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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello, everybody. Welcome to Episode 341 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by touched by type one, and the Contour Next One blood glucose meter. You can find out more at touched by type on.org. And Contour Next one.com.

Today's show is with Daria. She's a young woman living with Type One Diabetes, who's a far away from home going to college. Oh, I mean University. Now you'll figure it out. Daria is a big fan of the show. She's heard every episode and I know that right now she is giggling somewhere listening to her name being said at the beginning of an episode, but she gave an incredible interview that is very informative, and entertaining. And I thought a lot of fun. While you're listening, you need to remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, please always consult a physician before making changes to your health care plan. or becoming bold with insulin. I'd also like you to remember that juice box docs.com exists. So if you have a great diabetes practitioner, Doctor, endocrinologist, nurse practitioner, a place where you go where they really get you a place that you would want other people who listen to this podcast and know about go to juice box docs.com and send in that information. It's a beautiful, ever growing list of doctors who get what you want.

Daria 1:47
Hi, I'm Daria, I've been a type one diabetic for 15 years. I a student in the UK. And I'm also a personal trainer.

Scott Benner 1:58
Alright, students in Wait, wait, let me get this right in university.

Daria 2:04
Yes, exactly. I am in university and I'm in my placement year. So we do two years of studying then we go on to like a work year basically. So when you're working, and then you come back and do your last year and your dissertation.

Scott Benner 2:19
Interesting. So the last year includes the dissertation.

Unknown Speaker 2:23
Yes, it does. Unfortunately.

Scott Benner 2:27
Yeah, you're gonna have to do it eventually. So at least it's at the end. Yeah. What's your, um, your focus?

Daria 2:35
focus in terms of what I study? Yeah. So I do management with marketing. I was hoping it would be mostly marketing, but it's mostly management.

Yeah. So that's it really business kind of degree.

Scott Benner 2:49
How does it How did it shift from what you were hoping it would be? You had an idea that that the that the sessions at the school would go one way, and they've kind of gone the other way? Or you've moved in that direction?

Daria 2:59
No, it's basically more or less a set degree. So we have only a few modules that we choose. And it was just the way it's structured. There's not a lot of marketing in the in the whole kind of syllabus.

Unknown Speaker 3:15
Yeah, I gotcha.

Scott Benner 3:16
Not a lot of marketing in that marketing.

Daria 3:18
Well, yeah, but you know, you study like on your own and do things on your own. So

Scott Benner 3:22
still learn a lot. I would say to that your third year, probably, you can sort of choose the course of what you want to go out into the world with.

Unknown Speaker 3:30
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. That's excellent.

Scott Benner 3:32
Okay. So, because I got all caught up in my excitement about remembering to call it university and college, I forget how long you've had diabetes and how old you are. So could you tell me real quick?

Daria 3:44
Yeah, I'm 20. Now, I was diagnosed, diagnosed at four, four. So it's been like 1516 years now. Okay.

Scott Benner 3:52
And when you were diagnosed, were you still in Russia?

Daria 3:56
Um, I was in Russia. But when I got diagnosed, my parents got all panicky, and we went to Finland, because apparently Finland has the best type one diabetic care well, or had at the time. Yeah, so we went,

Scott Benner 4:10
Yeah, go ahead. Well, dairy. I was gonna say, that's really, that's good for the people in America who are like, I can't believe I have to drive an hour to a good endocrinologist, your parents left Russia and went to Finland to find good care.

Daria 4:24
Yeah, I think it was a good decision, because Russia is. Yeah, and it's not the best and it's good medical care. But you will, you will always trust it. So a lot of people who can do it, they go either to Germany for their different medical conditions or whatever. or elsewhere.

Scott Benner 4:44
Russia is good. A lot of things. I mean, they're running Facebook. Great. So you know, it's going

Daria 4:50
Yeah, well, they've got their own weapon. It's called telegram. If you know that one. No kidding. And it's apparently Yeah, apparently they can't track you from it.

Scott Benner 4:59
Oh, Are you saying we're being tracked right now? Because I feel so I'm

Unknown Speaker 5:03
always being tracked.

Scott Benner 5:06
I swear, I don't want anyone to know what I'm doing. And at the same time, if they knew what I was doing, I feel like they'd be so incredibly bored. they'd stop paying attention.

Daria 5:14
Well, I don't I don't think so. Scott, you're not doing yourself enough, just as you do.

Scott Benner 5:20
I don't know how you didn't see me this morning doing the dishes and watering plants.

Unknown Speaker 5:24
So how do you know I haven't?

Scott Benner 5:27
True enough. True enough. So there you go. So you were born in Are you a Russian citizen? Or how does that work when you move?

Daria 5:34
I am a Russian citizen. But I was born in the UK. I lived here for four years, then my parents moved because of work back to Russia. So I did move with them when I was a when I was I think

I lied to you. Actually. I was diagnosed when I was five. And

yeah, I moved when I was four. That's what happened.

Scott Benner 5:58
You'll see that I I stopped myself from calling the age of your diagnosis, fake news. I just stopped myself right there. And we were gonna stick out. So you were diagnosed? You were diagnosed at five? Yeah, okay. So your parents born in Russia moved to the UK for work. You're born in the UK move back to Russia for work, you get diagnosed, you guys go to Finland, you're not living in Finland.

Daria 6:18
But we didn't go. We went there for like a week or two just to get things sorted. Kind of gotcha. So yeah, it was just literally, I, I got admitted into hospital there. And we stayed there sort of to learn the whole

what diabetes was basically excellent.

Scott Benner 6:35
Your accent is, is brilliantly blended between the two places that you've lived. It's really interesting. Really,

Daria 6:41
it's very interesting, because English don't hear Russian in it at all. They hear American or Canadian. And the Americans hear Russian and English.

Scott Benner 6:51
Yeah, I hear I hear the I hear the end of the word feels Russian to me. But a lot of your phrasing is, is from the UK. So okay, I'm enjoying myself. Alright. So here you are five years old. I'm just going to in my head, you know, build a picture of you freezing to death. And in the tundra of Russia. I'm sure you look right in the middle of the city, but that's okay. For my for my purposes, you live on the side of a slight embankment, in a lean to. And in your blue, I

Unknown Speaker 7:22
do actually live in a side of an embankment.

Scott Benner 7:26
How do you know him? You know how I know that right?

Daria 7:28
Well, of course, it's Facebook,

Scott Benner 7:30
through Facebook, I can see. Anyway, so you're growing up growing up in Russia with diabetes, I'm dying to know like, what is it like you hear people talking about on the podcast and everyone? Dario has a real insight. She's heard every episode of the podcast. So I'm interested to see if there's a first of all, why you don't why you have so much free time and when you're in university. And secondly, if you see any huge differences or similarities between SORT OF THE AMERICAN STORIES you hear and your your experience,

Daria 8:00
oh, well, in terms of how you get medication, guys, it's insane. Because in UK, I you probably know this from people you've spoken to in UK, we are on the national Harris health care system. So we get all our medications free. I've got the continuous flash glucose monitor the libri thing, and I get it free as well, which is absolutely amazing. I get my insulin for free. And it's just, I'm super grateful for it. There's nothing I'm more grateful for than that. But in Russia, we had to buy it all. So we don't even need a prescription there really to buy it. So we can just sort of go to a drug store and get insulin needles and yeah, there you go. Okay, use it as you please. So you

Scott Benner 8:55
realize that from growing up watching American television, my imagination was that three guys all named Sergei pulled up in a dark sedan and your parents traded them toilet paper for insulin or something you're telling it? None of it went like that at all. Is that what you're saying? Nope. Yeah, see, I think we may misunderstand the rest of the world here in America. Anyway. I got you. That's pretty So cash buy in Russia? No, no prescription needed. You just walk in and say, Hey, I need

Unknown Speaker 9:22
insulin.

Daria 9:23
Yeah, and you can still do that. So I literally, I think, okay, remember when we tried to schedule this cool. I went back to Russia for that weekend. Yes. And I was running out of my Navara pad back then. I'm on CS right now. And we just went to the drugstore and got it. That was fine. Yeah,

Scott Benner 9:43
that's amazing. So what's your What is your what's your expectations for when you finish up with school? Do you feel like you'll stay in the UK or do you have an idea of where you want to go?

Daria 9:53
Well, I've always wanted to do a gap year so year will I just go and travel travel I've got two places where I really want to goes Australia and Canada. So I'm hoping to do that for at least a few months after I finish uni. But then I'm kind of planning to go and do Personal Training, really, because I really enjoy that. And I actually specialize in type one diabetic personal training. Nice. So yeah, I work. I do online programming and yeah,

Scott Benner 10:26
that's cool. I did you know that Australia and Canada are at the moment fighting for the number two position for downloads for the podcast. It's America obviously has those. But Australia in Canada, always going back and forth. At the moment, Australia has a slight edge. So well, Canadians really should pick it up and listen to some old

Daria 10:44
Oh, go one, definitely promote the podcast there for you. You're rolling 100%? I'll hand out flyers and stuff. So don't worry about that.

Scott Benner 10:53
So let's kind of dig into your your growing up with the diabetes. did you how did you find it to be how involved with your parents? You know, what kind of technology did you have? What was that whole process like through like, when do you start thinking of yourself in your memory as having diabetes?

Daria 11:12
Um, well, I remember I was really well controlled, always from the very start. So I had all my meals measured, like I never ate school meals, nothing like that I had a special lady that took care of me during the day because my parents are investment bankers. So they basically, I didn't see them really. And I don't even know when my first memory of diabetes is to be honest. I just remember my, oh, well, my good memory is my grandmother used to do my long acting insulin for me. And I remember her doing my short acting instead of long acting. And it happened like several times. And that probably is like the most

the biggest highlight of my childhood.

Scott Benner 12:04
It's panicky, right? And you will see you remember people like running around yelling, you know, she's got to eat a bunch of food, or is that what you did? After she you

Daria 12:11
know what it was? It was actually no, it was just, it was panicky, but then it kind of came down and was like, oh, I've got so much food to eat now. It's how wonderful You know, when you're like six years old, you did really care. You're just very happy that you've got a ton of chocolate to eat now,

Scott Benner 12:29
please. Six years old. There are times when I'll look at art. And I'll be like, Hey, you know, we messed up. So pretty much anything you want in the kitchen right now is yours and her face lights up and our eyes get very big. And she's like, ooh, let me think about it. I don't want to waste this moment.

Daria 12:45
How old is Arjun now? 15. Oh, yes, girl now

Scott Benner 12:51
chugging along. So everything is going going really well. I'm trying to imagine also what what would get a woman your grandmother's age, I'm assuming who grew up in Russia? Like what would actually make her upset? She's probably like, Listen, this is nothing. And we'll persevere this like we persevere these winners and everything's gonna be fine. And that's that I swear to you, I am having the hardest time not making ham fisted like references about almost like, everything you say. And I realize it's because I just watched so much American television and whenever like a bad guy would come in in the 80s. Like, you know what I mean? Like he he was always like slightly of rush does that bother you? Like when you watch old television? Do you see that? and think like, why are we the bad guys? I need you guys to head over to touched by type one.org to see what their mission is find out about their programs, learn what they're doing to build awareness, and even get involved in helping people living with Type One Diabetes. I first became aware of touched by type one back when they were dancing for diabetes. And I attended they're touched by type one event. Of course now, they've rebranded to touched by type one, I wonder what the event will be called. Something that started such a long time ago, in one little girl's mind, if I remember the story correctly in her driveway, trying to raise money for people with type one diabetes, became dancing for diabetes. And now today it is touched by type one.org. You have to see what they're doing. I make a point every year, no matter what's going on to travel to their event, and speak with the people who are supporting them locally in Florida. But you can support them worldwide. Touch by type one has a wonderful program where they send information now to newly diagnosed people with help from people like you. So go check out their website, learn about the conference that I'm sure I'll be at their awareness campaigns, their local things that they have going on their international stuff that's happening and that beautiful dance program. take a couple of minutes to learn more about touched by type I'd like to announce how you about the Contour Next One blood glucose meter. This is the meter that Arden has been using for about a year now maybe a little longer. But it is, in fact, the best blood glucose meter she has ever used. And Arden has had diabetes, since she was two, she'll be 16 in just a month. That's a big statement. There's a long time and a lot of meters. But none of them have stacked up to the Contour. Next One. And I'm not just saying that because they're a sponsor, they are a sponsor, because I'm able to say that don't think they were the only meter company trying to buy an ad on the Juicebox Podcast, okay, I went with the one that I trust. And that I know that I can tell you simply off the top of my head about I don't need copy, right, like, I need to tell you to go to Contour Next one.com to see if you're eligible for a free meter. But beyond that, they don't make me say anything in this ad, I can do whatever I want. And I'm gonna keep repeating what I think is most important, the Contour Next One meter is accurate. It's accurate, accurate, accurate, I don't just mean to, you know, the wall, I mean to what your blood sugar is not another meter, it matches reality. That's the information you need when you're making decisions. And we all know test strips are a commodity. So we don't want to waste them. You know how many times you've touched a blood drop, it's a little too small and it doesn't register. But with the Contour Next One, you can just squeeze out a little more blood and do it again, you still get an accurate reading, invaluable. Beyond that great bright light for nighttime, easy to read display. Not too big, not too small, fits in my hand nicely. I'm not always fumbling with it, you know what I mean? It just it works. It's a meter that does what it's exactly supposed to do. And that's why I love it. It's easy for Arden to carry. That's it Contour Next one.com just a little button at the top, you'll be able to find out if you're eligible for a free meter. And if you're not, ask your doctor to prescribe one for you. There's no reason for you to be walking around with an old busted up meter. Whose accuracy you're not even sure of when you could have Contour Next One. Contour Next one.com There are also links to all the advertisers in the show notes of your podcast player and at Juicebox podcast.com. Check them out today. Get yourself a great meter support touched by type one. You can do it get gone. Use the links

does that bother you? Like when you watch old television? Do you see that think like why are we the bad guys?

Daria 17:46
It just makes it really funny. It's just very funny, especially the how they do the Russian accents. And if they have any Russian words in there, you can straightaway tell that they're not Russian actors. Or have never speaking Russian spoken Russian story. That's my Russian coming out. See?

Scott Benner 18:03
Yeah, just guys from Orange County and Ventura trying to put on a Russian accent that they only heard on television when they were growing up probably. That's great.

Daria 18:12
Um, I was gonna say, you know, I just grew up with my diabetes being something that wouldn't bother me. So my parents kind of always told me you can still do everything. Diabetes is just another thing you sort of need to take care of and it shouldn't stop you ever in your life. And I kind of grew up grew up with it. And I still think that way

Scott Benner 18:34
Yeah, I think it's excellent. It really did your parents I mean, you said they were investment bankers and again I imagined you making like quotes air quotes when you say that's completely unfair. I'm sure your parents do investment but but it was like it was like a scene out of the sopranos I imagined you over there going my parents are quote, investment bankers but it because

Daria 18:56
yeah, you know, they actually worked in American banks, quite a big chunk of their careers. So maybe their actual investment bankers, but you know, you're hoping you don't really know.

Scott Benner 19:08
Yeah, that's great. That's what they say. And I didn't

Unknown Speaker 19:12
know we didn't speak about business in our family. So yeah, I wouldn't know.

Scott Benner 19:20
Was there ever like a shovel you couldn't decide where it came from in the trunk of the car or anything like that or No, nothing like that.

Daria 19:26
Oh, we just keep one there. Like all the time. There.

Scott Benner 19:30
You're my favorite. This is joking, but of course you but I don't know if you're not I can't tell exactly.

Unknown Speaker 19:39
But it's the part of the lore.

Scott Benner 19:44
For you mentioned in your note to me that you had kind of had trouble with eating disorders. At some point. Can you describe to me when that started?

Daria 19:54
So I moved to UK when I was 13. I went straight into boarding school. I didn't know anyone. I absolutely hated it, it was probably the worst four years of my entire life. And I remember I just when I moved there, I cried like every single day, there wasn't a day when I didn't cry, it was very bad. And then it just sort of turned into kind of a restriction situation. So where I was kind of punishing myself by starving myself, because I thought I wasn't doing good enough, I didn't have any social connections, I wasn't performing socially well. So that's kind of how it started. But it was nothing along the lines of Dr. bulimia, or whatever it's called. And I think it's only because I didn't know that insulin had the effect. Like, if you don't inject it, he wouldn't gain weight. Like, I had no idea about that.

And I'm quite happy. I didn't really,

Scott Benner 20:57
yeah, yeah, it's, it's interesting. When I, when I talk about it, I do think like, Is it better to just, you know, I mean, it's like one of those moments like, should you in, you know, educate people? So they understand, or is it dangerous to let people know, who maybe would never find out? But um, you know, I'm, I'm glad to that you didn't know? How so do you think this was? depression thing, being away from home? was the place just a bad place? Or what,

Daria 21:25
um, I mean, it was an old girls school, and I was used to a mixed environment. And then Russia, it's very uncommon to have like, separate sex education. And then because it was a boarding school as well, we weren't really let out of there much. So it was basically like, you can leave, I think it was once a week, and you could only leave with a friend. I did have like a Russian friend there, who we're still great friends with. And we can we went out like once a week, but like, it's really you feel blocked? Yeah. And there is not much to do. So.

Scott Benner 22:01
Was there I guess, was there a big mix of backgrounds there? Were you like an out, you know, an outlier as being from Russia weathers or was there a real good mix?

Daria 22:12
No, there was an okay mix there. Really? It would there were a few people from like Saudi Arabia, there were like Chinese looking people like Asian looking people. Few people from India? No, there were quiet. It was quite a good mix. We had Russian people there as well. And we To be honest, in boarding Russian people, we all struggled there. Quite a lot. Yeah, so my best friend had like a very bad psychological event there, which I'm not sure if she'll be happy. Happy for me to speak about but it was like very life threatening. So yeah, we all didn't really do too well, there. How was

Scott Benner 22:55
the education, which is, you know, brilliant.

Daria 22:59
I'm gonna tell you, the school was amazing. The education was great. Probably the boarding support wasn't that great. By the way, the medical support wasn't amazing, either. Because when I was at that school, I was really with non diabetic care whatsoever. So I sort of wanted to keep it in Russia. But then I couldn't really because I didn't go there very often. So I didn't really talk to an endo for quite a few years.

Which is not very good. But yeah. How did

Scott Benner 23:35
you do during that time? Were you like, how did you measure your successes? Or was it just with meter like finger sticks? Are you still getting a one sees? Or did you even or,

Daria 23:46
oh, I, I don't remember about my onesies. I probably was getting them because my mom must have push for them. But because I was with eating disorder at the time, I had very low insulin requirements. Like very, very low. And I was super active. So I did loads of cardio. And then I started to dance up while I was in my last year. there so I didn't need much insulin. And I was sometimes around the twelves Oh, sorry. I'm caught. I need to find a conversion table for you. I'll pop

Scott Benner 24:25
one up to give me a second.

Daria 24:26
Yeah. I've got it because I because I listened to the podcast. I always need it.

Scott Benner 24:31
Yeah, I am. To be honest, I needed to. When it starts happening, I'm like, oh, that means this.

Daria 24:37
Yeah, so it was around 216.

Like averaging I but when I did activity, it went like straight down. Okay, straight down. Like, literally 236

Scott Benner 24:51
Are you saying you weren't taking in a lot of food or were you vomiting or why? Why now, what you're needing Well,

Daria 25:01
I wasn't vomiting, thank god again. I was just, it was kind of more of a binge restrict situation. So when I went home for the weekends, if my parents were there, I would sort of just eat like, tons of tons of food, like without any limit. And then, during when I was at school, I literally like, I didn't know 20 grams of carbs in the morning. And that was more or less it. And then I just corrected with juice for exercise if I had to. And that was it for five days in a row. And then if I go

Scott Benner 25:38
ahead, no, no, I'm sorry.

Daria 25:39
And then if I was like, back, back up boarding, or during the weekend, I wouldn't eat much either. Okay, so it's basically starving yourself.

Scott Benner 25:48
Yeah. Were you depressed? Do you think?

Daria 25:51
Oh, yeah, I definitely was. Yeah,

Scott Benner 25:52
for sure. Sounds like it. When you would go home. That's air travel, right.

Daria 25:58
Oh, no, no, so sorry, I didn't explain myself well enough. My parents own a property in in England as well. So it was not so far from my school, but just because I was so young. I couldn't stay there. All by myself. I see. Yeah. Wow.

Scott Benner 26:14
That's a that's a rather grown up way for a young person to live. You know what I mean? Like that's a really it's a lot of alone time and a lot of decisions for yourself.

Daria 26:25
It is Yeah, and actually, when I turned 15 I think I moved out of boarding because I just hated it so much. And then I just lived in a house by by myself like without my parents. Oh my god. Which I'm actually not sure as legal legally allowed, but

Scott Benner 26:43
it's over now.

Daria 26:44
You know, we're Russian so I think it's okay.

Scott Benner 26:47
They were afraid to say anything. They're like Hey, where did she go? And they're like, nevermind It doesn't matter. She shows up on Monday and comes to class we're gonna let it mean

Daria 26:54
yeah if we've got a shovel shovel in our like back of a cars

Scott Benner 27:01
no one's gonna mess with that. I like this. Yeah. I just I'm still in the back of my head. My only like frame of reference for my joking is the Russian characters in the sopranos.

Unknown Speaker 27:13
If a while go ahead use them if you feel so drained. I

Scott Benner 27:16
tried to remember them and they're escaping me at the moment. It just all felt so comical now that I look back on it. My my memory. Okay, well, that's really crazy. Because when you're 15 you're just I'm assuming using needles and a meter, right?

Daria 27:32
Yeah, yeah, I was in needles and a meter from the point when I got diagnosed to until I actually went to Union finally sorted my diabetic care. So it was only two years ago that they gave me this the flash, the flash monitor.

Scott Benner 27:48
So is that when you you know, kind of turned around what you were doing and how you were thinking about yourself is when you left for university?

Daria 27:56
Um, yes and no, because it was in the in the second year of university. It really struck me how bad the situation was. I was just feeling really drained all the time. And because I had like, super high blood sugar's I was feeling terrible. I'm not gonna lie in the first year of university, I did go out quite a lot. I never drank much. But even if you're up all night dancing, your blood sugars will be like, quite low. Yeah. And I was still really active. I was always at the gym and then running and doing different stuff. And I was always somewhere. So my blood sugar's weren't, like, extremely bad. Right? But they were up and down all the time.

Scott Benner 28:41
Gotcha. Hey, give me give me one second here. And we did do Arden's lunch bolus while we're talking. So

Unknown Speaker 28:46
yeah, this is exciting. And

Scott Benner 28:48
so Arden's having lunch, and we she's hungry. We're not how do I say this? I don't we're not conventionally pumping at the moment. So Oh, my direction to her is going to be in a sound a little foreign. Maybe.

Daria 29:06
How much was she having a Niger park?

Scott Benner 29:10
Okay. Hmm, What's in there? Grapes. I remember grapes. There's a half of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich it's on.

Daria 29:19
So that's fats as well, which might prolong digestion I have.

Scott Benner 29:25
Huh? It's interesting now that you asked me, Oh, these little sort of thin corn chips about 15 carbs of them. And I've decided this morning when I was thinking it all in the bag. There was something else in there. I remember thinking this is going to be 70 carbs.

Daria 29:46
Well, I think the grapes are gonna struck her and it was a bagel or sandwich was it?

Scott Benner 29:53
No, half a sandwich. Okay, no high fructose corn syrup in the bread. Peanut butter. The jelly is made with Splenda. I got that in my, in my head that's around 30 carbs. Because I know the breads 25 and then the grapes and a Clementine, I remember thinking I remember putting them in and going, that's like 10 so now we were at 35 then the chips, the little corn chips. I have had 15 so right, so what are we getting out? 2535 40 like 55 and then there was a cookie of some Oh, no, two little tiny chocolate doughnuts, but they're really Carvey. So there's, like, 30 carbs in those. So now I'm realizing I need 540 odd. I gave her 60 here, and I should have done it. 80. So I'm gonna just add a little more.

I'm going to tell her we just I just under bolused

Unknown Speaker 30:57
do 20

Unknown Speaker 30:59
more carbs?

Daria 31:03
high carb counting. It does help sometimes.

Scott Benner 31:06
yet? Well, one hour.

Unknown Speaker 31:08
Yeah. Well, I agree. I agree with the Well, yeah. Sounds like a

Scott Benner 31:11
we'll see what happens here. Now I got to see if she if she saw that last one or not. Yeah, so we'll see. So yeah, so it's my so my goal here with this is I'm trying to drag this, this insulin out over this timeline. And I'm trying to think, uh huh. I think it's going to hit her. I think this one's gonna hit her two different ways. I think this meal was gonna hit fast. And it's going to hit long. So I think it's gonna hit I'm

Daria 31:40
doubting the long bit, because I'm assuming you didn't put too much peanut butter in there. And then the bread is not too long. Like, I never find it, like octane too long for me, which I don't know might be different. Yeah, it's 10:30am.

Scott Benner 31:53
Now, and I'm thinking that the impact of this food is gonna run over the next like three hours. Also, we are completely landless use the bed word we are we're completely upside down at the moment. Because we missed her Pre-Bolus time. It's the first. Yeah, it's the first couple weeks of school. And she goes, it's such a weird system. But you know, today, she'll have lunch at 10:30am. Tomorrow, she'll have lunch at like five after 12. Then the next day 1030. Then the next day, fine. Oh,

Unknown Speaker 32:27
that's a bit annoying. And

Scott Benner 32:28
you and I remember sitting down here today thinking, oh, we're not going to get to do our lunch bowls. Because during the recording because her lunches at noon today, except I was wrong about that. And so I lose track when it bounces back and forth. And the other problem is it's not like a Monday, Wednesday, Friday thing. So wherever they leave off on Monday, it rolls around a Friday. It just keeps rolling. And you just miss it.

Daria 32:49
Yeah. So I guess you'll get used to it. It's just the first few years now. Oh, God years weeks.

Scott Benner 32:57
Yeah, please. Uh huh. Now see, and now I'm gonna say Did you see the second Bolus? But she's walking through the halls I would imagine right now. So I'll keep my eye on this and see if she

Daria 33:13
was Yeah, like what number?

Scott Benner 33:15
Oh, 123. For you?

Daria 33:19
I'm looking at it. It's 6.7. Okay, she might need Yeah, she would have needed a bit of a Pre-Bolus

Scott Benner 33:27
Yeah, yeah, it's definitely gonna be a little

Daria 33:31
probably gonna spike with it. But yeah,

Scott Benner 33:33
my my, my texts are hilarious. Now. I just got a message from somebody. They're like, Hey, I just literally got a message popped up in front of me. Hey, Scott, can you please do a short podcast with Jenny Smith about the dawn phenomena?

Daria 33:44
Oh, Dawn phenomena. I suffer from that. So so much, you won't believe it. So yeah, I don't

Scott Benner 33:49
know how to do a podcast about that. Because Do you? I mean, you know,

Daria 33:53
no, I know what I do. Right? I'm on level mirror. And I wake up decently early. But regardless what time I wake up, this The moment I open my eyes, my blood sugar rises by like, three points, which is 30 ish points. 20 points, maybe say,

Scott Benner 34:14
say one from six, seven to like nine four. That'd be 120 to 170.

Daria 34:19
Yeah, so that happens, basically, but what I do I have to Pre-Bolus my my morning meal, which is my breakfast, like 40 minutes. That way I counteract the dome phenomenon and also cover my breakfast. Yeah, you're

Scott Benner 34:34
really bolusing the phenomenon and Pre-Bolus in at the same time.

Daria 34:39
Yeah, but I'm gonna tell you it's insane. So what I used to do 40 minutes is a lot. And I wake up at let's say, I wake up really early, so like 550, maybe five. If I wake up at 540. I then put Pre-Bolus at that point, and then I go to sleep for another 10 minutes. So I wake up at 550. Get ready, get my breakfast, sorted and eat then that's how it worked for me. But then one time I slept through that second alarm. Yeah, I stopped doing that. But then they moved me too fast. So I now need 35 minutes instead of 40.

Scott Benner 35:19
Yeah, well listen to what you're describing. It's interesting, right? We'll talk about messing with insulin a little bit here, what you're describing. A lot of times, I'll hear people say, I don't know what to do, like, my blood sugar is 170. So like nine and a half, right? And I'm eating in an hour dinners in and our wonderful Pre-Bolus. And I'm like, Yeah, like, go hard at it now. Like, I'll say, correct the 190. Right. And you can't get a 190 to go to, you know, 100 in 45 minutes, if you just put them if you just put in the correction. So put in the correction plus a piece of the meal and get that no,

Daria 35:56
I you know, why should I just wait maybe another? Well, because I'm on injections. I don't want to be injecting like a million times. Sure. I still do. But I don't want to be injection another time, I'd wait another 20 minutes. And like 40 minutes before he and just inject the whole thing, throw at it.

Scott Benner 36:11
Yeah. And you see, it's interesting, right? There's a good breakdown, I'm saying because in a pumping scenario, let's say your blood sugar is 190, or it's 10.5. And you'd really like it to be 100, or 5.5, when you eat. So when you if you have a pump, you can correct the 190 and put in some of the Pre-Bolus to try to like speed up the drop in that 45 minute window. And then and then while you're dropping when the food starts putting the rest of the meal, but in your scenario, because you're trying not to inject yourself 1000 times, you're saying put in one good push, and then wait about 20 minutes, about half of the time till the meal starts then putting in all the insulin for the meal. And so it's like it's like to Pre-Bolus is to conquer the high number. And to get you at a point where you're sort of trending down at a better number when the food starts hitting you.

Daria 37:04
Yeah, well, that's my other problem with eating disorders. So I know, I do that myself as well. But sometimes 40 minutes before the meal, I won't be hungry. And then I might think, Oh, I actually do want to eat, but now I need to Pre-Bolus and I'm like, okay, maybe I shouldn't eat now. But then it's restricting again. So it might cause like, it might be a trigger event, then bingi again, right, which is a bit, it's getting a bit more complicated. But I've like I've just managed to kind of ignore that. And I still Pre-Bolus and then still eat, because I'm pretty active, like being a personal trainer, and just training all the time. And doesn't really bother me that much anymore. But well, at the worst parts, I know I have a friend as well who he can't eat, if he doesn't want to eat and he won't Pre-Bolus at all, like he'll only do the meal. Insulin if he sees it because he knows if he's going to eat it or not. So it's a bit hard to Pre-Bolus in that kind of situation.

Scott Benner 38:10
I have no real life information, you know, to to inform what I'm about to say it's just kind of how it's striking me in the moment. But I feel like, you know, you're in your second year of college, my son's in his second year of college are probably similarly aged. If this was, if you were my son talking about this, I think I would be looking into, like therapy for you to try to figure this out. Or you think you

Daria 38:40
know, well, I've thought about this quite a lot of times. I've actually tried it. And it's never helped. So I've kind of been like, well, I've tried, like three or four times now and yeah, just just not helping Well, they say you never actually properly recover from an eating disorder. So I'm not saying I have that now. Yeah, but I'm saying a few years ago, when I did think that way. It would have been a trouble for me. Pre-Bolus I see. And that is probably part of the reason why I didn't do that.

Scott Benner 39:18
Now I understand. Okay,

Daria 39:19
yet to be honest, doctors never spoke to me about Pre-Bolus anyway.

Scott Benner 39:24
No, I I can't tell you, I must get three messages every other day there. That's just from some putty who incredulously says How could nobody have ever told me about this? And yet it's completely changing my life. And, you know, that's simple. That's simple. I do.

Daria 39:40
I know. Yeah. So um, I, when I started listening to your podcast, I was about an A, A one c like 7.3 or something. And no, I'm 5.7 and that is from Pre-Bolus.

Scott Benner 39:54
That's tremendous. I you know, you hear me say it, but you know when people are talking and they're not goes a lot of ideas like what do I do first? And you know, I always talk about getting Basal correct first. But the next idea is start Pre-Bolus saying take a point off your one say, you know, like, it's like, it's like a free point every Wednesday, if you just begin to Pre-Bolus been doing it.

Daria 40:16
I remember just coming to my doctors and saying, oh, I've got these like spikes to 20 after breakfast. Well, you see I Pre-Bolus 40 minutes. Now, of course, I would have had a spike. And they were like, Oh, you probably should look into changing what you eat for breakfast. I was like, No, I'm not changing my left because of diabetes. Diabetes to change for me. I'm not going to do that.

Scott Benner 40:40
Yeah. Hey, listen, I'm sorry. I'm sorry to do this for you. I just got an ad from Martin who said, Hey, I'm completely lost on this Bolus. Can you just tell me again? Okay, so I'm going to do again, 25, two hours. And then I'm going to do I actually have a drifting. So I'm going to do 45.

Unknown Speaker 41:04
Three hours. I'm looking for Bolus around 11. That's what

Scott Benner 41:20
all right, let's see what happens, right? It's just, this never happened before. It's very, it's very honest and mature. I said, Hey, did you see the second bolus? And she goes, I'm doing it now. Wait, then she goes, do I Bolus both of them? Oh,

Unknown Speaker 41:35
yeah.

Unknown Speaker 41:38
And don't don't love her. And then

Scott Benner 41:45
for our HR, so this is called. So this is slowly get it? So this is Oh, why am I two hours and don't deliver and then 45. Three hours and Bolus. So I was trying to talk around it, but I guess I can't. So no big deal. Just gonna keep going. So let's just talk it through. So looping, looping, boluses are impactful. And more purposeful, when the loop understands 9.85 units, just gonna say do it, we'll see what happens. So when the loop understands the the idea of how long you think the food is going to impact you, it's called absorption time in the loop, right. So the problem is, if I say, hey, do 25 carbs that that absorption time of two hours, that's really just me trying to get four units going, right, because I know ardens carb ratios now is like, like six point something for a unit. So if I say 25, I'm looking for 612 1824 looking for about four units to go in. And you give the loop the idea that that absorption time is two hours. That's me trying to kind of front load more of the insulin, I'm trying to trick the loop into keeping the bazelon. And so because normally normally the way the loop acts is you put all the insulin in and the first thing it does is shut off the Basal to wait and see what the Bolus does. But I know that the glycemic impact of these carbs is big. And I need the Bolus and the Basal. So the now the next problem is if you put in these 25 carbs to two hours and push you know Bolus, the Bolus takes five minutes or so to go in. Yeah, like it takes forever to go in. So I can't have Arden standing around waiting to put in the other half of the bolus at the three hour mark. So if you tell it, this is for people bolusing it's a little trick. If you tell it 25 carbs, two hours, and then it gives you the delivery, don't deliver the insulin you put in zero for the delivery and then hit OK. And then go back and tell it end. You know, the rest of it 40 carbs, whatever, three hours, then that next insulin suggestion it gives you includes the two hour and the three hour window. And then you can put in one Bolus, but the algorithm remembers that 25 of the carbs should impact over two hours while the balance of them should impact over three hours. So it's sort of a it's an it's not an easy way, but it's the way that the app works. So that you only

Daria 44:30
I'm not gonna lie my brain.

Scott Benner 44:32
My brain right now. I swear. Yeah, I don't know how. So the book so for people looping, the text says 25 carbs, two hours don't deliver 45 carbs three hours, then deliver. I'm trying to get around 11 units, it ended up being around 10 units. I'm just doing it now to see what happens. The reason I'm just going with it is because about 20 minutes before you and I started talking we did a little bump of insulin so that 130 that you saw actually is like one six Now, so I'm thinking I'll split the difference on that last unit and see what happens. I'm sorry, because that is really, this is really just crazy. Oh, and it is confusing. So here's something a jdrf chapters gonna have me out to do a talk, where it's just me, which is really lovely. But I can't do their date.

Unknown Speaker 45:27
Oh, no.

Scott Benner 45:29
I have to call them and see if we can work a different data.

Daria 45:32
Know what I'm actually fundraising for jdrf. UK, I am doing a challenge when I'm going to be doing six spin classes in one day. No kidding. So I'm gonna go Yeah, I know, I don't even know how I'm gonna do that. But, yeah, I'm pretty excited, actually. So I'm just I've contacted a number of London spin studios, and I want to go to all of them, while six of them, and just do six in a day, and I'm fundraising for that through jdrf. And the reason for that being is I want people to actually be able to get on to diabetic management tools. Because it's very, very hard to get onto a Libra here, the flash glucose monitor or an omni pod, really. And I'm not like, kid my life, but it's so so useful for a diabetic.

Scott Benner 46:25
Oh, my God, I Are you kidding? It's fantastic. There's no CGM is

Daria 46:30
it's just it's just, you know, it's a difference between living and surviving. And it's just so bad that people can't actually get on to it.

Scott Benner 46:41
Yeah. Yeah, I am. I would love to come to the UK someday and do one of these talks. Actually. I'm trying to I tried working with the jdrf in the UK to get you know, the young man who played at the Royal Wedding, he played the cello. I can't think of his name, mate. And I guess I'm asleep. No, I think his last name is Mason. He has type one diabetes. So he was trying to get the jdrf. UK to get him on the show. And they they didn't seem like they had as much contact with them as they needed to make it happen. But I yesterday, it was a really exciting day for me, I I pretty sure I booked the type one nation event in Georgia. I'm going to be in Kansas City. I think I just booked Central Pennsylvania. And I had a really good conversation yesterday with Wisconsin with Arizona, I think it's possible to do about six of them in the next six months. So I'm excited because you get to go to places where some people just don't know about the podcast, they don't know about the internet, they know that they know about the internet, they just don't know, they don't have it as accessibly as they need it. And you know, I love being able to get out in the real world talk to people. So it sounds like you're gonna get to do the same thing. So, so tell me a little bit about how you how you talk to people about like, so how do you find your way into what you're doing? Like you said, you you do you know, personal training? Is that something that you personal train, from your own experience? Like if you have such good experience with it, that you're like, I can show this to other people? Like how do you get started with that?

Daria 48:17
Well, that's a very complicated question, because there is no qualification as such in the UK, to actually be able to coach people with type one. So I basically I say, I offer support with glucose management, and I do offer support and people will go as far as they want, with my help. Sure. Because I can't directly advertise it, the only qualification that there is, is in the US. So I'm hoping to go to us and actually get that qualification to be able to properly do it. So

Scott Benner 48:58
if you had that you could go back to the UK and say, I'm certified in the US for this.

Unknown Speaker 49:02
Well, pretty much. Yes. Yeah.

Scott Benner 49:04
That's excellent. I mean, listen, there's a very good reason that the first thing you hear on this podcast is the statement that nothing you hear on this podcast is advice because it's, it's a weird line to walk, like, you know, if you know something, and you want to share it, but you're not even if you are a doctor, it's you know, talking about stuff like this is difficult, but it's necessary. And so, like, how do you, you know, you gotta walk the line, you need to do it correctly, and you do it safely and like appropriately, but at the same time, can you imagine if this is gonna please I don't mean this like this, but what if I just never started this podcast?

Unknown Speaker 49:41
You

Scott Benner 49:42
know, and so, I can't live with that. You know, I mean, like, I can't, I can't get all of your notes every day and see you online talking about your less, you know, variability, your control, you know, I'm back to my life, you know, you know, how do you just look at people and say, Oh, well, too bad, you know, because I don't, you know, I, I'm not, you know, not supposed to tell you what to do. And I'm, and I'm not but you know, like it's just a weird line to watch.

Daria 50:10
You know, like even in UK and US, I hear you always saying that doctors just don't really give you proper medical advice. Well, that's not what I meant. They didn't give you life advice. Yes. They give you what they were taught by books, because most of them are not type one diabetics, right? Oh, sure. And they have no idea what they're dealing with. Like, sorry, guys. But that's, that's what it is. And some do.

Scott Benner 50:36
But how do you know which one you're getting? You know, exactly like, how do you how do you know which which one you're, and if you talk to a nurse that's trained in in the US, they'll tell you that they spent, you know, three pages in a book on type one diabetes. And that's it. You know,

Daria 50:51
yeah, I have a very funny story. So I came to my diabetic nurse. And I was quite like struggling a lot with my blood sugar's I was having a lot of hypose. And I showed you showed her my my graph, on my phone, the glucose monitor graph, and she struggled to interpret it. And I was like, excuse me, what are you even doing here? Why am I spending my appointment, which is only 15 minutes to explain you how to use the libri app,

Scott Benner 51:20
right? Man, it doesn't help me, I only have a very little bit of time. And the goal, by the way, is that I'm stuck. And I'm trying to show you something thinking you'll look at it and go, Oh, I see. Do this. And instead, you're telling me Oh, this is a fancy little thing. How does this work? I really do pride myself now on, on being able to look at a graph and get a really good feeling for what's needed pretty quickly. And it just comes from practice. And if that nurse practice the way I did, she'd see the graph that way too. I don't have a superpower. You know what I mean? Like you just, you just have to see it over and over again, before you go. I texted these words to a person that I know personally, that I was that I'm helping this week. This morning. I said this graph is asking for bazel.

Unknown Speaker 52:09
And,

Scott Benner 52:09
and she's like, how do you know I'm like, just really like, look at it. It's asking for basically, I can see it, you know, and and we made a small bazel adjustment from a 1.2 an hour to a 1.4 an hour. And I'm going to look right now. blood sugar. 92. Yeah, right. It's a fun, you know, amazing.

Daria 52:30
That's the problem with love America, because you can't adjust to our tower. And you never know what your blood sugar is going to do this day. I'm very, very insulin sensitive. So even half a unit makes a huge difference to me, right? I've the last two days, I've struggled with unbelievable hypose. Okay, like, it's just not coming up.

Scott Benner 52:52
And it sucks because in in a pumping situation, you would dial your your bazel back. And but you're stuck in a situation where for whatever reason for these days, you don't need as much insulin as you normally do. But it's in there. And you know,

Daria 53:04
and that's the thing. I'm asking for a pump. And they're saying I'm too good for it. Oh, that's amazing, guys, thanks a lot. That's just really helping.

Scott Benner 53:13
That's terrible. Is that the answer? Is that your blood? Your blood sugar's are doing well, like you don't need it.

Unknown Speaker 53:19
Yeah, that's nice,

Daria 53:20
because there is a criteria because it's all government funded. So there are quite strict criteria for pumps and sensors and things. I have

Scott Benner 53:29
a lot of hope for the United Kingdom and on the pod because I know that on the pod is over, they're working really hard on making the pump more accessible in the UK. So I hope it doesn't take forever to work out. I know the person who's one of the people who's spearheading It is a good person and a bright person. I think they can get it accomplished. So I'm hopeful. Well, yeah, no kidding, right? Because you shouldn't be told that you shouldn't be told, hey, you only get low once in a while. You know, just deal with it. Like what?

Daria 54:03
It's just the thing is, I don't get low once in a while. I do get low quite a lot, because I don't like seeing like a Yeah, a 162 or 160 even. So I correct it. But a half a unit drives me to like 245 which is not great. You know, that's how sensitive I am. Yeah,

Scott Benner 54:24
isn't that stupid? So if you're a one C was higher, but you had a lot of lows. they'd let you have a pump. But if your agency is lower and you have a lot of lows, you don't need a pump. Exactly. There is no common sense in that thought whatsoever.

Unknown Speaker 54:37
Oh yeah.

Scott Benner 54:39
It's a line someone drew on a piece of paper and said how are we going to save money here? Well, we'll say if you're a one sees below this then you don't need a pump.

Daria 54:47
Yeah, well, because they consider us help you with the lower anyone sees. Yeah, no, doesn't really matter how we get there.

Scott Benner 54:54
Yeah, it does. And they should worry about the variability more so than the pump. You're more so than that, then The agency significantly more. Oh my gosh, yeah, you're making me upset because I thought the UK was a better place. And they're just screwing you in a different way. Yeah, but there is like fish and chips on every corner. So that must make up for something now,

Daria 55:14
he know was very funny. I've never had fish and chips. And I've never wanted to. I just don't i don't get the English cuisine. To be quite honest.

Scott Benner 55:23
I have a question for you. Me, you might know this. You've been there now. As has has the opening up that Brexit has allowed? Are there different? Is the cuisine in England expanding? Because are people allowed to work more freely? Like, are you seeing more restaurants and people with different cultures come in? Or do you

Daria 55:45
know, I'd say it's a bit the other way around. Now people are leaving the UK with Brexit. Gotcha. But however, there are plenty of Polish stores. Like the Indian community is huge here. There's an Asian community. There are tons of communities even in London. And I'm not gonna lie, I study in Leeds, which is not London. So it's not the capital, but the rest of the UK differs a lot from London, London is super, super International. Whereas the rest of the UK, still sort of international. But it's completely different in the vibe and everything in every aspect is more

Scott Benner 56:31
British when you get outside of London.

Unknown Speaker 56:33
Yes, exactly. Gotcha. Interesting. Well,

Scott Benner 56:37
I we are rolling up on the end. And I wanted to know if there's anything that we didn't talk about that you wish we would have, because I'd like to take the rest of that time with that if we do

Daria 56:45
you know what I'm I wanted to say that there's a very good course that is offered by the National Health health care system here called the Daphne course. And if anyone is in the UK, they should really, really consider doing it ask to get onto it. It's free of charge. It's a week long, but it helps you get your basals. Right, understand your carb counting, they teach you to carb count properly. And you will come out of there a completely different person.

Scott Benner 57:16
b. So b A f n e, right? Yes, yes, it's da f n e.uk.com.

Daria 57:25
It's not a website. It's just a course that's cold like that. So if you Google it, they will probably come up with the NHS website. But when you go to your next appointment, just ask for it and get onto it.

Scott Benner 57:38
Okay, and so it's a is it at home thing, you do it on your own? You do it online, you do it with a person, how does it work?

Daria 57:45
Well, so there are several options, they usually run at a hospital. So the way I did it, I it was just literally a nine to five hospital course where you are there with another like if 810 people, and they literally teach you just everything, it's with two or three nurses, and they talk about everything from complications to Bolus not Pre-Bolus thing but bolusing. They help you figure out your basals you do like a little diary for them. It might sound a bit weird, but it's super helpful. Like it's a good place to start. If you're really struggling with your agencies. And just your in general, your management.

Scott Benner 58:25
Thank you. I appreciate you telling me that. That's excellent. Yeah, I am, I will do my best to put something tough because I'm googling and it's bringing me to a bunch of different

Daria 58:34
I can send you a link to a few.

Scott Benner 58:37
Thank you. Yeah, I'll put it I'll put it with with the show comes.

Unknown Speaker 58:41
That's excellent.

Daria 58:43
Yeah. And another thing probably I wanted to say is guys, be careful with fats. Because every time I eat fats in my meals, it just spikes me so badly. Afterwards, you saw

Scott Benner 58:57
you get that rise that that kind of fat protein rise, just kind of dress up now. It's interesting. You say this, because your episode will go up, like months from now. But next week, in my life and in the real world here with you and I there'll be a pro tip episode between Jenny Smith and I that's all about fat and protein rise.

Unknown Speaker 59:17
Oh, that is very exciting. No one up on

Scott Benner 59:20
Tuesday. So hopefully that'll help you. But yeah, it's um, when Jenny was explaining to me and we were talking about what I see with art and sometimes it's fascinating because it's not what you expect that you think a piece of chicken, no carbs. This has no impact on my blood sugar. But it does. And I think that um, I think it's going to be interesting for people to hear so you'll you'll hear

Daria 59:44
Yeah, it's even worse with fats To be honest, because well, I don't know. You probably know. But the liver actually starts releasing glucose by itself. Yep. Which is awful. Like it's just horrible

Scott Benner 59:56
and the fat the fat gets in your stomach and it slows the entire digestion process down, which extends the life of the carbs and all this stuff Jenny and I are it. I like the conversation, I can't wait for it to go up and we're actually doing another thing. So for everyone listening, this is, you know, go back like six months, but But um, we're going to do I had a person who's a keto, but eats like a keto diet while they came on and explained how they bolus for their food. And then Jenny and I are taking her description, we're going to listen to it, then we're going to discuss it. So you're going to get to hear the description from the person who does it. And then Jenny and I are going to kind of break it down afterwards. So I'm excited for them. Yeah, I'm doing my best over if I had more time I do more fun things, but

Unknown Speaker 1:00:44
I'm doing my absolute.

Daria 1:00:45
Trust me if everyone had more time, we will be doing more fun things.

Scott Benner 1:00:49
It's true. Well, it sounds like you got a lot of dancing. And so I think it's, I didn't know. So is my as we go out, and I swear I have to cheat you for a couple minutes. So I can make my phone call but so So is that a is a person your age. That's a good thing to do, where you're like you go out hit clubs, like go dancing, that kind of thing.

Daria 1:01:10
You know, well, I did that for one year, and I I just stopped enjoying it. And I don't drink at all anymore. And I don't go out anymore. I just work a lot. You know,

Scott Benner 1:01:21
you're getting older.

Daria 1:01:23
I know. I feel like a grandma now. How old are you? I'm 20

Scott Benner 1:01:28
Yeah, you're a 20 year old grandma. That's exactly what you All right. Well, I really appreciate you coming on and doing this and taking all of my like I said ham fisted jokes at the beginning about Russia.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:39
Please come on. We love your jokes.

Scott Benner 1:01:41
I appreciate that. When you go home Please tell them to stop manipulating our elections because we would just like to pick for ourselves. I really just want to just pick myself and see what happens. You know, David,

Unknown Speaker 1:01:52
I'll try my best.

Scott Benner 1:01:52
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what kind of sway you have. But give it a try. Thank you so very much for doing this. I hope you have a great day. Yeah, I

Daria 1:01:59
hope you have a great day. Thank you for having me. Take care. Take care.

Scott Benner 1:02:05
Huge thanks to Darya for coming on the show and being so amazing. And I mean that she was really just light hearted and genuine. I loved having her on. Thanks also to the Contour Next One blood glucose meter, you can get that at Contour Next one.com or through the links in the show notes. And of course touch by type one is available touched by type one.org. And there are links again in the show notes of your podcast player. Or at Juicebox podcast.com. Check out the area on Instagram. She is T one level underscore Daria da ri a T one level underscore Daria on Instagram. I've also put some links on the episode page for this episode. 342 is the number at Juicebox podcast.com. There's some links to various blogs. Check her out.