#257 Kate Hall Can Fly

2020 Olympic Hopeful Kate Hall…

Can jump really, really….. really far!

Kate Hall was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when she was 10 years old. Today she is training for the 2020 Summer Olympics in Tokyo.

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Scott Benner 0:00
Hey everyone, it's Scott and this is episode 257 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's show is sponsored by Dexcom dancing for diabetes, and Omni pod, you can go to dancing for diabetes.com dexcom.com forward slash juicebox and my omnipod.com forward slash juicebox. You can also go to the links in your show notes, or Juicebox Podcast comm to find out more. Please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before becoming bold with insulin or making any changes to your health care plan. And guess who's on the show today.

Kate Hall 0:51
My name is Kate Hall. I am a professional track and field athlete specializing in long jump and the 100 meter. I was diagnosed with Type One Diabetes when I was 10 years old.

Unknown Speaker 1:03
I am 22 years old now and I live in Maine. Okay, just jump through the first 15 minutes of the show. Now I have to think of new things to talk about. That's fine.

Scott Benner 1:14
It'll give us more time to kind of dig into some of the questions I have about all this.

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Unknown Speaker 2:29
predict pretty close.

Scott Benner 2:31
How many different stories can there be in Maine?

Unknown Speaker 2:33
Right? Right, exactly.

Kate Hall 2:36
Yeah, so I was 10 years old. I was a very active kid, I was a very outgoing kid, pretty positive. And then one day, I was just suddenly really emotional. And I was around my friends. And I was really emotional. And they never really seen that side of me because I was always just so outgoing and positive and wanted to have fun. And they were like, What is going on? Like, something's clearly wrong. And then my parents started to notice changes to like, I was eating all the time, I was drinking lots of water, I was going to the bathroom a lot. And again, I was really emotional. I didn't want to get out of bed.

Scott Benner 3:21
What do you mean about emotional like, sad, angry, um, easy to set off,

Kate Hall 3:27
pretty much easy to set off. Um, I mean, being a 10 year old kid, when I was just at home, like when my family like I was a pretty determined child to get in fights all the time with them. But when I was in public with other people, friends and an extended family, I was like, extremely calm and just a very positive kid. But um,

Unknown Speaker 3:51
I remember.

Scott Benner 3:52
So you lost your social your social graces at some point,

Unknown Speaker 3:55
right? Yeah, yeah.

Scott Benner 3:57
Did you describe Yeah, you're describing a person who knows how to behave in public.

Unknown Speaker 4:01
Right, right. Yeah,

Kate Hall 4:04
I was I like my cousin's birthday party. They were having cake or some sort of treat and I wasn't able to have it that day. For some reason. I remember why. And I like totally, like, freaked out. And I was crying and like my cousin had never actually like, see me cry, because I didn't like to cry in front of other people. So that's like when they knew something was really wrong. And then I also like, didn't want to get out of bed. I didn't want to go anywhere, which wasn't like me, because I'm the type of person that likes to be really busy all the time and doing things and going places. And I just wanted to stay home and I was losing weight. And they knew there was a huge issue. So they brought me to the doctor. And he pretty much just said, Oh, you're having a growth spurt because you're eating more and drinking more water and go home. Come back a couple weeks if you're not feeling better, and that didn't really make sense to me. Because, yeah, I was eating more, but I was also losing weight and feeling horrible. Um, so my parents obviously weren't satisfied with that. So they did some research on their own. They went to Google and you know that that's usually the thing you don't want to do, because they'll come up with a whole bunch of

Unknown Speaker 5:17
stuff that you

Scott Benner 5:18
you have the internet. That's amazing. How far into the woods. Did you have to go to the log cabin? Where you met the doctor? Is it a couple day walk? Or? I'm just kidding. I know nothing. I know nothing about Maine.

Kate Hall 5:29
That's Well, that's like that's like what people think Maine, as is like, log cabin woods. No nowhere, but I live in like Southern Maine. So it's not like that at all. There's actually a lot to do and it's really close to Portland. But northern Maine, it's a lot like that.

Scott Benner 5:46
So there's no truth that you started long jumping to eventually try to jump out of Maine. That's not what happened.

Unknown Speaker 5:51
No, no.

Scott Benner 5:54
Wouldn't you like to be able to save yourself at this moment in the podcast every week? When I say go to dancing for diabetes.com? That's dancing the number four diabetes.com? Wouldn't you like to be able to tell yourself I've done that Scott. And I do it all the time. Like, feel like you're part of the gang. You know what I mean? Like, hey, that's me. I go to dancing for diabetes.com. Don't you want to feel like that? force? You do? No, good. It's simple to do. Dancing the number for diabetes.com. Okay, so you send you home? Where you're going to die if somebody else doesn't figure something.

Unknown Speaker 6:29
Right. Right. Exactly.

Scott Benner 6:30
So who persisted who pushed more? Was it you complaining or your parents?

Kate Hall 6:36
It was definitely my parents. I mean, being 10 years old, like I knew something was wrong. But I figured, oh, the doctor knows. And if he says like, nothing's wrong, then. Okay. But my parents knew there was more to it. So they looked at my symptoms online and saw that they were somewhat of someone who has type one diabetes, so and then it just like, fit. Exactly. And they're like, oh, wow, like, we really think this is it. So they ended up going to, like a pharmacy on their own and got like ketone test strips. Oh, good for them. Yeah. And so they tested my urine, and it was full of ketones, obviously, MP.

Scott Benner 7:19
What What an exciting day for you. I said, Oh, I know. We're gonna pee on a test strip. Great. This is really going well.

Unknown Speaker 7:27
All right. So I was like, What is going on?

Scott Benner 7:30
You had to I mean, can you imagine really think back on it for a second. 10 years old, your parents is rolling to your room out of nowhere, like we needed to pay on this, like, Oh, my God, what's happening? The doctor says, You people don't know what you're talking about.

Unknown Speaker 7:42
All right. Well,

Scott Benner 7:42
did you feel bad enough at that point? That Do you remember how badly you felt at that point?

Unknown Speaker 7:47
Um,

Unknown Speaker 7:49
yeah,

Kate Hall 7:50
I remember just feeling really out of it. And not myself. And like, I was definitely getting worse every single day. And luckily, like my aunt worked at our local hospital. And she knew the endocrinologist really well. And like, yeah, have her come in today. And it was like a Sunday morning. And luckily, like I went in, and they said, Wow, like if you had waited any longer, it could have been much worse, much worse situation. But yeah, they checked my blood sugar. And I think it was like 500. And that's when they said, Yeah, you have you have type one diabetes, pretty much how it went. I'm glad

Scott Benner 8:29
everyone figured it out. Yes, 12 years ago, is all I can do this 2006

Kate Hall 8:37
it was 2007 when I was diagnosed, you were probably wrong. Unless I got the math wrong, but trust me,

Scott Benner 8:43
trust me. I got the math wrong. At that point. Do you get? I mean, that's 12 years ago, you get I just Demeter and like, yeah, maybe or needles.

Kate Hall 8:54
Yeah. So I started just with like, a syringe. And then I think once I left the hospital, they sent me up with the pen. And then I was on that for, I don't know, maybe six months. And then I went on the Medtronic pump first. So that was the first pump I was on. So you

Scott Benner 9:12
pumped. You've been pumping most of the time. You've had diabetes. Yeah.

Kate Hall 9:16
Yeah, pretty much as soon as they said, Okay, that's when I started. So

Scott Benner 9:21
that's sort of an interesting age, right? Like, because it's young enough that I think you need help, you know, diabetes, but it's also old enough that some parents might be like, hey, you could probably handle this. Do you? Yeah. Do you remember which camp your family fell into and how you guys took

Kate Hall 9:37
care? Yes, I yes, I definitely remember. So when I was in the hospital. The nurse was about to give me my first shot. I'm like, No, give me the needle. I'm gonna I'm gonna give myself my first shot. Like I wasn't scared at all. And then after that, I pretty much wanted to do everything on my own. I didn't. I wasn't like oh, you can't see my blood sugar's you can't know anything about what's going Hang on, it was just me wanting to take control of the disease. And for them, I think they thought that was a good thing. So they didn't bug me every second. But they came alongside me and helped me out. And I think it was actually a really good balance because they knew that it was going to be important for me to control it at a young age. And then I wanted to so

Scott Benner 10:22
what did that mean? Then control it? Like, were you just it was about counting carbs and doing the math?

Kate Hall 10:28
Yeah, I wanted to do everything I wanted to check. My blood sugar's on my own. I wanted to count my own carbs. I wanted to figure out how much insulin I needed to give. Yeah, I wanted to pretty much do everything. Yeah, that's cool.

Scott Benner 10:40
And how I don't want to say successful, but how well did that go for you? Were you like, did you? I mean, how did you measure? Was it blood sugar checks? Was it a one c? Were you aware of a one c back then?

Unknown Speaker 10:52
Yeah, yeah,

Kate Hall 10:52
I was. I was aware of it. I know. When I was in the hospital, it was really high. And then I remember actually, three months later, I actually was a month later, I got it checked. And it was a lot better. I remember being really happy about that. And I remember looking forward to like the doctor's visits to see like, I could get even lower. So I remember being excited.

Scott Benner 11:14
At that age. Were you competing in like we participating in sports at school or anything like that?

Kate Hall 11:21
Yeah. So at 10 I was doing soccer, basketball, and I had just started track. That summer. I was diagnosed in October. And I had started track back in I think, like May. So it's my first.

Scott Benner 11:37
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off.

Kate Hall 11:39
No, that's okay. Yeah, that was my first year doing track. But I think at that point, soccer was my favorite. And I also remember, when I was diagnosed, it was during soccer season. And it was like right before our team's championship game. And the doctor was like, all right, like you were just diagnosed, you need to get a handle of this. I don't want you to play for a couple weeks until you get this all figured out. And that was like the worst thing in the world. For me, I had to like, sit on the sidelines and watch my team lose the championship game. And I'm like, wow, that's kind of what it said in like, before that, I wasn't really afraid of having diabetes, and any of that or giving myself eight shots a day or pricking my fingers. I didn't care about that. I just didn't want it to stop me from doing what I love most, which was sports. So at that point, when I was sitting on the sidelines, I was like, Okay, this is awful. Never again, I'm not letting this stop me from doing anything. Again. As soon as they can get back out there. I was out there, playing soccer, playing all the sports and just extremely motivated. So cool, because you know, you could have had an opposite reaction, right? You could

Scott Benner 12:49
Yeah, it could have been like really like a weight on you just though look. Like I can't do this doctor says I can't do it. And so now I sit here and you know, then who knows? Of all the sports you name that you played? Do you really like looking back on it? Now if I told you you had to go back and only do one thing? Would it be track? Or if you could be like, if you could be as good at soccer as yours track? Would you choose like to me like,

Unknown Speaker 13:13
yeah,

Scott Benner 13:14
I'm wondering, because because of my follow up question, but I don't want to ask it until I know your answer. When I asked that question, I did not know the answer. But I'm going to ask you some questions right now I think I do know the answer to how would you like to own something that didn't require you to poke a hole in your finger to find out what your blood sugar is? How would you like to be able to set customizable alerts and alarms that tell you when your blood sugar has left the range that you've decided ardens ranges between 70 and 120? But yours could be anywhere? And then the dexcom g six would let you know, when you were leaving that range? It would even tell you how quickly you're rising or falling? How would you like to know that? How would you like to be able to see a loved one's blood sugar when they're not with you? So I could ask you a lot of questions. And I think I know the answer to how would you like this? Or how would you like that? Wouldn't you like to be safer, calmer, more secure? Know what your blood sugar is? where it's going, how fast it's moving there? These are all questions that you know. Let's be honest, I know the answer to before I ask you. So instead of asking those questions, let's ask the most important question. Why have you not gone to dexcom.com Ford slash juice box to get started today with the Dexcom g six. You've heard me say this before, and I'll say it again. These results are ours and yours may vary. But my daughter's a one C has been between 5.2 and 6.2 for over five years, and she has absolutely no diet restrictions. This morning. Arden had a bagel and when her blood sugar tried to go over 120 the Dexcom g six told us and we stopped it dexcom.com forward slash juice box, check it out, I think you'll be happy that you did.

Kate Hall 15:08
I would still choose track. I always really like tracking the start because it was such an individual sport. And it's extremely measurable. And I also didn't like the idea of like a team sport, I didn't want to let down my team. If I did that I didn't want like the team to lose. I hated that so much. But I like to track just because I could go out there. And I had my own personal goals in mind, I could go and try to set personal records at each competition. So looking back, I would definitely feel to track

Scott Benner 15:37
and I definitely thought you would say that because yeah, everything you're saying leading up to this is an indicator of your desire to measure yourself against yourself. Yeah. And and that it even in a in a race. Like you just said it, you could beat your own time and not win the race and still be a major thing for you. Right?

Unknown Speaker 15:57
Yeah, exactly.

Scott Benner 15:58
I watched. I wouldn't have known about it, but my son plays baseball in college now. And he can leave a game where a team gets blown out. And if he's kind of reached the goals he set for himself, and that he's okay with it. And it's interesting, because every individual idea in a team sport and he's team oriented too. Don't get me wrong, but I can see that happening. I just it's very, because track is it is such a I don't it's an isolated thing, like it is it's just you. I mean, there's a lot going on around you. But but the measurements are about you. It's really it's kind of simple. Yeah. It's and and kind of beautiful. And at the same time very specific. So everything yeah, like I want the needle, I was gonna do this myself. I was like, Yeah, she didn't care about those other sports. Those were just things now.

Kate Hall 16:50
Right after I started track, I was like, I love this so much. This is my sport. And then I never wanted to stop after that. I was so excited.

Scott Benner 16:58
I'll get back to the diabetes part. But I'm interested in you know, if you start running track around that age, obviously, you're just competing locally, like at school and stuff like that. At what point along that process? does it become obvious that you're, I don't want to I don't know how to say this, that you're better at it than the other kids. The question,

Kate Hall 17:18
when I started when I was 10, I was like, one of the fastest on the team. There was like one other girl, that was pretty fast, too. But it's like the two of us that were really fast. But I think once I was in middle school, that's when I started to get a lot better, where I would go to races and just beat everyone there. And then in high school, that's when I really took off. Like I started setting state records. I think I was like undefeated in the state for a long jump, and then 100, all four years. And then later in high school, I started to become even better where I was more well known on like, the New England scale and the national scale. So it's definitely a gradual progression. But I think people started noticing me like in middle school, when I started to set state records and beat everyone.

Scott Benner 18:11
It's similar to the idea of pitching, right like that. It's a thing that people can see from a distance and still judge it well. Yeah, you know, it's hard to like, it's hard to show somebody that you're a quality, you know, I don't know, interior lineman on a football team, like you might be great at it. But how do you how do you stand out while you're doing something like that? You know, no, no one sack the quarterback today? I did a great job. Yeah. Or did they just not get to the quarterback? It's hard to judge. Right, right. It's time or distance or with a pitcher. It's it's velocity or how many hits they give up? It's easy to see.

Unknown Speaker 18:45
Yeah, exactly. Very, very interesting.

Scott Benner 18:47
How far did you travel in that time? I know the New England area, like is it that kind of follow, like sort of that nescac thing with the schools or were you in Vermont? Or how far did you go to to compete

Kate Hall 19:01
when I was younger? Probably. Yeah. When I was in middle school, I mainly sat in the New England area. I think the first one was New York because I had to go to New York to qualify for like the it's called like the Junior Olympics. It was like a summer program for kids who did track and then you can qualify for the nationals. And then I actually went to Kansas for the Nationals when I was in middle school. And then what do you say

Scott Benner 19:33
I'm just gonna say is it was that incredibly exciting to like travel that far.

Kate Hall 19:36
It was it was so exciting. I remember it was like the only thing I was looking forward to for months and I went with a friend and she was doing the high jump and I was doing the long jump and the 100 and we're so excited to go to Kansas, it's like who's ever excited to go to Kansas but we were so excited. And it was so different for us because it was just like so flat there and we were not used to That living in Maine. And it was amazing. And when we left, like we're coming back to Kansas, Kansas is the best place ever. And it was like 110 degrees there. When we were there. It was like they were sending like record temperature. Yeah, it was so exciting.

Scott Benner 20:14
There's a lot going on here. Let me try to understand, like, all this preparation to go run into an event, how many times do you actually run or jump? In the course of an event? How long does an event take in days?

Kate Hall 20:26
For the 100? It's, it depends on the type of meat. For like, the bigger meats, there'll be like a semi final final, which might be over like two days, or it could be over one day. It really depends. And then for long jump, it's just six jumps in one day. And that usually takes like an hour to an hour and a half. So

Scott Benner 20:49
as you're doing that, do the jumps progressively get better? Or do you get tired and they get last year? like where do you expect your better jump at the beginning or at the end?

Kate Hall 20:58
lately? It's been towards the end. Usually, I'm getting better as I go, which I'm not really sure why. I think I'm just becoming more consistent and getting into a rhythm. So it's actually a good thing that it's my best jumps are towards the end.

Scott Benner 21:14
You're probably as strong now as you've ever been in your life. And yeah,

Unknown Speaker 21:17
yeah.

Scott Benner 21:18
So it's a little more I watched my son he's hitting before he's going back to school this week. And he keeps going to his guy more frequently than he usually does. He had an amazing round on Wednesday. And then the next day, he tried to go back and like hit again. I'm talking about swinging a bat like 200 times and a half an hour. Oh, wow. The second time he was like, that didn't go as well as I did yesterday was no Well, it stands to reason you've got to be exhausted. Right? He said, Why? Exactly. Right. So, okay, now? I don't, I can't, not just because I'm old and fat Kate. But I can't wrap my head around the concept here. So I've seen you do it on video. You are propelling yourself a great distance through the air and then slamming down to the pit of sand. So I have many questions around this a the sand getting weird places? That's my first question.

Unknown Speaker 22:12
Yes, always.

Kate Hall 22:13
I hate the feeling of fan.

Scott Benner 22:15
I hate the beach even so I was like, even if I jump that far, would I do this? Or no,

Unknown Speaker 22:20
you know? Yeah.

Scott Benner 22:24
So you gotta go. I see that. My next question is, what does it feel like to land because it looks vicious?

Kate Hall 22:31
Yeah. One of my biggest, I guess, issues, when I started track was my long dump landings, because I would never land the right way. So when you actually land the right way, it doesn't look too bad. Like, it looks like it doesn't hurt. It looks pretty smooth. But for years and years and years, I would not learn the right way. And it looks so bad. It looks like it hurt. And usually it doesn't. But I know that if I'm landing correctly, then I'm not going to get her and I'm going to actually don't further. So yeah, they can be pretty brutal. Sometimes

Scott Benner 23:13
it looks absolutely horrifying. How do you practice the idea of the landing because your body's in such a unnatural position, as you've as you come back to the ground, do you know what I mean? Like so it's something you can practice unless you actually run and jump, right. It's not like something you can do in a shorter space or something like that,

Unknown Speaker 23:31
um,

Kate Hall 23:32
you can sometimes like for me, I'll do some shorter approach jumps. But you can also do like broad jumps. Because pretty much the concept of the landing is you want to keep your feet in the air up as long as you can. And then as soon as your feet hit, you're gonna pretty much kick them up, and you're gonna like, fall back, and then your butt's gonna fall into where your heels were. So you can practice that just by doing like, broad jumps. Gotcha. But then when you're actually doing it full speed, it's not quite as easy. So pretty much like doing it standing broad jumps, like the first step, and then you gradually move back from there, and then it gets easier. But it took me many, many years to finally get it.

Scott Benner 24:13
Have you ever heard yourself doing it?

Unknown Speaker 24:15
Yes, I've

Kate Hall 24:15
heard myself landing just because sometimes if you don't take off at the right angle, like if you're leaning too far back, you're over rotating. So you're almost like falling forward in the air. And like I've hurt my ankle before. Yeah, I can be pretty dangerous. If you're not taking off the

Unknown Speaker 24:33
right way.

Scott Benner 24:34
Is there enough time for you to like, and I'll bleep this out later. But is there enough time for you to cognitively think, as you're like pitching forward, or does it just happen?

Kate Hall 24:43
I know pretty much as soon as I'm in the air, if I messed up or not. So I can feel myself on floor. I'm like, this isn't going to be a good landing. So yeah, I do have some time to think. Gotcha.

Scott Benner 24:55
It's great. So I mean, we're sort of burying the lede here a little bit, but how far Can you jump? Okay, I've not rehearsed this, this ad is two minutes long. I'm gonna see if I can think of one thing about the on the pod that I love for every foot Kate can jump. Boy, this isn't gonna be easy. Um, I should put this kind of pressure on myself, okay? It's the only tubeless in some pub in the world. That's one. It's small, to discrete to that I can't even count that's three, I'm very nervous. There's a brand new dash PDM for changing the Omni pod takes no time at all. It's amazing how quickly you can change it. That's five. buckling under the pressure here. Oh, apps, there's now apps for iOS for like display and view, that's I'm going to call that six and seven. You can exercise with on the potty eight, it's never gonna get called on your door handle. Right? The tubing will never ever get hot is that I'm gonna count that as nine even though I feel like that's what I said the first time. All right, let me calm down. How about they have a free no obligation demo, I'm gonna call free demo and no obligation demo two different things. So I'm up to like 11. Now, you know what that means is that you can actually get on the pod to send you a demo right to your house. You do that by going to my on the pod.com. forward slash juicebox. How about this about on the pod? They support the Juicebox Podcast? That's another one. They have a whole community of people called Potter's. That's another one. I could do this. I could do this. Hold on. Oh, oh, here's one. If you use the on the pod, you get gluco for free. On the pods creating the horizon system, that's going to be a closed loop system that will work with your G six. That's like 12 and 13. Oh, geez, I'm running out of time. They have a turtle as a mascot. His name is Toby. Toby the turtle. Go get your free demo pot at Miami. pod.com. forward slash juicebox. Do you think I got anywhere near how many feet can jump? I think I was up to like, I don't know 14 things about the pod. Let's find out.

Kate Hall 26:58
By far this jump is 22 feet five inches. And that was back in 2015. But this season now has been my most consistencies in I've ever had. I've jumped over 22 feet several times. So that's what's the bearing?

Scott Benner 27:17
I'm just gonna say what's the measurement route? Like, what's the furthest anyone's ever done this?

Kate Hall 27:22
I think the world record is like four feet, like high 24 feet for women.

Scott Benner 27:28
That's really amazing. Do men go much farther? Or is it similar? Yeah, they

Kate Hall 27:33
go like 27 feet 28 feet, which is insane. It's insane to watch it. They're like pretty much jumping out of the pit.

Scott Benner 27:41
Is it possible that the momentum of their testicles going forward pulls them for? Is it possible?

Unknown Speaker 27:46
I don't know. Possibly. I

Scott Benner 27:48
mean, I haven't thought about that. Once they're up there, things are flying around. You could think that could help. I think it's an unfair advantage. That's all.

Unknown Speaker 27:57
But you never know.

Unknown Speaker 27:59
who helps you train.

Kate Hall 28:01
So in high school, I had it wasn't like my high school coach. It was more of like a personal trainer. And so he owns a gym in Portland. So I would go see him pretty much every day. Okay. And I once I started going to him, I improved so much like every single year I was getting better. I wasn't injured. I was always feeling good. And that's actually when I set the National High School record was when he was my coach. And then I went to college, and went through all that and then decided, well, I want to go back to my high school trainer. Because I was at my best when I was with him, I felt my best I was the most consistent. So that's pretty much the reason why I decided to go back to me.

Scott Benner 28:51
Had you sought him out? Or did someone come find you?

Kate Hall 28:55
I pulled my hamstring in eighth grade at the state meet. So I was going to physical therapy for weeks. And then on my very last day physical therapy, I was referred to him and he seemed like extremely knowledgeable and he knew like everything about the human body. And we're like, wow, like, you seem really smart. And we don't really know what we're doing. So do do look at training. And he's like, Oh, yeah, like, I would love to train you. So it was almost like a blessing in disguise that I was injured. Because I wouldn't have found him and now he's like, I made a huge difference in my career

Scott Benner 29:31
completely understand my son quit a team when he was 15 because they took on too many outfielders. And they started having to divide the playing time up too much. And it led him to another place where he met the guy who took his heading to another level. And well at that when he had to leave that team at the time. It felt like a real tragedy for him, you know, right to your point. If he doesn't meet Nick, then I don't I don't even know if he's in college playing baseball right now. And colza spectacular out fielder, but you know you have to be able to hit at the same level you're playing defense. So, right. It's just dumb luck. So that's really kind of interesting that that happened to you. Yeah. And is he still with you now? In some way?

Kate Hall 30:12
Yeah. Oh, yeah. So,

but he's my coach now. So,

Scott Benner 30:17
wow, it's worked out for him.

Kate Hall 30:20
Yeah, a lot of athletes decide to stay with like their college coaches after they graduate. But I didn't feel like that was the best decision for me. So I wanted to go back to Maine and train with a coach that I was comfortable with.

Scott Benner 30:31
So you're 22? Are you? Are you in college? Now? Are you a senior?

Kate Hall 30:36
I should have graduated in May. But I left college a year early, because I wanted to go back to Maine and train with this coach. Um, so I'm finishing my degree online now. So I should graduate in the spring. That's the goal. But where did you go to school?

Scott Benner 30:51
What college did you go to? And did they? Did they recruit you actively? Or did you?

Kate Hall 30:56
So I went to Iowa State first. And then I was there for one year and then transferred to the University of Georgia. And I was there for two years. And then went home to me, and you went home?

Scott Benner 31:09
I mean, I'm guessing but you went home? Because you saw that it was completely viable for you to try to get to the Olympics. Is that right?

Kate Hall 31:18
Yes. That's why I decided to go back to name was because, yeah, my goal is the fixed so I didn't want to stay in the NCAA system any longer. Because the NCAA season is so separate from the professional season, that I wouldn't have been able to get that experience and exposure before the Olympic year. So I wanted to do what's best for me and pursue my goals, and go and train with a coach that I knew would be best for me. And I could have some time in the in the pro scene before the Olympic year. So

Scott Benner 31:51
listen, you don't have to apologize to me, I my son's an athlete. I know how this works. There's there Yeah, moments when it's Yes, we're a team. And there's moments when it's I have another level I think I can get to and Right, exactly. These games are great. But I don't you know, US winning this game doesn't help me get to this thing. And I have the right to go my own way. And that's completely reasonable and in for you. You have measurables you can tell yourself, look, I can actually do this. Like it's not. It's not as much not that it hoping doesn't get involved in excitement. But you're still like, Look, I know we're all I'll, I'll shake out in this. So if you know exactly go my way. So sort of take me into that space a little bit. Because I don't understand that at all. Like and this will sound crazy when I first tell you I don't know when the Olympics are. But keep in mind, I also didn't know my Labor Day. So don't take that. Seriously, someone's like Monday's Labor Day. I'm like getting out of here. It is not but it was. So when sorry, when do the when did the Olympics happen?

Kate Hall 32:53
Next year in Tokyo, 2020. Yes. And the trials will be in June before the Olympics.

Scott Benner 33:03
So this is some of the Olympic Summer Olympics. When did the trials happen?

Kate Hall 33:08
It should be the end of June and they take the top three who have the Olympic standard to go. And that's amazing. So it's not like

Scott Benner 33:17
it's not like they identify you in January or February. It's some into and then you get the train to go to the Olympics six months later. It's it's one seamless like timewise process. It's come to the tryout You're the one get on a plane go to Tokyo like is it? It's not that no kidding,

Kate Hall 33:37
pretty much like that. So it's like you have to be ready for that day. Nothing can be off your mark can't be off. Right? Everything has to be right. So it just comes down to that one moment. So you could be like, the most consistent jumper who's like ranked like top in the world. But then you go there and have a bad day and then you can't go and then someone else goes who's technically like, not as good as you so

Scott Benner 34:01
and then the Olympic Committee has no autonomy to look and go Hey, listen, Billy's way better than Jimmy. We're gonna take Billy It doesn't work that way. Right? Like, it's just you get those jumps at that thing. And that's it. So you're, you're playing for that one time?

Unknown Speaker 34:15
Right.

Scott Benner 34:16
Do you think that's amazing? Um, I'm sorry. It's is it? Do you feel like a superhero? I guess it's my question. At all.

Unknown Speaker 34:26
Sometimes, I

Kate Hall 34:27
guess like, I

definitely feel like a normal person. Like people say, Oh, you're famous this like that. Really? Like I'm just some kid from Maine. Like, I don't know. I don't really feel that way. But then when I'm like, in a big crowd of like, 20,000 people competing, then that feels pretty cool.

Scott Benner 34:45
I googled Kate Hall the other day, and you're the first three pages of returns Kate so

Unknown Speaker 34:49
Oh, cool. That's awesome.

Scott Benner 34:51
And I told you when we were setting this up privately, but I'll be recording Next, you know, in a few months, with another person named Kate Hall. Cool. She is like the head writer of General Hospital. Oh, wow, her daughter has type one diabetes. Wow, that Kate Hall is naming a character in general hospital after my daughter and Jenny Smith who comes on the podcast. Oh, wow. I'm just saying that when you're up on the podium, just like roll my name out, like even just lip sync it back at me. Okay, be super cool. All right. Can you imagine after all of this work, if you got up there, and somehow this conversation got in your head, you're like, I want to thank Scott

Unknown Speaker 35:30
never be so funny. Or like, Wait,

Unknown Speaker 35:33
who is Scott?

Scott Benner 35:36
Yeah, suddenly, I'm just putting this I'm trying to trick you into saying it when it's okay. This strength to run fast and jump really far? Is it because as a child, you pulled raw salmon and trout out of a river and ate them with your teeth? Is that?

Kate Hall 35:56
Um, no, but actually, as a child, for some reason, like I always like walked on my tiptoes. I don't know if that has anything to do it. But I just loved jumping as a kid like I every time I jumped, I mean, anytime I walked under like a doorway, I would just jump up and hit the doorposts. And every single time so I was at a young age, probably doing like 200 jumps a day, just because I liked how it felt to jump. And I remember like going to a friend's house and they would have like a sandbox and try to like jump over the sandbox. So they're the only one who could do it. So I think at a young age, I was already like training my body, how to become like very, like elastic and powerful. So

Scott Benner 36:41
lucky. Your parents didn't see that as a psychological disorder and stuff. And

Kate Hall 36:46
I don't think they cared. They knew I was like, pretty athletic. Like, yeah, just

Scott Benner 36:50
do whatever you want. It just had kind of this energy, right? It's

Unknown Speaker 36:53
Yeah.

Scott Benner 36:54
So you know, it is really interesting that when the baseball season stops cold walks around this house like he's like he's just got this energy doesn't know what to do with these. Right when he his arms and his hands and mimicking throwing a baseball like and I don't even know that he knows he's doing it sometimes. You know, like, it's just very, he belongs playing baseball. It seems.

Unknown Speaker 37:18
Yeah. Right. Yeah. So

Scott Benner 37:19
you have that feeling about this. Now? You do the You said you do the 102? Is that something you'll focus on for the Olympics, or will you narrowcast to the long jump.

Kate Hall 37:29
So as of right now, it's mostly the long jump, but I'm still doing the 100 because I know I can become faster and lower my time. And so maybe in the future, there'll be more of a focus, but I know like right now long hemp is my main focus. And then 100 is just something else I do and I know I can get better at

Scott Benner 37:50
and then down the road. I imagine training for the 100 is also good for your training for for long jumping.

Kate Hall 37:56
Yeah, it is. So like, for indoors, the indoor season, they actually have the 60 meter instead of the 100. And I like the 60 meters so much better. Because it's very close to the distance that I run for long jump, it's about 40 meters is my approach for long jump. That's only about 20 meters difference. So it's a lot easier to train for the 60 then it is the 100 so when I do the 100 outdoors, like the hardest part of that race for me is like the last 40 meters because I don't train that far as much because my focus is long jump

Scott Benner 38:31
when you were back in high school. I imagine you were you know very athletic and good at this did you do other things like you take that stick and try to jump over the other stick or like the heavy thing and throw it like that? I don't know a lot about track and field but like didn't like did you put him what's the thing? You pull vault like Could you say sorry, the stick and you see it now though? You take the stick and jump over the other stick? Yeah, that's a rather rudimentary discussion but I like I imagine you might have been the go to to try for a lot of stuff like did that happen?

Kate Hall 39:04
Yeah, I pretty much tried everything like when I first started when I was 10 and I tried. Hi john. I did triple jump I did the 200 400 money really do any of the throwing events because I was like a very tiny child and not like super super muscular so definitely didn't do the throwing events but I tried pretty much like all the jumping events and I actually stuck with high jump and triple jump for a little bit and did triple jump a little bit in high school. But I knew after like a couple years of doing track it was going to be long jump in the short Sprint's

Unknown Speaker 39:40
you know

Scott Benner 39:40
it's funny you brought up your size because it struck me. I watched you jump a couple of times in video. And in video when you are again, the only person in the frame and doing this feeling like a superhuman thing. You look like you're six feet tall. Yep. But you're five four. Is that is that See? That's amazing. Because when I googled you and you popped up and your height popped up, I was like, That's not right. Yeah, girl in that video is a monster. And you're not.

Unknown Speaker 40:09
Yeah, that's Yeah.

Kate Hall 40:09
So everyone says that, like, someone will see me out in public. And they'll recognize me from like being in the news or the newspaper videos or whatever. And they'll be like, Wow, you are so small. You're so tiny. And someone actually said one time, which is such like a main thing to say, but like on the runway, you look like a moose. But what? Okay,

Scott Benner 40:32
well, that's just because you're speaking to someone in Maine. That's the only animal. Yeah, that's right. Don't worry about that. You know, I mean, interestingly enough, like Tom Cruise is five, seven. So yeah, you put him on film, and you stand somebody shorter than him next to him. And he looks tall. Exactly. And so you're by yourself and you're flying to the air. And it is, listen, Kate, I'm imagining, you know, but what you're doing is beyond most of our comprehension, like, yo, you know what, I could probably work hard at that, maybe jump eight feet, I couldn't get right, I probably couldn't. I don't know, I probably couldn't jump four feet. Like if I like really put my heart into it. Maybe I could fall forward four feet, but, and I've seen my son do that, um, I guess it's the equivalent of a standing long jumper, he plants his feet and just sees how far he can propel him without taking a step. And I've seen him do that, you know, seven or eight, like in that seven, eight foot range? And that's amazing. You don't I mean, so 22 feet is insane. That the record? It's just really, so I guess it's, I don't know, like, it's, it's one of those things where I think about when I think about diabetes, and talking to athletes about diabetes, because I there's a real value, you know, speaking about the community, for people who are kids to know what you're doing with this, because this is intense working out. It's traveling, it's you know, going TO to different colleges, all this with diabetes, I think people knowing your story is great, especially, you know, parents who can take their kids and point go, look, look what this girl's doing. You know, at the same time, I sometimes get worried that people look at athletes and think Well, yeah, sure, they can do it. But they're like, they're not real people. They're, you know, but you're a real person. You know, it's hard to, it's hard to, it's sometimes hard to see someone can do something like that, and not think that they must have something you don't have. What but you know, and so I like it when people can hear that. So I want to talk a little bit about how you manage your diabetes, because I know recently I saw did Chris Freeman write an article about you?

Kate Hall 42:42
Yeah, yeah, he did, and diabetes forecast. So

Scott Benner 42:45
I've met Chris, a number of times has been on the podcast a bunch of times. And I love the way Chris talks about diabetes. Yeah, it's very sort of, it comes from a perspective of a person who would look at two flat pieces of something and think I could stand on them and travel across snow. You know, when you call it skiing, it seems doable. But when you think about what it really is, there's these two tiny, flat pieces of wood or whatever it's made out of at this point, he straps his foot to it and then looks a great distance in a cold weather situations as I go over there, that's nuts, you're looking right 22 feet down a sandpit going, I could probably jump from here to there. That's not Yeah. But there's something about that idea. That translates to what I kind of think of is sort of like the essence of like diabetes management, like that idea of like, sort of like throwing away the excess not getting mired down in drama, not feeling beatable, like all that, all that stuff. So now I've set you up, I could put you're gonna be like, Scott, my agency is 10. And I'm not good at my diabetes. But But I want to know how you manage day to day like first on your own, like on a regular day, Kate gets up, she's going to class, you know, before you left school, it's just like everybody else. And how do you do that?

Kate Hall 44:06
No, for me, like, it's a lot easier for me to manage, when, like, I know what certain foods do to my blood sugar. Like I always struggled with breakfast growing up, and my blood sugar would always spike so high after breakfast, and then I would take forever to come back down. And then I took a look at what I was eating and I was eating like granola or cereal. And then I would have like fruit and then maybe like some sausages but there was like a lot of carbs and that's why it would spike so high. So now I'm eating eggs and like turkey bacon, and some fruit. So let's say I'm eliminating a lot of the carbs and eating better foods. And then I stopped having the issues of blood sugar spikes. So, for me, I think it's a lot easier for me to manage when I kind of explore different foods and what they do to my blood sugar's. And now I almost have like a routine routine of what I'm eating. So I'm pretty much eating like the same, like 1520 meals throughout the week because first of all, like I like the meals and then second of all, I know that it's not gonna do crazy things. So my blood sugar too.

Scott Benner 45:28
Yeah, Kate, when you're younger, it's probably harder to think about it this way. But I've been alive for a really long time. You just eat the same stuff over and over again. Like it just yeah, you know, yeah, nobody, nobody gets up tomorrow and goes, you know, I'm gonna try capers today. It's exactly worked out that way. So, so having knowledge of how to sort of dominate the food with your insulin is the key. And you know, we talked about how to use insulin on the podcast a lot. And I couldn't, I couldn't possibly agree with you more, like just having a little bit of pre planning goes a long way. And yeah, I tell people all the time, like, I know, you don't want to pre plan a meal. But wouldn't it be great to put 15 minutes worth of effort into this instead of four hours worth of effort chasing your high blood sugar around letting exactly this whole sort of thing? So how do you I mean, you're using it on the pod now?

Unknown Speaker 46:16
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Scott Benner 46:18
And do you use a Dexcom?

Unknown Speaker 46:19
I do. Okay.

Scott Benner 46:21
How long have you been using CGM?

Unknown Speaker 46:24
Um,

Unknown Speaker 46:25
probably about

Kate Hall 46:28
four, five years, probably five, five years now.

Scott Benner 46:33
So you've had the you had the g4 at one point?

Unknown Speaker 46:35
I did. Yeah.

Kate Hall 46:37
At first, I didn't like the idea of wearing like two devices. And I also didn't like calibrating it all the time, either. So I would take breaks from the Dexcom all the time. So I would wear it for a couple weeks, and then not wear for like two weeks or a month and then put it back on. But then recently, this past year, I got the G six. And now I'm like, Alright, I'm wearing this all the time. And I'm not going to take breaks. So I think that's definitely made a difference to

Scott Benner 47:09
it's well, yeah. Now you don't need to calibrate it anymore. And it's generations along that technology just keeps getting better and better.

Kate Hall 47:16
I know. It's insane.

Scott Benner 47:17
Do you think you'll use horizon? When on the pod?

Unknown Speaker 47:20
Yes. Oh, yes,

Scott Benner 47:22
I do. So I am so excited. Yeah, we are to what are your goals, but we just put an episode up last week about exercise and talking about how some people sort of misunderstand their insulin and then jam their blood sugar high so that when they drop when they exercise, they don't go too low. But but there's a way to set your insulin up so that you don't actually that low hook doesn't come hopefully, you don't have to, you know, be adding food. You know, that's the worst thing, right? You're trying to exercise for health. And now you're eating food, right blood sugar up, it's so counterproductive. How do you manage leading up to a race or leading up to a day,

Kate Hall 48:02
it's actually interesting, because when I practice my blood sugar goes low. And then when I compete, it tends to go high. So and I'm practicing way more than I'm competing, I was trying to figure out what to do in those situations. So what I've learned that really helps me for when I'm practicing, is well usually go and practice anywhere from like 10 to noon. So I'll have breakfast and then go and practice probably a couple hours later. But I would have so many issues, my blood sugar's dropping during practice. And I didn't know what to do. So I talked to my doctor, and he's like, Alright, let's try to set a temp bazel an hour and a half for you practice and decrease your bazel by 40 to 50%. And then keep that 10 days long throughout your whole workout. So once I started doing that, and made a huge difference, because what would happen is I would go practice and I feel my blood sugar's going low, like during my warm up, and then I have glucose tabs, then I would bring it up and that would come back down close to the end of the workout. So it's like, I can't go like twice during my workout.

Scott Benner 49:19
You know, shooting for a moment, like you described earlier. You shouldn't for a moment of perfection. And yeah, so you listen, I you would love the episode that I so I sometimes Jenny Smith comes on the show, she's a CD, and we talked through things like that, and we just talked through for an hour. Right? That kind of thing. That's awesome. Yeah, amazing for you because she talked about how to set those bazel rates and you know, even longer than you think it's just it's, she's brilliant and she has type one and she does distance running and stuff like it's really, really amazing, but that's cool. So you are figuring it you're figuring out now I may I and you may have figured it out already. But you know, my guess for why you're low during practice, but not during a meeting. Gentlemen, gentlemen, that's exactly yeah, you're a competitive person. Okay? Yeah, you're out there, and you're all like Kate, and you're pretty, and you're gonna go do your thing, but you want to kill all of those people want them to do want them to not jump, as far as you're going to jump, you want them to lose in a private way, you want to see them walk away crying, when it's over, as you hold your hands up in the air Hi, and feel that inside, or if I just projected that on you,

Unknown Speaker 50:28
um,

Kate Hall 50:30
I guess, but not probably not quite as arrogant. I, I'm a very like, I'm definitely a huge competitor, like, I want to go what I want to win, I get really nervous. So that definitely brings my blood sugar up. But what's I guess, really hard about that is it doesn't go up until, like, the competition starts or like halfway through the competition. So I'll be warming up my blood sugar will be like, 140, everything's good. And then it's like, I don't want to give insulin knowing my blood sugar is gonna go high, and then it ends up going low, and then I can't compete. But I'm always like hesitant about that. So I just like keep it and then every time I keep it just like right up. So it's like, trying to figure out what works the best for competition

Scott Benner 51:23
just said something that I it's making me think I just heard someone say something the other day like this. And I'm racking my brain thinking of who it was. So I can give them credit, but I am not going to come up with. But they said that there's no real, like physiological difference between being nervous and excited. And so that people who feel anxiety or nervousness, if you just tell yourself, I'm not nervous, I'm excited. That actually helps. And I thought that's insane. Right? When they said I was like that, probably, well, then you said you're nervous. And then while you were talking, I googled, am I nervous or excited? And there's an entire like, like science behind this idea. So that's interesting. You can just tell yourself, I'm not nervous. I'm excited.

Unknown Speaker 52:11
That's a good idea. Yeah, should actually try that. talk yourself into it.

Scott Benner 52:15
So again, if any of this works, when you're up on the podium, you just go Scott like that, like, I'll see it in your lips. No, I'm kidding. I will have nothing to do with your success in the certain of that. Listen to my voice. Close your eyes. Unless you're driving, breathe deeply. Concentrate on the words that you hear in your ears. Dancing for diabetes.com. The next time you're in a browser, and you hear the clacking of keys, you'll have an uncontrollable urge to go to dancing for diabetes calm. When I snap my fingers, you can wake up

what are your goals? Like your blood sugar goals? When you're not working out? Are you trying to keep your blood sugar? Do you have a certain like system in place? like where do I keep it not like to let it get higher than a certain number or lower? Yeah,

Kate Hall 53:23
I mean, I'm pretty much just trying my best to keep it in a range. But like even when, if I'd like take a break from training for a while, which is probably only like a couple weeks a year, like a month a year is definitely like having a lot more high blood sugars during that period, because I'm not exercising. So it's just like, that's a whole other thing I have to worry about, too. So

Scott Benner 53:47
yeah, so needs probably go way up. Because you're getting, you're getting free. You're just basically getting, you know, free non insulin, but you're getting free lower blood sugars from all the exercise you're doing. And do you have right? When you work out very hard during the day. Do you see lows later at night? Or have you figured out how to keep that from happening?

Kate Hall 54:06
Sometimes I see lows later at night, but it really depends on like the type of workout. I'm doing. So like with lifting, not so much but with my running workouts. Sometimes I'll see some lows later at night.

Scott Benner 54:19
That's that's that makes 100% sense.

Unknown Speaker 54:21
Yeah, definitely.

Scott Benner 54:23
Okay, Kate, do you do any regular people stuff? Or is it like heart like what do you do when you're not like this? Like in my mind, you're just constantly working towards this goal. Is that the truth or do you have downtime?

Kate Hall 54:36
I am like constantly working towards this goal, but I also do like fun stuff too. So I definitely like a very outdoorsy person. So I like paddleboarding, which I discovered two years ago for the first time, so I love just exploring like different lakes or different rivers and paddleboarding. I really like hiking And that's pretty much pretty much it. I like traveling a lot too. So

Scott Benner 55:04
it's very cool. We've been, we've been anywhere like, amazing.

Kate Hall 55:09
Pretty much any place I've traveled. It's for track. So, like, I've been to Europe, my first time in Europe was back in February, I went to France. And then I went to Europe again in June and competed. But luckily, since I was in Europe for so long that I did have a little bit of time to like explore and sightsee. So I, kind of combining travel with training and my career, so but it works out,

Scott Benner 55:36
hoping someone will invite me to speak in Europe so that I can see places like that.

Unknown Speaker 55:40
Oh, that'd be awesome.

Scott Benner 55:41
That's very cool. Can people well, I guess, before I get to that, this going to the Olympics thing doesn't sound cheap. So how does when do you begin to plan for that? Like, when do you start looking for people to be like, Look, I need benefactors here, if I'm gonna go do this thing. Is that is that a completely? I would imagine it's a it's a much more deep process than people watching the Olympics would imagine.

Kate Hall 56:11
Yeah, I mean, it's obviously very pricey. And the other thing is, like, I'm not even going to find out if I'm going until like, the month before. So it's not like I can plan and get like, the cheapest flights and all of that, because I can't really book anything until I know I'm going to pull it's really just like, finding sponsors and you know, hoping for a shoe contract. So and all of that would would help with that. But it's Yeah, it's definitely an in depth process.

Scott Benner 56:45
Gotcha. It's and so is there like, are you just trying to build your like, I'm trying to find out how can people listening help you like Would it help to build your social media profile even more like would they could you should they go follow you on Instagram? Like what? What gives you? What makes you look like the person I should put the shoes on when the time comes?

Kate Hall 57:02
Yeah, I mean, that definitely plays like a huge part in it. It's just the more the bigger following you have the portable, the more people notice you. So like I'm, you know, sponsored by like Omni pod. So I go and like give speeches for them. And I love it. And it's so much fun because I'm also doing something I love. But yeah, that's a huge part of it is just growing following so I can tell more people about what I love in my life and who I am.

Scott Benner 57:31
That was gonna be my question like even this working out right now like you don't like you're not working at footlocker on the weekends, right? So it's great. You don't have a part time job like you're working on constantly. So you need you need jobs who on the pod sponsors you is or your parents helping out still,

Kate Hall 57:48
at first I helped with like my training expenses, but now it's it's kind of on me which I don't expect them to help me like I want to be able to do this on my own. So yeah, now it's pretty much just me like paying for all my training and living in school expensive.

Scott Benner 58:04
tacular that's really great. Good for you. I I don't I remember it myself when I was 22. And I don't think that even if I could have flunked myself that far through the air that I would have been as together as you are about the rest of the rest of your life. Are you just like a total mess otherwise, like I'm looking for something in the armor here. Kate is there are you you're looking pretty perfect at the moment is what I'm

Kate Hall 58:28
no, I'm pretty like, I don't know. I I like to have a plan. I like to be organized. I'm a very determined person. So

Scott Benner 58:36
seriously, I wish you just a ton of success. I thank you so excited to root for you. And and yeah, absolutely. I'm sure everyone listening will as well. I know how much I loved. I will share this with you. Right? So my daughter's not my daughter. It's not a big. Like, you won't find her running around yelling I have diabetes all the time. Right? Like, she doesn't hide it in any way. She doesn't care if you see her on the pod or next. She'll talk to you about it. The other day met Tom Holland. And she was trying to tell him something that would make her memorable while thousands of people were going by her and as as the security people were pushing her out of the place where she was getting taken. She's like, She's like, I'll see you with the other thing. Remember me? I have I'm a diabetic like selling things trying to like not like I have diabetes feel bad for me. She thought like, what can I yell that will make this guy remember me the next time in me, right? So many people there. He didn't care. My point is she doesn't hide but she's also not real out in front with it. Yeah, you know what I mean? But, but the last time Chris skied in the Olympics, she was younger. And she stood in front of the television watching cross country skiing, that I don't think she cared about one little

Unknown Speaker 59:47
right.

Scott Benner 59:48
And she I remember her saying, He's got the same insulin pump as me. It just looked like she got taller when she said that. Yeah, that's adorable feeling of like, hey, there's that personality. So I have a real opportunity to, you know, the, for other people to have those little moments around, you know, watching you and rooting for you. So it's really exciting. And I'm glad for you. And I'm grateful that you're that you're also not hiding your type one and that you're that you're talking about it too. It's a big deal.

Kate Hall 1:00:20
Yeah, I think other people

Unknown Speaker 1:00:23
who look at

Kate Hall 1:00:24
type one diabetics, they think they're superheroes because they have to manage this disease, like 24. Seven, like you can't even take a break from managing it. But you're also like going out and living a normal life. So a lot of people are scared to open up about it, but it's like, they other people think you're a superhero for being able to do this. So

Scott Benner 1:00:47
no, it is a huge task, taking care of diabetes and podcast is about making it easier for people. Yeah, I very much. It's all it's always been Michael is just anything that I've come across that I've learned that I know helps. I want to share it with other people so that they don't have to have those struggles if you know when they're not necessary.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:10
Yeah, definitely. Okay, I

Scott Benner 1:01:11
really appreciate you doing this. I'm assuming you have to go jump over something now. So I'm gonna let you go. What is the rest of your day look like?

Kate Hall 1:01:19
Oh, actually, it's it's pretty, pretty easy. I'm actually going to like a town hall meeting later to like meet some some people who want to meet me, but that should be pretty fun. And then just kind of my dog really have a Dalmatian. So

Scott Benner 1:01:34
what's the most you know? Because you grew up in Maine, it was probably salmon. I mean, there were really no other choices. Were there. What was your let? Have you had more than one dog in your life?

Unknown Speaker 1:01:49
Um,

Kate Hall 1:01:51
I did growing up. I have a dog when I was younger, and then my family got a dog I think like three, three years ago, but this is like, my first like, own dog.

Scott Benner 1:02:02
Those other dog's names.

Kate Hall 1:02:03
The first one was lady, and then the one they have now still is Morgan.

Scott Benner 1:02:08
Wow, that's specific. Do you think after Morgan Freeman or no.

Kate Hall 1:02:14
So we got it from like, another family. It was already like a year old. And that's what her name already was.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:21
So do you think we can change it

Scott Benner 1:02:22
disappointed when they're like, oh, we're gonna get this dog. It's gonna be great. It's already got a name, though. They're like, it's Morgan. Like, really? All right, I guess.

Kate Hall 1:02:29
Yeah. Maybe they were thinking about giving it a different name. But people it's like a year old already knows this name. So

Scott Benner 1:02:35
I have two. We have two dogs, Indy and bazel. And yeah, if you yell Indy or bazel, they both look, I don't think they I bet. Yeah, I think you could just start calling that Morgan dog. Anything you wanted right now, right?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:47
Just the tone.

Scott Benner 1:02:48
Three days from now. They'd be like, Oh, that's me. I'm Fred. It'd be super easy be great if your parents named changed it from Morgan, Fred. They're doing that even?

Unknown Speaker 1:02:58
Oh, funny this,

Unknown Speaker 1:03:00
or did you like it?

Unknown Speaker 1:03:01
No, it was, it was great.

Scott Benner 1:03:04
I'm glad. I did not mean to characterize you earlier as a murderous, running vindictive person who wanted to.

That's so funny. She's answering the question as to whether or not she had a good time.

Kate Hall 1:03:26
I'm not sure what happens. So funny that I'm like, did

Scott Benner 1:03:28
you hate this? And you're like, no, I got goodbye. I didn't mean to paint you earlier as a murderous, vindictive running person who wanted everyone else's death. I just meant, are you really competitive, and I started painting weird pictures with my sarcasm. And I realized now you grew up in Maine and probably have never heard a sarcastic word in your entire life. Oh, by the way, I want to say, I can't I would love to visit Maine sometime. Because I just hear how beautiful it is. My jokes come from when my son was was recruiting for baseball. I'll let you go in a second. But he got recruited by a really good school in Maine. So it was hard not to want to go to that school. And at the same time, he would like look at me privately and go, I don't want to go to Maine and freeze my ass off. And I was like, yeah, yeah. And he goes and how are we gonna play baseball in Maine? I was like, I don't know what snowshoes on maybe, you know? And then they started talking about Don't worry, our dugouts are heated and then calls like, they're saying that like it's a good thing. But why would you have to heat a dugout, you know, and so he took a call with the coach, because he's like, it's such a like, I'm gonna get such a great education here if I go here, so I'm, he was really seriously thinking about it. Yeah. And, and the coaches like, gets on and he's like, you know, trying to sell him and everything. And he hangs the phone and I said, What do you think he goes really nice guy, super school. I'd be amazing to get a degree from there he goes, but I gotta tell you, it's like part of the sales pitch was we're going on a hunting trip together. He's like, I don't want to shoot something to play baseball. So I'm out. Like,

Unknown Speaker 1:05:04
that's like, That's hilarious.

Scott Benner 1:05:06
I don't think he tried to sell hunting to a kid from like, you know, the New York Philadelphia area.

Unknown Speaker 1:05:11
No, no. That's so funny.

Scott Benner 1:05:16
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