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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, and welcome to episode 610. Love the Juicebox Podcast a

little over a year ago, the gentleman came on the show to talk about his child's diagnosis. That man had a wife. That person is terror, and she's here today to expand on their story. So if you want to hear the beginning part you have to go to Episode 409 For Mathias. But if you're all caught up, settle in and get started, because this is Tara, and she's the mother of a child with type one diabetes. While you're listening, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan, or becoming bold with insulin. If you'd like to support the podcast and support people living with type one diabetes, all you have to do is be a US citizen who is either the parent of a child with type one or type one themselves. Go to T one D exchange.org. Forward slash choose box fill out a quick survey that can be done from your phone while you're on the sofa. I mean, on the can even I mean like while you're on the toilet, T one D exchange.org forward slash juicebox you'll be supporting people with type one diabetes and the Juicebox Podcast when you complete that survey

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Tara Caudill 2:05
My name is Tara Caudill. I'm the wife of Chad coddle who did episode 409 and the mother of Matthias coddle is our type one diabetic four year old.

Scott Benner 2:14
And 409 was called for Mathias is that right? That is right. I see. I thought that that or somebody said, I don't know exactly how it happened anymore. I do remember the conversation being great. And then saying one day I would like to talk to your wife and I guess this is you and here you are. Here I am. Yeah. Is it? Is it was it? What's my question? How was it listening to your husband talk about the diabetes without you having input into what was being said.

Tara Caudill 2:48
It was exciting. Because I was I was very proud of him. Not like a like pat him on the back. Oh, good boy kind of way. But uh, I was happy that he was able to voice his side of it, especially because he took he took the full brunt of it. I was gone when all of it went down. So it was nice that he was able to share his story, especially being you know, him being a dad, you know, and he's, he's the best dad that I could ever asked to be the mother of my kids, especially when you know, crap hit the fan.

Scott Benner 3:20
He's the best that I could ever asked to be the mother of my kids. That makes sense. Did you mean to say that, or did it just come out? Naturally?

Tara Caudill 3:28
It kind of just came out that way. Yeah. But you know what I meant?

Scott Benner 3:31
No, I actually I think you meant that. And I sometimes I think my wife used to speak to me speak about me like that, too. So well. I mean, he's a good mom. Like, all right. Okay. So, so this is coming back to me a little bit. You were people are like, couldn't you have just figured out what but you know, I don't know what I'm talking about before we start recording. So you were in the military, right? Yes. And your son was diagnosed, there was some like, there was some drop, give me give me your side of the diagnosis.

Tara Caudill 4:04
Sure. So I was actually getting ready to graduate basic training. This would have been in February of 2019. And I wasn't, I wasn't supposed to be able to call home this night. But it ended up being Valentine's Day night, we were able to call home. And the drill sergeants were like, you're only supposed to ask like these three questions. We were only supposed to ask like, are you coming? Do you know how to get there? Do you know what time to be there? And then we were basically supposed to hang up. But of course, we always tried to squeeze in conversation into a 62nd phone call. And so when I called Chad Valentine's Day, nice. I was like, Hey, baby, you don't have Valentine's Day. I get the call, like surprised. And he goes, Yeah, yeah. How much time do you have? And I said why not long. I just have to ask these three questions. And he goes, Yeah, okay, I got that. How much time do you have? And I was like, What's going on? You're scaring me. And he said, he's gonna be okay. But we're in the ER right now in the bias was just diagnosed type one diabetic. Wow. And it was so out of left field, I just remember my jaw, like hit the floor. I was what? I cannot have heard you correctly. Did you? Did you really just say that? And he said, Yeah, I'm in the ER with him right now. He's like, your grandma is coming up from Florida. And your mom and dad are already on the road. They're coming down from Kentucky, we were living in Georgia at the time. And we're, we're going to be fine. He's, we're going to be here for a few days. And he said, as long as everything goes, well here, we should still be at your family day in your graduation. And it was in like, less than a week. I think he had like, three or four days before they had to hit the road to make a trip to Fort Jackson, to get there for my family day. But uh, I learned on family day that he he wasn't going to tell me at first. And to give context to that, because it was so close to my graduation, he the only way he was going to be able to contact me was through Red Cross message. And he was terrified that if he sent a Red Cross message, and that I received it, that they would pull me out of training. And that was just going to delay my graduation, which you know, overall, I would have, I would have been away from home longer. And so I I did tell him after the fact I was like, I completely understand that. You know, I understand why you went about it the way you did if it had been like, right after I had left for basic and was gone for, you know, the three months or what have you. And then he didn't tell me that whole time. Yeah, words definitely would have would have been spoken.

Scott Benner 7:01
But he was making a decision because it would have kept you there longer in this moment. That's interesting. Hey, I want to digress for half a second for people who say they miss hearing Basal snore on the podcast. I think we just heard terrorists dog drink about a gallon of water during the story. She told him I right about that time. Yeah, it might have been. No, don't be sorry. That's why you don't hear Basal snoring anymore, because I moved away from where the dogs are I but I still get notes like I miss Basal snoring. I'm like, I don't miss editing out all the noise. So sorry, but But um, okay, so this is kind of fascinating, in that I don't have any military knowledge. So you're in basic training, it sounds like for three months, there's a graduation date, you have very little contact with the outside world or your family. And so your husband has to make the decision. Like if I tell her that this is happening, like there's no special circumstances where he just calls a number and says, Hey, you guys got my wife over there in basic training. And my kid has type one diabetes now like, there's no it doesn't turn into a more human interaction. It stays very military and by the rules no matter what's going on. And then if you need to have that conversation, then you have to break away from what you're doing, which elongates your time there. I understand that right?

Tara Caudill 8:21
Yeah, pretty much. I had a friend whose grandfather died when we were in basic together. And the only way she found out was through Red Cross message.

Scott Benner 8:32
And then, and that's just like a note, like, it's, it makes it feel like a telegram when you say it like that, but it just, it just comes written to you or somebody. How does that work? If that

Tara Caudill 8:42
happens, um, so yeah, they they contact through Red Cross message. I've never actually had to do it before. But um, there was a drill sergeant who pulled who pulled her aside, and I went with her as her battle buddy, because you can't be alone during basic training. So I went with her as her battle buddy to go talk with the drill sergeant. And I kind of stepped back because I realized what was happening and they handed her a sheet of paper. And, you know, they said, you know, we're sorry for your loss. You know, if you if you want to try and call home, they afforded her that opportunity, and she was able to call home.

Scott Benner 9:15
Wow. Okay, so the, the time that your husband imagines works out and they're able to come to your graduation, yes, thank God. So you see your son with type one diabetes for the first time at that moment. I'm wondering what that was like, because it's got to be an emotional day. Aside from that.

Tara Caudill 9:37
I don't think I don't think at first it really hit me. I could tell that he didn't feel very well. He wasn't his he was coming back to life, essentially. But uh, he was just eating nonstop. So whenever we went to go get something to eat for that family day. He was just constantly, you know, scuffing stuff down and Now, you know, he was Matthias was trying to eat or getting ready to eat. And it was long before we found like Juicebox Podcast or anything like that. So my husband's you know, pulling out the syringes taken out the the meter, you know, to prick his finger and everything like that. And my mom is type one diabetic. She's been type one since she was for around four or five. So it was something that I was used to seeing. But now it's my own kid. Was the complete in that it was completely different at that point. Yeah, I just, I kind of just had to sit there and be like, What? What is happening? Do

Scott Benner 10:39
you? Did you know how? I mean? I know you've had seen it with your mom the whole time. But did you honestly know anything about it?

Tara Caudill 10:48
I knew enough to help her out if she needed it. But in terms of her day to day care. I mean, she had been doing it for like two three decades at that point. So I only intervened when, when it was necessary. Basically.

Scott Benner 11:02
Did your mom have any real emergencies while you were growing up?

Tara Caudill 11:05
When I was 12, I think I was 12. So this would have been mid 2000s. There was one night my dad's been in rock and roll bands since before I was born. And he was gone one night playing a gig. And so whenever he would be gone, play a gig that night, I would stay in the room with my mom. And it just so happened this one particular night, I'll never forget it. I watched the clock strikes 12 at midnight. And then I felt the bed start shaking. And her I looked over at her and her arm was shaking, and she couldn't really talk. She wasn't having it wasn't like a full blown seizure. But her body was definitely like, Yo, you, you need to do something. And so thankfully, we had talked about it before. And so I ran over to her nightstand and I got her. I remember if something soft that she could eat or I don't think it was juice in her nightstand or anything. But uh, I helped her get that down and helped her check her sugar and called 911. And then in like, I don't know, 2030 minutes an ambulance showed up just to check her and she was okay.

Scott Benner 12:17
I had a hard time listening to that story because you said that you were 12 in the mid 2000s. And it made me feel really old.

Tara Caudill 12:25
I'm sorry. I'm so confused. I

Scott Benner 12:27
was like, I'm like, No way. No one's young, then like as like a god. Tara, how old are you?

Tara Caudill 12:33
I'm 28 Oh, my God. Terrible.

Scott Benner 12:37
Terrible for me. It's good for you. So you've got this experience with your mom, does that come into your head? Once you realize your son has type one?

Tara Caudill 12:46
It does. Because at that point, that's all that I had to go on. Right?

Scott Benner 12:50
So did so was that your expectation? Or? I mean, what could you even i This is a weird question. But could you even enjoy that day? Or is that day last?

Tara Caudill 13:02
Out? No, we were still very much able to enjoy it. Matthias was he was smiling at some point. I was able to just kind of sit with him and hold him. We didn't really walk around the whole a whole lot of places. We just kind of sat there and enjoyed enjoyed finally being together, you know, after it was like 10 weeks. So I was finally able to kind of feel like a mom again, which I hadn't felt like a mom in a long time at that point. And then so we had our family day, and then the next day it was graduation. And because of some scheduling mishaps with the battalion that I was assigned to, we got one extra day, which never ever happened. But their their loss was my game. So I obviously took the extra day. Hey, um, remind

Scott Benner 13:52
Chad Chad is the military as well. Right? Was Yes. Yeah, he still is yes. And are you as well? Yes. Okay, so how does that work? Like for scheduling? And like, are you not home for stretches of time? Is he not home for stretches of time.

Tara Caudill 14:10
So he's active duty, and I am in the reserve. So we're we're in the middle of pcse, which means permanent change of station. We actually just got to Texas this week. So I finished up my annual training with my unit in Georgia, and then kind of just, you know, waved at everybody and said, you know, I'll see you later. And so I'm in the middle of trying to transfer units right now. And that way I can stay local to the unit just because it's easier for the kids.

Scott Benner 14:40
Because if next time you have to go back you have to go back to Georgia. Yes. And Chad So, Chad's in Texas, he's, he's active in Texas.

Tara Caudill 14:52
Mm hmm. Yeah, he just finishes his like job as a recruiter and the army norm He kind of made him do it. He didn't really want to. But so now he's back here. And once his leave is over here and like the next week or so, he'll be going back to his regular, his regular army job as a cab scout.

Unknown Speaker 15:14
What is that?

Tara Caudill 15:16
Cavalry scout? They're like the eyes and the ears of the commander on the battlefield.

Scott Benner 15:20
Okay. Yeah. Project manager.

Tara Caudill 15:25
That's one way to look at it.

Scott Benner 15:27
It's an odd way to look at it. But it's the first thing that I thought of. And what did you What was your specialty? When, what? What do you do?

Tara Caudill 15:35
So I'm an intel analyst.

Scott Benner 15:38
Interesting. Does that help with the diabetes at all?

Tara Caudill 15:44
Um, it can now that it's another way that I've learned to think critically about the information that I have. So I can I'm getting better at being able to go okay, what is happening here? And then what are the changes that need to occur so that this low or this high doesn't happen again,

Scott Benner 16:05
kind of Gotcha. Are you having luck with that? Are you having more long stretches of stability with blood sugar's?

Tara Caudill 16:13
I think we're in the middle of his Basal needing to be changed, because I had to bump it up the other night, and it worked fantastic. And I was like, Okay, I might be on to something. And then last night, it was causing him to try and go low a little bit, so we'll just have to tinker with it some more until we get it stable again.

Scott Benner 16:32
Okay. Has your mom because your mom was diagnosed in a different era of diabetes, obviously, but Has she had any insight that's been valuable? Or has it been the opposite? And what you're learning about Matthias is helping your mom or do you guys not talk about it?

Tara Caudill 16:50
Oh, we talk about it all the time. Okay. All the time. Especially when he was, you know, first diagnosed because I wasn't home. Like I saw them for the three days. And then I left Fort Jackson, South Carolina, and then I went to Fort

Scott Benner 17:09
tear you broke up

she'll be back. She's a little bit of a connection show. If I had a bugle I could play Reveley while we were waiting, but no, I'll try with my hands. Tara

that's all I remember. I don't know if that was right. Alright, she's gonna bounce back in a second. Hello. You left for Jackson?

Tara Caudill 17:43
Yes. So I left for Jackson. My bad.

Scott Benner 17:46
No, don't worry about it. I am assuming that they moved you into the middle of like the Texas desert or something like that. Or you're like out west or where are you at?

Tara Caudill 17:55
Now we're in a clean right outside Fort Hood.

Scott Benner 17:58
Okay. Well, they need better internet there.

Tara Caudill 18:01
They do. Yes, I agree. I just I just moved my phone to the opposite side of the house. So hopefully that'll help.

Scott Benner 18:07
Oh, no kidding. Okay, go. Well, I have my fingers crossed. But you were saying you had just left for Jackson, which made me think of Janet Jackson song where she calls herself Miss Jackson. And then you disappeared.

Tara Caudill 18:20
Yeah, so I left for Jackson and then went to Arizona. And I was there from, I think the end of February until the end of June. And then I finally came home the end of June of 2019. And that's when I really started to be able to dive, dive into the diocese care and my mom's my mom's perspective and her experience and everything with that. She had already told Chad so much. But even in a it where I got a little bit more freedom, I could call home every night if I wanted that there's just so much time that you know we had to do for learning our job and whatnot that it didn't really happen all that often. So when I when I was finally able to go home, I called my mom probably every day, or at least texted her and was like okay, I'm doing this just is like another witness while Chad was gone at work. Oh, hey, I'm gonna do I'm gonna do this. So

Scott Benner 19:24
if anybody has any reasons why these two shouldn't get married speak now for like, if anybody has a thought I want to hear it right this second. So you felt very uncertain for a while.

Tara Caudill 19:34
For probably the first few days at least? Yeah. Just where this was. This wasn't you know, helping my mom who could tell me yes or no, this was helping my two year old who could barely say hello. You know, so when Chad left for work, the first day after I got back home he he looked at me and he was like so I'm not trying to sound like I don't trust you. But please call me every time you're going to Bolus every time you're going to feed him. That way I can be like, yes, no, heck no. What are you doing? So on and so forth. And I was he, I was like, that's perfectly fine, because I don't want him to go into the hospital again. And especially, it'd be my fault.

Scott Benner 20:23
Your fault. Interesting. How long was Chad, the sole caregiver of the diabetes before you were home?

Tara Caudill 20:34
So February, March, April, May, June, but for four months, okay, give or take.

Scott Benner 20:42
Okay, yeah. So by then, it must have been incredibly difficult for him to just hand the thighs over to a different person, like, forget that was you just the two different person once he probably started feeling like I understand this a little bit. And I know how hard it was to figure out this much. And now she's gonna start over. And then the specter of what could go wrong just lives in your head. That said, that's interesting. You guys didn't actually get to do it at the same time. But looking back, do you think that was a benefit? Or do you think it slowed down your progress?

Tara Caudill 21:18
I think it ended up being a long term benefit, because it forced me to have to be able to eventually do this on my own.

Scott Benner 21:26
Okay. And you got you got the benefit of what he had figured out already. So you weren't starting at zero? You started a little bit in the On the plus side. But does what he says jive with how you think or do you have to remaster it for yourself she's gone again and that was such a good question.

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I don't want to forget the QUESTION All right. What I said was you guys should try talking off the top of your head like this for an hour it's not easy did hearing his thing make it easier? And what happens when not doing the bugle find your young kids. You wonder it's not happening. I'm just talking to myself because you're not ever gonna hear us

don't wake up didn't Tintin. Tintin. Tintin? That's the second part of it. I know this from Mash God, you know, man, I'm leaving the sun. Hey, Scott. Hey, get some tinfoil wrapped around your head.

Tara Caudill 24:58
Right. I think I I think what I'm gonna do, just to see if this will make it easier is I'm going to use my phone as a hotspot because I should still have zoom on my laptop, okay? And our hotspot right and laptop with my phone and try and jump on there and hopefully it won't, it won't keep disconnecting because we have T Mobile, and T Mobile is apparently not super good in this area.

Scott Benner 25:22
Perfect for you. So, right, um, do you didn't need to jump off and jump back on?

Tara Caudill 25:28
I'll see if I can sign in on here. Okay. And then

Scott Benner 25:33
I'd such a good question. Just read. I'm like just all I'm doing is sitting here trying to remember my question.

Tara Caudill 25:39
Okay. I'll stay quiet. No, no, no, no,

Scott Benner 25:42
I've already. I've already played Reveley on my hand bugle twice. So nice. As much as I can remember from Mash.

Tara Caudill 25:49
Oh, I used to watch mash sometimes.

Scott Benner 25:51
Yeah, you're young, you wouldn't enjoy it. I love the mash.

Tara Caudill 25:55
I just remember that radio was the only original character radar. Or radar doesn't radio. But he's

Scott Benner 26:02
not the only original character. Oh, you mean the only real actor from the movie? Actor? Yes. Yes.

Tara Caudill 26:07
Yeah. All right, let me see. Pull up my email here. Chris. My emails taking forever. Just box,

Scott Benner 26:16
click this link you're needing to my mom just texted me. How's the podcast? Not great. I'm gonna admit you, but we're gonna get some weird sound stuff. You should jump off on the phone now.

Tara Caudill 26:44
All right, what about now?

Scott Benner 26:46
Well, let's talk for a second to find out. Alrighty. Let me uh, let me ask my question again. We'll see where that goes. Okay, so I was wondering if Chad's experiences were helpful for you in the beginning, because sort of like a launch spot. But but then I was more interested in whether his stuff one to one translated to you, or if you had to kind of hear what he was saying, and then re engineer it so that it worked for your brain.

Tara Caudill 27:21
I definitely had to do some relearning just from growing up with my mom as a type one. One because now I was the caregiver. Or one of the caregivers. And with my mom, I wasn't I was, you know, I was there to help her if she needed it. But most of the time she didn't. So when it came to some of the advice that my mom would give, it wasn't that she was wrong. It was just That's how she had always done it. And she's a grown woman, not a, you know, a two year old. So there were things that we had to, you know, figure out, Okay, what if we take her advice, but just like re engineer it? Kind of to like use your words. So that it would so that it would work for Matthias especially when he was still MDI.

Scott Benner 28:09
Okay, so he it's interesting. So your husband has no background in diabetes at all. He at least knows your mom had it? And has it understands your way. Is Chad, like in a normal situation where all three of you are together? If this happened? Who would this have fallen to?

Tara Caudill 28:33
I think it would have been fairly split between the both of us that's that's how it is pretty much now.

Scott Benner 28:40
So you think even in that moment, you guys would have split the duties up? It wouldn't have been like here, this is more you or more him?

Tara Caudill 28:48
Yeah, I think it would have it would have still been 5050 as much as possible.

Scott Benner 28:51
Okay, cool. So you guys do everything like that.

Tara Caudill 28:57
With me everything with like life, the type one No, just like I think when I think when we recognize, hey, someone is more up to speed in this area, we kind of, we kind of let the other person teach us, you know, or, or vice versa. And then when it's time for the other person to step up to the plate, we're like, alright, you know, go out there and do your thing. And then

Scott Benner 29:21
you guys have a good relationship like this, the army help you with that, that idea of working in a team.

Tara Caudill 29:28
More so now because a lot of a lot of the ways that he talks, some of the just the lingo and just the way that his mind works now. He's been in for 10 years at this point. So now that now that I've gone through basic and the it and I've just been with my unit for a couple years now. There's conversations that we're able to have that flow more easily just because we are both in the military now.

Scott Benner 29:53
Yeah, I imagine you guys planning on having other children

Tara Caudill 29:59
so When Chad did his episode, I was getting ready to have our second born.

Scott Benner 30:06
Oh, baby. How old is the baby now?

Tara Caudill 30:09
He is six months old.

Scott Benner 30:10
Oh, good for you. It's exciting, or is it? A lot of work? And you're like, Oh my God?

Tara Caudill 30:17
Oh, no, it's it's definitely exciting. It is a lot of work. I mean, I've never had two kids before. So

Scott Benner 30:22
yeah, are you? Do you have a level of concern about your newest for type one? Or how does that strike you?

Tara Caudill 30:32
We really don't, I mean, we're aware of it. But it's, we're not plagued by the paranoia of it. And we're doing our best to keep it that way. When we found out that I was pregnant, we talked about doing the testing to try and figure out like, what, like, what chances he would have of developing it. And then we kind of just let the conversation go and just kind of enjoyed, you know, getting ready to have a second baby. And then after he was born, we talked about it again, and we we just kind of determined we're, you know, we're more aware of like the symptoms and kind of what to look for. So we weren't going to, we weren't going to what could be just wasting time, just waiting, you know, to end up having to take him to the ER. And that kind of came, that was one area where my mom was really able to help. Because when I was born, you know, it was pretty rare for a type one diabetic to have a healthy pregnancy, let alone the baby end up not having any complications or anything like that. So when I was born, and then as I started growing up, my mom would take me to the pediatrician. And she would ask, you know, what are the chances of, of terror developing type one. And my pediatrician always told her, there's a test that you can do to find out, but unless you unless you really, really want to know, she might never ever develop it, they said that there was probably like less than a 4% chance that I would ever develop it. So my doctor's advice to my mom was just enjoyed the time because if you do the test, and you spend all that time wondering, you're, you're going to be 70 And your daughter is going to be 50. And you're going to be on your deathbed going man, I didn't get to enjoy any of the childhood because I was just waiting for the tragedy, quote, unquote. And I'm almost 30 And I've, I've never in no way developed

Scott Benner 32:42
it. Right. So she just was able to take that advice and, and live that way. And you're gonna do the same thing. Cool. Oh, I listen. I think there's, there's a couple of different ways to think about it. And I feel like all of them are very valid. And that what you just described is one way that I hear people talk about it. So I think that's perfect. I was just wondering your perspective on it. That's a that's something so you guys have a young family, you've just really paid relocated to Texas. Do you think you're gonna get to stay in Texas? Or do you think you're gonna have to bounce again?

Tara Caudill 33:14
We'll have to bounce again. But we'll be in Texas for at least a few years. Okay.

Scott Benner 33:18
That's pretty cool. Is that just standard military life? That's never gonna change?

Tara Caudill 33:27
Uh, yeah, pretty much.

Scott Benner 33:30
And so. Okay, so Chad's active, so he might have to move around a lot, which makes you have to get find your way into the reserves wherever he lands. And are you in military housing? Or do you own your own house? How does that work?

Tara Caudill 33:48
We actually just bought our first house we closed on it this week. And you're

Scott Benner 33:51
in it right now.

Tara Caudill 33:55
Yeah, we're just waiting for our household goods. So we're we're still working with the air mattress situation and and all that good stuff.

Scott Benner 34:04
Is Matthias having fun. Is it like sleeping over for a while?

Tara Caudill 34:08
Yeah, he seems to be enjoying himself. We actually just got him his first actual like, big boy bed not toddler themed or anything so. So he's not sleeping in his little monkey sleeping bag anymore.

Scott Benner 34:21
What's he about? Like five or six now?

Tara Caudill 34:24
He's four. Now four.

Scott Benner 34:25
Wow. Why did time feel like it move faster for me then? Like I was just thinking about? I guess it was only 2020 when Chad was on. I see. I think I think ahead so much about the podcast in my mind. It's 2022 already. So I'm like adding two years to his age and thinking like he's gonna be five or six. Right? So he's four. So how's he doing? Like, how is how is diabetes going?

Tara Caudill 34:52
Ah, it it's going pretty well. He had his last endo appointment in Atlanta. It was As to it was last Friday. And his a one C I think it was 5.5, I think is what Chad told me. That's so cool. With like, I think like 80 to 90% time and range somewhere around there.

Scott Benner 35:16
I liked it. It's so much in the fives that you're like, I don't know, it's like a five and a half. Mr. Chad took him to his appointment. You were not with him was that? Does that kind of normal? Does just one of you do it? Do not usually both go

Tara Caudill 35:31
on normally, because the couple of times that I've had to take him Chad would be working at his recruiting station. And then this past time Chad had to take him because it was my last day of annual training with my unit. So I had to go there.

Scott Benner 35:43
Okay, so whoever's available goes, I Yeah, thinking I don't think Kelly's been to like, maybe three appointments ever. Like it just doesn't work that way for us. Like she's usually working and, and I'm doing stuff like that. So that's interesting. Like, you guys can just easily switch off and back and forth. So does he come home? And like, I guess not right, like things are going well, but it's not like he comes home and gives you the report. I guess he just didn't like, Go, is it kind of like that? Yeah,

Tara Caudill 36:13
pretty much. I mean, if if there's, there's always like the paperwork that the end knows will give, you know, at the end of the appointment. And so I might look over the paperwork, and you know, make sure that whatever prescriptions need to be renewed. We're on there and whatnot. But before we moved, we actually were pretty fortunate. And we got a buttload of pods and DEX columns, and we got a handful of, you know, new vials of insulin and stuff. So, so we were set for when we were getting ready to hit the road.

Scott Benner 36:44
I'm plus, no matter how good Chad is this, he's still a boy. So you have to double check on him. Because, right? I mean, we do we

Tara Caudill 36:51
know he, he's very much. So I cannot brag on Chad enough. I really can't. Whenever I tell people about our, you know, our little experience with masseuses diagnosis, I have to remind people if you'd like I was gone. You know, Chad really had to step up to the plate and make it work and he did in more ways than than I could have ever imagined. And so then when they came for my family day, right after with ISIS diagnosis, I could not hug him and hold him and just tell him enough I'm thankful that he is with irises dad and not some some other man who whether it be due to fear, or just a lack of concern would not have handled it as as well and continues to handle it as well as Chad does.

Scott Benner 37:42
I remember being really impressed when I was talking with him. And even your your recollection of it makes that more so for me. So that sounds very sweet. But you could kill me like six different ways. Right? How are they taught? You?

Tara Caudill 37:55
Know, that's not really my job.

Scott Benner 37:58
They don't make you understand that a little bit. Yeah,

Tara Caudill 38:01
I understand it. But I'm not. I'm not like boots on the ground. That's not That's not my

Scott Benner 38:06
alright, but I feel like if I ran it, you you would punch me in the face and I'd fall over? Is this true or no? Just like think you'd run away and be like, I'm trying to analyze data. Could someone stop this guy from running it? Throwing my clipboard at you I've analyzed the situation and someone with a gun better get over here. Right?

Tara Caudill 38:31
No, like real talk. Like if it's if the fight is getting bad enough to where I have to pull out my rifle, then we're losing. Now not because, you know, not because, you know, I don't even know how to describe it. But that's that's just not my I'm not outside the wire

Scott Benner 38:49
when the people have to go find their gun. And it's under something that those are not the people you want. And

Tara Caudill 38:57
exactly everyone else has died.

Scott Benner 39:00
Under the bar. Hold on a second. Can everybody wait? I don't remember where I put it. Yeah, I have to save this thing I'm working on I want to lose all this work. Right. Now. That's the military really is just like a big business, right? People just do different things. And there's different sections and people who don't know one thing about the other side of something else. Yeah, I mean, it makes sense. Just that you know, in your mind you're like, it's it's hard to imagine for somebody who's never been involved in it.

Tara Caudill 39:29
In the movies, everyone, everyone in the movies is infantry. And that's just not true. I mean, we're all taught, you know, basic combat training, but

Scott Benner 39:37
Right. Gotcha. Maybe you could get out of a scuffle on a 711 Okay, better than me. Yeah. Yeah, I could do that. I could do. Yeah, I don't know. That's kind of there's something great about just understanding how to protect yourself a little bit. That is a it's interesting to me. Do you think that little Going forward, I know this is tough, you're such a young family, but Mathias can't join the military right? Now, do you think that's gonna be an issue? One day?

Tara Caudill 40:12
I have thought about it. He has definitely pulled out like his little Nerf guns and be like, Mom, I'm a soldier like you and daddy, and it like, warms my heart. And then you know, you kind of have that moment where you're like, but you can't really be one. But he's four, just kind of, yeah, you just kind of let him run with it. I mean, we definitely don't want to be the parents who go, you know, you have type one, like, you can't do this, like we let him. We let them do stuff like every other four year old and we just try to manage it so that he can do all of those things. And if we have to call him over to give him a tab or something, it's two seconds out of his play time. And then he just goes right back over.

Scott Benner 40:51
I imagine there's a time when he'll have better understanding that you'll that you'll say it to him differently. But I have to agree, I don't know that trying to explain to a four year old that you can't serve in the military, because the diabetes is is a valuable use of anybody's time or effort. Yeah, cuz he's not going to take it correctly. And then he's going to start wondering what else he can't do. And it just happens that he picked the one thing that he can't do like to ask you. I mean, you don't want to give him the feeling. There's so many other things because I can't think of anything else really. You know, even the being a pilot thing seems to be going the right way.

Tara Caudill 41:28
We have told him that. As he went through a big plane phase, we live near an airport in Georgia. And every day is like mama has a play. And I'm like you want to be a pilot. But you go ahead and you be a pilot. He's like, Okay, I'll be a pilot.

Scott Benner 41:42
So great. When they're little, you could pretty much get them to say you're doing thing. You want to be a pilot was

Tara Caudill 41:48
in? He wasn't. We got him enrolled into like a taekwondo class last October. And so he did taekwondo at this at this studio. Not too far from our house up until we moved. Was he enjoying it? Oh, yeah, he loved it, he was actually able to be accelerated so that he could get his tiny Tiger black belt before we moved. Oh,

Scott Benner 42:14
that's cool. tinies Hydra black belt, probably the name of the episode. That's fantastic. Amazing. So he's just out there rolling around with other four year olds, and they're like working on moves and trying to understand like the real basic stuff. That's amazing. Yeah. How was that on his blood sugar? Oh,

Tara Caudill 42:35
it was it was pretty well, we definitely tried to do our best to monitor when he first got there, just because we didn't know exactly how the class was going to work. But uh, you know, there would be times it was only for 30 minutes. So I mean, we weren't able to see any super long term effects, because he would be running for an hour or anything like that. But especially if there were days where they did the obstacle course that they had set up for more than 1015 minutes, you could sometimes start to see, okay, we got to, we got to pull back or push forward on the Basal just kind of whatever, especially with him being so small.

Scott Benner 43:14
He has little, how much does he weigh?

Tara Caudill 43:17
He's around 40. I think 40 pounds now.

Scott Benner 43:21
Oh, I remember. My kids being small like that. It's so nice. It's hard to to look, I'm starting to get to that age where it's like, pretty obvious. I can't have kids. You don't I mean, like, just because of my age. And I don't I don't want to be 75 If someone's like, you know, assuming I can make it to 75. I don't want to be 75. It's somebody like high school graduation. It's sad. Like you think like, oh, like I never thought we were going to have more kids. And yet now, knowing that it really can't happen or won't happen is it makes you think back to all this stuff. It's interesting to hear you talk about do you think he'll keep doing the taekwondo who you find we look for a dojo in Texas.

Tara Caudill 44:02
Yeah, he said he wants to keep doing it. So I'm actually trying to get into jujitsu once we get settled down. And, you know, like, redo our budget. And so if he doesn't want to do taekwondo, you know, he has told me he wants to try jujitsu. Not that he knows what the differences are. But uh, they have kid classes at the gym that I was looking at. So if he wants to try that he can do that. He said he wanted to do a dance class at one point, and I was like, you could but we've already paid for taekwondo. So let's just keep doing that. Okay,

Scott Benner 44:32
let's finish something up first, and then we'll start Yeah, thanks. Oh, wait, do you see I was just telling. I was just yesterday on the phone, ordering training equipment that my son needs. And the guy and I'm looking at the price I'm like, oh my god, like I'm like getting ready to give the guy the credit card. And I just said to him, he's a younger guy. And I was like, Look, you're gonna have kids one day and they're gonna want to play baseball, maybe and Just remember, if that happens that 20 years later, you're still going to be involved in buying stuff for baseball, standing on fields getting weird tans, not going on vacation, because that's when baseball is played. I was like, that's a big step. I was like when your kid asks for baseball, like really make sure you mean to say yes. Because it's like a lifelong if you keep playing. It's a it's a lifelong, you know, commitment. I like the idea about jujitsu like you just like skip a class and go on vacation and come back and do it again. That sounds that sounds enticing to me. I'm starting to think if I could go back in time, I'd be like, what about this? You know, like, Would you like to look over here instead? I didn't realize when I was young that baseball gets played when everyone's on vacation. So if you play baseball, you don't go on vacation? Like little summers playing baseball. Yeah, you know what I mean? You're just like, wow, and plus my arms get really tan. And then my shoulders are white. I look silly when I take my shirt off. So anyway, well, you guys have a really, I mean, for as crazy as your launch into this was, now's going pretty smoothly. So what is it you're doing that's, that's working. So on a five, five for a four year olds pretty impressive.

Tara Caudill 46:21
Having your podcast in your resources has definitely been the biggest help Chad introduced it to me when I was in AI, T, back in 2019. And so and then he got Messiah set up on the Dexcom. And so he introduced me to like the share app and everything with that. But uh, I was gone. And in class so often for learning my job that I didn't really get to watch his sugar throughout the day. And so I was more. It was more just kind of Chad learning stuff at home and implementing it, you know, like, the same day or shortly after, and then telling me, like, Hey, I learned about this today, I'll never forget when he told me about Pre-Bolus thing. It rocked my world really how it rocked my world. Because with my mom Pre-Bolus thing was never a thing. It was just it wasn't like a bad word or anything. It was just, it wasn't a concept. Yeah. And so then when Chad told me, he was like, hey, you know, like, I heard this podcast and this guy talks about Pre-Bolus. And I was like, What in the world? What is that? He said, You give the insulin before they eat, and you try to time it so that when the insulin starts working, it kind of like fights the carbs in the food. And I was like, That's genius. It's like, why is this not a thing? Like, why don't they teach you that coming out of the hospital? He's like, Well, he's like, I kind of get why they don't do it. But it's definitely more useful than waiting for him to go high. And they go, Oh, okay, now he needs this much. And then and then just missing it all together. Yeah. So then Pre-Bolus He was definitely the biggest help. And we got him on the Omnipod dash, like the week I got home from it. So that was my first appointment that I went to and actually funny story. Jenny Smith was the one who taught us and trained us for the Omni pod.

Scott Benner 48:24
He used integrated for that.

Tara Caudill 48:27
I had no idea what it was at the time. She was just the one who was at a children's hospital of Atlanta. And we walked in for our appointment to get him set up on the pod. And she's like, hi, you know, I'm, I'm Jenny Smith. I'm going to be training you for the Omni pod today. And then it was probably a week or two later. I guess Jenny was on one of your episodes. And Chad was like, I think this is the same Jenny who helped us with Don.

Scott Benner 48:52
I have to tell you like what it's very likely not Jenny doesn't live in Atlanta. Reality Yeah, you might have a different Jenny Smith. Is there another Jenny Smith out there that works in diabetes? Please contact me. Super interesting episode. Yeah, Jenny lives in Wisconsin.

Tara Caudill 49:11
I thought maybe she had just like traveled for something and was in the area or some I

Scott Benner 49:15
don't know. Tiny woman. Very happy. Jenny was in it. Yeah, I'm gonna ask her if she was in Atlanta doing something. And that was, that would be it would

Tara Caudill 49:25
have been. It would have been the summer of 2019 All right, I can July she's

Scott Benner 49:30
gonna laugh she laughs every time I asked her something so she'll laugh. And then she'll be either telling me like that was me or no, that was not me. And I will let you know.

Tara Caudill 49:38
There's gonna be more intriguing if it wasn't her because I'm gonna be like, Oh my gosh, she was that

Scott Benner 49:43
it's another Jenny. And she did she worked for the hospital or for the for Omnipod

Tara Caudill 49:51
I'm really not sure that was the only time that we ever met her. Yeah, every every other time we went there. It was either his regular and no or one of the like.

Scott Benner 50:00
All right, so I'm going to tell you, it's likely not her because she doesn't work for an institution. And she doesn't work from the pod. So Gotcha. If that is fascinating, the other Jenny Smith, I swear it was a Jimmy Smith, we might have knocked off the title of the episode and come up with another one. Interesting. Although

Tara Caudill 50:19
I remember she she was also on the Omni pod because Matthias was trying to mess with her PDM and we're like, buddy, like, No, dude, don't do that. You're gonna mess it up. And she's like, Ah, he can't hurt it. And I was like, because at first I thought it was just like a demo Omnipod that she had and then it and then I realized, no, it was actually her pump. And I was like, okay,

Scott Benner 50:37
alright, so I'm now googling because I'm fascinated. Was she? Does she have dark hair? She did. Yeah, I don't. It's so that's definitely not Jenny. Jenny has lighter hair. But I'm looking at a LinkedIn profile. Jenny Smith, clinical services manager, diabetes nurse educator, Georgia, clinical service manager for insolate starting in 2019. insulet. Makes Omni pod. Okay, Jenny, if you want to be on the podcast, and you ever hear this, you can come on because now I want to talk to you about this.

Tara Caudill 51:12
This is like Jenny inception. What is happening?

Scott Benner 51:17
Are you just a you're not just over there trying to name the episode at this point, are you? I'm not know. Because Jenny Inception is tight. That's gonna be that one I wrote down. You knocked off the little tiger blackbelt blend. But anyway, now I'm just interested in the power of the podcast. I'm not now I'm interested. If I hear from Jenny Smith, who works for Omni pod. I want to find out if it reaches her or not. Isn't that fascinating? Okay. Yeah. And this kind of be a common name No, Jennifer might be. I mean, Jennifer was pretty

Tara Caudill 51:51
common for me growing up and then Smith, it's just a common last name all together.

Scott Benner 51:55
Yeah, I can't wait to tell Jenny about this. She's gonna be she's gonna be just, like, enthralled with this idea. So your suggest Pre-Bolus thing was a big deal to you? Very much so and not something anyone else had talked to you about? Okay. And now moving forward. I mean, a five, five indicates a really good grasp, or you're having a lot of lows. And you're not telling me but I don't think that's the case. So now, do you have a firm grasp of what you're doing?

Tara Caudill 52:27
I like to think so. Yeah. I

Scott Benner 52:29
mean, you have to if you're five, five. I mean, he's not eating like sawdust or something. Right? Like he's eating. You're not feeding them. Just like, you know, here eat this. It'll fill your belly. It's like real lazy eating like a fairly like American. I mean, you're in Texas, right? Like you probably eat. Like you probably kill things with your hands and then cook it on a grill and stuff like that. Like you've been in Texas, five seconds. You're like, I don't know what they do here.

Tara Caudill 52:55
We were here once before Chad. Chad's actually been stationed here before, but I only lived here with him for two months. And then we PCs to Hawaii where Matthias was actually born.

Scott Benner 53:05
That sounds better. Not that Texas. Sounds bad. But Hawaii sounds great. Yeah, okay. So I mean, but he's eating a fairly American diet, I imagine.

Tara Caudill 53:16
Oh, yeah, we do try to keep it more healthy. Like, instead of just shoving glucose tabs down his throat and figured out we could give him a handful of grapes, like however many. And it essentially worked the same way. So that way, he wasn't getting district sugar. He was also getting some nutrition. So try to sneak it in when we can.

Scott Benner 53:35
Right. I heard somewhere recently that that grapes hit pretty hard on the glycaemic their glycemic loads pretty hard. Where that might have been anecdotal. But that makes sense to me that it would work for a low, and if he can eat them, then cool. You know? Yeah, I agree better than a than a tablet. But I mean, seriously. So you have like stability overnight at a lower number, I'd imagine right?

Tara Caudill 54:02
Yeah, with the exception of I think his Basal were just in that funky time where it might need to be adjusted again, for a while it was at about a quarter unit throughout the night. And that seemed not I'd say about nine times out of 10. That seemed to work unless we just missed, you know, some protein or fat from dinner. And then he had to fight that off forever.

Scott Benner 54:27
But I'm saying like, generally speaking, you see the bill. I'm just guessing, do you because I'm maybe I'm wrong. But do you see stability overnight more in the 80s and 90s than not? Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, I mean, because five, five, the way you get to a five five is pretty is pretty common. You have to have, excuse me overnight stability. That's more in the 80s. You have to not see a lot of spikes at meal time. And you have to be in a situation where you're not correcting a lot of lows. Food. Does that describe your life? Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Wow, you got all that from the podcast? Yeah. Cool. That's a really amazing. I don't even know.

Tara Caudill 55:14
Chad also found the sugar surfing book a long time ago. Okay. And so and so he read that and that really helped him good. And then we actually learned what I really learned the other day, the doctor who wrote that book. He's actually just over in temple, which is like, 45 minutes away from here. So we're definitely going to try and get him as the diocese and No, but

Scott Benner 55:36
that's cool. Yeah, he's in Texas. He was on the show, like at the very beginning of the show. I remember that. Yeah. i It's been like, it's got to be seven years ago. But I always enjoy telling the story that like he was only on because listeners asked for him. Like I didn't I had never heard of him before. Not to say that. That's a distinction, but I just didn't know who he was. And a couple of listeners that can you get this guy, he wrote this book. And he comes on. And he's talking and I remember being 1015 minutes of the episode, and just like blurting out to him, like, you do what I do, you just call it something like I was it struck me in that I was like, oh my god, like, he knows this too. I was like, This is so cool. Get you know, so really interesting, and, and, by all accounts, a lovely man, so that if you could get him, I think that that'd be really great. I mean, he you'd probably he'd walk in, you'd walk in there, and he'd be like, you guys know what you're doing? And that'd be that. But no, I mean, now that you have some proximity to him, that'd be really cool. Excellent. Well, I'm just thrilled you guys are doing well. Like your story's incredibly uncommon in the way it happened. But it's fascinating and in how quickly you guys pull it all together. You know, like, really? It's, it's, it's laudable. Do you ever, like sit back and take a minute to be proud of yourselves?

Tara Caudill 56:59
We have done that before. Yeah. I feel like if I get wrapped up in how well things go, then the next minute it just, it gets out of hand. Because some days you have you have like a handful of days where you almost start to feel like yeah, I really, I really got this down like, I am the PDM you know, I am the insulin and then the next day, it just kicks you in the butt and you're like, I should not I should have just let it be. I should just wave that it is a web by should have never made a big fuss about it.

Scott Benner 57:31
You feel like the world is seeing you celebrate that. And karma is like hold on. We'll just We'll fix this up for you. Just watch this. People say that. People say all the time, like the minute I take a screen capture and I share something with somebody it goes wrong. And I'm sure that's just you know, Murphy's law. But uh, you know, I don't imagine that you celebrating what's going on is, is actually leading to another by the way if anyone thinks that I think you should talk to a therapist, I believe there's there's a that's a mental illness. So you, you can't control the world with your thoughts if you could be much taller and more handsome, and younger. And there'd be a lot that would change. If I could just change the world with my thoughts. I think. That's cool. You guys are just like a great like, young family success story. It's really, really, really great to hear. Is there anything we didn't talk about that you were hoping we would?

Tara Caudill 58:29
Oh, I wanted to let you know that when our second son was born. We named him Scott.

Scott Benner 58:35
Get out of here. Are you serious? You're lying. No,

Tara Caudill 58:38
his name is Nate Gabriel.

Scott Benner 58:40
I knew you were lying. I knew it and I let myself be excited. Anyway. That was mean, Tara

Tara Caudill 58:47
told me to do it. blame him. Jewelry. I said this. I said it as a joke last night and he was like, No, you got to do it. I love it. You tell him

Scott Benner 58:55
I said I told him I said that was hard as you said and I was like she's kidding. And then I'm like What if she's not kidding and I don't act really happy about this.

Tara Caudill 59:13
Jen says hi by the way. Oh

Scott Benner 59:14
yeah. Thanks a lot. That's hilarious. I'm so sorry. I couldn't help it. You did such a good job selling it Are you good liar? Generally? No, not at all. You really leaned into You're very good. Excellent. Oh, I'm smiling so much. That's so funny. Good. Oh, that's fantastic. You guys plan that out? I appreciate that. I do no problem. We're here for us. God I can see it that you guys are just there as my little support system I appreciate. I I can't tell you how amazed and thrilled I am for how well things are going for you guys and I know your your start was rocky but you guys really are are doing a great job. Just remember tell Chad I said kid's going to start growing and he's going to get hormones and things are going to happen and he just has to you guys just have to stay, like just flexible and just move with it meet the need, and you'll be okay. You know, I will definitely pass that on. Yeah, but you got some years before that kid starts popping up and really, I think putting on the bulk wait. I don't think he's gonna think he's gonna be like a little killer when he's seven. So I think you'll be okay for a little while. But that's really something and congratulations on the Baby. Baby. Gabriel. Just, I knew even with like, there's no way you were gonna go to something not traditional, like you guys have like, I mean, those are fairly biblical names that you've chosen, right? Yeah, you weren't gonna go to Scott. I know.

Tara Caudill 1:00:48
Damn it. I do have a cousin named Scott.

Scott Benner 1:00:52
One little bit I should have just let it be. Care about your cousin at all? What do you think of that? diabetes, then tell him I really like that.

Tara Caudill 1:01:06
He doesn't, but my mom is the middle child of three. And she has an older sister and a younger brother. And neither one of them have ever developed it. She's the only one on my side of the family that we have ever found that has it?

Scott Benner 1:01:19
I know. We're never going to know the answer to this empirically on the podcast, but and I don't wish this on you. But I wonder if it's gonna skip generations in your family? Like, I wonder if you have no idea. Yeah, like, I wonder if you'll be the grandmother of a type one one day or something like that. Not that I hope that happens. I'm just I, you know, sometimes it's you wish you had more time on the planet. So you could step back and see how things really, you know what I mean? How they transpire? I feel like that, but maybe other people don't.

Tara Caudill 1:01:49
Remember, I remember Chad told me when they were in the diabetes class in the hospital. Like the very first thing he told Chad was this is not your fault. You did not, you know, pump him full of sugar and kill his pancreas. They were like this, chances are this was going to happen. We just unfortunately didn't know. And another thing they told him was at that time, at least, I don't know, with all the research that's been coming out that in the past couple of years, that they believed that for a person to be able to develop Type One is that the gene had to come from both parents.

Scott Benner 1:02:28
Really, but that that's the case.

Tara Caudill 1:02:32
That's what are understood at that time. Anyway, when he was first diagnosed, that's what our understanding of it was. So before I heard that I was I was still at Fort Jackson. And then when we found out and I had, like, my, I had my breakdown moment, I thought that I gave it to him. And I was I was devastated. I was like, you know, of course hindsight, there's nothing that I could have done anyway, or that we could have done. Like, once the dial started being turned, I mean, he was developing it. But at that moment, I was like, Oh, my God, like, what did I do? Well, they thankfully didn't stay like in that in that dark place for very long and was able to be picked back up by like our friends and family and whatnot.

Scott Benner 1:03:17
Yeah, that just makes me super sad because you were disconnected by distance. Like, I mean, I get that you would feel that way but didn't feel that way and not be able to see him or hold him or talk to him or anything. Like had to add to the despair, I would imagine.

Tara Caudill 1:03:32
Yeah, it was not fun.

Scott Benner 1:03:36
Wow. Oh, you guys, your story's terrific. I appreciate you fighting through the technical stuff. And I actually enjoyed the birds. You're the you're now the third episode with birds in the background. I have to tell you, I find it relaxing. So nice. There they are. I can't wait to tell Jenny about this.

Tara Caudill 1:03:58
Please like message me when you talk to her?

Scott Benner 1:04:00
Yeah, I'm gonna tell her that you named your baby after No. No, do it. That way she'd be so happy if somebody did that. It would break her heart if I told her no. Oh, yeah. Okay, don't but I can't wait to tell her the rest of this. And I genuinely hope that this other Jenny Smith comes on the podcast at some point. Yeah, I really know I want that very badly. All the sudden that's the most important thing in my life. Give them both on at the same time. Well, I seriously so look, this is not a like a flex, it would be a weird flex if it was but I could send an email and find Jenny Smith and get her on the podcast but I don't want to do that. Like I want to see like I want to wait like this go up months from now and like sometime in 2022 Like I just get this email and it's like Hi, I'm Jenny Smith. I'm gonna be like yes, but I feel like like we like one some long game so All right. Well, I will let you go. I'm assuming you have a home to build and and a life to put together there in Texas and I want to wish you a lot of luck. Seriously,

Tara Caudill 1:04:59
I appreciate you taking the time for all this Scott I know that you got a lot going on and I know this is kind of like your gig but I I really do appreciate being able to share share my side of it since Chad got to share his

Scott Benner 1:05:14
Yeah, no I thought it was important I remember back when he was talking thinking that I would want to hear from what it was like to be on the opposite side of that phone call. So yeah, I'm thrilled you did it via Don't thank me. Like, you know, people like you don't come on the there's no podcast, so I really appreciate it. I hope you have a great day.

Tara Caudill 1:05:34
You too, Scott. Thank you.

Scott Benner 1:05:39
A huge thank you to one of today's sponsors, G voc glucagon, find out more about Chivo Kaipa pen at G folk glucagon.com Ford slash juicebox. You spell that? G VOKEGL. You see ag o n.com. Forward slash juicebox. And I'd like to of course, thank Tara for coming on the show and giving us her side of that diagnosis story. Thanks so much for listening. I'll be back soon with another episode of bugling with Scott with his little mouth bugle. That would not be a very good podcast.

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