#342 Everything the Light Touches

Kyle Banks is a broadway performer living with type 1 diabetes

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello and welcome to Episode 342 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's show is sponsored by Omni pod and Dexcom. You can find out more about the Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor by going to dexcom.com forward slash juice box. And to find out more and even get a free no obligation demo of the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump sent directly to you go to my Omni pod.com forward slash juice box.

Today on the show I'm gonna be speaking with Kyle banks. Kyle is a Broadway actor. And I'm sure you've probably seen him as I think we've all seen the Lion King on Broadway, right? Like everybody. Anyway, Kyle has type one diabetes. He's here today to talk about his journey, as well as what's going on currently in the world. And also tell me a little bit about his organization called Kyler cares, which you should check out at Kyler cares.org.

Don't be shocked. Kyle has an incredibly deep voice. He's going to make me sound like a five year old girl singing in the choir. Please don't forget that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, please always consult a physician before making changes to your healthcare plan. or becoming bold with insulin. Do you hear me trying to get deeper so that in a second it sounds

Kyle Banks 1:42
like I'm not.

Scott Benner 1:43
Thank you. Why do you say how's got a nice voice?

Kyle Banks 1:57
Kyle Banks here. Actor and it's diagnosed with Type One Diabetes about five years ago this coming November?

Scott Benner 2:07
How old are you now?

I am 4343. So you Wow. 38.

Kyle Banks 2:13
Yeah. diagnosed later in life.

Scott Benner 2:16
Anyone in the family that made you feel like this was a possibility? Or no, I'm the only lucky one. I assume that means you get the bigger piece of meat at Thanksgiving and things like Oh, oh, yes.

Unknown Speaker 2:30
Sure.

Scott Benner 2:32
If it's not the diabetes?

Kyle Banks 2:34
Yeah, I'll definitely I definitely use it to my advantage. No kidding.

Scott Benner 2:38
Well, that's, I mean, that's, you know, I guess to say, that I'm shocked by the age is a little bit of a fallacy because I've interviewed enough people now at every age to know what happens, but it really just isn't in what you would consider the sweet spot of getting typos. Maybe?

Kyle Banks 2:52
Yeah, most definitely. How did it present? I mean, people used to tell me this all the time, and it would kiss me off in the beginning. But now I totally get what they mean by if they would say you're lucky that you were diagnosed later in life? Like, what do you mean, this is horrible? Why would anybody want to be diagnosed with this at all, but I totally get what they mean, because they'd be diagnosed with it earlier. And just knowing that goes into it. And all that it requires of you. I do share that sentiment now.

Scott Benner 3:25
I wouldn't have to think and I'll be, you know, obviously, I don't know. But a couple of things come into my mind. First of all, the idea of complications, the earlier you start the more time diabetes has to work on Yes, but also as an adult, it's got to be a little easier to see a shift in your life and adjust to it then

Kyle Banks 3:47
most definitely things

Scott Benner 3:48
like that has happened before, right? I mean, not on this scale, but still you've had a place to live and then suddenly not had a place to live had a had a you know had a you know, I don't know you were dating somebody and then all of a sudden they were gone. Like that kind of stuff is an adjustment when you're 18 or that's that's tough. So

Kyle Banks 4:04
yeah, well yeah, I've also made decisions like for my life as far as like nutrition and just certain things that I've I've removed from like my diet and the way in which I've developed like exercise and in have incorporated that in my life. Now, definitely much better suited to deal with it now than I would have been years ago. So where were you?

Scott Benner 4:31
I guess professionally, what were you doing at 38?

Kyle Banks 4:35
Well, I've been performing on Broadway for since I was 25. So is on on tour at the time of my diagnosis and traveling. It just been wrapped up three months in Canada, and had just gotten to California. We were touring California for about two months. It's

Scott Benner 4:59
helped me expand Understand that and explain it to people because I live close enough to New York that when you say Broadway, there is a picture I get my mind. But people who live across the country, when when shows are incredibly popular. Eventually they they hit the road, right?

Kyle Banks 5:14
Right, the road, touring with Lion King at the time. And Lion King is based in New York, where it sits. But there's also a touring production that tours the country. So I bounce back and forth between the Broadway production and the touring show. That's interesting. So

Scott Benner 5:33
Wow, is that based on your desire to move around? I mean, I'm assuming there's some people who don't want to tour or is that not within your purview to make that decision to they just tell you, this is where you're going. Now, this is where you're

Kyle Banks 5:47
at? It's totally up to me, like, no one's putting a gun to my head, say you have to tour? No, initially, I was on Broadway for like, maybe five years. And I was asked if I would be interested in going up to the tour to fill in sometimes. And initially, I was like, No, I'm working in New York. Like, why would I go out to the tour and perform in Kennebunkport, Maine, right like that. But I had no idea that the tour actually pays more money, a lot more money.

Scott Benner 6:18
And you don't have to pay to live in New York anymore. It's probably

Kyle Banks 6:21
Oh, yes, yes. Yes. So I was like, why? After I learned that, I was like, why did you come to me sooner with this offer?

Scott Benner 6:28
When we were really young, my wife worked for a company that was in Manhattan, and she commuted in and out every day. And then one day, she didn't anymore. And she was in New Jersey, and her first paycheck came after New Jersey, and I called her on the phone. I was like, yo, they made a big mistake. Don't tell anybody. But it was just not paying the taxes in New York. Exactly. Yeah, very well. That's cool. So how long did you do the boat? I guess, how long did you perform in Manhattan? And how long were you doing the toy?

Kyle Banks 6:54
Well, I am, I'm a swing, I'm calling for this call the universal swing. So I have in and out of the show as needed. People will take a real job. So we have like vacations, people to take time off the six Luke sick leave. Because Lion King is such a high intense show with physical, physical activity. There are a lot of injuries. So I hop in as needed. So I part of the time I'm in New York, part of the time I'm on tour just just depends on where the need is.

Scott Benner 7:29
That's interesting. It's not something that would ever I mean, it makes perfect sense. But it's not something that would occur to me.

Kyle Banks 7:35
That's really that the show has to go on regardless, like what's going on with the actors. So there's always someone there to fill in.

Scott Benner 7:43
Can you do multiple roles? Mm hmm. Okay.

Kyle Banks 7:47
Yes, yes. Yes. You

Scott Benner 7:48
have like a sweet spot, like where you are where you did one more than another? Or does it not even work like that?

Kyle Banks 7:54
It doesn't work like that. It's just basically where the need is. The principal characters, they, they're really good about coming to work, and just being there and being present. But you know, sometimes no injuries happen. It said, people just need a break for family time, or personal refunds, or whatever the case may be.

Scott Benner 8:16
So you're in Canada headed to California, and how do you win? What's the first time you don't feel? Well?

Kyle Banks 8:22
Well, I began having vocal issues of cannabis. So I was traveling back and forth to the states to visit in T specialists to pay to go to visit EMT specialists to sort of help me figure out what was going on with me vocally. And once we got once we got to California, I was still having issues. So I continued to visit specialists in whatever area we were in just so that I could get through work and eat specialists prescribed for me prednisone, steroids. To help deal with some of the inflammation I was experiencing on my vocal cords. I was on prednisone for about two and a half months at a very high dose. And so maybe about two towards the end of like the two and a half months, I'll begin experiencing like these other symptoms that just started out of nowhere. Like the extreme hunger and extreme thirst and the constant urination and exhaustion, which is just awful when you're doing a show like The Lion King because what you need most is energy. And I I didn't pay much attention to it. I just noticed that I was feeling off. But what really got me to to visit a Urgent Care Physician in California was I just looked in the mirror one day and I was like, wow, I look really gone. I didn't even I hadn't even noticed that over the course of three weeks, I'd lost like 30 pounds, okay. And that's scared the hell out of me. So I ran to the urgent care doctor that day. And he tested my glucose. And he suspected that I had steroid induced type two diabetes. Interesting and suggested I go to the emergency room, I was like, well, I can't do that. I have a show in like two hours. But we'll just, he gave me prescribed Metformin for me. So I began taking the Metformin. And two weeks later, I still wasn't feeling I wasn't feeling any better. So I spoke with my mom, and she suggested that I come to New Orleans and visit her doctor and get a formal checkup. Right. And at that point, she took instruct that physician instructed me to go to the emergency room.

Scott Benner 10:52
I can't so I'm looking at you, but I'm only looking at you from like, chest up, but you look like a bigger person. 30 pounds. Where were you when you lost? 30 pounds? How much do you weigh?

Kyle Banks 11:00
I was typically like, between 175 180 Wow,

Scott Benner 11:04
you went down to like a a teenager's weight? Yeah. How tall? Are you? 620. My goodness, you must have been there for most.

Kyle Banks 11:14
I was looking like Skeletor. And out there.

It happened. It happened so fast. I noticed a drastic amount of weight. But I mean, when it when it falls off so quickly. You don't say anything? You don't see it.

Scott Benner 11:26
Yeah, I can only see Arden in a couple of photos. And then think how was it possible that we didn't notice that? Yes. Wait, you know?

Kyle Banks 11:35
Yeah, when I look back at photos of me, like you take a lot of photos, we clown a lot backstage. So I definitely looked ill did not look well, at all, at some

Scott Benner 11:46
point someone had to make the joke that you look like the week is Ellen, the line was definitely gonna get you.

Kyle Banks 11:52
The dancers can be a little sick, and that they you know, the ballerina body and everyone wants to be slim. And so they like work. You look.

Like, I look amazing, but I feel like I'm gonna pass out. Right?

Scott Benner 12:08
That's terrible, man. It really is. Especially true, because I can see a bunch of things coming here at 38. I mean, you're in amazing shape. Obviously, you're the only thing on me that is built like he was like one of my fingers. They're pretty thin. And so like, You're, you're in great shape. But But I think my bigger point is that at 38 do start thinking, am I getting older? Like, is this just time coming after me? Or, you know, yeah,

Kyle Banks 12:33
that that was definitely a thought, like, you know, maybe, maybe my metabolism is slowing down? Maybe my endurance is slowing down like I could I couldn't figure out what was going on. I just started taking more vitamins in that moment, hoping that it would help

Scott Benner 12:51
just using I realized you've been in other things, but just using Lion King, what's the what's the timeframe, you arrive when how long as the show run? How long you actually onstage,

Kyle Banks 13:03
we arrive at the show a half hour before the curtain goes up and gives us enough time like warm up, stretch, vocalize put on makeup wardrobe for the show. And the show runs for two hours and 40 minutes. Okay. So it's a long show.

Scott Benner 13:25
And I'm assuming you're walking and probably to the to the theater, and then there's just a lot of activity. And then there's

Kyle Banks 13:31
a lot of Yeah,

Scott Benner 13:32
and they are out there doing what you're doing. And everything's I said Is it is it a hype song I tried to figure this out. Because I obviously, we've been to a number of shows in my life, not just a couple, but a lot. It's interesting. If you hang around a little bit, or you're having lunch across the street afterwards or something, you'll see the performers just roll out the back door. And it's no different than if you hang out at a baseball game long enough in the parking lot. Eventually you will see 40 guys walking to their cars, you know leaving the Yes. And and I use my son as an example. Like when he's like they're so loose in the dugout when it's not their turn to do something. And then all of a sudden, it's like work time and you just something comes over them. So now I'm imagining that behind the curtain, very just a bunch of foolish people making nonsense, that all of a sudden it's time to roll out on stage and do your thing is that sort of like that.

Kyle Banks 14:22
That is the most accurate.

Scott Benner 14:29
That is very fun. Now it makes me wonder what those rockets are doing during the Christmas show.

Kyle Banks 14:33
Madness backstage. I mean, the real show happens behind the curtain. Sure.

Unknown Speaker 14:38
That sounds really interesting.

Scott Benner 14:44
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Kyle Banks 19:36
As hospitalized for two days and give them instruction about like you know how to inject insulin and and released sent out to the world to that's it Yeah,

my new life with Type One Diabetes.

Scott Benner 19:54
Yeah. Did you put on any weight in the hospital.

Kyle Banks 19:57
Again, my weight came back immediately.

I probably gained back all the weight I lost in it just as fast as I dropped it. Yeah,

Scott Benner 20:07
it's really interesting.

Kyle Banks 20:08
Mm hmm. It was just starting for those nutrients. And once the insulin got in, it was able to process it. Do what it was supposed to do again didn't Yeah.

Scott Benner 20:17
Have you looked back yet? and thought, wow, I was almost dead. Did you have you had that thought?

Kyle Banks 20:25
Yes. Yeah, yes, I could remember like, after the show would be so exhausted like I would have to sit in my dressing room for in the last thing we want to do is hang out in the theater after the show. We just want to get out and just whatever we do after the show, but I would literally sit in my dresser for sometimes two hours, just gain enough strength to like put on my pants and wash my wash the makeup off my face and walk to the hotel room across the street. It was definitely the close. I know I was really close to die. Yeah.

Scott Benner 21:00
Especially when your body starts giving away like that. The weight loss waste

Kyle Banks 21:04
such a wasting away. Yeah,

Scott Benner 21:07
cuz it starts getting into your muscles. And before you know it. I don't know. It's just It's terrible. I look back at Arden sometimes. And I think how close were we? You know, the doctors put a number on it. But you know, they're guessing But still, they thought they thought she'd be in a coma in another 24 hours. Yeah. And we brought her in and I was like, how did you get to Louisiana? You didn't drive in that condition? Did you

Kyle Banks 21:26
know we flying was a thing? You know, before the pandemic. I was like on a plane? At least three, maybe four times? Yeah,

Scott Benner 21:34
yeah, I get these notes. Now. They're like, hey, you'll come speak at this thing. And I'm like,

Unknown Speaker 21:40
maybe I will. Could I do it through like zoom or something?

Kyle Banks 21:43
Right. Now I'm driving everywhere.

Unknown Speaker 21:46
Can you wrap me in plastic and put me on the

Unknown Speaker 21:48
plane? To get sick?

Scott Benner 21:52
Meanwhile, it's probably gonna be fine. But you know, I don't know. The whole world seems like it's going crazy. Right? I guess for context for time. You and I are talking towards the end of COVID-19 while people are starting to go back and in the middle of the video church flirt riots. So right.

Kyle Banks 22:09
Yeah, every that's fascinating times in which we live. Yeah,

Scott Benner 22:13
no kidding. I, I'm just encapsulated by it for the last couple of days. Just you know, trying to wrap your head around. Everyone's perspective. Yeah, it's so clear how where everyone lands. Just think like, how are these things gonna find common? You know? Yeah, it's really, it's really ridiculous.

Kyle Banks 22:35
Anyway, at least

Scott Benner 22:37
Yeah. We it is ridiculous, right? Because you see somebody, you know, you see, see protests that seem well organized and intended. And you think, okay, that's right. And then four hours later, some guys like, you know, I could probably just piggyback off this to get myself a pair of sneakers. And, and then it becomes crazy. And someone thinks to light something on fire. And you're like, What is? What are you thinking?

Kyle Banks 23:03
Yeah, you know? Yeah, really? Yeah. Yeah. They really, they really went off in New York City and hit all of the high end shops.

Scott Benner 23:13
My daughter comes running down last night she goes, you should see what they're ripping off. And in Hollywood. She's like, She's like, a lot of people are gonna have great Pam bags. And it's so sad. Like, it really is. Yeah, I was listening to a family member of Mr. fluids. And he said he would not want people doing this. And yeah, you know, you just it the whole thing's heartbreaking. I don't even know how to,

Kyle Banks 23:37
you know, it really is. But yeah, to have people, like you said, piggybacking off of this moment, off of the protest, and using it as an opportunity to cause chaos.

Unknown Speaker 23:52
Or to put is pretty

Scott Benner 23:54
good, or to put any other thing in motion that I'll tell you. And I know, this isn't why you're on but it's just so timely at the moment. I saw a person make the point last night, that the rioting is a far left conspiracy to keep small businesses closed. And I was like, What? Wow. So wait, you're telling me that somebody went to Minneapolis, found a guy willing to murder someone with his knee and said, yo, we really need to keep the small businesses closed the next time you pull over a black guy could you kill him for me? Like, like,

Kyle Banks 24:27
Who thinks that way? That's deep.

Unknown Speaker 24:32
Crazy, is what it is. And I was like, I'm like, that's that's

Scott Benner 24:37
I mean, I guess the next question is, how much of this did the Illuminati have to do with and I was I just I backed away slowly. And I was like, that's enough internet for today. It really was fascinating. What's the impact on your day to day life right now is Is there any Are you just hiding inside waiting to go back to work like everybody else?

Kyle Banks 24:58
Oh, just hiding inside. waiting to go back to work like everyone else. And I'm here in New Orleans at the moment with my mom has a lot of like underlying condition. So I couldn't make it a point to like, continue quarantining, not seeing any of my friends that lived here. And if we do, like an outside spaces where the social properly social, or social distancing properly, and it's making sure I don't bring anything home to my mom, but um, I think, of course, I'm affected by all of the protests, just watching what's happening. On the news, it's troubling to see. Yeah. But, you know, it's definitely something that the protests was definitely something that's needed. There's so much pain and suffering happening right now. And it's just like the perfect storm with with George with George Floyd and Ahmad arbury. And then there's the situation in Central Park, you know, in couple of that with like, all of the suffering from the pandemic and people losing their jobs and not having ways to like provide food for their families. I guess nervous, which is really frayed. It's a powder keg.

Scott Benner 26:22
It really is. Yeah, I think my mom was that he was the guy that was jogging, right?

Kyle Banks 26:26
Yes. jogging. And yeah, I just

Scott Benner 26:28
kept thinking is this was going on? I was like, at some point, there's a tipping point in here, and we're gonna find it, you know. And it's just horrible. It's horrible. And I have to say, I hundred percent agree with you. At some point. You have to protest. Like, you have to go out in the street. You have to yell and scream. Yeah, I mean, you shouldn't be. I mean, first of all, if you're going to steal don't steal from $1. General, because what are you risking getting locked up for? For like a squishy ball in a cup? This like holds a lot? Yeah, I try to try a little harder than that, I guess. But seriously, they're coming out. I'm like, what could you need out of there? But anyway,

Kyle Banks 27:07
they were definitely successful it with that New York and LA on Melrose Place. But yeah, it is just awful, though. You can't just keep

Scott Benner 27:15
it things like this cannot continue to happen. And we just act like Oh, yeah. This is the thing that happens every six months. Yeah, you know,

Kyle Banks 27:23
this happened. I do you think it's good that the news is hasn't really been distracted with their messaging about what the protests are about as a result of like, all the fires that have been said, in the stores that are being looted? You know, they're still that they're reporting that, you know, especially NYPD is, it's reported that, you know, they know for sure that their outside influences, you know, sort of antagonizing the situation. And, you know, but it was was George Floyd is still like the center of

Unknown Speaker 28:00
the protest. I, I heard that. I think that's

Kyle Banks 28:02
a beautiful thing. Me too.

Scott Benner 28:04
I had heard that too. I'm sorry, I stepped on you there. But. So this When this happens, when people see protesting, then other groups can say, Hey, listen, if we send some people in there to cause trouble, they're gonna blame those minorities for that. And, you know, and it really is. Some people's minds work very deviously in a way that, uh, I don't, I can't appreciate, you know, so I just, I'm one of those like, I guess I'm crazy. I think just go do what you're doing, do a good job at it. That'll work out and you don't if it doesn't, doesn't work out for everybody. Keep going. You don't even like it just seems like life to me. But anyway, it was interesting what you said before about wanting to be out a little bit, but not wanting to be bringing something back to your mom, because she's got underlying issues. But also, if you looked at a lot of the deaths, being black was not a great thing for having COVID-19 Oh, yeah. And is that something community wide that people are aware of? And is it discussed?

Kyle Banks 29:06
Oh, yes. Yeah, no, here in New Orleans. I have a family distant family members that contracted to the COVID-19 and many households that lost their lives like a mother and two siblings. My mom's first cousins so distant relatives to me, but yeah, personally we know and friends of my mom's had lost their lives. So it's definitely in the effects of it have definitely been felt.

Scott Benner 29:41
Right. There's a when when Broadway opens back up, which there's no timeline for that yet as they're shooting for December But no, it's a it's a it's a touchy situation. Would you be able to go back if it was December, like for you in your heart personally.

Kyle Banks 30:00
I want to, you know, I'm hoping that things, I mean, I definitely would not do it if, as the as the way things are now, but you know if if there's a vaccine or if the if the virus seems to take a break in the coming months, and I'll definitely consider it. I mean, I love my job. I love what I do, and to not be able to do it is a it's a bit nerve wracking, but

Scott Benner 30:29
I'm picturing a lot of like paunchy gazelles jumping behind. So people have been on the sofa long too long, those first couple shows. Mommy does that. Does that look tired to you?

Kyle Banks 30:44
He does, sweetie. At his mom's house.

Scott Benner 30:50
Oh, my gosh, what? How much effort would it take to put you back into physical shape to perform?

Kyle Banks 30:57
Oh, well, I just I recently, about a month ago, I started working out again, because sitting on the couch is definitely taking effect.

Scott Benner 31:07
Your mom's probably cooking better than they do wherever you

Kyle Banks 31:11
most definitely. So spin stretching and working out at home. And so I'm getting, I'm getting getting in pretty good shape.

Scott Benner 31:19
I was talking to my son the other day because he should be. He should have been playing baseball through the spring. And then he gets a little break. And then he goes and plays in the summer. And I said to him, I was like, you gotta and he's working out sporadically. But he's like, it's hard to just without a goal. You can do maintenance stuff, but when you know, I have tasks I perform, and I know how to work out to support those tasks. And he's like, Can I do the workout and then I don't have the the other side of it is it gets it's kind of it feels useless a little bit in its interest. It really is interesting. basketball games are gonna be much more lower scoring by the time this is

Kyle Banks 32:00
bronze, like whoa, slow down.

I mean, the wake up call for me was I tried to put on a pair of jeans a few weeks ago. And I was like,

Scott Benner 32:11
well, in the beginning, I'm sorry.

Kyle Banks 32:15
All of my clothes are like basically the same size. So shopping. I need to do something about this

Scott Benner 32:23
to be hanging out in Louisiana in your underwear. Well, I tried to when this all happened. In the beginning, I looked at myself and I was like Scott, you cannot afford to gain any weight. So I just sort of went the other way. I've lost 11 pounds since COVID-19 started, because I like nice. I'm like I'm gonna have to like willfully go backwards. Or I'm gonna, you know, I don't know what will happen because trust me, I can't dance. And I can't hit a baseball either. So I'd be in a bit of trouble. When you left the hospital was it injections a pen? They give you a glucose monitor. How did all that kind

Kyle Banks 33:01
of pin hemlock pin and

lace?

moving a hammock pin and

Scott Benner 33:13
lattice for your slow Atlantis?

Yeah. Are you on the block? Now? Where do you still inject?

Kyle Banks 33:18
I'm on him on a pump and glucose monitor.

Scott Benner 33:22
Okay, what are you use? Dexcom? What? What pump? do you have? Omni pod? Could you write for the show?

Kyle Banks 33:29
All right. twinsies

Scott Benner 33:32
You certainly. Except trust me she she can't sing. So

Unknown Speaker 33:39
you know my pump?

Unknown Speaker 33:41
I lost your car.

Scott Benner 33:44
Good. I'm going yeah, all of a sudden you were like my pump and you were just going. So

Kyle Banks 33:49
yeah, my pump actually a malfunction. About two weeks ago, the PDM

Scott Benner 33:54
or the word PDF. Okay.

Kyle Banks 33:57
So I had to go back to the pins to add so luckily, I had the pins kenalog pins and Atlantis pins on me. And I'm surprised you I have to thank you so much. Because you have just given me I feel like it might be like two years ago I was introduced podcast is just researching, just looking for like more information on how to better take care of myself. And it was a

so sorry. Oh, who is that? That is a lovely Daesil What's the name? bazel bazel

like ardens bazel. Exactly. It's lazy bait. Exactly. Uh huh. Like if I if I have to think about bolusing and bazeley at least it's gonna bring a smile to my just

Scott Benner 34:55
Bell be an adorable dog. That's 100% true. I know. But thanks happier when I see him running around, I have this word attached to something else. But I can't believe that bazel would bark in the middle of you saying something amazing about me. So let's not overlook there.

Kyle Banks 35:13
But yeah, you know, you really just gave me like, the, the push, I needed to begin making decisions for with regard to my health and insulin therapy and, and just all of it. It's been great because it was at that point when I heard you know, being bold with insulin. Does that mean? And you know, just listening to you talk about like your experience with helping Ireland? Um, yeah, it just gave me the push, I need to just make some necessary changes.

Scott Benner 35:50
I appreciate knowing that. Thank you for sharing that with me. What was what was your life like? outcomes wise, prior to that those first three years, I guess, oh, just

Kyle Banks 36:01
a constant Yo, yo, okay. Like I would go, I would go to work and make sure that my glucose was really high. Because I knew that by the end of work, I would be crashing. So it was no real control. I didn't know what I was doing. I was just trying to get through, get through the show. And the only way I knew to do that was to just let myself go high. Otherwise, I would be crashing by intermission.

Scott Benner 36:26
I say I say how high did you have to come in at to make it through?

Kyle Banks 36:30
Not to 10? Okay.

Scott Benner 36:34
And then the effort and so was that? That was with pens too, right? That was pins for the for six months into my diagnosis, and then I moved over to the pot. Okay, so you still had your settings are off far enough with the pumps, though, that you've? So what do you do now to get ready? Is it do temp back, your basal rates,

Kyle Banks 36:54
sent back my bazel rates if I'm I'm, I'm from around 100 I'll cut my pot off completely for like an hour. Because activity will usually and I'm not not eating so the activity will usually sustain me. Yeah. And I'll still need a snack by intermission to keep from crashing. Okay. Um, but yeah, I definitely have a better system in play a healthier system, because I would not have a blast doing that, Oh,

Scott Benner 37:27
just a small portion of your check. When you go back in December, you just send it to the house, I'll say, for some time, just pick it's maybe it would be more reasonable. Now. That seriously, that's, that's really amazing. Do you can you I guess was my question. Can you describe to me Why have you ever been performing and felt yourself going low? What do you do in that situation?

Kyle Banks 37:51
That's another thing like the stress of like going low and having to drop out of scenes and having stage management so that when something happens in that show, it's like it's, it's it's just starts like a whole wrecking ball of like different departments needing to, if I drop out of the scene and stage management has to be contacted may have to notify the sound department which has to notify the wardrobe department in order to get another actor ready. And just at times, I was going low a lot, I have to drop out of scenes a lot. And I just really felt like I was affecting the show in a horrible way. Although Disney was they were very, really wonderful about it all making me feel they were more concerned about my safety. But me personally, I just felt like I was destroying the integrity of the show. At

Scott Benner 38:46
some point, it's got to be in the back of your head. Like they're not gonna put up with this forever. Right? Yeah, it gets some point. They're gonna say, look, we need, we need some consistency here from you. And we're sorry about your health problems. But, you know, this specific job Well, I'm glad that that didn't end up being the case.

Kyle Banks 39:00
And I'm really grateful to do and they were I mean, it's a it took me a while to figure it out. So they dealt with this for a few, maybe a year. Wow. So they were really they were really patient and understanding about me learning how to use this new technology that I'm using now. It's lovely.

Scott Benner 39:22
You said that you made some adjustments to your diet. Can you walk me through what you did?

Kyle Banks 39:28
Well, I'm not adjustments as far as being diagnosed was concerned. A few years before I was diagnosed, I began eating plant based diet. And And so yeah, that's, that's the I consume a totally plant based diet and I do believe that that has aided me a lot with regard to being able to to gain control.

Scott Benner 39:57
Okay, but the stuff you learned on the podcast applies Just as well to plant base as it does to prime Yeah, right.

Kyle Banks 40:03
Yeah. I mean, cuz boots do I mean it affects your glucose. So it even greens. So I mean it'd be minimal but they still have effect.

Scott Benner 40:13
It's funny there are some there are some vegetables that have more carbs in them, then you would venture to guess you know? Yeah, I'm always interested when people you know, in the beginning we start talking to them, they're so bad. I'm sorry for everybody listening, but you guys are so bad at like guessing carbs for for foods. And it's always I don't understand I did the right thing is such a confirmation bias like I counted, right? So I'll stop thinking about that portion of it. It's something else is the diabetes very common to get me you know what I mean? And, and I'm like, No, it's just you, you know, did you not count all this here? Or the fat or the protein like that stuff that no one tells you to think about it really? And

Kyle Banks 40:55
isn't it beginning, maybe, maybe for that entire year, I was probably given myself. I was dosing for 15 grams, regardless what was on my plate,

Scott Benner 41:07
that was just your go to.

Kyle Banks 41:09
That was my goal to Yeah.

Scott Benner 41:10
Now I've seen people that I might go to for artists 50. Just always like, it's too much. We'll figure it out later. But we're not going to have it be too little. That's for sure. Because too little just starts to little happen today. So you know, you and I were supposed to record a little earlier. And I had a hiccup in my day, which left me out of the house when Arden had breakfast. And Kelly did a pretty good job with her helping her with, you know, the overall amount of insulin. But their Pre-Bolus wasn't good enough. And so it started shooting up, I got home I fixed you know, I worked on fixing it. But it's now I'm looking at a graph, I can see. We're like three hours into this. Now, we stopped it at 200. And now she's more like 150. And she'll be back again. So our, you know, our meal disasters aren't maybe the same as other people sometimes. But still, it was all still the same problem. It was she used the right amount of insulin at the wrong time. The food got ahead of her. And now suddenly, we're scampering to put more in that isn't too much and and then it ruins a ruins a gap of her day. It now makes you think about diabetes for three hours. Yeah, you know, instead of just getting it in at the right time and being done with it.

Kyle Banks 42:25
So Well, that was another thing that I got from you just Pre-Bolus thing. I mean, what a game changer that was. Was that it should say,

Scott Benner 42:35
yeah, just putting the putting the insulin in a position to to have a chance. I mean, really is all you're doing right. That's very cool. That's excellent. I'm

Kyle Banks 42:45
hoping a lot of people Scott, I really hope you, you get that. realized how important informative the work you're doing is That's very kind of you. Thank you.

Scott Benner 42:56
I was gonna say that Kyle met. So Kyle was introduced to me by Sam and as you will remember, I think, what is her episode called Sam is the Robin Hood of type. I don't know, there's something about I really, I know, I'm sorry about how I named the episodes. But anyway, so Sam is Sam is a is a person who's just amazing at handling, like kind of stuff you would never think about, like with insurance companies and, and hammering on them for to help people and stuff like that. So Sam reached out and said, you know, Kyle wants to be on the show. And I just thought she knew you. And that was like, I was like, great. But she does. He loves the show. And I was like that's not true. Because then I got like, I felt a little giddy. You know, I was like, you know, and and I was like that's that's really cool. I thought she was just being polite at first.

Kyle Banks 43:44
When when you texted me I told you is so weird. I'm like listening to you right now. And now you're texting.

Scott Benner 43:51
I have to admit that when you said that I felt weird to so we were both on uncomfortable. The difference. Like, I was like I I see the downloads. But you know, I had a conversation with a woman last night for five minutes, that who's thinking about coming on the show to talk about something touchy and difficult. And she wanted to talk a little first. And she started telling me about how the podcast helped there. And it's hard to know how to respond. Honestly, like, I appreciate it. And I feel it I really do. But it's don't it's strange to have so many people saying something similar to you and and you feel it every time. But if I really let myself I'd start crying. You could have made me cry if you would have went a little longer just now I would have been like, Kyle's doing better. And he gets the dance now, you know, like and Scott, you did that and you know, like I could easily fall apart. I'm a very emotional person. So I have to kind of hold it back a little bit, right. I literally I can't cry every time somebody sends a note. But it almost happens to me a lot. And my family makes fun of me when it happens. Just so you know. They're like There he is. He looks weepy and

Kyle Banks 45:00
Some pleasant for me is when I'm saying I have a positive impact on people's lives can be an emotional thing for sure. No,

Scott Benner 45:07
I appreciate that. I really don't. But in your you have a an organization that you started?

Kyle Banks 45:14
Yes, yes. It's called Kyler cares. We found it a year ago. And then our goal is to raise funds for insulin pumps and continuous glucose monitors for kids living with Type One Diabetes, especially kids coming from marginalized communities.

Scott Benner 45:35
Okay. You're so you're hoping to you have an organization you'd like to bring money in, and then turn that money back around to people to get them devices that they can afford? You know, it's incredibly odd that you say that. And if you'll, if you'll allow me one second to look here. I just had a really lovely phone call with a woman named Rebecca, the other day, and I went out on a limb there saying her name out loud before I checked the email, because you know, you listen to this podcast, and I've I really, I'm not good with names. But yes, Rebecca, I got it right, from something called the Fincher foundation. And she has a foundation that's doing the exact same thing. Wow. And it sounds like and you know, and it sounds like she's pretty successful at it. So I can I can maybe make an introduction for you. If you'd want to pick brains or anything like that ever. Let me know. Because it's, it's something that most of you don't know. And I don't really know how you would but well, prior to the podcast, when I realized that the blog was really popular, and I wanted to do something good with it, I hadn't considered the podcast yet. And I had forms in my hand to start, like a 501. c three, because I would the same ID issue, I thought, I wonder if I could help people pay for pumps and glucose monitors. And then I got overwhelmed by the process. So kudos to you for sticking to it because it about halfway through looking at those forums, I was like, Oh, boy, maybe I'm not the right person for this.

Kyle Banks 47:10
It's overwhelming. The funny thing about starting a new venture is you know, you have all these grandiose ideas until you realize the process is what it takes to actually see it through. So unluckily for me, I announced this idea at a convention with like, 3000 people there before I even like looked into what it would take to start it. So you know

Unknown Speaker 47:34
what Kyle's gonna do?

Scott Benner 47:38
Now you have to where you got to go find all 3000 of those people and be like, Listen, don't tell anybody about what else. Do you have space online that I can look at?

Kyle Banks 47:49
I do Kyler cares.org.

Scott Benner 47:55
Ky le our car yes.org? Mm, right. Okay, take a look.

Kyle Banks 48:01
Yeah, we were, um, we were having we're, we're planning on having our first fundraiser concert, here in New Orleans, in August. Mm hmm. It's tapping into Broadway community just connecting with a bunch of friends of mine that perform in shows like Book of Mormon and Kinky Boots, and Lion King, of course, Hamilton, and they're all coming down to perform in New Orleans for the concert, call it from Broadway with love, had the theater space donated as a 2800 seat theater of the Sanger theatre. It's where all the Broadway shows perform when they travel here, donated the space. And we're just all ready to go. Let's begin with Vanessa Williams about headlining, and then COVID happened. So now we're

Scott Benner 48:55
at that split on a pangolin. And now whatever happened, and now you're done.

Kyle Banks 49:01
Well, we were transitioning that to like an online concert. Okay.

Scott Benner 49:07
I hope you get to do it in person one day too, because that that sounds really lovely. What was the idea? Were you going to put on small portions of productions, or

Kyle Banks 49:17
were performing love songs from some of the most loved musicals around now?

Scott Benner 49:23
That's really nice to see. I want to see that alright, that should happen lifestyle. We're gonna get to a point I would love to see you do that live. But I'll I'll definitely share the link here for people to check it out and donate if they can. Kyler cares.org and the teddy bears really adorable. That's the first thing that caught my eyes like I like how it feels like it's hanging a little bit worse up straight. I can't decide what I feel like it's doing. But one way or the other. It's a T shirt. There should be if it's not,

Kyle Banks 49:53
it is a T

Scott Benner 49:57
is very nice. So how do you plan on on finding people who need the help?

Kyle Banks 50:03
Well, I've been

with Lion King, we do a lot of research outreach throughout the years, so I was already connected to Children's Hospital. So I just reached out to them. And that's when I really began to understand like how grave The situation is, especially among communities of color. Um, this, people with T, one D, from communities of colors, they're frequently using pumps and CG is they lack access to the technology because of finances or they're underinsured. They infrequently perform glucose testing, they, they have less contact with management staff is a difficulty relating to staff because of socio economical and cultural differences. So there's just a whole slew of problems that that antagonize a really bad situation. Did you ever by any chance hear me when I spoke to Anthony Anderson? And I asked him, if culturally, it's just one of those things like, Oh, I got it. And now whatever is going to happen is going to happen. Like this is my lot in life, I have diabetes, is that is that a function of everything you just said, if not having good information, or someone who can talk to you, you know, where you can, where you can listen? Totally. And I don't even think that it's a conscious choice that people are making just to disregard their situation. It's just the cards they've been dealt, and they don't have the resources and or the information to, you know, tackle it. Probably.

Scott Benner 51:49
Yeah, it's it's so interesting that it's no different than any other thing. And so yesterday, my son, who I have to admit, is a really good kid, and it's not getting a lot of trouble. He went to visit some friends. And park somewhere, got his car towed. And he called me, and nothing like that never happened to him. And he said, He's like, my car got towed. And I said, well, get it back. You know, like, I just figured it out, man, you're 20, you're pretty bright kid can get them car back, you know. And it was interesting to watch him work his way through it. Because there were just simple ideas or concepts, tools that he didn't have. And when he, when he reached into his mind, he just there was no, there was no function for this problem. And it's, it stopped him. And so I said, Okay, here's what you're gonna do. You know, first thing I want you to do is go back to where you parked the car, see if there's any signs there to indicate who might have towed your heart. If not, we're gonna call the police department, don't call 911 call the the non emergency line, ask them. And then I gave him tools, then he went off, did it no problem came right back and said, and as you're talking about it, I don't see any difference between that in a health thing. Someone's put you into a situation that you just don't have, you don't have a tool for and your imagination can't find it. Because it just doesn't it doesn't know from it, you know? And then that's it.

Kyle Banks 53:13
In the healthcare system is it's impossible to navigate. So yeah, that just makes that makes I mean, I, even when I have to reach out to my insurance and figure out, like, you know, who's paying for what, and you know, who do I have to contact for certain things that I need? It's, it can be really challenging, and it also consumes a lot of time. Yeah,

Scott Benner 53:40
I can see very simply people going from all those questions that they don't have answers to, to, you know, what they gave me the insulin, I've got the needle, let me just do this. And that's it. And then and then whatever is going to be is going to be and I mean, it's very unlikely. Like you think about the things that you've learned listening to the podcast, and you think about how long it took me like, what a What a weird situation I was in to even be able to do what I did. I was a stay at home parent, I got put in charge of a small child. I had time I had no resources, the resources kind of fell apart. And for people who are wondering, what we're describing happens to other people. It happened to me too, I didn't walk into some magical doctor's office who was like, here's the things you're going to do you know it and we live in a in a place with a good with a good health care system, and we were at a good institution. And still, it wasn't like they laid it all out. For me. We struggled for years. And had I not started the blog and felt some function to make the blog more than just Hey, diabetes sucks, right? You know, like, I don't know if I even would have ever helped Arden and so every we all can't have that. Those, I don't know, circumstances that allow us that kind of time together. get to something, you know, it's it's somebody needs to step in and say, Hey, listen, I want you to get your bazel. Right, then I want you to Pre-Bolus. And I want you to do this. And when this happens, do that, and then you learn as you go. I just it makes sense to me,

Kyle Banks 55:13
honestly, like you said, having the time to do it. I know I worked for a, the only time I took off from work after my diagnosis was made the three days I was hospitalized. And I worked for a year, just going through the motions, you know, just trying to survive with this new pump, and you know, insulin injections and figuring out, you know, living walking around most of the day with exorbitantly high glucose numbers, right. Um, but I, after a year that I took a year off, just because I just needed to reset, figure out what was going on with me. That's when I was introduced to podcast. And that's really when I had the time to just study and figure out, you know, how to better take care of myself.

Scott Benner 56:03
Yeah, I understand when I get notes sometimes from people, and they're like, Can you just point me to the couple of episodes I need on my head, it's not that easy. You know, I'm like, and I think just take some, you know, take 20 hours and listen to these, and that should get you going. I don't have time for that. And I think I understand, like, I understand that you don't feel like you have time. But if you listen, it's gonna create so much extra time for you like, but not everyone's even, like, I'm assuming you would you do to go home for that year?

Kyle Banks 56:32
I did. came to New Orleans.

Scott Benner 56:34
Yeah, some support somebody was there to like, to help you out? Yeah.

Kyle Banks 56:39
To your fact, at the top of the podcast, where I received care at aashna Hospital, and they actually making since COVID. In New Orleans, as hard as it has, it's actually been in the press a lot. But I was surprised as well that my caregivers here and my independent chronology team and National Hospital was was. So that's the word I'm looking for. They have been so helpful and so good. And I'm surprised that they are as forward thinking as they are with regard to treating diabetes. That's excellent.

Scott Benner 57:19
I'm always excited when I hear that there are institutions that are out on the edge and, and leaning into good ideas, because that's the only

Kyle Banks 57:27
way that you know, I also have, because I've been has been part of my time here in New Orleans. And part of my time in New York. I also have doctors in New York, that I endocrinology team in New York that I work with as well. And I find that the doctors in New Orleans, surprisingly, are a bit more knowledgeable. Yeah.

Scott Benner 57:48
But it you know, everybody likes to say, yeah, if something done like that, go to the city go to Manhattan. That's right, I get it. Right. You know, but a good doctor can live anywhere. That's the first thing but and having the having the the nerve to not be so institutional that you're more worried about not being wrong than about helping somebody is is a big deal. You know, it really is. Well, that's an interesting story, man. It really is. I'm glad I did this actually, by mentioning current events, you got your podcast moved up six months on the schedule. It's good to go out this week instead of like, you know, at Christmas. Because I don't want six months from now people going

Unknown Speaker 58:33
Wait, what's COVID-19?

Kyle Banks 58:37
That would be beautiful. If that's where we are in six. I hope so.

Scott Benner 58:41
Yeah. I don't know how to wonder what's going to happen. But I do know that I I completely beside with what you're saying about being frightened to just go get sick. And then there's the other side of me that thinks of it on a macro level. And I'm like, we got to get going, like, you know, Okay, sit around like this. You're seeing what's happening. You let people sit around, not make money for a few more months. And, you know, and see, it'll take a lot less to set, set them off, you know, and I don't know where it goes from there. It's it's, I always wonder to how it feels for people who live in more remote places to flip on the news and see something happening in Boston and Philly in New York. Like does it feel like another world to them? Or, to me it feels like it could be at my house at any second because that's how close I am. Yeah, you know,

Kyle Banks 59:30
it Yeah, imagine something you know, it's been pretty quiet here in New Orleans. So we haven't been affected by like the riots and the looting isn't some protests, but it's been all relatively peaceful and calm and not really a lot of numbers. But I guess that's how people felt when when the quarantine first began, like certain areas wasn't really being affected. So they were wondering, oh, why why should I shut down in Idaho? Right and we don't have during any deaths here, okay, we're not experiencing what New York City is in California are experiencing. So

Scott Benner 1:00:07
I had a talk set up in Wisconsin, as this was all going down in the second week of March. And they were still like, no, you're coming. And it was like the 26th of March. I'm like, No, there won't be airplanes on the 26th of March. And they did not know what I was talking about. And then all of a sudden, one day, somebody got sick in Wisconsin, and then they figured it out real quick, you know, and I was like, that's, it's really interesting how that happens. I always go back to in my mind. My brother grew up here on the East Coast with us, but he moved to Wisconsin. And I took that Wisconsin gig, partly because I could see my brother when I went. But, but so he's got an East Coast sensibility about the world. And on 911 he called me He's like, is this really a big deal? What's going on? I can't tell here. And I was like, Yeah, man, this is his terrorism. And this is a problem. Yeah, you know, and he's like, Alright, he's like, that's what I thought he was, but the way they talked about it here, you know, a plane hit a building, but like, it was very, I don't know, laissez faire in the in the first number of hours, you know, right. Obviously, they figured it out after that. But in the very beginning, New York's one of those places, like if you've never been there, I suggest coming in underground, which you'll end up doing unless you drive. Because the first time you walk up in the sun hit your face, and you look up you'll think I have never seen anything like this in my entire life. You

Kyle Banks 1:01:27
know, it's crazy. It's intense. You got to be ready. Working at a Time Square every day is is definitely a treat.

Scott Benner 1:01:36
Yeah, I we, you know, obviously I haven't been up in a little while because of all this, but it is a real, you just you've never, most people have never seen a building that tall next to a building. That's all that goes on seemingly forever. So many people moving. in unison, but separately, it's hard to put into words really generally mean but there's a flow of people it works. And I don't know I love it there. I love it out here in general on these coasts. I like I like, I like that feeling that the same guy that may flip you off or bumping into him a block later if you tripped and fell would stop and be like, yo, you are right. Yeah. It's just it's a it's a, I don't know, it's a weird thing. That's hard to put into words. Unless you've been there. Is there anything that we didn't talk about that you were hoping to?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:30
Um,

Unknown Speaker 1:02:31
no, we would cover

Kyle Banks 1:02:32
we covered a lot, you know, just basically, definitely the the organization kind of cares. We're figuring out now what our first fundraiser is going to look like later in this summer. So just be on the lookout for that. And we were also going to be producing some pieces of in collaboration with the partners that partnerships that we have with like the New Orleans Saints, the NFL, mobile snack cakes, intellect index calm, which sort of like help with like, marketing the message about centered around self care, okay? Because it's, it's a, it's, it's a really big issue. People just not having the information not realizing that the big with just minor tweaks that can really just make life with this disease a lot less stressful and just make life better.

Scott Benner 1:03:40
Yeah, I used to joke that if people figure out what I'm saying, isn't that complicated? They won't need the podcast anymore. But I don't joke like that anymore. Because then other people have been ripping me off. So I'm like, it is complicated. I'm the only one that can tell you.

Kyle Banks 1:03:54
But no, no, this is like one of the areas where, you know, copying is sort of like, it's gotta be flattering. You know, when you when you hear somebody

Scott Benner 1:04:07
do it. My wife is such a pain. She's like, she wants me to take the dogs out. And I'm like, she doesn't realize I'm still going. I listen, I'm not gonna joke with you about it. I'll be I'll be seriously. It is flattering to start doing something that people see and think, Wow, that's great. where it hurts a little bit is how much time and effort I put into the podcast. Then I see somebody else like trying to be like, oh, look what I thought to do. And I'm like, Yeah, like not that Pre-Bolus thing is patented. I'm not saying that. But there are ways that I explained things that I know for certain. I figured out and then I hear some and I hear someone used those exact words. And then there's two feelings. There's the This is great. It's getting around. But then there's the part of me who makes the podcast who wants everyone to listen to the podcast. You know, I mean, so it's a very interesting it's a it's a weird thing. It's a weird thing to have happen, because you definitely just want people to be healthy. Yeah, I suppose definitely. Yeah. But at the same time I want my downloads

Kyle Banks 1:05:14
you should get, those are

Scott Benner 1:05:15
my downloads, don't take my downloads.

Kyle Banks 1:05:18
You know, the thing I really would like to stress, especially with people of color that may be listening to your podcast is not I mean, you glucose now in how it affects you today is one thing, but the thing we really need to look out for is its effect on your life in 510 15 years from now, because I have been in communication, people who were just having the most heinous complications, and it's awful to see someone at the age of 35, you know, dealing with neuropathy and high damage in or females having pregnancy complications, or young males who who have to deal with erectile dysfunction in their early 30s. And like, it doesn't have to be that way. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:06:01
no kidding. There's, there's just like everybody, there's always going to be somebody who no matter what happens, their body's just not going to do well with the diabetes. But for the most part, for most of you, for most everybody, there are certain easy things you can do to stop that stuff from happening. And it's like you said, it's, it's easy now to think oh, that's later it probably won't happen to me. But man, when it when it happens to you, there's no going back, you know, you it's not pretty, it isn't going to be something you want to deal with. So I appreciate that. But I'm going to put the link in for sure. And I'll mention it against the people here. That link of course is Kyler cares.org ky le r ca r s dot o RG or if you can imagine how Kyle would say it. Okay, why no, I can't do it. His voice is beautiful. Isn't it? Makes me feel like I'm feel like I'm squeaky over here. Thank you so much to dex comment on the pod for sponsoring this episode of the Juicebox Podcast. Please go to my on the pod.com forward slash juice box or dexcom.com forward slash juice box. Why did I say or it's and go to both of them? Find out more about the sponsors. A couple of housekeeping things first, and not that Disney needs to help. But if you've never seen the Lion King on Broadway, it is a beautiful spectacle. It is an absolute charm fest Did you hear that Thunder? It's coming. Whoo, geez. This could be a people, Episode 343 with a podcast and I get another one going up in a cyclone apparently. But before I do, let me ask you, if you Hi, just in case I get pulled up into a tornado, you might want to go to Apple podcasts and leave a wonderful review of the podcast. You know, so that other people who are finding it for the first time can trust what they're going to hear. They need to take a leap. And it might just be your review that lets them feel comfortable trying the podcast. So if you can do that, I would really appreciate it. What else if you're looking for, you know, some deep conversation with other listeners, check out the Facebook page for the Juicebox Podcast. There's of course the public page. It's called bold with insulin. And there's the private page, the juice box discussion group where people get together and talk about management ideas. It's a really great tight group. I'm proud of it. Honestly, there's over 3000 people in there now. I'm juice box. If you have a great physician that you'd like to suggest to somebody else, go to juice box docs.com and send me your addition and I'll add it to the list. It's JUICBOXD OCS calm and anything else. Hmm. I'm gonna be doing something cool next week, but I can't tell you about yet but I will tell you about it as soon as I can think it's gonna add to my understanding of how insulin works a lot actually. So I'm excited about that. It's embargoed for a while. I think I can tell you it a few more days. Oh, you know, dex company will be back on the show soon. I think the CEO is going to be back probably on June 16 ish around there. A lot of stuff going on at FX calm. Kevin Sayer is going to come back and fill us in on that. And I don't think oh, and I just recorded a really great afterdark today that I think you're going to enjoy. And next week I'm doing a bunch of recordings with Jenny so Jenny Lee backson. Speaking of Jenny, all of the diabetes pro tip episodes are collected at diabetes pro tip calm if you'd like to share them with a friend. There's no assets diabetes pro tip.com takes you to the collection of the episodes from the podcast. You of course can listen through your podcast player but easy way to share or to revisit anything else. Hmm No, I think that's it. I think I've covered everything.

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