the first three seasons of the office. And after that, this is like Reddit. And after that, what I don't know but these pot I'll tell you what the podcast skip her. You know, they just sold that smart list podcast for a big pile of money. Again, like they sold it once, like three years ago, and then they sold it again to Sirius XM. So that
Arden Benner 42:06
would be 800 around $840,000 a season for the first three seasons, so times three. So she makes 2.5 million for the first three seasons. Then she's got to get a raise from there, right? Yeah, because that's a lot of money. But think about it. It's not that much money. It's not
Scott Benner 42:22
live the rest of your life money. It'll especially if you're spending it living like in California and stuff like that, it's gonna go away, right? Yeah, they don't even pay people like this anymore. I don't think at one point she was raised to $100,000 an episode. Is that back when they were doing 24 episodes a year?
Arden Benner 42:39
Yeah. So that's what, 2.4 million a year. Give that, like, four seasons, that's 9.6 million. She's got, hopefully still, but still it ends. And then what? Well,
Scott Benner 42:51
yeah. I mean, you could make it through your whole life with 10 million but, I mean, really have to try,
Arden Benner 42:56
yeah, but not if she's not, if she started spending, like, Oh, I'm making money now I'm saying, like,
Scott Benner 43:01
she'd have to try meetings. She'd have to live like a regular person. Yeah, maybe she does. It's
Arden Benner 43:07
not, it's not like, so interesting. How quickly money goes. Yeah.
Scott Benner 43:11
It's horrifying, actually. Yeah. So the coughing thing. So how many other things are we doing because the people around us laughing, yawning, coughing. So hold on laughing, yawning. I'm gonna yawn again, by the way. I wonder if we blink when other people blink. I just yawned again. I seriously, all right. So I asked, what else do we do? Because other people have done it.
Arden Benner 43:38
Let's see, maybe, like, touch our face a certain way, move our hair. Phenomenon
Scott Benner 43:42
is often referred to as social contagion, or behavioral mimicry. Smiling, well, that's nice to know clapping. Think you smiled when I said it was nice to know that about smiling, I laughed at you, oh, oh, because you were like, because I was being like, Oh, I really think that's nice to know because you could smile and other people would smile too. I smiled at a lady in the parking lot today at the grocery store, and she smiled back at me. Well, that's
Arden Benner 44:05
great. It was really nice. No, it was. But I have a thought in my head right now. Go ahead. I remember hearing watching a show or something, and they were talking about, like, oh, like, how do you know if it's like a young girl, she's in high school, and she was like, I want to know if my crush is looking at me, but I, like, can't tell, and they did, like, a yawning test. Oh, so she started to, like fake yawn every time that she looked away from him, or something like that, to like fake, you know, because if he saw her doing it, because it's all about if you have to see the person doing it, right? So,
Scott Benner 44:38
yeah, it's every time you say it, I yawn, go ahead. So she
Arden Benner 44:43
like, turned away, and she was like, every time I felt like he was looking I would yawn, and then I would kind of like, turn my head back to that area. And she was like, and finally, like, I saw him starting to yawn whenever I did, that's a good tip. That's
Scott Benner 44:54
a pro tip, a flirting pro tip. So do you want to know what else we do around each other? Smiling? Clapping, a standing ovation. If you stand up and start clapping, is that why we have to stand up at like, sporting events and concerts? Because once somebody stands up, everybody does it. No, I thought that was just kind of respect standing I never understand standing ovation. I'm at a baseball game. I can't sit and watch it. One guy stands up. Everybody stands up now. We're all standing for nine eggs, which I don't mind, because I'm used to standing at your games. But like also, here's one crossing your arms or crossing your legs. Oh,
Arden Benner 45:30
I saw I was I walk. I was walking like that yesterday because I was cold, because it's getting cold here now, and someone walking towards me, I saw them look at me and do the same thing. Their arms, cross their arms, yeah, almost like, oh yeah, it is cold out. I'm gonna cross my arms. Now. You've reminded me that it is cold and yeah,
Scott Benner 45:51
in a modern phenomenon, if one person in a group checks their phone often, other people's will very reflexively, yeah. Well, that makes sense. That makes perfect sense. Giggling, similar to laughing, giggling can be contagious, especially in awkward or quiet situations. Looking in a certain direction, you can look off and get other people to look off in that direction as well. Eating.
Arden Benner 46:12
Well, yeah, but that makes sense, because people will be like, What are you
Scott Benner 46:15
looking at? Yeah, I know. But also you could just not look that way. Eating, nodding. Start nodding. People nod along with you, right, uh, scratching or touching your face. That's what I said, touching your face probably. And in group settings, like a meeting, if one person stands up to leave, others may start to stand up too, almost like the like they think, like, oh, it's winding down or on board, and it's now okay to leave because someone else has thought it,
Arden Benner 46:43
yeah, it's like, one person closes their laptop in class, and suddenly the class is over. Yeah, very interesting. And I always sit there, like, do we not have like, 10 minutes left? Like, what are we doing? Like, what one person? That's like, one person gets out to go, and there's like, seven minutes left to class, the professor will be like, Okay, guess that's it for you guys. Goodbye. Like you can't control them anymore. It's insane. It's crazy,
Scott Benner 47:07
wild. Heard of like people leaving, yeah, and
Arden Benner 47:10
I always sit there and I'm like, no respect. That's crazy. I
Scott Benner 47:15
think you and I have done a public service here today with us. You agree it'd
Arden Benner 47:20
be a public service if any of these people could take my exam for me. So
Scott Benner 47:24
far, we've done inner monolog, money, fingernails. What blind people see? Why don't people get what about
Arden Benner 47:29
being itchy? Like, like lice? Like, when you say lice and people think their heads are itchy, okay,
Scott Benner 47:35
when or when you think a bug is falling on you? I said, What about when someone talks about having lice? When someone talks about having lice, many people immediately start to feel itchy and may begin to scratch their heads. This is a psychosomatic reaction where just hearing or thinking about something triggers physical sensations in the body, even though there's no real cause, like actually having lice, your awareness is heightened. You have you can get a sympathy itch, or even the like hypnosis, like the power of suggestion causes your brain and triggered a physical reaction. Does your head feel that? You know that we're talking about it? Yeah, on the left side, I have one in there. I feel like in the middle for a second, just I also kind of need to take a shower. So I'm not really sure what's going on. What was I just gonna say? Have you ever seen the a close up look at the bugs that live on your skin? Yeah, I don't. I'm good. You don't wanna do that. No, I'm fine. I'll be good without that, I think. But just personally, you know what I mean. So how's school going?
Arden Benner 48:35
It's fine. I have a lot of work to get done this week before I come home, so I'm not doing it all at home. But other than that, what do you
Scott Benner 48:42
ever What are you and I? You and I doing together when you come home? We have any plans? You should not tell the internet about that. Why? Because I need to get my Oh, the other thing, what were you talking Well, you've been gone for a while. So my eyebrows are a wreck.
Arden Benner 48:57
My eyebrows are too. I plucked a little bit right in here and right here, but it's just, it's never the same. I to get my nails done too.
Scott Benner 49:03
Mine are struggling. No, I had to. I had to, like, do some, like, weed whacking up there on my own. But my eyebrows suck, right? Yeah, mine are great. You do have great eyebrows. Mine are terrible. I don't like them at all. But, oh, we're gonna tan together, Dad, don't tell the internet that. Why don't do that. Don't tell them, you know, don't tell them about UV
Arden Benner 49:26
No, just as a man, don't tell them that you're getting
Scott Benner 49:29
I just came, we came back from vacation, and I know I understand. I completely get it feel like I looked better with a little bit of a tan, and now it's starting to fade, and I kind of want to punch it back. Everyone looks better with a little bit of a tan. I'm gonna punch it back up a little bit. Is there anything wrong with that? No, I'm just, am I the crazy one? What was that? It's an impression, something from a thing. Yeah, that you wouldn't know about one second. Sending you a picture, I think you need to see. Okay? I mean, sure, let me know when you say it stop. Don't send me that just a little bug that's on your skin, that's Is there a bug in the bug? Is there a bug in the bug? No, that's a picture of the bug. That's its mouth, all the little feelers and the pinchers and everything on it. It's crazy that that thing exists. You don't know it's there, and it's probably right now, like, in your butt hole, or between your teeth or on your toes or something like that. You picked probably the three worst places. And it's, well, yeah, I'm thinking of where, like, Where would I if I was a bug? Or would I really want to be in the dirty spots? You know, so like, but that you don't feel it moving,
Arden Benner 50:34
yeah, I don't understand. It's like, where their own little universe? That's
Scott Benner 50:38
right, you're, you're the universe, one of those little bugs. It's like, when does it end again? The are there bugs living on those bugs? Because I'm, I'm the earth version of this. Yeah, you're a little bug living on the Earth. Yeah, crazy. There can't be bugs living on the bugs, right? Because we'd see it with the microscope, wouldn't
Arden Benner 50:58
we? No, it's probably not strong enough. There probably is bugs living on the bugs. Wait, are there bugs? It just, it's just, literally, it never stops. But if you got reincarnated as this bug,
Scott Benner 51:10
I mean, it might be relaxing. Oh no. I was listening to an interview today about somebody making French fries, and I was like, That, sounds like a nice, relaxing job. Okay, so can I said, Are there bugs living on the little bugs that live on humans? Yes, there can be bugs that live on the bugs that live on humans. This is part of the concept known as hyper para Wait, hyper parasitism, where parasites themselves have parasites, in the context of
Arden Benner 51:40
Yeah, and so on and so forth. And this never ends well, this is why it's like, what like, we know about our universe, but what about other universe? Like, it's not crazy to think that there's like, other stuff, viruses
Scott Benner 51:53
are alive, right? Yeah. Or what about like, how, like, the coral reef is alive, or whatever. It feels like a apartment complex of people who just needed a place to stay to me, and they just jump on like, right? Because the corporal reef is just living things that live on a rock, and then they die and leave their ex ex, those skeletons. Is that what it is? Man, I don't know. Okay, some people, by the way, argue that viruses are alive, but some people say they're not. They don't have cellular structure. They can't reproduce on their own. They have no metabolism. But the the argument for them is they can reproduce with help. There seems to be evolution, and they interact. Sounds like me, what sounds like you? They can reproduce with a little health, with a little help, no metabolism. Your metabolism is pretty good, don't you think, yeah, it's average. A coral reef is primarily made up of living corals and calcium carbonate, which is like limestone structures that they produce. But where do they start from? Like, where do they start
Arden Benner 52:52
from? Where does anything start from? That has been my question since I can remember, there's living organisms, like coral. That's why like, even like, I'll hear about other people is like, like, all these different religions or whatever that people believe. And I'm like, This is great. This might be true, I don't know. But where does your thing start from? How did that come about? And then we just kind of look at each other, and we don't have the answer, yeah, because I know it didn't just pop out of thin air. That's not how that works.
Scott Benner 53:23
Well, there's, I mean, what are the I
Arden Benner 53:27
just don't understand how anything was made. Anything at all. I don't get it.
Scott Benner 53:32
So what are we looking for common thoughts about, like, how the planet began?
Arden Benner 53:36
No, don't even look that up. It's so deep. It's just because, like, think about it like this, like, we're made, okay? Our parents make us. We're all these different cells put together. But before humans existed, or whatever, there's like plants, but then plants are made from something. Something's made from something else. Everything's made from something, right? Everything's made up of something. But how does the first thing get made? How does anything exist? Yeah, how is how does space exist? Because space is made up of things too. What come first the chicken or the egg? Yeah. So how does space exist? But then, if there is no space, what is there? Because even when there is nothing, nothing is something. Because I was
Scott Benner 54:18
going to say, maybe it's even like the way the coral reef started, right? Like, stuff just congregates in one place, then keeps building. But where did that come that stuff get there, right? Yeah, you should see the extensive, like, amount of information that's coming back from my question, yeah, because
Arden Benner 54:33
it's probably, like, the greatest question in the world. Like, how, how do
Scott Benner 54:38
we? There are several widely accepted scientific theories and concepts about the beginning of planet Earth and the formation of the solar system, the solar nebula hypothesis, the formation of Earth, the cooling and solidification of Earth, the Haden effect. Hayden eon, the first few 100 million years of Earth's existence are known as the Hayden eon. On a period marked by extreme heat, widespread volcanic activity, frequent collisions with other space debris. It was chaotic. It's fine, but where did all that come from? Well, then I, at the very end of all this, I asked the other the follow up question, where did the material for that come from? It says, And it said, Man, I don't know. The material that formed Earth and the rest of the solar system came from the remnants of earlier cosmic events, particularly from the death of pre previous generations of stars. But
Arden Benner 55:26
where do the stars come from? But where did that come from? Like we could just keep going forever, right? Doesn't make any sense. Well,
Scott Benner 55:33
I mean, it does make sense. It just you don't know where it came from. Don't you want to know? So bad. I mean, I'd like to know. Oh, that is my biggest question. So the big bang theory is the beginning of the observable universe 13 point 8, billion years ago. So I think the idea is that what we're able to know is how far back we're able to look, and that's based on how strong our telescopes are. Yeah, because, what's happening to us right now is the end of some reaction or action that happened at the beginning. So wherever the beginning was, there was a beginning that it all just kind of moved out in 360 degrees. When
Arden Benner 56:14
you look into space, you can, you can see like in the past, or you can see, like, what's going to happen in the future, or something, right?
Scott Benner 56:20
You can see what's coming. Yeah, so crazy. That makes no sense at all. Singularity. That's
Arden Benner 56:26
why, when people ask the question, if you could have they're like, Oh, you can have dinner with one person, dead or alive. I always say, like, whoever it is that, like, knows where everything started. Whoever that person is, that's the person you're looking for. That is the person I want to talk to. So there are obviously limits to our current knowledge about this, but this is pretty awesome. You should go to chat GPT and ask this question. Do you know in second grade, we had to write, we're supposed to write an essay on anything we wanted. And I asked my teacher if I could write it on like that. I was like, I don't understand where we come from. And she's like, let's take a new topic.
Scott Benner 56:59
How about cats? Do you like kittens? They're very Yeah,
Arden Benner 57:03
actually, I ended up, I ended up writing a story about how a dog got hit by a car. Did you that's
Scott Benner 57:07
what you went to? Yeah, you are now, think we're getting the answer to this one. I know it's so annoying. It's my it's my biggest mystery, interesting. I think some people are just gonna say, like, like, I think that if
Arden Benner 57:19
you were in a situation where you were murdered, and I didn't know who murdered you, and I was someone said, I can either tell you who murdered your father, or I can tell you how everything was created. I I'm sorry, but
Scott Benner 57:30
you're already dead. So yeah, so you know, whatever, even if you were to say, I think God made all of this, that's cool. Where did he? Where did he come or she? Where did they come from? Then? Yeah, exactly. I see your point. You can't just like God, like no God, have little bugs living on his skin.
Arden Benner 57:52
If I was God, I would make sure no bugs lives on my skin. All right, let's stop there. Be like, you know what? Let's not, let's not have that.
Scott Benner 58:01
All right, well, let's stop there. I think we've done a great job today. I hope people stuck the John Mulaney reading, because it was definitely worth it. I appreciate doing this with you. I like getting together once a week while you're away at school. I think this is pretty awesome. I'm getting nice feedback about the podcast from
Arden Benner 58:16
people. Whoever gives you the bad feedback, give me their number. I'll talk to Yeah. What are you gonna say to them recently, it was, it's for when I have to talk to them. Oh, I just logged wait. Recently there was bad feedback. No, recently
Scott Benner 58:27
there was great feedback about the money episode.
Arden Benner 58:31
A money episode, yeah, we talked honestly. I can't lie. I don't know what you're talking
Scott Benner 58:35
about. Oh, that's awesome. Do you know when Isabelle and I just talked about this last night? She's like, do you think you'll ever I literally do
Arden Benner 58:42
so much stuff here, like, I don't know what we've talked about. I know we talked about Bridget Mendler, and I know that's where my knowledge ends.
Scott Benner 58:49
We've talked about internal monolog, money, fingernails, what blind people see? Why don't people get sarcasm? Bridget Mendler, and today we did. Why is laughter, yawning, coughing, etc, contagious? I remember
Arden Benner 59:03
the what blind people see thing pretty well. I remember a little bit of the fingernails, because I just, like, wished you would stop using big words, but that's about
Scott Benner 59:11
it. I just logged online to see where I don't see it here, but what popped up in front of me is there's a person in the private Facebook group that's celebrating their five, five, a, 1c, they're super excited. So that's awesome. But there were people who were who liked the money episode a lot that you and I talked
Arden Benner 59:28
about, I wish I remembered it. I couldn't. I can't tell you you didn't listen. What was
I don't listen to those
anyway, that brought supposed to listen to myself. Yeah, I had the conversation, I know.
Scott Benner 59:40
But people come to me and they ask me about what happened on episodes, and I'm like, I say the same thing. I'm like, I don't know. Like, I talk about it, and then I ship this off to an editor. So I don't I used to at least do the editing myself, so I would get to hear the conversation again six months later. And then when it went up, when it went up, then people. Asked me a question. I'm like, Oh, I just heard this last week, because I was you
Arden Benner 1:00:03
asked me what I learned in class today, and it took me a while to, like, I only retrieved like, one thing of what I learned. Like, I don't know. Yeah, that's a lot to ask. You. Think
Scott Benner 1:00:11
people learn while they're sleeping? Like, is that possible? We'll figure that out a later date. Nevermind. All right, and we and that's, I have to pee so bad. Go P we're done. Okay, bye. Anyway,
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