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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 912 of the Juicebox Podcast.

On today's show I'm joined by Ryan Taylor. Ryan has type one diabetes, and he's a reality TV show Star in the UK. If you're listening from England, then he's just a reality TV show Star. While you wait to find out if I offer Ryan a rose, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. I was 1,000,000% Sure I was going to call this episode as happy as Larry. But Ryan just man he was just so good. And I I'll admit later in the episode, you'll hear me say that I it's not what I expected from him. He was terrific. This conversation about type one was masterful. And that's why the episode is called dead chuffed about Ryan Taylor, because I am pleased about Ryan Taylor. Just what a lovely time thanks to a couple of people from the UK in my private Facebook group for confirming that dead chuffed about Ryan Taylor means pleased about Ryan Taylor. You guys are terrific too. All right, you're ready to get started.

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Ryan Taylor 2:40
Yeah, UK Joyce I guess obviously America is the podcast bigger in America, UK. How's it go?

Scott Benner 2:46
Well, it we're just gonna actually why don't we just start Brian, and we'll fill in the rest as we go. So, overwhelmingly, the podcast. It really, really does well in the United States. But oh, cool. Yeah, but there are there are countries where it does strong, like, like, very strong. So I don't know how to put this like in a way that somebody who doesn't track this stuff would would understand. But Apple, Apple takes categories for podcasts, there's yeah, there's a main category. And then there's a subcategory. So I'm in the main category health and fitness. And then in the subcategory medicine. So, okay, so because you got to pick one of them. So I'm looking here so in Great Britain, I am number 45 in the medicine category today,

Ryan Taylor 3:49
last month is crazy. But there's loads of countries you won't even think of so like my tick tock when I first started it I just have a specific diabetic once and like I was going like crazy viral in like Budapest throughout France. There was some videos I got way I got like 4 million views and it was all in like random regions. And like at the start I'm now finally my audience is sort of majority UK and America which is cool. But at the start I'd say I was having to translate in the comments stuff I was saying basically put a transcript and is many different languages possible because my audience at the start was majority random countries like wondering when you would think diabetes is probably bigger.

Scott Benner 4:30
Yeah, so because I have the screen open to answer your first question. This is gonna take like 20 seconds. Okay, but yeah, this podcast is currently charting in Malawi, Turks and Caicos, Brunei, Nambia Bahrain, Moldova, Cambodia, Qatar, Malta, Latvia, Egypt, Luxembourg, Iceland, Kenya, Bulgaria, Nigeria, Slovakia Kuwait, Vietnam, Slovenia, Greece, Romania, the Czech Republic, it's not the Czech Republic. It's Czech Republic, United Arab, Emirates, Hungary, Chile, Thailand, Finland, Israel, Argentina, Hong Kong, Philippines, Belgium, India, South Africa, Switzerland, Italy, New Zealand, Netherlands, Japan, Denmark, Ireland, Norway, Mexico, Spain, Sweden, France, Australia, Canada, Great Britain in the US.

Ryan Taylor 5:26
is crazy, isn't it? Yes, well, it's actually net, you already have a thing. I know how it's I lived in America for a short period of time, basically came back and forth from the staff about probably eight to nine months. And I only ever think of like how it is for Americans, obviously. No, it's very different compared to at least getting your medication in the UK. So you never think that I wouldn't want to cite to people in some of them, like Egypt, like, how did they manage that, but you said they have dou f CGM. And now it's like the same insulin like you wouldn't even think stuff like that. But obviously, it's a disease, which was it one in 14, you now have a form of diabetes. So you just got to be worldwide, isn't it?

Scott Benner 6:03
Yeah. And because a lot of the a lot of the technology that people desire is US based. And those and those companies do not have an easy time getting set up overseas. And then on top of you know what I mean, and then on top of all that, there's an expense to set up and there's probably a cost analysis where they say, I don't know, we can't afford to get into this country, you would be surprised by mostly its UAE, Bahrain, like Brunei, like in their Qatar, I get a lot of emails from people who are like, I'm going to leave the country and buy supplies, and then fly back again. And they and they're trying to make a plan to the some people, there's there were somebody on here, once that, that regularly flies into the US, buys supplies in cash, and then just flies back again.

Ryan Taylor 7:02
That's crazy to me. I know, there's a way there's obviously the price cuts going on at the minute in America. And it's obviously if you have insurance, it's totally different. But my biggest fear, I was the opposite. So obviously in the UK, we get everything, Skype via the NHS, which is great. So I when I was working in America, I happened to forward during COVID. I was in Miami. And the big decision for me was obviously no one knew how long that whole period of time would last. We got told on the news, it might be a three week lockdown or whatever. And my mom was saying to me she's like, You got to take into consideration review. It's different because it's not just free if you get stuck out there the whole summer and there's no flights home how much is your insulin requirements? How much is you see gems and costs. And when we price it all, it was far more worthwhile to get a flight from America even at the prices they were going to at that point to get a flight home just in case and obviously ended up lasting what couple years. So thank God I did. But yeah, so crazy people will fly to America. But to me when I hear I get tagged in some stuff on tick tock some people saying how much they paid for their medication this month, and I feel sick when you see it because it's not, I don't think medication in general you should pay for but then when you see people paying 1000 pounds for an autoimmune disease of medication, which keeps them alive. You can see why people do stupid things like not inject the right amount or find us as little instant as possible, which then makes themselves Yeah, that's when you paying that much for it. Like, you can see why people are doing stupid stuff.

Scott Benner 8:27
Yeah, I think it's not just money. But I think it turns into a rationing mentality, where they're just like, run out of this. You know, what's worse than not taking it off? Not taking any. And so yeah, so I'll just keep stretching. I mean, it's horrible. Now, I don't know how where are you? You know, why don't we do this? Why don't we tell everybody who you are before we keep talking?

Ryan Taylor 8:54
Yeah, let's do this. Let's do introduce yourself. So I'm Brian Taylor. I'm 26 years old. I'm from the UK. It's a small city in the UK. We won't know it's Coventry. But the closest that you will know to it is London. Yeah, I've had diabetes since I was 10 years old and just made the best of it. I'd say I'd say I'm definitely one big thing I preach on social media. And the work I've done with diabetes UK is the worst thing you can tell a diabetic person is they can't do something because of that condition. I think I've always tried to show him that through maybe lifestyle choices, career choices. I've definitely tried to do as many things that people wouldn't think diabetics could do. And I guess that's what sort of drives me now.

Scott Benner 9:37
Yeah. How did we end up hooking up? How did you get on the podcast?

Ryan Taylor 9:43
I reached out to Joe was, I got a reminder, a week ago, about a month ago, I think it was go on the Juicebox Podcast podcast and I was like, sort of what I looked at it and it was a reminder from a year ago I was booked on it, but it was that the About that much of a backlog of people coming on here. It was June last year. I think it was in the UK it was called, like word diabetes week. Or it might be worth diabetes. No, no, it's always worked out easily. And at that point, my agent had got me a load of podcast to do diabetes ones to I've never really been big on sharing diabetes on social media. I wasn't, I was never sort of first to hide that diabetes. If you knew me knew I had it. But I wasn't I wouldn't go out there openly talk about it. And then thinking about your government decision up or not. So last year, I remember she booked us on about three, four or five different diabetes podcast. I think this was one of them. But it was you had that much of a backlog of people. This was the next day, which was

Scott Benner 10:45
you should be on my side, bro. Oh, my God. No, I would love to do that. Here's a link. Describe the first thing you can get. I said that to someone last night who emailed me back and said, I mean, it's March right now. 2023. And the person who emails me back and says, Okay, well, I'll see you around Thanksgiving. It's like, great.

Ryan Taylor 11:03
Yeah, it was literally about that long ago. But yeah, it was really cool. Obviously. One of the podcasts I've only listened to anyway. There's definitely a few that I think are really good. And yeah, just it's cool. To be honest, excellent.

Scott Benner 11:17
Agent, why do you have an agent?

Ryan Taylor 11:20
So I do like, I do, like reality TV act in loads of different things. And after doing a reality show, in 2021, it was a company that approached me and just said, like, we'll help like, well workflow get you more work in different areas. So they've definitely it's definitely been fun. Like I've done a lot of acting since I've managed to do live TV commercials, adverts and stuff. It's never going to be my main thing. I'm never a reality TV. I don't care about reality TV. Like every so often the odd thing pops up that I'm that I want to do that. And I'll get put forward for it. But apart from that, it's just it's again, it's life experiences. It's when I was 16 1514. I never thought I'd have a chance to do any stuff like that. So when I when I got approached and asked do it it's always a yes for me. I'm definitely always there with no I've never dealt with any regrets. I say that

Scott Benner 12:12
what reality show were you on?

Ryan Taylor 12:14
So I did I NC when I was a kid, little baby. I was 21 I did a show called IB for Weekender, which is about potty and and then in 2000 2001 I did the UK version of Jersey Shore called Geordie Shore. Oh, no kidding. Yeah.

Scott Benner 12:32
Did any of those things raise your profile in a way that was shocking to you?

Ryan Taylor 12:40
More like so went to the iBeacon. So it sounds expensive. So I'd be if we kind of when we got off of that we were so young. And to us it was a dead shirt. Like it totally been. I don't even watch it anymore. And I was like, like 19 I was probably like just above the target audience who watches that show? It's just about going into IB firepot and a little bit. And well I'm not I'm not I didn't take full advantage of all the opportunities that come after. But we've got a decent amount of lag a little bit of falling for it. Geordie Shore is a sort of show that you'd expect to get a lot from, but I'm always realistic in it like it was season 25 or something that I went on, but people don't watch this crap for years. The main reason I did it was it was my favorite show when I was a teenager like when I was 13 I never thought I'd get challenged on it when I got offered it I was like yes it didn't do it's not the show didn't tell you I think it's actually been it is finished now as always when it was last year as but the opportunities after I've been like I said getting into agent getting into so many different things in podcasting so act in commercials and I do always have to pay I do put a lot of it down to I get I got basically a foot in the door from Geordie Shore I do think the only reason I still get a lot of opportunities in that sort of worldly because I do while out and I don't think you're not getting just offered stuff just gives you around the reality show a couple years ago you've got to see that you've got a good background in actually over performing everything you do and I do think yeah, that's pretty much where I was to go but Geordie Shore was some people thought there was other people I think for me who do in that first season or that they put on another workshop again, I think can come on like reality. TV definitely pays more in America as well but it also is just watched by more people is so oversaturated in the UK now that like I did it because it's a once in a lifetime experience. That's why I see it as I didn't do it so I wouldn't have to do anything for the rest of my life and I live off doing crappy crappy posts on Instagram.

Scott Benner 14:37
That must have been like just sitting there listening to someone say well this is it where I'm famous

Ryan Taylor 14:42
now. Yeah. You'd be shut down people who move country for it like from other parts of the UK into England for those people who left their jobs for it. I didn't know that. I got paid holiday but my other job and then I went on and got paid to do it. So I got double pay basically. There was nothing Yeah, I didn't do it was is never the angle from ours for anything that comes from it. It's just an add on. But at bare minimum, I have this crazy experience of getting filmed partly and having a bit of fun and going on the show that I loved when I was a teenager.

Scott Benner 15:12
Yeah, so it's sort of, Am I saying it right. Geordie Shore?

Ryan Taylor 15:17
Yeah, Geordie Shore. Yeah. Okay.

Scott Benner 15:20
So when I looked like I've been like banging around while we're talking and everything, there's an article here that says that daily mirrors and it's like it's it says, Ryan Taylor claimed the show's producer would not let him discuss diabetes while dating on the show. Is that true? Yeah.

Ryan Taylor 15:39
Yeah, I've tried to get some of these things are really just because, well, it fat have I'm not too bothered by that one. I'm probably about some of the stuff I have my own tick tock definitely cool that a lot of things by reality TV just for a bit of fun. They seem to make a lot of papers. The problem of it now is in my head, I still I still wouldn't mind doing another show at some point. And it doesn't look good when you type in your name on Google. And that comes up. But yeah, I had someone the other day basically, they were once featured by a show we've seen quite interested in turned around and said they brought up three or four different articles and they said that doesn't look good. If you want to be in this industry, I just said that I don't really want to be in the industry, like you message me like I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna change it. But with the diabetes, one that was more specific, because I was starting, I was starting to get a feel for personal diabetic content on Tik Tok. And I just remember, remember somebody from when I was on the show, I basically was sort of set up who you're dating, but I was dating a fellow diabetic, and you don't know this person before you get there. We get on the show, we start having a chat about diabetes. And the producers come over to straightaway and say, Oh, it's really good that he's getting on but we can't air and so I've made the Tiktok by and people if people weren't quite like they've got a lot of people on my side that have some people, Oh, who cares about diabetes, but some people were like, oh, it's awful. They wouldn't do that. I wasn't making that to attack the show. I haven't had the show about those other stuff. But personally with diabetes, and I do understand it's not the best look for a type one diabetic when we're talking about diabetes and our experience with it. And then that night, we're both blackout drunk, I guess it's a it's a partnership in the day. So they probably don't want to be seen as given advice that this is the lifestyle you should live with diabetes. I also think when it's two people who, who they wouldn't the sun accent though, but when you meet when you date someone, you've got a connection, and they always have the same condition as you. To me that was pretty cool. And that was a big thing of like, while we got on even if we had no connection romantically. We both got a condition which is pretty cool to have we both done quite cool thing. She's a former singer. So the fact that we're able to bond over that, to me, if you cut that hose part out, you can have quite a big part of our story on the show. So that was what I that was my main gripe with it. But yes, the Daily Mirror around me like

Scott Benner 17:56
that's so she you are in this house. I mean, I assume the idea is, right. I don't know another way to say this as a as a guy who doesn't date men, but you're you're hot like You're like you're very attractive guy. So so they put you in this house, I imagine with other incredibly attractive people and then alcohol on top, and then they film what happens. And yeah, you're you meet a girl. And as you're talking to her realize that the two of you have diabetes.

Ryan Taylor 18:33
So the thing that I've said to people in the comments that said that the thing I was more bothered about is I thought the way we found out was triple A diabetic, was very interested in so I knew a little bit about Amelia. I had Googled her and stuff like that do the basics, didn't know she was diabetic, we get in there and on. I think like one everyone's sort of getting ready for the second part. And I do outfit scientia looks like a different eye on camera or whatever. And she's in our room. And she's like, looking in the mirror or some of the guy says, oh my god, I'm so full of bruises on my leg or whatever. And she turns around to us and she and I was often asked to run through I said that'd be stupid, like so fine. She says our nose is from injections, and she's oh, by the way, I'm diabetic. It's not like heroin or anything comes up but it's not laughing. But like it was just like I fully aware of her talents. And I was there on the arm diabetic too. And she had to fight it was like just being in there with it. She had like a CGM, which I'd always been against having one of them and like just getting to speak to a few days it made me try one straight after. So like I do think it would be cool to have little moments of that in there. But at the same time that I guess to me, it matters more because I'm diabetic. Is that what the audience really cares about? But that's for the producer to the side?

Scott Benner 19:46
Yeah, maybe maybe it makes you too real. Yeah.

Ryan Taylor 19:50
In reality, without being all over shopped on reality TV, but reality TV is less real than something He's often an act and we'll just say that it's very, they the producers have an idea of what they what they want from each person. They have people writing down the script each evening and what they think is going to happen the next day. And they're essentially trying to make it fit that script because they can only film for so long. And if everyone's just getting unhappy as Lowry and nothing's going wrong and just chaos then where's the drama in these episodes? I think a lot of people don't realize that reality TV is probably more scripted than the scripted entertainment entertainment that they watch.

Scott Benner 20:32
You're telling me the Curb Your Enthusiasm is not as well. Scripted is the show. So well, you know, but to dig into it for a half a second. We're like putting yourself in the perspective of the producer of the show. Like you're trying to paint a picture of like, I mean, it's it's young, attractive sex, alcohol, right like and yeah, that's it the year along they're going so I CGM. What is that?

Ryan Taylor 21:00
They're probably sitting every year why? What are they talking about? We want it we want someone talking about CI in and I love her after one day. I get it. They're not interested tell you about us. And that's why when I made the TIC tock I sausage pork roll. I was sort of like no, like, I wasn't mad, but I understand it like yeah, who the hell wants to watch that? When that Geordie Shore obviously is very similar to Jersey Shore. It's even more than a normal reality TV show is branded as sex party relationships, all that stuff.

Scott Benner 21:30
I just imagined people in like a room somewhere wearing headphones, like, you know, overseeing the filming. And one of them turning to the other one and going did the hot guy just tell the hot girl that he has diabetes like that? That's not fun.

Ryan Taylor 21:47
To cut out. They're

Scott Benner 21:49
really getting into it. What the hell somebody look up a CGM? What's the CGM? For God's sakes? These two separate them?

Ryan Taylor 21:58
Yeah. There's definitely a spanner in the works. So what they expected?

Well, I always I always try. Like I said, I'm always gonna be real to me when I'm on them shows and stuff that I I was already pretty uncomfortable with that you dated on TV wasn't meant to be gay. And it got swept again, that's in the COVID story. It was meant to be the ultimate party season. So I'm actually from so jordiz are from Newcastle in the UK. I'm not from Newcastle. But the whole concept of this season because Geordie Shore was sort of getting bored and dying out a little bit. We're gonna take people who worked very party jobs elsewhere. So I was on the X, I was a nightclub promoter in America. We had a dancer on it, he was danced in nightclubs, we had the strippers all sorts we were going in, and we were going to be the new party, the young party animals that we're going to show the original Castlight house party, we get into isolation, which is sort of they keep you in there to make sure a few days we go on the show so they can get everything set up. While that happens, another COVID lockdown happens and all of a sudden, the whole show changes to We can't leave the actual Geordie Shore house now. So we need to put them on the plan. So that's when it became Oh, you're dating each other? At that point, if you leave, you're not getting paid. You've just wasted all these weeks in isolation, and you didn't get to see if it's gonna be a good show on that. So it the fact is that beta loads a bit like weird for me, I just think that I'm never gonna, like, you know, I'm never gonna meet anyone on TV, especially reality TV, who's actually what I look for in a girl. So I definitely, yeah, I was always gonna be myself when they finally realize as soon as it changed from partying today, and I can party hard, but I'm probably not gonna be the most entertaining person date and like, my specific type, and that's always what I go for.

Scott Benner 23:38
Brian, I'm gonna ask a difficult question. You just said something, right? You just say I'm not gonna meet a girl that I'm interested in dating on a reality show? Yeah, but you're on a reality show. So are you a guy that women wouldn't be interested in dating?

Ryan Taylor 23:54
Oh, man, I'm very lucky to have found a woman who puts up with me I'm a nightmare state and I like there's so many things that I do in career wise, it's never for just being a terrible boyfriend or anything. It's only things I do career wise, which is not fun to be my girlfriend when I'm doing that. I'm doing an ad and they decide on the day that okay, you're going out with this girl in the yard. You've got a kiss my girlfriend I suppose. Where is this money? It's another it's one of them. I wouldn't do myself. I like to think I'm really good in every other way. But yeah, the I personally don't think it's probably fun to date someone who does a lot of work I do. But like I said if I find someone that will put with it then I'm quite lucky man.

Scott Benner 24:38
Oh, of course. So you're see you're 26 Yeah 26 Okay, so you said earlier what was the other show Ibiza Weekender is that are uncut yeah

Ryan Taylor 24:50
yeah, I'd be for weekend that's now changed to a different shows now called cover so we can but yeah, I'd be for I was on there years ago.

Scott Benner 25:00
So they stopped a visa winter Cabos.

Ryan Taylor 25:02
And yeah, it's just like a basis everyone Geordie Shore changed up and put in new people. And it was the same as that the show was getting a bit old, so just change location. Gotcha.

Scott Benner 25:12
And so how many different places have you like how long I guess does it take to film a show? That's my first question.

Ryan Taylor 25:20
Oh, you will be surprised. It depends on what is getting fit in. Like, for example, like Geordie Shore, usually, like the normal jordiz loved us on that show, because they will film for six weeks to make eight episodes, but it's because there's, there's so little stuff happening. That like, you need to form fat long to get enough bear stuff that can go on the show with us because we were wearing that and it was dating. Like every episode, you had all the people who were currently dating each other out Yeah, to show that date show whatever's going on with them, do they get richer with them or not? And then you had new people entering who's he gonna go for her she's gonna go for there was that much sorry, Geordie Shore, we filmed for literally days. It was, and they got a whole series out of it. And I think like, it's crazy. Like when I think we actually work out what we got paid per day. Because of that it was very well, our usual series of a reality show will take probably you can out, it was at least two weeks up to six weeks or six weeks to film. But we managed to get it well I got asked in less than a week, because there's that much going on each day was actually like two episodes. So

Scott Benner 26:26
it's interesting. I'm using big brother in America as an example. But they're sort of like two different kinds of watchers, they're the people who want to see the program that comes on once or twice a week, it's an hour long, it's just it's it's everything turned up to 100. Because it's those little moments. And then there are other people who will watch the live stream of just people wandering nothing happening. Just people living, like like watching an anthill from far away, you know, and I don't know, it's, I don't care for it one way or the other. If I'm being honest, I don't. I mean, my daughter, when my daughter was younger, my wife, my daughter, my daughter's friends, like they would like all come to the house and sit and watch, like Big Brother, for example. And then they'd sit around and talk about it afterwards, like this one, and like that, and I was like, Oh, my God, like, I would just leave, I'd go, I'm gonna go upstairs. But so big,

Ryan Taylor 27:19
big river has, as is our place. So I always had this thing. I've said it on loads of podcasts. I said, when I was a teenager, and if you'd looked at me when I was a teenager, and you thought I'd ever do reality TV, you, you'd be off PMO. And like, there's no charge in everything I'd make on. So I always go based on this. My three favorite TV shows when I was a reality TV shows when I was a teenager, one was Magaluf Weekender, which turned into IB for weekend, which is now kind of last weekend. So I've gotten that. My other one was Geordie Shore. And my third one was Big Brother. So that is going to be the last one that I want to do. Hopefully, at some point we get Yeah, it's I know it's going back in the UK this year, it would definitely be something that I reach out to him about going on. So I had to worry, though, but it's just it would be cool. Because I've said that in podcast, probably about two, three years now that oh, that's the only reality show I'd do left. And like it would be pretty cool

Scott Benner 28:11
to do that is huge. In my house, there's a cup in my cabinet that says Big Brother on it, because they bought they bought bought them to us while they were watching the show. You know, and I think too, and then we'll move on. But I see I can see the perspective of of a producer who would say, while these two people have diabetes, it's not interesting to anybody who doesn't have diabetes. It's not what we're selling here. But I think it's short sighted because a lot of people have diabetes, and I think they would have been really interested in it and probably would have latched on to you and come back to hear more about it or just to see you after they realized you had type 100%

Ryan Taylor 28:47
I don't think it was actually the board. Like the thing that people wouldn't be interested in what from what I gathered from Amelia, which I said on the tic toc. I said, I think it's it was purely the fact that they can't be seen as giving any sort of medical advice. They don't want to do it. And they never want to get caught in a situation where, oh, I'm type one. I saw these two people have type one on your reality show. I started partying every weekend. And now something tragic happens to me. I remember they ever want to be customers or anything like that, which is fair enough. I do get that. Wherever it was also the finger is not interesting to them, then I don't know. But that's what I mean. Is it to me, so they can't be seen as given any sort of medical advice on such a complicated condition.

Scott Benner 29:32
That's interesting. And Amelia Lily right. We can say her name once. Yeah, yeah. Well, I just pulled her up and I agree or legs look fine. So

Ryan Taylor 29:42
maybe it's amazing.

Scott Benner 29:44
Terrific. She was on X Factor in

Ryan Taylor 29:47
UK. Yeah, that's so that was our big storyline. So when they came into me they said you're dating Amelia like what do you like but I quickly was like, oh crap that I watched it years ago on The X Factor and I really fancied her so that their big storyline was my mother crushing us since I was 18? I was you sort of you've sort of adjusted that a bit I just said I really liked on The X Factor but so that's what I that's what this storyline runway.

Scott Benner 30:09
Yeah, I'm gonna say she's two years older than you.

Ryan Taylor 30:12
Yeah, well partly she is my childhood crushes something that if you look on YouTube, there's some clips of a media makes Ryan's childhood dreams come true. Yeah, they love a story. They

Scott Benner 30:24
love a story. Yeah, no, that's interesting. So, okay. Where do I want to go from here? You I do have what I guess I have one question. It's gonna sound like it's about the show, but it's not really when I get contacted by a lot of people, and they want to know how do I successfully drink and to your point, like really drink with diabetes? And I mean, is this what is the secret is the secret you leave your blood sugar high so you don't have a problem with a low while you're drinking? Or do you really have it worked out?

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Ryan Taylor 33:09
There's no sweet science to it through is there's like I said, when I was a club promoter that was probably the rest of us years of my life because you'd be out all night pie in. And you'd also be risking so many other hormonal things which play which play a factor on your blood sugar. So a total lack of sleep because we'd be up first thing in the next day getting people signed up on our table for that night. So there was so come into it. Marketing is always a routine. I've said it to me before, it sounds like the most reckless lifestyle ever. But even when I lived in Vegas, I had a routine. I knew at a certain time, whether it's 4am 430 I'm going to be wrapping up at the club, I know that ideally I'm gonna want to be in bed by let's say 6am I'm going to be up at 11 00 and get back out on the strip and start getting people in. So if I knew that, to me, I always did inject for my drinks and this is because I've got to the point where I cannot drink vodka Diet Coke I hate it. If you drink vodka Diet Coke you you should be okay rarely you literally shouldn't really spike and then you'll get dropped play and you can't like with food for me I have to drink some of the bit sugar in because I hate the taste that drink now. So I would inject as I go along during the night. And then when you get to the point where you're gonna go low, I would then eat before bed. I'm lucky that I can eat for anything. So no matter what even if I'm ridiculously drunk, going to be sick. I will eat through an old stomach it fine. And then I'd wake up in the morning a good level. Now I now have a wine guy Guess I'm getting old. And again, wine is a bit of a blood sugar spike and drop later but again, I won't be out all night anymore. I'm not not as much as a pot. Yeah, so if I'm drinking it, it's definitely Brian Jett. For what I'm drinking I take into account because I drink it fairly often. I know how much he's gonna raise my blood sugar And then when you get to the point where several hours later we're going to start getting that drop from it. Oh, eat again. It's not as convenient. I do think sometimes if you're in a position where you can't maybe you haven't got a CGM, it's more, you're not gonna be testing yourself a lot. It might be better to let your blood sugar's run slightly high, and then the drop won't affect you through the night. But to me, it certainly is preparation like I used to go out with that test get some times I just again go to bed before we're about testing. And I'd always think about not a lot guard. So like he's only a few years ago, but I feel like God I wouldn't dare do you like now it always check because I know how fast things can change your blood sugar. I just think if you're more prepared, no matter what if you test at night, even if you're still high, you know to factor in, okay, I'm going to drop by a certain amount because the alcohol, but it's trial and error, I'm not saying go out and drink every weekend, just so you can factor it in just so you learn enough about it. But if you drink once a year, it's gonna be a lot harder to know what to inject for when you're when you're drinking, than if you're doing a little bit more regularly. So if it's a once a year occasion, maybe err on the side of caution and suffer with some bad blood sugar for that one night because it's not worth risking it to me. Yeah. So

Scott Benner 36:14
when you were younger, you I mean, you basically just got lucky for a while. You didn't get oh, right, and then your blood sugar's higher.

Ryan Taylor 36:23
There were times where I got lucky with higher and lower. There was times I have vivid memories on one certain night where we got back after an all day like a rave or whatever. And I'll be and I remember getting into bed. And at this point, I was getting a weird thing where I wasn't Sensing my blood sugar's as well. And I wasn't sensing going low as well as usual. And I still was just wrecking it as it did. And I knew we had a big day tomorrow. So I took a sleeping tablet. And as I was literally dozing off, and rolling over and being like crap about tests, our test was off and was 4.1. And I've been partying all day, drinking all day, a lot of steps a lot of alcohol. I would have went crazy low and that seemed to have that could have prevented me from waking up. Yeah. And there was there's vivid memories of that where it's like God thank God rolled over and testing South don't do that the previous two nights when it's obviously you can tell but so there's there's definitely, I was so lucky. I had the best time of my life doing it. It was unreal. I can't even think of being that reckless now.

Scott Benner 37:29
Yeah. 4.1 for people listening 74 So yeah, you're, you're, you're at bat as low as you want to be. And yeah, and then you're falling asleep and you're and you're waiting for a sleeping pill to kick and on top of all that you're that

Ryan Taylor 37:43
Yeah. And you've got the drop of all the alcohol where enough potentially the the post exercise drop, because that was one thing when we were abroad. We were racking up 20 30,000 steps a day when we're at a party arrive every night. Yeah, you looking at a big sizable drop. I went a lot food that night, I think I still woke up at like, only like a slightly low ish level the next day.

Scott Benner 38:05
You may I say, if I drank to excess, and was out eating late at night and everything. I don't think I'd have abs. So where is there a lot of exercise in your life as well.

Ryan Taylor 38:22
I'm very there's a lot more when I was young as a personal trainer for many years, and it was my life. Like, I didn't see it as my life. But when I worked well actually look at how, when you're in the gym or day, you've got time you can stretch over the day you do some cardio in the morning, I'd get in a session afterwards, I'll go sauna steam room, I can't do that. Now I'm busy. 24/7. But one thing I am is I'm very if you look at my tic tock you you think I terribly and it is sort of to prove a point. I think that is very much meat eating crap food and inject him for it. And a lot of it is to show I'm very big on showing that like you you can do what you want with diabetes. You can manage it no matter what you don't have to eat zero carb. You don't have to do any firm. But I think the only way to still have our daily weight works me doing this is if I still have good blood sugar's are still look reasonable while doing it. So the way I do it is I'm very active. I try and get in 10 15,000 steps every single day. I try and do some form of weight training every day. I do somewhat outside hobbies. I do professional wrestling. So I'm training for that at the minute. So there is a lot of activity in my life. I'm trying to be more functionally fit now. But it's not like when I was a personal trainer. I was living to be like a bodybuilder or even when I was a club promoter in America. Like I cared very much about how the I was gonna look on the beach. Right now my main part is always health. But yeah, a big part of it is I'm still going to eat crap because I will show people that like, mainly that like you can still do it with diabetes, I guess so 2520 to 50 messages a day. via Tic Tac Toe Instagram asking for advice on like diet, diabetes. And I do think it's, I do think I will reach a lot of people in the next few years and hopefully golf and mesh that you can do what you want as diabetes, because for so long, they have been told by doctors, gurus, dietitians that your carbs have to be in the 50 grams a day, you don't get to enjoy this everything. It's enjoy that. And that's actually why, in my opinion, they suffer so badly when they do you're never going to keep on that diet for life. So when you do have that cheat day at Christmas Day, and you have that cheesecake, you don't know what the how to inject for it. She's never that bad. You've never, you've stopped your diet so well, that all of a sudden, when you throw in a lot of carbs and fats, yeah, your blood sugars go sky high. And then you're reaffirming what that person has told you. Oh my god, I can't eat foods. I think I don't think people should be told I'm a very big phenom work with diabetes UK to do seminars with young children. And a big thing is there's like, tribe, like you're going to try it with a new life anyway, I'll be open eyes, it's how you my my experiences with everything, not just food. But when pie in with girls with this and that. I'm not going to reach it dads and tell them, but I'll be totally honest with you guys. And my biggest advice is be your own Encyclopedia of knowledge. Like you don't ever learn how to deal with a certain situation if you don't put yourself in that situation.

Scott Benner 41:22
Right? Right, I have to tell you, I'm certain you probably don't listen to this podcast. But you and I are so aligned on this. It's, it's absolutely freaking it's I started this podcast saying to people, I don't care how you eat, that's not my business. You need to understand how insulin works with the foods you're eating, and be right and you can go ahead and restrict carbs. But it's always been my just from my personal experience. Doing that just at some point, there's just a day where you go, I can't eat chicken again, you know, or I just I can't I can't do it anymore. Like, I don't want bacon like you don't want to get into a spot in your life when you don't want bacon. If you and so you need to understand how does this insulin work in this situation for me. And then after that I tell people you go eat any way you want and apply that knowledge to what you're doing. Because I want you to have stable, lower safe range, blood sugars, no matter what you want to do, and your activity levels and everything. I'm just it's so funny, because I'm listening to you for the last couple of minutes. And I was like with the exception of the fact that you are half my age 700 times better looking than I am. And British you and I are saying the same exact thing.

Ryan Taylor 42:43
So that's and I think it's so necessary because there's there is other people who are actually really admire in the diabetes space online, because they motivate me to to do better. But I put myself in perspective of a few years ago, when I saw that sort of content saying you've got to eat like they should call you that. It would make me put me off ever wanting to talk about diabetes on social media. I've never been that I've always been someone who's exactly what I've wanted to eat. I can't do a keto diet, I've been through so many calories in a day, I don't even know how many hundreds of grams of fat I'd have to eat to sustain my body weight, like, it just wouldn't happen. So I would see still people online. And for so long. I want to like share my story with diabetes I never did. Because I was I'm not that person. I haven't got totally private reasons I don't eat 100 grams of carbs a day, I want. And I realized like, the more people don't want to be told you've got to do that. They want to be educated on exactly how insulin works, and how can how much how you can then use that to help you with whatever your diet needs. Whatever your exercise needs are, I think a big thing we benefit from now is how easy it is all food labels have carbohydrate counts on them all my fitness pal, all the different apps you can use. Now there's other truckers in America as well. We're in a there's a massive benefit to having technology in this time. And we shouldn't be told I didn't quite go through it. He told me a bit controversial and I said if your guru if you're a doctor, if you're a parent, and you tell you, your kids, they've got eat a certain way they or they can't participate in the same hobbies as their friends go into. They can't live a certain lifestyle that they've always dreamed of living. You are the problem that you are what's going to cause depression, anxiety, unhappiness in your children, you're not going to let them live the life they want it and then they're going to be they're always going to resent having diabetes because I did for years. And now it's one of the most positive things in my life. I say it all the time to people that I hated having it for years. I was always Oh my God, even when I was living a good life in America party and abroad. It was always Oh joy if I didn't have to bring my own simple Bovary. I wouldn't need an extra three suitcases worth of stuff. But But, but at the same time now this is only positive because some of the best people I meet is through social media and talking about Diabetes getting to. And it keeps me more on track. It keeps me more on track. So I know I'm posting my readings on my story every day on tick tock, I'm going to be a little bit better than I would usually word. So there's definitely, yeah, I don't think people should ever be scared to talk about diabetes. I do a lot of tiktoks talking about diabetes data and how early you should mention that when you're dating someone, some people they're lying. To me, I've always been scared to mention the other day, and I was born now I used to hide it for weeks months until they had to see me inject. That's the first time I've talked about it. Now. It'd be one of the first things I talked about, because it's such a big part of my life. And I think it's only getting to the point where you're comfortable. You're diabetes, comfortable your management of it. You know, it doesn't change anything in your life, really, apart from the fact you've got to be screwed on 24/7. That's what's made me embrace it.

Scott Benner 45:48
Ryan, what's your handle on tick? Tock? I don't follow anybody on tick tock, but you're gonna be my first.

Ryan Taylor 45:53
So Ryan T one day. All right.

Scott Benner 45:57
And I don't think that's completely true. I do. I think I follow a couple of people, but I see you okay. Yeah. All right. Brian, can I say something that's gonna sound wrong at first, but yeah, you'll take it the right way. I don't know how to say this. I made. I made an assumption about you because of how you look. And I wasn't right.

Ryan Taylor 46:21
Right. Now, I look like I don't

Scott Benner 46:24
know, you look forward. Well, here's what I mean. Just in case you're not understanding, right? You're pretty and in shape. And I thought, Oh, God, I'm gonna have to talk to this guy about reality shows for an hour. And what else are we gonna talk about? And you're the exact opposite man. You're Yeah, it's it's exciting to talk to you about diabetes. Like you've no idea how, like, they just kind of like lit up I was when you were talking. I mean, yeah.

Ryan Taylor 46:51
So I tried for so long. I've tried for so long to not be sort of pigeon holed into beard, like I really do what I say was never a big part of life. But I do in the standards for conception that I'm a very big headed all about myself. Who, yeah, probably only cares about Jim and this and that. And yeah, I tried to be very far away from that. But I said to doctors for years, like one of the things I loved about my parents, when I got diabetes, they're the most best parents in the world, they would have done absolutely anything to me, they would just learn everything about diabetes themselves if I wanted them to. I hated the fact that I sorted the kids who let their parents do that. Because I knew when I was going to get to 18, I was going to do stuff in my life where I wouldn't have contact with my parents. So I don't want to be ringing them when I'm at my first sleepover, when I'm a teenager saying, How much do I inject for this coke, like, I was from the age of 11. I was on that PubMed. I was researching everything about diabetes. And I said, I've built this encyclopedia of knowledge, which is called share online. But I'm also very passionate about other people's stories with diabetes. It's a it's a it's a good subject for me the most fun I have in my life. Yeah,

Scott Benner 47:59
I also imagined at some point you were planning on dating a ton of women and you didn't want your mom you need your mom. They're going Honey, don't forget the Bolus for that.

Ryan Taylor 48:09
Yeah. Get that nighttime insulin. Yeah, that's a big thing. I've got a lot of videos in recent weeks about the importance of your partner into diabetes management and I would never say as like a of my ex ally I will always have a soft spot in my heart for all of them because they were my partner during very important years of my life. If only this year, I realized how important be with my current girlfriend, how important it is to have someone who shows such an interest in your diabetes management. She doesn't sit there and want to carb count on me or anything but she she knows how important it is to my life factors that in fact I spent a lot of time online talking about a lot of time doing videos about it. She also is massively encouraged she's she always be on the game plan with me. So if I we get we drink a lot we party when we go we do our little holidays each month we do a trip somewhere we drink a lot with pie, we eat crap food. But if I come back and say I need to turn it off for the next couple of weeks. I'm the chef so I'll cook or anything she wants. But she's always she's on that time with me. If I say my blood sugar readings haven't been good for a while I need to go some really basic foods just so I can get back into control and sort of get a sense of what's going on. And wouldn't even be a question she's she's on that same diet with me. And that's really cool tough.

Scott Benner 49:27
If you What do I want to say if you look like be What do you think you would do for a living?

Ryan Taylor 49:35
I think I'll do what you do. And I hope to I have to do it anyway. That's my end goal. It's gonna sound very big headed. And but I've always been someone that as I've hoped by the time I pass away, I will have helped more young diabetics than anyone else on the planet and that's what I intend on doing. And it doesn't even seem like a lot stick out to me. But I know there's people out there who have maybe even if it's a doctor or even people that you put out, so you can pick us every single week and reach millions people, I still think by the time I pass away, I will reach more. And it's just because I feel like I was made to be the person to do it because of the lifestyle that I live when I was younger. That will catch the eye and will be intriguing to so many teenagers, and also my honesty as well. But also to give a full perspective on it. I think it's very easy for someone who maybe hasn't done anything crazy in the last big diabetes didn't hold you back from anything. I think I've constantly proved our one goal I've set for myself is to each year do something I never thought I could do. Because I want to prove that I doesn't hold you back when I think because of that. Over time. And that's my that's my goal in life.

Scott Benner 50:49
Right? There's no way you've seen the movie twins with Danny DeVito. And Arnold Schwarzenegger, right.

Ryan Taylor 50:56
I've heard of it. I love it. I've never I've never watched it.

Scott Benner 50:59
You understand the concept of it that these two people who look nothing alike are actually twins, twins. Yeah. I'm gonna tell you something right now. We're twins. You and I are that we're the diabetes pair of that you're obviously Schwarzenegger in this scenario. And I'm Danny DeVito. But I've said on this podcast a bunch of times, like there are moments when you're talking about other things. And the way I usually put it as I guess people, some people might find it morbid, but when I die, I want a bunch of people to show up at my funeral and be like, That guy helped me. Like, like, my blood sugar's better because of that. I listened to a podcast, but an odd thing. You know, like I, I pushed a couple of buttons on my phone and listen to people talk about diabetes, and my health got better. And I don't, by the way, let me be clear, I don't really want you all to come to my funeral. I'm just trying, I don't even think I want a funeral. To be honest. I might just a little, you know, when they burn you up? I think I'm good with that. And yeah, yeah, I'll take that. But, but my bigger point is, is just what you're saying. Like if I would keep talking about it and be serious about it. I think there's a way to reach people with good information. And I think there's a way to give it to them. So that they can take it up and actually use it in their life and not just intersect with what you were kind of talking about earlier, which is the way the establishment likes to talk about, which is in a way that nobody wants to listen to isn't in any way fun or engaging, and in the end, doesn't actually help you because they won't go the extra mile to talk about how the insulin works. They'll you know, and I find I want to be clear, don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are plenty of people who eat like a low carb lifestyle because they want to and they enjoy it. And I'm not talking about them. But people who find themselves limiting their carbs, because they can't figure out diabetes. i It makes me sad. And for the same reason that you talked about it, like just making decisions in your life one way or the other, that that's not what you want to be doing. To fit yourself into a problem that doesn't really exist, you just don't understand how to do it. And and that's just a It's just a shame. You know, if that's happening to people,

Ryan Taylor 53:21
I think it's the lazy way out for the medical industry because there's so many more factors that fit into diabetes management, or if you actually break down as a million hormone levels, which also will cause it was a big one I had a huge surgery and experienced firsthand the effects of high and extremely low cortisol and how that affects you diabetes after but there's a million other factors I said you activated there your movement your lack of sleep will make you insulin resistant people but the easiest way to just put it in a manual for loads of trainee doctors treat and for them to spew it to millions of people is the less carbohydrates you eat the less the easier it is to control. However, it doesn't take into effect the fact that they at some point they either don't might not want to eat low carb or the fact that it doesn't take effect that eventually they are going to cheat they are going to have something else and then if you've never trained him to try enough different diets and to try and have different foods that they learn their own body then you haven't really done anything you basically put in a plaster over the the injury just put it on there temporarily. I do think one thing I was crazy with that it's managing like I said I was a bit of a mad scientist and with diabetes I'll try every different form of training in the gym see how it affected the blood sugar I tried every diet I did it all fruit vegan diet I did the because I saw it was really good for making it too sensitive. I've done all meat carnivore diets, I've done low carb, high carb and then I realized like yes might have a slightly better effect on my body one than the other but not not worth enough to be like oh I have to eat these certain foods. So then it becomes a thing of oh what you're gonna enjoy because how many years you have on this planet Your food control a massive part of the dopamine release in your brain. Are you really going to eat foods that you hate? Just so you can have that perfect HB one C? Or are you going to just spend a little extra time working out how to make that HPA once the good? No matter what?

Scott Benner 55:13
Right? I love you. I don't I don't know. I'm sitting here daydreaming about flying to England and doing a short podcast series with you in person about

Ryan Taylor 55:23
oh my god, that'd be that's got to be done. Now. You can't fit that in my head. We've got to make this happen.

Scott Benner 55:29
It's just it's like, oh my god, I swear to you that you're the nicest surprise I've had in a long time. Seriously, it's and I don't and I I feel like I'm gonna just apologize. I said it once. I really did miss judge you. I honestly, I did the thing that you tell people not to do. I when I went off some of my other experiences I've had where? Yeah, there have been people who have come on, they're like, I'm an actress. And I'm like, Oh, okay. And then that's nothing else that happens in the conversation just like, can we dig into any of these things? And the answer is usually no. But you could go on forever about this. And, and really, intelligently and well thought out, like your thoughts are very clear and valuable on the subject, and I'm trying to anyway, I'm never gonna do that again. Like it's, it's okay. Yes, you're hot Ryan. Okay. You're pretty and you're some beautiful mix of people. I don't know what your background is. But

Ryan Taylor 56:32
I've just very tan I'm actually English.

Scott Benner 56:35
Oh, for certainly I thought your mom or dad was was black. That's it. You're just tan. See? How do you How did you get out in the sun?

Ryan Taylor 56:42
God, Oh, God. Now nowadays it is some birds, some birds, but it's more of a. I spent years in these hot countries. I was in Miami in Miami. And then obviously I'll be in the top places. I had a really good time. And then when I sort of made a decision, okay. That part of my life is over when you realize how quickly you lose that. I mean, it's hard and it's hard. So yeah, I do spend a lot of time with Sinbad it's something that I don't love doing. I know it's not half before Yeah, but

Scott Benner 57:10
I don't know how you got diabetes. Like everything else looks like Do you have any other autoimmune issues?

Ryan Taylor 57:17
Salah minute Yeah, I I've always struggled since either sepsis in 2021 Right before going on Geordie Shore. This is what did dampen the Geordie Shore experience when I stopped either a blood clot in my leg and sepsis at the same time, two weeks for getting on the show. So I was on crutches until the day they picked me up because I didn't tell them how bad it was. And yeah, massive surgery on my leg was absolutely out of it. The whole time was on the show that I was in no condition to really be on the show. And then after I've somehow you get this thing me and my friends advised and coffee reality TV shows as adrenaline dump after doing one that you do this really cool thing. And you go back to normal life and it's quite hard and I wasn't ready to so I thought you know what, one more summer in our beef, went out tried to party realized very quickly. I couldn't handle it because I would go out one day and sleep for nearly 48 hours and I was like why can I stay up massive bags into my eyes and stuff went and got came home got locked down. And I had very low cortisol. Basically I was in Addison's shock the whole time I was out there and barely injecting insulin went days without injecting the insulin was still going low. So that I was prescribed hydrocortisone. I've successfully weaned myself off though very recently, but course or something I have to pay a massive look at if I now don't get the right. It's crazy because I live this crazy lifestyle for seven years, not caring about sleep, not caring about rest recovery diet. And then now I feel everything. Like if I don't sleep for a couple of days, I'll notice some bugs in the nose and dry hands and it will be really long quarters or so I need to take it again. But um, I'm going to put my building a good enough routine that we're okay. So yeah, no other apart from that. We will

Scott Benner 59:06
do you take the medication or you said you wean yourself off of it.

Ryan Taylor 59:10
So I weigh myself off. I still I've got it all prescribed so I can go at any time. I always keep some on me just in case. I really don't want to be taken them sort of Graeca steroids for long periods of time. They're not good. And if needed, and like I said if it if I'm regimented on my lifestyle, it's there. And it's one of them that cortisol plays such a huge impact on your diabetes. I need to take a look at it because if you have low cortisol, you probably got low blood sugar. If you have high cortisol, you probably got high blood sugar. So I do take that into account now and that's part of why I could my friends aren't in Miami currently. So it's hitting that time of year spring break and it's not even nearly appearing to me because I know the damage it would do to me at this point

Scott Benner 59:52
Arden's my daughter. I'm sorry, do you I don't have diabetes. Ryan. My daughter does and yeah I got that. Yeah. And I'm just I got to the point where I was like, I don't know, I think I think this guy is just fulfilling something he said he was gonna do last year. It's so, but she sees a more integrative endocrinologist, like she just turned 18. So in the states here, there are pediatric endos. And they're done with her. Now they basically at her last visit, at the end, they go, Okay, well, we need to talk about like, you know, you get out of here, because we can't see you anymore. So there's a doctor that's been on a couple of times, talking about thyroid stuff, she's really brilliant and helps my helps my family with a lot of things. And we were, we get we talked her into seeing Arden for her diabetes, because she doesn't usually see people for diabetes. That's not the kind of Endocrinology she does, but I don't care this woman is, she's who she's who I want helping Arden. And cortisol is one of the things that every time you get a blood test with her she checks for, and understand, I bet you most endos don't do that.

Ryan Taylor 1:01:02
I'm gonna do obviously, this is something that someone messaged me the other day saying, like is that other factors, they told me how low carb they how many 1000s of steps are doing every single day. And I listed several things which could play a massive factor in losing weight, I said you shouldn't have to restrict your diet that much to lose weight. And iron is a big one. BT was a big one. Vitamin D is a very healthy almost have at the top of the reference range. And I said your biggest ones, your thyroid, and your thyroid is massively impacted by your cortisol, you can have even if you take thyroid medication, your thyroid levels can come back, okay. But that just means it's in your blood. It isn't actively put to work if there's too high levels or too low levels of cortisol in your body, which is one of the things I experienced with when I've had to first start taking that hydrocortisone I went deadly skinny before last year, which was scary for me because I've always managed to maintain my weight and I was eating a taller junk food and my cortisol was extremely low. And I was losing so much weight and then when they first put me on it, my FICO my FICO has slowed down massively. I know you won't believe this, but I was in some of the worst shape of my life in that December time. And we eventually got it balanced. But yeah, they know. Yeah, the whole man.

Scott Benner 1:02:19
Right? I'm more than believe it. I just made a note for myself. I have a doctor's appointment on Friday. I just got a bunch. So my daughter went off to college this year. And my son just graduated from college and got a job so I finally have some time to think about myself. I have I have trouble with anemia, like so. Oh, right. So my my iron right now you are talking to me. I am. I'm talking to you completely fueled on the excitement I have for what you're talking about. Because my ferritin is seven right now.

Ryan Taylor 1:02:52
Oh my God, that's crazy. Yeah. So obviously I was I was always right, I always was right at top of reference range for iron, the top. That's probably what I play so much part of being in good shape, too. When I was younger, that without even trying, I always hit them. And then it became an issue with I said when when when when my hormones went off and the cortisol started going off. Now it is that regular check on all of them because all of a sudden, it's up in the reference range in the space of two months became bombed the reference range on a few of them. And I was I'm taking the I mean the exact same foods roughly taking the exact same supplements and now all of a sudden, it to me it works synergistically. And one of them's after the other one stopped paying about so yeah, definitely other that's I get that I know I

Scott Benner 1:03:35
will trust me, one of the things I'm doing today is bothering a doctor about getting me on their schedule, I'm gonna get an infusion. Like, I'll just get a like,

Ryan Taylor 1:03:44
that's what you should. Yeah. When you as low as you are. That's what you like, if you took tablets now. It would take so long to bring bring you up. Yeah, you need that infusion. And then it's obviously you can maintain otherwise, but

Scott Benner 1:03:56
yeah, but the doctor that I saw, like, really, like gave me a battery. Like I went in. I said, Look, here's So Ryan, but between you and I that people listening, my biggest My biggest issue is that I don't eat in a way that should be reflective of my weight. And if that makes sense or not my activity, I move around. I mean, I'm old nah, but, uh, you know, it's just if you and I stood next to each other, and I said, Brian, how much do you think I weigh? You'd miss my weight by 40 to 50 pounds? Really? Yeah, you would be off by that much how I look versus what I actually why. And so I went into the doctor, I'm like, This isn't right. Like, I don't I don't eat or live in a way that should reflect this. So she tested my my thyroid. She tested my iron. She tested my testosterone like she she gave I had a I gave blood for a felt like 10 minutes when I went to the doctor, and I'm my follow up opponent Less than two days and we're gonna see what she's gonna do. So

Ryan Taylor 1:05:03
that's that's cool is very cool is what documents he has, I think would be interesting because so many people are in that situation like, they think, Oh, I've just got diabetes, but now you've got autoimmune conditions are so when they they're not taking into account which is what I'm trying to say so many room, there could be so many other things autoimmune wise which are affected because you have diabetes, it's not saying because you have diabetes, you've got all these things wrong here. But there's a better chance of it because you got diabetes. So I say to him, it's not as effective for the average population, it might be as simple as calories in versus calories out. If you if you're on a good diet, and you notice that you're not losing weight you've been active, then definitely take a look at these almost off because the worst thing is doctors don't even really point it out until it's a serious problem. Yeah, there's there's a reference range. And then, but that reference range, if you're at the bottom of it, that's sometimes very deficient when you're at the bottom of that. And they weren't even mentioned it until you're under the reference range, which is, I don't like that, to me. It's like you're there to prevent problems. And it's if you're leaving it too long, for some people, you might be causing yourself more work when they are firm issues down the line and the further medication and they actually will have

Scott Benner 1:06:12
and that mindset isn't it permeates medicine, like you know, a one said, Oh, don't worry, it's not, you know, you're not too bad. You know, yeah, you have this, that's not too bad of a number that's in the range, or thyroid is a huge one right? There. I

Ryan Taylor 1:06:27
referenced.

Scott Benner 1:06:29
Oh my god, there are people with TSH is of five and six who have every thyroid issue. And the doctor says to him, Well, you're in range, so we're not going to give you the medication. And

Ryan Taylor 1:06:39
if they if they put you on a form of T frailty for your TSH would be, you'd be gets limited to barely anything. So why is it okay to be about fine?

Scott Benner 1:06:50
Exactly. I trust me, I have episode upon episode where I'm just banging that drum over and over again, like if you're, if your TSH is over two, you need to find a thoughtful doctor, who will really can do this for you. Anyway, I think I don't know what I'm going to end up on. But you just said something that I wouldn't have thought to do that I'm going to do after I get answers. I'm going to take the this piece of paper I'm holding right here that I still happen to have that has all the blood work on it that they did. And I'm gonna sit down on the podcast and go over it with people so they can see what they looked at and what we found and what we're trying.

Ryan Taylor 1:07:25
Yes, I said that you'll be surprised how many people have the same issues as you're experiencing. And like I said, if you can point out slightly faster to them than they would have been some people. Whether it's a money issue or whatever, it's just, I'm gonna run myself into the ground and live as I'm fine. I'm just going to self medicate with prescription stuff until I until I absolutely crash, somebody would don't go and get their bloodwork done. So if you point out certain things you're experiencing, and then what your blood tests are often that's yeah, you could save someone Yeah, cuz

Scott Benner 1:07:57
no one knows what they asked for, you know, and, and, you know, I know your points just very strong, because I'm adopted. But my daughter has type one diabetes. And it wasn't and no matter how many people I get on this podcast, I'm like, so you know, how about in your family line, like what's in people like, Oh, my, my mom has celiac, or my brother in law has vitiligo or I don't know, like stuff like that. And I never, I always thought, well, I just don't know my history. But then I have some, it's interesting, you know what I mean, but then I have some of these issues. And because I think because I don't have diabetes, I don't see this is probably a psychological thing, because my kid has type one. I don't have type one. So therefore, I don't have medical things that deserve attention, if that makes sense. Yeah, 100%.

Ryan Taylor 1:08:49
But no one even knows what type one comes from. And like I said, you might have just been blessed enough to not get that but you still have the same genes that essentially will allow you to go deficient in the same hormones and the same the same blood markers that type one would go in so it is weird thing of like they people do or say that like it's not meant to be G it's not meant to be passed on by genes. But my brother was my stepfather was quite a cousin of mine did have it. She passed away when she was young. So yeah, it's it's weird. I do always speak to people and I do always ask her. Did you have any family members? Because it is quite intriguing. Like, it's crazy. They haven't looked down exactly. Is there a way it gets passed on or not?

Scott Benner 1:09:32
Well, I ask it to get people's minds turning like the people listening. I want them to think like oh, wow, this does run in my family or Yeah, we do. You know, there are four people in my extended family who run to the bathroom after we eat dinner. Like is that me? Is that celiac? Is that like, my stomach hurts? Could that be it? It's just my stomach hurt because I have type one and my thought and my pancreas isn't helping. You know with my digestion which by the way, hope happens to my daughter. My daughter has to take care Yeah, just an enzyme tablet when she eats. Yeah, just meat and stuff. Exactly. Yeah. Ryan, why? Where have you been all my life? Dammit.

Ryan Taylor 1:10:12
Yeah, the research about the research? I do. Yeah, I know a lot of people who I give it to my girlfriend as well she's always struggled with digestion obviously, being my partner she does eat a lot more probably meat and she used to cook it most likely does include it. So yeah, I've looked at again, I am what age was your daughter diagnosed to two. The one of the saddest stories I heard. But another thing that really motivated me to to do as much as I can in the diabetes space I was doing probably a lot of pilots, I guess they call in America but dry runs, we call them in the UK. So before reality show aired, they put a film a new reality show, they'll do a practice run of it. And they'll run it like it's real. But it'll be with it's typically actors or people who have been on reality TV before. So they've been asked to play out for the camera and stuff. And they do it just to see have they got the right camera angles in this location is the storyline of the show any good. I do a lot of them. And I did one that turns out to be a really good shot and really good. I didn't actually on the show. But about a year ago, and I remember, the first night everyone's in their room, having a good time mingling and talking about his castle getting paid to do this. We're living in a castle for a week or whatever. So we're all doing that I hit diabetes mentioned repeatedly. So I'll go over here, this guy has reached out to him, and I thought it'd be him. And he's talking about his daughter having it. And he said to me, he lists off the how bad it was her diagnosis said last year this way, was wetting the bed every single night throwing up every single night and was getting misdiagnosed for months. And I thought in my head, she's got to be my age, because that's the exact same thing that happened to me. I went down. I was 10 years old and I only weighed four stone. I'm not sure when I was in kilo, but it's looking at around 60 pounds. Yeah, at the age of 10. And I was weighing myself every night, throwing up most nights. And so I assumed I said I'll hold you thought I think he was gonna say my age. And he turned around he said, Oh, that was only a few weeks ago. She's three years old. And I couldn't believe how diabetes is so widely known now Hala people still having them saying terrific stories nearly dying. And I can't get diagnosed. Like to me if you've seen them certain signs on a kid and shows it's not enough education in the general population. Definitely not in the medical field. But yeah, I think it's crazy. Like the fact that just people need dying to get diagnosed and it was in what 2022? That's wild.

Scott Benner 1:12:40
Yeah, well, especially in the emergency room situation, you would expect doctors to know that. You know, when when when a doctor doesn't know that your TSH shouldn't be six. I don't know if they're going to know that peeing all the time. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It's it's hard to know.

Ryan Taylor 1:12:56
They should to make sure we weren't you started tests on comes in L? How hard? Is it? fingerprick. It shouldn't be one of those that honestly should be one of the most standard things whenever there's any of them. Was it the four P's The main symptom, or 40s? That makes sense. And the type one diabetes, if someone comes in with any of them should be standard, we have to do a blood test on it. And then, yeah, I'm never gonna have the chance to change your medical field. I'm not stupid enough to think I have that much power and influence. But I think this is why I love podcasts like this. I love Elon, he puts out information that could catch on, because he didn't have a clue about diabetes until his daughter got it. But he wishes you know, now to not put through the trauma she suffered for months leading up to it. So yeah, I have

Scott Benner 1:13:39
a couple things. First of all, you said four T's? What? What are their thirst?

Ryan Taylor 1:13:45
So first, tired.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:49
Toilet, toilet,

Ryan Taylor 1:13:51
toilet. That's the one you

Scott Benner 1:13:53
misspoke. And you said four peas. And I thought on a different podcast, I'd ask Ryan. What is I think I know one of them. So well, you know, I wouldn't say that. Don't Don't give up on the idea of really being able to impact a lot of people because like look at the look at the weird course you take to getting to me today, right? Like you're on a reality show and your and your, you know, your person's like, Here, go do podcasts about diabetes. And that was a year ago and now here and you and I are talking and also I am I don't put a ton of effort into making sure you're here. So you Yeah, you have to respond. You have to look at that email and go Oh, damn, I did say I was gonna be on a podcast next week. And and then and then be here for it which I really appreciate. Sincerely, yeah, knows.

Ryan Taylor 1:14:42
It's been great. I know. I know. I'm gonna that's why my goal is always to reach and most people have anyone in the diabetes thrilled. I just think I'm not I'm not medically trained. A lot of the stuff that I do is against doctors and how they prescribe and how they go about teaching Okay, so I'm never gonna get welcome into that industry like diabetes UK probably hate that. I come out and I say like your doctor is wrong about this, this and this. And all the talks that I do for my staff saying, like, I think you should listen to your doctor on half the stuff, because they're the manual that they read on diabetes is this many pages long when it should be this many. And they probably don't like that. But they also know that I probably give the realest advice to children. So I know I'm gonna reach a lot of people. And I just, I just think personally, you can only control what you can control and but yeah, your path to so many things as well. And I always think there's so many things in my life that I said, I when I was 14, I never thought I'd do reality TV. If you saw me at 14 I definitely wasn't someone who you think would be allowed to do anything like modeling reality TV, anything. And even podcasts that I do, I have my own sports forecast. Now I do a lot of I try and do like one interview chat or podcast, in different areas, sports relationships, party and traveling, I try to do one of them a week, my agent tries to get me through some of that. And I always tell her like, I was in speech therapy until I had no confidence one but I was also in speech therapy and up until the age of six years old. So I was sitting there while they're going to, to to serve just so I can say words. And the fact that I get to do stuff like this. That's cool to me, because I never thought I'd be a good talk. I know for their constant talk for sure. Well,

Scott Benner 1:16:17
you're sure you're absolutely terrific. I actually was going to ask you. And then you just said you're in speech therapy, which makes me want to ask you more. Do you Do you know your IQ? Has it ever been tested?

Ryan Taylor 1:16:30
I don't think it'd be very good. I just because I disagree. I'm very I've said this before, I'm obsessively interested in subject in certain matters. So if I and it can be something so small, and I'll have to be the most educated person on that random subject. And I'll spend hours in my free time just researching it and gathering knowledge on it listening to podcasts on it. But if it's something I don't care about, I'm useless. Like, I remember I worked in car sales at the age of 21. I got there. And for six months, I was stealing a living. And on my last day, they caught me and they gave me a test that I had on my first day. I don't remember the test on my first day. I scored worst on my last day when they fired me that I did on my first day,

Scott Benner 1:17:14
right? I don't care. Because you're, you're describing me. Like, yeah, if you think I know about, like nuclear fission or something like I don't, you know, I struggled to get through school, primary and secondary. And but the things that I that I think about? Well, I think people say it's the things you care about, but it's the things that kind of light my brain up that they're I can go on, you know, and and I'm telling you, I'm not lying, I would send my daughter to you, as an endocrinologist before some of the endocrinologist that we've met. Yeah,

Ryan Taylor 1:17:50
that's right. I think that so again, we go into that. That's where the education system fails. Yeah, I was. I wasn't booksmart at school. But if you put me in a creative subject, something like media, which is like journalism, ALR it designing something, I was very good. If I had to read about you will know, but Shakespeare is a very famous author in the UK in English literature. Oh, my God, I was awful. And that's where school fails you because you should play to your strengths, because you don't have to be good at every single thing. I wasn't amazing at maths. I wasn't good at numbers. But I just said like, if it's something I'm passionate about God, like, I'll be very passionate about it.

Scott Benner 1:18:35
Let me let me share this with you. I'm published. I am a published author, okay. I don't read I don't like reading.

Ryan Taylor 1:18:46
It's one of them that to me, I'm not like, I'm not saying I'm the busiest man in the world or anything. But I like I like to live quite routine after I can fit in as many things as I can in the day, like, we have to work we have to do some things after gym. So certainly I do which take up a large portion with this happy so routine, the routine. Problem is if I do, I sat there and read for an hour, I don't see that as a massive waste of time because I could I could listen to the audiobook version of it while doing some sort of exercise or something like, I'm a very efficient guy and readers never fit into my lifestyle.

Scott Benner 1:19:19
I found it since I've read a couple of great books that I've really enjoyed. But I just don't like to read. I'm not I'm not embarrassed. I used to. I was on a book tour once. And my publisher pulled me aside and said, Hey, let's stop telling people you don't read okay? And I said, I said why he goes well, because you wrote a book and it doesn't sound good. And I was like, Oh, okay. I said I thought it sounded like I thought it was like Hey, book and he doesn't even read.

Ryan Taylor 1:19:50
I think yeah, it's it's never done much for me like so. I won't be efficient, but I also I just I can't concentrate on words. I feel like I'd pay massively off people's like voices emotion, which I guess you wouldn't get an audio book. But it's probably why I like so many podcasts. And so I like hearing that if I'm going to ask me, like, made up stories up for a real life story. It's always fun what interests me. So I would have to be more like a biography, which I'd be interested in, but I still hear the voice behind it. I've definitely always connected better with the expression you can put in your voice. And I guess if you can see them as well, but yeah, breeding to me, it's just I've never been asked to it. And it's annoying because I try and be so there's so many you always look at are the millionaires morning routine. And I'm very much on the I go over five year don't care. It's Monday to Sunday, I'm about five. I always try and get Jim out of the way early. I'll try and just start my day at five. It's just something that I've managed to get into routine. I love doing it. But there's certain things I now try and add in when I can read it. It's always says I'll read nine to 12 and dine afternoon. For any period of time.

Scott Benner 1:20:57
Brian, let me tell you what, what the Google machine tells me whether or not it's actually true or not. But average IQ of a person with a stutter is 14 points higher than the national average. That's pretty crazy. I have your IQ in the 120s. That's my guess, really. I'm very good at picking people's IQs. People who knew me

Ryan Taylor 1:21:19
at school would massively laugh at that statement. I like I said, but I do think like I said, it's something. And we're talking about a subject that I'm very passionate about. And I put a lot of time into researching because to me, that's one of the most important things when you're giving advice to young people and stuff. Like, I got to tell you go and do this because I did it. And it's great. Like, if you do it and you're gonna die, I can't put that risk on myself and live for myself doing that I've had to be very educated on any my opinions on

Scott Benner 1:21:47
I appreciate that. I'm just telling you that you're not giving yourself enough credit. You're you're having multi level thoughts about things that are existing on different timelines, and you're keeping them all together and explaining them in a very simple way. And that that's not that listen, I barely got out of high school. Like, I'm not kidding you. But I barely got out of high school. Like when they gave me my diploma. I was like, huh, I pulled this off. We did it. I was like, no kidding. Alright, thanks. You sure. All right, I'll take it. But I like my kids, like my daughter's in college. And she's She sends me a text the other day and she goes, Did this report on this history topic. And I was like, right, and she goes, I got a 96 out of 100. And I said, Yeah, and she goes, I don't understand where I lost these four points that I thought you wanted. Yeah. And I'm like thinking, if I got a C, like, like, middling grade, I was like, I did it. I would give him a 30 percentage worried and be like, Oh, I'm doing terrific.

Ryan Taylor 1:22:56
Yeah, that was me in school as well. And then, but her mindset is sort of a mindset of about now that I'm not sure if she's very passionate about the the test she took. But there's certain things where I'm, I'm not my biggest critic in everything I do. And a lot of it. It's subjective, but when I'll do a professional restaurant, for example, it's totally subjective. Like people can think I was amazing. People think I was rubbish. I purely go on crowd noise because the crowd is loud. I did a good job I entertained. And but I I'll be obsessively over it, I will put the rest of the show into a program that tells me the different level of noise throughout the whole show. And I will see who gets the best reactions. Who gets the worst what moments that the best thing worse is the same a podcast if someone comes on our podcast or the comments, or one of our local football team, and he's funnier than me. Oh my god, I stay off for that. I used to call a bad joke. So I there's certain things that I ruthlessly hard on myself about but like I said, if it's that driver, make sure that she's okay, got that.

Scott Benner 1:24:00
Right. I'm just gonna say it again. I'm Danny DeVito. to your to your percenter. We're basically the same person. I did a TV show once where I was in front of a live audience like 500 people. And there's a moment when you can feel it. Like I've gotten I'm gonna say something in a second and they're gonna laugh and then I'm gonna move it in this direction and then this is gonna happen and then another person started speaking up it's a letdown for them and I'm not talking and very um, you can if you can see it anyway.

Ryan Taylor 1:24:35
I Yeah. I love I love it because it there's so much growth like people would think after doing that relatively Oh, this guy's got insane confidence. You can do anything. But I said the rest of the stuff came just after it was one of the first things that messaged me after like come in to help us build an audience for the show. At first time I went to ring God I thought I was confident talking I thought I could engage audience I thought I would know Oh, You'd be quiet when they're loud. So you don't want to get you don't want to basically when you watch the bag, the crowds booing over you talk and you kind of hear what you're saying. I've thought I'd have all these things down to a point and I watch my first show now cringe but you It's so good to see your progression in a certain subject because at the start I've got a heartbeat see be and I'll just be hoping no one's gonna say anything, like really bad. I think sort of what some fads to fansite agenda are who is AI for AI at this point, I was meant to be not a bad guy with regards to sort of play in the middle because I hadn't decided what they wanted me to be. They're going to base it off the crowd. So I got I got their reactions All right, but then some lads Snapchatting who I think I was trying to think my feet before it's a bad guy. I was like more relevant than you that's who I am. And then they all booed we got a situation we will offer written feedback like, just like in that second. I love that I have like a wet your brain to turn around. Because if not, some people can crumble under that sort of pressure. I'm having a live audience heckling. Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:26:03
I love speaking in front of people. I don't know what that says. Only but I enjoyed it very much. All right, Ryan, I have to let you go because I'm going to propose to you in a second and I'm gonna have to go to have to explain to my wife and I'm leaving her for a guy in his 20s in in London. So you just really I had such a just a lovely time speaking with you. This is terrific.

Ryan Taylor 1:26:24
No, it was so much fun. Yeah, so I'm not gonna lie when you said oh, we're just winging it. And then you didn't I expect you like oh, well, roughly talking about this will roughly talk about that. But we'll wait and get and let me just said that show headphones winging it. And I was I couldn't go off the cuff but I just thought I was gonna have a really boring chat. And this has been hilarious. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:26:41
no, I'm really good at this Ryan.

Ryan Taylor 1:26:47
would be if so it's okay. It was a bad conversation. Something's really went wrong.

Scott Benner 1:26:52
I've never like had I've never made a podcast and thought Oh, nobody can hear that. That'll be terrible. I I have one question before I let you go really early on like an hour and a half ago you said as happy as Larry. Yeah, what does that mean?

Ryan Taylor 1:27:10
It's a it's a weird British saying that it's just no I'm not sure if there's I don't know there's an actual Lowry This is somewhere in my IQ mate might fail. I don't know if there's actual Larry this this seems based off but it's like Hafeez Lowery's like just someone who's having the best time almost a bit like delusional to like anything that's going wrong in his life. He's just always having a good time.

Scott Benner 1:27:30
So it's, it looks like it's, I'm looking it up here. Larry, the best known character in a world of similes. The expression He instigates is most likely to be of Australian or New Zealand origin. Earliest printed reference known from the writer gl mirdif Dating 1875

Ryan Taylor 1:27:51
Oh God, I know it's been it's been I've always heard this a lot. I was happy as Ireland this happened. So as well and with like someone who's almost just everything's going great for that person. Alone. She is usually used because everything was so good. And then something happened.

Scott Benner 1:28:07
So popular Australian writer Tom Collins in 1903, in something called barrier of truth wrote, now that the adventure was drawing to an end, I found a peace of mind that all the old fogies on the river couldn't disturb. I was as happy as Larry is Larry. You go Alright, well, nothing Ryan. That's what your episodes called. I love it.

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