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Scott Benner 0:07
Hey everybody, whoo. Oh, excuse me. Hey, everybody. Hey everybody, welcome to Episode 338 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's show is with Jordan, and it is a absolute delight. Seriously, this hour is going to rush by. And all you'll think when it's over is Oh, no, please can I have more? Jordan is a 25 year old girl who is newly diagnosed. And her outlook on diabetes is almost unlike anyone I've ever spoken to. Very interesting to hear person her age diagnosed right now, and the experience they're having. Beyond that, she really is wonderful. And the conversation is absolutely terrific. At the end of this episode, I'll fumbling around looking for an acronym that I'll never be able to think of. But just so you know, now it's a s m r. Okay, real quick. Nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, please always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan for becoming bold with insulin, be doctor.

This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by Omni pod, and Dexcom on the pot, of course, the best insulin pump in the whole world in my opinion. And it's tubeless, you can try a free, no obligation demo of the AMI pod by clicking on the links in your show notes. Were the ones that Juicebox podcast.com that leads you to my Omni pod.com forward slash juice box. And of course to learn more about the dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor dexcom.com Ford slash juice box. There'll be more about these wonderful sponsors, little later in the show. But for now, this is Jordan.

Jordan 2:06
My name is Jordan. I'm 25 years old, I was diagnosed with Type One Diabetes, January 15 2019. While I was 25 years old.

Scott Benner 2:16
So Jordan, I do a thing when people who are newer diagnosed, reach out and want to be on the podcast. Sometimes I say to them, do it next year if you've lived with it. And sometimes I'm like, Yeah, come on right now. I don't know why I get the vibe one way or the other when I do. But you were one that I was like, hey, let's let's get this together as quickly as we can now for you know, coherency sake for people listening. What that means is that you emailed me in February, and now in August 1 recording so right away, right? Yes. I'm sorry that it took so long.

Jordan 2:49
No, no, that's fine. Very cool. I know you're a busy man. And you're booked up. So

Scott Benner 2:53
you're, you're very kind to say that so that other people think that is true about me? No, no. To be honest, it's this was the year that the podcast really showed to me. Like, how it was growing because I am booking Now, sometimes nine months or a year ahead of when people asked to be on and that yeah, that's amazing. throws me off a little bit. Right. You're 25 now where you're you, you're so you're still okay. Is there any diabetes in the family?

Jordan 3:23
Not my immediate family. So on my dad's side, his cousin has type one diabetes, and his uncle. So not any immediate family but distant family.

Scott Benner 3:34
So nobody was walking around thinking, Oh, my 25 year old daughter is probably gonna get diabetes any second now?

Jordan 3:41
Yeah, not at all just hit us all in the face.

Scott Benner 3:44
Now when that happens, and your father then did your father live with your brother while like did your uncle have diabetes, I guess when your your father and he were kids, I guess so.

Jordan 3:53
It's actually my dad's uncle. So it's not my uncle? Um, no, that's okay. But he didn't really see him that much. So he wasn't really around the whole diabetes thing. He didn't really. I mean, my parents both knew the symptoms of diabetics and all of that stuff, but they didn't really think their daughter would end up with diabetes.

Scott Benner 4:20
And so you know what, I was wondering if if had he lived with a brother with it? Was it Well, no, it was wondering what his reaction might have been. So you have a your diagnosis story, I think seems like it's worth telling. So yes, I know. I don't usually just go tell me your whole story about being diagnosed, but I want to hear yours.

Jordan 4:37
In December of 2018 I actually got a really bad car accident. I was at a Christmas party that my company was hosting and I had two alcoholic drinks. I ate a bunch of food budget Carvey stuff a chicken parm I broccoli, and I actually had pineapple Juice. I didn't know at this time that I was diabetic, obviously. And I drove home thinking, Oh yeah, I'm fine. I was at the party for about six hours. I didn't have a drink for about three hours before I left. It was really foggy. And it was raining that night. I was in a really unfamiliar area, and I ended up crashing into a curb on a rotary. So I had to call the cops cops came. They thought I was drunk. So they arrested me. I'm still going through that right now. But I am finding that I was diabetic at the time. I was experiencing symptoms before that. And it's funny because that day before I went to my party, I didn't really think anything of it, but I had Burger King for lunch, which I'm, I was always normally healthy. Burger King wasn't really my number one choice. But I had Burger King, I had a large Dr. Pepper. I will never drink Dr. Pepper again. And I got home in two hours after I ate the Burger King actually threw everything up.

Scott Benner 6:13
Did you just think that was your body being like conscious of your health?

Jordan 6:17
Yeah, yeah, I was like, you know, I had Burger King, that probably wasn't the best for me. So maybe my body was just rejecting the Burger King because I haven't had fast food and so long. So, um, that happened, accident happened. And 17 days after the accident. I was in the hospital and DK.

Scott Benner 6:40
Yeah, so it was coming on and going away still, like kind of ebb and flow and, you know, a little higher. So it's interesting that you think about the, the, like the fogginess of the of the night, do you think Yeah, was your vision? Do you think? Oh, yeah. Mm hmm. Not because it was definitely

Jordan 6:58
blurred? No, yeah. My vision was definitely blurred. And I was experiencing issues with my vision. Actually, I work in front of a computer all day. So I was like, you know, I think my eyes are getting worse because of me working in front of a computer and all that stuff. And it was actually because my blood sugar was too high. So I'm sorry for ya. I'm

Scott Benner 7:20
sure that'll work out. Do you have a good feeling? Oh, yeah. Work out in court?

Jordan 7:24
Yes, I do. I have a very good lawyer now. He definitely wants to fight for me, because it's clear that I had diabetes at that moment, because I actually had messaged my primary care on December 12, of 2018. I was like, You know what, I'm drinking over a gallon of water a day. I urinate a lot. My mouth is really dry. And I was like, I have trouble eating a bagel and blah, blah, blah. And my primary care actually never ended up responding to me. Um, so they actually could have diagnosed me before I even got my accident. Which sort of sucks.

Scott Benner 8:03
It's interesting how we kind of don't communicate still with our doctors properly. There's all this technology available. And still, no one's sort of put it together with how do you how do you speak properly to your doctor? I have to say that ardens endo is really responsive to emails. And oh, okay. We I think I've settled on another episode. But Arden has hypothyroidism and we were able to dial her medication in in a matter of weeks, instead of a matter of a year because it was try this Okay, here's another script, go get a blood test, you know, like that kind of thing. And it just it was so much more responsive. And it really does sound like if someone would have responded to you that you would have had a different situation. Well, I'm glad you're okay.

Jordan 8:45
Yeah, me too. No, I was not hurt in the accident. Um, I wasn't going fast. Just hit a curb and hit anything or anybody else, thank God. But when I was admitted to the ER, I was with my grandmother, and our hospital over here, sort of on a hill. So I'm trying to walk up the hill, and I'm very shortness of breath. I can almost not breathe. So I was walking up the hill walking up the hill, and all of a sudden, I couldn't breathe anymore. I was like, You know what, Nana, like, I need to I need to stop I need to sit down for a second. So I actually sat on the sidewalk. And she was like, Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna go get someone. So I actually had to be wheelchairs into the hospital because I couldn't even walk anymore. I couldn't even breathe anymore.

Scott Benner 9:39
I guess it's a good so it's not a good sign when your grandmother can make it up the hill and you can't and

Unknown Speaker 9:43
it right.

Scott Benner 9:45
I'm gonna just actually I'm gonna divert for one half of a second and tell you though, yeah, when I was a kid, they would decorate the the Burger Kings. The McDonald's with these clings like these big things. They would stick to the window. So like, every time they you know, started a new campaign. It was almost like they kind of To repaper the windows with these things, there was this giant Burger King, he was the size of the entire door. It must, it must have been like three feet wide and six feet tall. So Burger King near my house and I said to my friends one day, I'm like, we've got to get that out of here. And and they were like, what I'm like, Don't you feel like we need this? Like, you know, back then, like we all had stereos that were really big. And like there was glass doors on I thought, wouldn't that be great on the glass door of a stereo? And so we did successfully steal that Burger King cleaning off? Oh, wow. Just really proud of that for some reason, and I just wanted to tell you. Okay, so you haven't you've had diabetes officially? for nine months ish?

Unknown Speaker 10:39
Not even nine months? Yeah. Yep.

Scott Benner 10:42
So this is, uh, this is great. So great. Not for you. But for the pocket. For you. It's a heart for the podcast. It's fantastic. All right. So I'd like to know you're in a major metropolitan area, and you're diagnosed with Type One Diabetes, and you know, January of 2019. How do you leave the hospital? What's the feeling going out the door? Like, what do you think this is going to be for your life. I'm going to start today talking about the Omni pod tubeless insulin pump. Arden, of course, has been wearing the AMI pod. Since she was four years old. She's going to be 16. This summer. That's a long time, Arden has been wearing an ami pot, every one of those days since she was four. And it is an absolute staple in her diabetes care. As quickly as time appears to be going in that little parable. It's going even more quickly, quicker, faster. the right word there as quickly as time's going by and that little parable, it's going even more quickly, more quickly can't be right, it's going even faster. That even sounds like wrong. What do I want to say? We're really we were way past what I wanted to say. All I want to say is, you know, everybody's sort of in their home right now. And time is going by incredibly slow and incredibly fast. At the same time, the days take forever. The weeks are going by is that that's what I met this lady here to get it just I'm sorry. It's like 1130 trying to get this done. Because it's not your problem. You don't care. Anyway, my point is, don't wait to try the Omni pod. Especially when they're offering you an absolutely free, no obligation demo, they'll put an omni pod in a box and send it to your home. There you will do whatever you want with it. Honestly, I guess if you wanted to stick it to the roof of your car and tell people you were a police officer. Like you should probably have the color like red and blue. But you could do that with it. But it would make more sense if you put it on your body where your child's body and tried it. See what it's like to wear it on the pot for a couple of days. Take a bath with a shower, wander around the house, do your calisthenics, please, this 1950 I gotta I might be something wrong with me. My point is, it's free and there's no obligation and you'll get to find out what you think of the Omni pod. without taking any risk. Just go to my Omni pod.com forward slash juicebox when you use that link, that's how I'm the pod No, she came from here. So help me out. If you can hit the link, you can find it right there in the show notes for your podcast player for Juicebox podcast.com, where you can just type it in. Now in my opinion, no diabetes technology suite. I don't mean like s ui TE sweet, like a grouping of things. I'm I'm I think I had a stroke a couple minutes ago. But that's not going to stop me from telling you about the dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor and how amazing I think it is. I'm looking right now at ardens blood sugar, it is literally 1130 here. And Arden's in bed, her blood sugar's 93 and stable. But about an hour and a half ago, she was falling, and I didn't expect it. But she was drifting down 105 96 a little diagonal Down Arrow, I could sort of tell by the pathway of the of the arrow. This wasn't going to stop. And Arden was you know, wanting to get a shower before bed and they said I think you just have to have just maybe 1012 carbs right here. I know that from experience. You know, and, and I know that hold on.

I'm not editing this at all. I just again I'm sorry. Anyway, I know from experience that the pitch of that arrow, that line was telling me about 10 or 12 carbs, you should took the meme. When we got our shower, kind of bottomed out around 72 and came back up to this 93 number I'm seeing right now instead, I was able to do that. Because of what I've learned from Arden's Dexcom, g six over the years from using Dexcom for years and years and years, I can just interpret that But my ability to interpret that line would be meaningless if that line wasn't there. Without that information, if Arden was just doing finger sticks alone, I never would have seen that drop. As a matter of fact, if we would have tested her right before that shower, I would have seen a blood sugar of 103. And thought boost is perfect go. But it wasn't Dexcom told us that. And they told us that in a way that helped us stop a low from ever happening, and no rebound high. Now, you might notice the music's not playing anymore. But I hit a little stride there and I wasn't gonna stop dexcom.com forward slash juicebox. let Dexcom know you came from the Juicebox Podcast. More importantly, go find out more about it and get yourself one if you can. Seriously, best advice I could possibly give you get an Dexcom yet it on the pod. And they're not sponsors of the show today, but get a Contour. Next One blood glucose meter two links are in the show notes. And at Juicebox podcast.com. Okay, well, luckily, the guy who recorded those ads is not the same guy that interviewed Jordan. So let's get back to it. What do you think this is gonna be for your life,

Jordan 16:12
I felt like a new person. I felt like I didn't really even know much. I had a really bad experience in the hospital, I actually had to learn how to use an insulin pen by myself with YouTube.

Scott Benner 16:27
They just were in the room and shut the door again.

Jordan 16:32
Yeah, the nurses didn't even know how to use an insulin pen, which made me very, very scared. So I was just like, you know what, just give me my pen and I'll figure it out. So figured that out on my own. Of course, my mother stayed in the hospital with me, she slept in my hospital room every single night. It's wonderful. She did not go home at all, she went home, maybe for an hour each day to shower. But that's about it. So I walked out of the hospital, like, I'm a whole new person, I'm going to have a whole new lifestyle. I am not going to be able to eat ice cream at 10 o'clock at night anymore. I'm not gonna be able to eat this, this and that. Um, but obviously, I can eat whatever I want. That was just my thought when I was leaving the hospital. So

Unknown Speaker 17:19
Wow. That's

Scott Benner 17:21
Yeah, that's sad. And but understandable. If they were like, Hey, here's the thing that will keep you alive. We don't know how to show you to use it. But you've got to figure it out. But now, but I think that's kind of that's inspiring, though. And I think it to me, speaks to what I think people can do about taking over their own care and why you know, on some level, why I think the podcast is so important. So right, so you're given an insulin pen, you know, nothing of it. And you're saying YouTube is where you learn how to use it.

Jordan 17:52
Yes, I looked up using an insulin pen on YouTube. And me and my mom watched a video together. I tried it. And I did it

Scott Benner 18:01
was that. That's really spectacular. And I think, a good indicator to anybody listening that, you know, you can't, you can't like forget you shouldn't you can't just sit back and say, I'm getting incomplete advice. I guess. This is my life. Now I'll have incomplete advice. Right, right.

Jordan 18:19
Yes. So definitely doable by yourself. Yeah. Go ahead.

Scott Benner 18:24
No, no, I was gonna say that, you know, initially said, I felt like a new person. And there was a moment. But there was a moment where I thought you were going to go down the road where you're like, I'm a new woman now. Like, like, like, you men. Yes. You meant everything about life. completely different. Day one starting over. Except, yeah, except you don't get to be a baby and feel your way through it for nine years. Right? Exactly. Completely frightening or did you feel supported by your family or what helped them.

Jordan 18:54
I was very, very, very supported by my family. friends came to see me at the hospital. My mom's friends came to see me at the hospital. My grandparents came all the time. My mother and father were always there. My boyfriend was always there. So I definitely had a lot of support. The only thing is, is my family doesn't really know much about type one diabetes. So when I first got diagnosed, we were all on the internet on Google searching. What is type one diabetes? What can we do to do anything that helps type one diabetes, and all this stuff? And going on the internet was probably not the best thing for me to do.

Scott Benner 19:40
Yeah. So I was gonna say, Did you find helpful advice or did you find people going, Oh, my God, everything sucks.

Jordan 19:47
I did find some helpful stuff. But obviously, I ran into like the complications and sort of scared myself. So that was the only bad thing that I sort of saw.

Scott Benner 20:00
That's a unfortunate downside of the I think the need of the internet to help right people is that you're going to find, you know, I say all the time like the internet's for like three things, right? It's email pornography and complaining. And so I don't really know that it's or anything else. And, and so you're, you know, people don't generally get online to be like, Hey, you know what's amazing in my life, my CGM. And here's right, like nobody takes the time to talk about things that are going great because you're hoping life goes great. You know, you, you get stuck on the things that aren't going well. And then there's so much bad information as your story kind of highlights, you know, imagine other people who didn't think to go to YouTube when the nurse at the hospital said, Hey, here's your insulin pen. Good luck. Yeah. You know, then they make their way to the next person who was in that situation, who says, This is what diabetes is, we're all screwed. And then they think, Oh, I'm screwed. And then that's the path they go down. Right. So it's really, um, it's inspiring to know that you found one way, it's sad to know that sometimes people bump into that other information.

Jordan 21:11
Yeah, I mean, I'm sort of happy, I sort of figured it out on my own. Because I am 25 years old. I'm not 12 years old, getting diagnosed. still a kid. So me figuring it out myself sort of made me think that I can do this on my own. This is doable, if I just put my head together and try and do this myself. So I think it was helpful in a way but obviously, it did talk at the beginning. So

Scott Benner 21:41
I believe that too, I believe that it's, yeah, it's something that if you have, you know, sort of the right entree into that you can work your way through with with a with a decent mindset and some luck, you know what I mean? Like you don't bump into some bump into some stuff, you've got, you know, insurance that will help you those sorts of things. So, that that, um, it does lead me to that idea. Like, you're 25 like, you're right on that precipice for like, Hey, get off your parent's insurance. Are you like a gainfully employed? 25 year old a US college students still are you just so I went?

Jordan 22:11
Yeah. So I'm still on my mother's insurance as of right now. Um, but obviously, I'm gonna need to find my own insurance. I am employed at four different places. I am a girl's soccer coach right now. I'm a girls lacrosse coach in the spring. So I work at a high school in my town. I actually went to that high school. I work at a insulation company. I work at champs sports, which is a sneaker store. And then I work at Red Rose pizzeria in Springfield, mass,

Scott Benner 22:46
I believe, I believe you're part of what they call the gig economy. Isn't that? Isn't that what they listen to? If you're like, I don't know, try to stay alive. But you know where people right? People are always looking for gigs. Like, they'll they'll right now. It's like, oh, the you know, unemployment is fantastic. Sure. Because someone like Jordan has five jobs making the unemployment rate for less open jobs because of Jordan, then there should be a lot, a lot of other people in that situation. So you've named a few jobs there. I'm not sure about the installation come? Is there an opportunity in there for you to get health insurance with one of them?

Jordan 23:20
Yes. So if I were to be full time at Red Rose, I would get health insurance through them. I'm only part time right now. I am full time at the insulation company. And they do provide BlueCross BlueShield. So I will be looking into that

Scott Benner 23:37
option when the time's right when you when you have to get off and go right to your parents. Which better insurance then?

Jordan 23:43
Yeah, yeah, they have helped New England and it's definitely helped a lot.

Unknown Speaker 23:47
No kidding.

Scott Benner 23:48
Well, it's just interesting that and let me ask you, do you feel like you know, your five jobs right now. So do you have a job of those five that you think I wish this was my forever job? And I'd like to do this, but I'm going to have to go towards that because of the insurance. Do you feel that pressure?

Jordan 24:07
Um, actually, no, I want to get into law enforcement. So I wanna Yeah, so none of these jobs I want to do forever.

Scott Benner 24:21
Okay. What Why? Why, like law enforcement? Can I ask?

Jordan 24:25
I yeah. So I sort of always wanted to be a police officer, ever since I was growing up. I really know why. I just feel as though I want to provide people with safety. I've always been sort of a leader. I played three sports throughout high school. I was always a captain and I would always look out for my teammates. So I was always that leader, that person that made sure everybody's safe, everybody's good to go. So

Scott Benner 24:59
that's actually one of the Steps To do that, then what do you have to? Do? I mean, the police academy, did you do go through college for that? Or is it

Jordan 25:07
you don't have to go to college to be a police officer. But I do have three and a half years of college experience. I just didn't end up getting my degree. I will be going back and getting it. But I just ran into some car insurance issues and issues that I had to start working to make money.

Scott Benner 25:29
So I thought you're gonna say just ran to a curb, but I heard that story already. So yeah, you did. Okay. Well, that's really that's a great thing. And so this is something you're going to be moving towards soon.

Jordan 25:41
Yeah, I actually applied to be a correctional officer. And I'm waiting to hear back from them. It's been quite a while I passed the physical exam to be a correctional officer back in July.

So I'm sort of getting impatient, but

Scott Benner 25:58
maybe a strongly worded email. Right. And the diabetes doesn't get in the way of the idea of being I mean, I know it doesn't. But I'm asking you, you don't you're not seeing any roadblocks.

Jordan 26:09
No, not at all. Yeah, I don't think diabetes stops anybody from doing anything really. So

Scott Benner 26:15
yeah, there's some there's been someone on in the past who's fighting for certain pilot's license for people and actually making real headway. But there were certain I think certain truck drivers, certain trucks, you couldn't drive in the past. I think that's gone now. And then certain certain pilot's license you couldn't hold for, and I don't know, the designations for the certain plates. It's probably passenger planes. But But I think they're even making real inroads in that. And actually, glucose sensing technology is a big part of why people are being able to or people are able to make headway there. Because they're able to well, you know, so that kind of leads me to do you still have that pen that the nurse doesn't know how to use?

Did you still have that pen that the nurse doesn't know how to use?

Jordan 27:12
No, I'm actually on the on the pod dash. Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner 27:18
I think you're the first person I've spoken to. Really? I think it may be true. Yeah.

Jordan 27:23
Wow, that's awesome. Yeah, I love it. So I started. Let's see, it's August. Now. I started the Omni pod in late June. Okay.

Scott Benner 27:35
And you began right away with dash like, so you've never used the, like the second generation PDM?

Jordan 27:41
Nope, just started the dash. Cool.

Scott Benner 27:43
That's excellent. Yeah. So you have basically a small cell phone in your pocket that you can give yourself in some way?

Jordan 27:49
I do. Yep. It's great. The only issue I do have with the dash is if I put it on my thighs, obviously, I sort of forget about it. So when I'm putting on my leggings, or putting on my jeans, I'll run into it. And sometimes it'll just pop off.

Scott Benner 28:06
Oh, okay. So with just with with your site in general, if you don't think about one, you're just you know, you'll get used to that eventually. I think that I think everyone who's had diabetes longer than you just said, Oh, yeah, that that happens. The beginning. Yeah. So you went to insulin pumping? Are you using a glucose sensor? Or no?

Jordan 28:24
I am. I'm on the dexcom. Look at you.

Scott Benner 28:28
Get you to do an ad right now. So when did you find the CGM? Did you find it before or after the pump?

Jordan 28:35
Yes, I found it after the pump. I was still pricking my finger back in July. So I'm very, very, very new to Dexcom. And I actually learned how to use it on my own. So I didn't even go to my endo. I open up the box, read the directions and did my first one on my own. So

Scott Benner 28:56
this is really interesting, because I see this online a lot where people are like, they sent me my stuff, but I'm supposed to wait for the trainer. I have a I haven't I have a you know, some setup with them six weeks from now. I'm like, wait, you know, wait six weeks. And, and then you know, you'll see somebody come into a thread and say, I should just go ahead and put it on or find a YouTube video. It's easy. And I don't disagree with that. It's easy. But some people feel very compelled to like no, they told me to wait. And they wait. Did someone tell you to wait? Or were you would was that not even an issue?

Jordan 29:27
My endo actually told me if I get the dexcom she believes that I will be able to do it myself. So she was like, if you feel comfortable with doing the Dexcom by yourself, definitely do it. If you want to make an appointment, I can make an appointment for you right now. But just do whatever you want to do. And I was like, You know what? I can probably just figure it out. And she was telling me how it sort of works and how I'm supposed to put it on my body. So I was like, You know what, yeah, I can do that just pretty much sounds like my pump.

Scott Benner 29:57
So your generation is fantastic. Because, seriously, because like, you know, just even like you're you're accustomed to things being an app, right? Like just one, you know, one razor thin sliver of light on your cell phone, right? That's, that's the thing that makes this do that. And, and the idea of, you know, going in just getting information from another person, and that's how you can figure something out. It's interesting, because those people I was talking about who seem scared are usually in their 30s. Like, they're usually a little older, they have a kid already. And they're like, Oh, no, there's rules. Someone said this. And this is what we do. I don't know, I don't know what Dexcom or Omnipod, or any of the companies actually say about that. Like, I don't know, if they're kind of bound by the FDA to say you have to have training. Or if your doctor saying No, go ahead. Is the okay to do you don't mean like,

Unknown Speaker 30:49
Yeah,

Scott Benner 30:51
something that's really so you didn't have any trouble though?

Jordan 30:54
Well, when I started the Omnipod, I remember them telling me not to use the Omnipod without the Omnipod trainer, which I actually went to my endos office, and I got five pump classes from my diabetes educator. Okay, so I didn't get an actual Omni pod trainer. It was just five classes with my diabetes educator. And that's pretty much the classes that I needed. Gotcha.

Scott Benner 31:23
That's cool. And you don't run any trouble. You weren't like, oh, gosh, this all went incredibly wrong. You weren't bleeding on the floor. It just all. Just like, you weren't bleeding out yelling, I should have waited for the trainer.

Jordan 31:36
No, thank God, that didn't happen.

Scott Benner 31:39
I actually don't think that could happen. But no, but that's just, uh, it's just, it's I like that. I like the idea of It's okay, so how have you found pumping versus shots.

Jordan 31:50
Um, I love it. I love the fact that I don't really, I'm not really aware of me getting insulin at all times of the day. It's just sort of how I used to be, you know, I didn't really have to think about it. Obviously, when I eat, it's a different story, I'll have to Pre-Bolus and all that. But it's nice to know that I'm getting insulin at all times a day,

Scott Benner 32:14
without having to stop and calculate and react and stuff like that. Right? I think you're just an interesting, you're just an interesting person to speak with. Because you're right in that sweet spot age wise to be able to easily accept technology. And you're just recently diagnosed, you don't know anything about the versions of diabetes that have come before pens. Right. You know, no CGM. You know, boiling your needles. Yeah. Boiling your Yeah. Just as a story to you, it's not a it's not a it's not a real part of this world. And do you feel like you understand your care?

Jordan 32:53
Yes, um, in the beginning, I was very, very, very scared. Obviously. I was worried. And I was like, Mom, like, you need to have me. You have to have my call. Like, I'm loud at all times. Like, I'm gonna call you if anything goes wrong. And obviously, she was like, Oh, yeah, definitely Call me if you need anything. And she actually just couldn't, she couldn't even wait for me to get a CGM. She was like, wait, so there's something that you can get for it monitors your blood sugar. And you can let me know when you're in dangerous ranges. I'm like, Yeah, she's like, Oh, my God, you need to get that right away. So she was super excited when I got my dexcom just because she has access to my graph and stuff. So she can look at my blood sugar, she can check up on me. And she definitely just needed that reassurance that I am. Okay, I'm going to be okay.

Scott Benner 33:50
So it's telling, obviously, about diabetes that at 25 your mother still feels the same way as a parent of a three year old? Yeah, yeah. Just, you know, yes. Stay in the house. And we'll, we'll, I'll just live here until it's over. Right.

Unknown Speaker 34:07
Right. There's no reason to leave.

Jordan 34:09
Right. I actually live in an apartment with my boyfriend. And we're actually in the same unit as my parents. So my parents are just upstairs. If I were to be anywhere else, I think my parents would be more worried about me, you know, because I'm just downstairs they can walk downstairs and I'm right there.

Scott Benner 34:29
Yeah. What borrow a hole through the floor and just jump in real quick if

Unknown Speaker 34:33
there you go. Yep.

Scott Benner 34:35
That's interesting. Hey, that. So you, you you moved out, but basically,

Unknown Speaker 34:41
that basically did it. Yeah.

Scott Benner 34:44
That's interesting. Yeah. How's the boyfriend taking the whole like, so did you live together when you were diagnosed?

Jordan 34:50
Yes, we did. We've lived together for about a year now. Gotcha. I'm a little over a year. I

Scott Benner 34:56
you know me like it. You know, like if you weren't living together He could have been like, Oh, what's that?

Unknown Speaker 35:02
Right? Yeah. I'll call you next week. And

Unknown Speaker 35:06
see you later.

Scott Benner 35:08
I'm assuming you're working more towards a more serious relationship if you're if you're together and living together, and yeah, do you have a feeling for how it impacted him at all?

Jordan 35:18
Yeah, he was very, very, very scared. I know for a fact, he saw me in the hospital and was like, wow, this is really an eye opener for me. And he was really, he was really great. took care of me. He would ask me what I can eat and what I can, what I feel comfortable with eating and he would make sure that I feel as comfortable as possible at all times. It's great. Um, even his parents came to visit me at the hospital. His parents are lovely. And they even provided support for me. So he was absolutely great.

Scott Benner 35:56
They tried it. They didn't like pull him aside and go, Hey, could we get one with a pancreas? That works? Great. Nice. Yeah. I've, I've heard stories before of there have been people on here who, who know that their partner's parents tried to dissuade them from being with them when they die.

Jordan 36:13
That is just so crazy to me. Yeah.

Scott Benner 36:15
And and vice versa, by the way, also just great stories like yours, where everybody's just like, it'll be okay. Well, I'll do it together. Like that kind of thing. Right. But yeah, it's definitely, uh, yeah, it's a mixed bag of the of the responses, you get that I would have to say more of positive than negative, to be perfectly honest. But yeah, still, it threw me off when the first time someone said that. It was like, wait a minute, your mother in law told your husband not to marry you? Yeah. That's crazy. Doesn't she know, that's the opposite of how that works. Your kids always do the opposite of they should have said I'm all for this. It'll be great. Okay. So, and I mean, go ahead. No, no, you.

Jordan 36:55
And I mean, I did have thoughts of me, obviously, I want to have kids, right. And I had thoughts of me ended up having a baby, and what the chances are of them, having diabetes and all of that stuff. And I asked my endo about it, she's like, Look, it's not promised that your kid's gonna have diabetes. And I wouldn't worry at this point. So I would come home. And I'd be like, oh, what if my kid's gonna have diabetes, I don't want my kid to go through this. And my wife was just like, just chill out. If we do have a child that has diabetes, you'll know how to take care of him. Just think about it that way, him or her? So just think about it that way. And I was like, You know what? You're right. I mean, I guess I will know how to take care of them.

Scott Benner 37:41
The perspective is interesting, because, and I referenced him a lot, because on this issue, because it really struck me when he said it, but as a former baseball player who's actually currently with the Phillies, as a manager, or coach, Sam fold, he's been on the show a couple of times said, Yeah, type one his whole life. And I asked him about that he's got four kids. And you could tell him his response, that the vibe of his response was, I'm fine. They'd be fine, too. Like, I live like, I'm a person, I live a life. This is me, there's nothing wrong with me, why would I care if that was them? And it was almost as if he was saying, and this is me inferring from his answer, but I felt like he was saying, to say that I wouldn't want you know, obviously, I don't want anybody to have any kind of roadblocks they don't need in life, but to say that I wouldn't have a kid because I didn't want that child to maybe have diabetes is like saying my life's not valid. Right? Right. And, and I was really touched by that when he said, I don't know that I went into it then. Because I was a little like, Sam folds on the podcast a little excited. But I know him much better now. And I just I go over that a lot. And I think that that I think that you shouldn't have a kid if you have diabetes until that's your answer. Because right i think that it may say more about how you feel about yourself than it would about I don't know maybe I'm wrong, but it's an interesting thing to think about.

Jordan 39:12
I definitely agree with you. I don't think you should have a child if you are thinking the worst for your child, you know, yeah, I think you should always be positive and always think your child is gonna end up better than you even ended up you know what I mean? So

Scott Benner 39:30
yeah, and I do think seriously for your for your own like idea of self confidence and what you think of yourself to them if you can, if you can't imagine a child that is a an image of you and feel good about that. I feel like that might be more about how you feel about what's going on with you than it is about the kid you know, so Exactly. I think you should find find a way to to, to see that that other way to see yourself in a way that is redeemable and worthy. worthy of being you know, photocopied and going on into the world. Right? Yeah, that's all. I just I never thought of having babies photocopying yourself until just now. Do people even photocopy anymore? Is that almost gone?

Unknown Speaker 40:13
It might be

Scott Benner 40:14
like, gosh, okay, so you live in weatherwise? Are you dead?

Jordan 40:19
No, no, no, my dog. Boy. Sorry.

Scott Benner 40:22
Sorry. I didn't know if I should stop the recording. I didn't want to be a witness to anything. Get me out of a court battle right now if the boyfriend just you know, came in the room and watch over the headless. Oh, crap. Let me get out of this. You live in one of the worst places in the world for weather in my opinion. So I got ya. Why did they put Why did they put that city so close to that ocean? I think it's a bad idea. What how close? How close are you to Boston Harbor in that in that part of the

Jordan 40:51
so to Boston, it takes about two hours to get to Boston. So I'm not anywhere near the ocean. But our winters are absolutely awful

Unknown Speaker 41:01
to heart. Terrible.

Scott Benner 41:02
No. My son was in Boston years ago working out in January for he was recruiting for baseball. And it rained all day. It was a horrendous day of rain, right? I mean, we got done. It was an indoor event. Obviously, we kept going back to our hotel. There's inches of water flowing across the ground. And you know, he's exhausted from his day and we go back up to the hotel room and he's like, I'm gonna take a shower, and then I'll just sit here for a little bit. I can get some to eat after that. Yeah, that's fine. So I'm talking to my wife while he's in the shower. And my wife's like, it's gonna snow where you are? And I'm like, No, it can't. Because there's two flowing inches of water on the ground. There's no way snow could and by the time I get off the phone with her, there's six inches of snow on the ground. And I was like, we live. This is the worst place in the world. This is.

Jordan 41:49
Yeah, that's definitely Massachusetts for you.

Scott Benner 41:52
Snow shouldn't be able to start forming on the ground when there's running water on the road. It's all on. Yeah. Something wrong with that. That whole thing should be a beach is what I'm saying.

Unknown Speaker 42:02
Yeah. Yep.

Scott Benner 42:04
Someone made a huge mistake building a building there for I don't know. Anyway, I'm sure it's lovely that people live there probably like Screw you. This is fantastic. But you cheated us out of the Super Bowl. So I hate you. But, but that's fine. I

Unknown Speaker 42:17
don't even I don't

Jordan 42:18
even not even a Patriots fan. I

Scott Benner 42:19
don't even care that much about that. It still sticks with me a little bit. So anyway. All right. Well, I think we've learned a lot about you. And I want to learn a lot about now kind of where you feel like you're headed. So so you're in it just in such an interesting time of your life for people to hear, I think for people with younger children, or maybe people who were diagnosed not in this kind of the sweetest spot of diabetes technology that we're in right now. So, right, you really don't feel any limitations. I mean, you said that you want to do something that's strenuous, and you know, you're gonna have a gun. So that's not like us. You're not like, Hey, I'll take a safe job. And I'll kind of step back from you know, the world a little bit. you've, you've seemed confident about the idea of having children. How are how is management going? So like, let's talk about that first. Are you honeymooning still by any chance?

Jordan 43:13
I am not.

Unknown Speaker 43:15
Did you know?

Jordan 43:16
I was Yeah. I was honeymooning for about a month. It was I would say it was like March. I was honeymooning. Um, but it was only for a very, very, very short time, fortunately. Okay.

Scott Benner 43:30
And so you've had you know, CGM, and and, and for about three months now or so. And do you base your management off that, like, how are you and I talking is one of the things you Google? Did it lead you to this?

Jordan 43:45
Um, I actually found you guys through Spotify. I listened to the podcast, or I listened to podcasts all the time.

I haven't listened to podcasts while I'm at work. I'm not supposed to. But

Scott Benner 43:59
that's fine. Doesn't matter. Right? It's gonna keep you out of your ears, right.

Jordan 44:06
There you go. So I was actually on Spotify. And me being newly diagnosed. I was like, you know, I'm gonna look to see if there's any diabetes podcasts. So I looked up that I found another podcast I didn't really like, I don't remember what it was called.

Scott Benner 44:23
If there's other diabetes by guests that you didn't like, please feel free to name it. Right. And I'm just kidding. No, yeah. Right. So but that's good. You found a couple and you listen through and you chose the one that was right for you. And yeah, that's it. And so what were you hoping to get out of it? Do you think when you started looking?

Jordan 44:38
Well, when I was newly diagnosed, I like I said, I didn't really have much knowledge about the whole diabetes thing. So I was like, I want to hear different stories I want to hear about if people went through the same thing that I did, or how people went about managing their diabetes. So I started looking You guys, and I think it was a story that a young girl was telling about her diagnosis. And I think it was either her her mom that was on the podcast. And I was like, Oh my god, like I can relate to some things they're talking about. And the information was just really helpful. Because I just didn't even know what to do.

Scott Benner 45:25
Right. So this podcast is now your YouTube video. Is that the vibe?

Jordan 45:29
Yeah, this podcast is definitely my go to podcast.

Scott Benner 45:33
I play but I assumed when you reached out, it was a softball question. I know, you're gonna say nice things. But no, I'm, that I'm joking about that. I am I yes, I am joking about that. I checked with myself to make sure I was joking about that. What I was, what I'm interested in is that idea that you can find, like what feels like big, really incredibly difficult to understand information that can seem smaller and digestible. If it's if it's delivered the right bite.

Unknown Speaker 46:03
Right, exactly.

Scott Benner 46:05
Right. And I'm glad that that's how it hit you because it is my intention. And you know, I don't always do what I need to do. So yeah, I guess in going on

Jordan 46:14
the going on the internet, you see all these big words that doctors use, and you don't really even know what they mean. So the internet just sort of scared me. And when I heard your podcast, you guys were just talking about everyday life. And you guys intertwined diabetes in it, you know what I mean? So I could understand you guys more than I could understand, understand the internet. So it was just sort of a comfort thing. I was like, Okay, this will be cool. I can listen to this, and I can get used to this whole diabetes thing.

Scott Benner 46:48
Is it exciting to think that you'll end up doing that for thousands of other people? By Yeah, very exciting. Yeah. I'm happy for you like you're like closing the loop. Or I shouldn't say that. You're coming full circle, I guess is the

Unknown Speaker 47:03
right. Yeah.

Scott Benner 47:06
I'm sorry. I'm as you're trying to talk about diabetes. There's four different people messaging me on different social media things about their stuff. And I'm like, it's vibrating under my leg to the point where I'm like, I should look maybe though, maybe there's a tornado coming and my phone is trying to tell me it's a turns out I don't live anywhere near where there's tornadoes, so it's fine.

Unknown Speaker 47:23
Yeah, you're from New Jersey, right? Yeah,

Scott Benner 47:25
there's really no tornadoes here. Cuz I'm okay. Yeah, good. Yeah, I'll be good. I just, you know, when your phone starts really buzzing, and you get that feeling like you're like, maybe something is happening. I should know. Yeah. I don't want to be the last one to know that the town's on fire. Right? I don't want to be the last one out of the town. It's probably just somebody disagreeing with me about something instead, you said this, and you're wrong.

Unknown Speaker 47:50
doing my best over here, it helped George a cut me a break. Right.

Scott Benner 47:54
Exactly. Well, no, I I'm, I think about your situation and how quickly you sort of matriculated through it. Because you're, you're in a really interesting spot right now, where you have stability in your life around diabetes, and it's and bigger ideas around your life in less than a year. Right. And that's incredibly exciting to me to think that you were able to go from feeling like a new person, which meant, you know, everything in my life is new and different and scary and raw, to be this comfortable person that you are now, eight months later. I'm just super excited for you about that.

Jordan 48:32
Thank you. Thank you, I appreciate that. And yeah, at the beginning, I definitely didn't think I would be at the point I am now. I definitely thought that I would mourn a little bit more than I did. And have some more grief. But I sort of with all the support that I had for my family. I felt as though I was going to be okay from the start. Obviously, I was sort of upset in the beginning. Obviously, I didn't want diabetes, but I had to take into consideration that this isn't going away ever. So I'm going to either have to deal with it, or I won't be living anymore. Right?

Scott Benner 49:13
Yeah. And I think that's actually an important step that concept of look this is here now. Right You know, I can't ignore it. I used to talk about it in the past about like, you know, getting a bill at the beginning of the month and right and not opening it That's stupid. Like it's

Unknown Speaker 49:29
Yeah, because it's still gonna be they're still

Scott Benner 49:30
in there like it you can't just ignore it like I mean you could could put like a deck of cards over top of it but it's still just the bill under a deck of cards. So Exactly. You just have to you have to just go Okay, this is it. I'll dive in. I'll make the best of it that I can and look and look what you did. You found so many good avenues for yourself that there wasn't a ton of bad and had you had you not look down those roads, you would have been stuck standing still imagining the worst Right. And that really is, I'll tell you, it's, I don't know if it sounds trite or Pollyanna or what, but I really think that worry is an incredible waste of imagination. Because you really are just making up things in your head when you're worrying. Yeah, you have no real not I mean, you know, like, like, don't get me wrong, you're in the room, there's zombies outside. It's fine. Go ahead and worry. But you know, don't sit in the world where there are no zombies and worry about when they're coming. Because, right, they're not real, you know. So it just is it happens to people. And I think some people are more genetically predisposed to that worry. And some people aren't, you know, as much. Yeah, I don't know if it breaks down gender lines, or if it breaks down age, or if your past experiences, I'm sure all these things have something to do with it. I know, I feel very, I have a real caregivers mentality, like I always had always had my whole life like I you know, it's just in a situation where my dad left my mom, when my brothers were little, my mom went to work, it was sort of my job, that kind of like in, you know, to me, like, you have that feeling of like, these people are counting on me. And yeah, and then you get married, you're like, oh, it'll all start over again. And then my wife and I had a situation where she just had a better job opportunity. So it's like, oh, I'll stay home with the baby. Oh, I'm still doing this caregiver thing. Like, you know, and now I, I feel like that towards the people listening to the podcast, which is, it's very fulfilling, and it's incredibly not fair. Some days, you know, like, there there are days when I when I'm talking to people that I don't know, because I can't really stand the idea of what happens if they don't get the information that they need. Right. So I it's my huge goal in mind that the podcast handle that. So I can just reach all those people without talking to them one at a time. Right? Because that's not going to be a valuable way for me to help anybody with IBS. things a little too long. And you're just get one when you're done, which is still incredibly It's amazing. Still, like, don't get me wrong, like the seat to talk to talk to somebody on a Wednesday, and have them send a graph that looks like a horror show. And then right on Friday morning, they're like, Oh, my God, everything's better. I'm like, Yeah, I mean, it's just started, but I know it feels better. I'm excited for you. And they're on a better path, then they're, they're sort of on their way, which is nice. Yeah. But I like the idea that it reached you like, even in such a crazy way, like Spotify. Like, I remember when the company that hosted my podcast is like you can get on Spotify. Now, if you want. I was like, I mean, do I care? And I was like, Alright, so like, there was a day that I spent doing stuff like back and stuff that you'll never know about the podcast, where I sat there and thought, I wonder if anybody will even listen this way. And like years later, I found you.

Jordan 52:55
It's very Yeah, very, I did. So excited. Definitely. It's definitely helped me just hearing all the stories and all of the advice

Scott Benner 53:05
that you guys sort of talked about, it's definitely very helpful. I'm so glad it's there anything that's gone horribly wrong, that you've learned from? Like, have you had any moments where you're like, wow, screwed that way up.

Jordan 53:18
I'm not really, um, I haven't really had a blood sugar that's gone above. Probably, like 300 300 definitely, like critical. Um, but obviously, me being new, I still get into the, like, low to hundreds. But I've haven't gotten to anywhere near 300, which is really, really good. And I'm still sort of I work out a lot. And I have a personal trainer. We do like CrossFit type workouts. So it's very hard for me to monitor my blood sugar and either do a Temp Basal rate, or if I'm lifting heavy weights, I actually don't do a Temp Basal rate at all because my blood sugar goes up. Yeah, so it was definitely hard in that aspect to get used to working out in different workouts do different things to my blood sugar, and so forth. So the deck schrems definitely helped me out with that. I guess.

Scott Benner 54:22
It would it would be very difficult without it for certain.

Unknown Speaker 54:25
Yes.

Scott Benner 54:26
Did you see just the other day we I put up an episode. It's a new pro tips episode about exercise.

Unknown Speaker 54:33
Oh, you did? I didn't even see it. Yeah. Okay,

Scott Benner 54:34
about all the things you were just talking about. And in way in depth with Jenny. So. Oh, awesome. I enjoy that. definitely

Unknown Speaker 54:40
have to listen to that one. Yeah.

Scott Benner 54:42
So what is um, so what sucks? I don't I didn't ask you if it was okay to if you don't want to share you. You absolutely can. But what does success look like? Like what is your agency you're shooting for? What kind of variability right with vigor, standard deviation, all that kind of stuff that Yeah,

Jordan 54:56
looking at? Well, when I was at the hospital, my age See, was that a 13.6? That's when I was in DK. Um, and then in, let's see, what did I see my endo? I think I saw my endo in June, early June. And my a one C was at a 6.4.

Scott Benner 55:17
Wow.

Jordan 55:18
Yeah, that's, that's, that's wonderful. So it was a huge turnaround. She looked at me and she was like, You don't know how good this is? I didn't really even like, know, because I didn't really know the whole concept of Avon see and what it should be what it shouldn't be. And she was just like, you cut your agency in half. And I was like, Okay, cool. And she was like, this is really really, really good, though. I was like, Okay, awesome. So I thought I was on the right track in managing it. Well, which I was.

Scott Benner 55:53
That's excellent. And then oh, what do you think the, like, if I told you, you can only give, I don't know, two or three ideas from the podcast to another person. What do you think you'd give them?

Unknown Speaker 56:07
Um,

Jordan 56:12
I mean, if I were to talk to someone with Type One Diabetes, actually, you know what? My college friend. She was a softball player. I was a lacrosse player in college. We were in the same year, same age. And we were very similar. I got along really well with her. And we stayed in touch after we left college. And she actually messaged me, I would say, two, three weeks after I was diagnosed, saying she was diagnosed with Type One Diabetes.

Scott Benner 56:47
That's random.

Jordan 56:49
Yeah. So weird. so crazy. But yeah, she was diagnosed. And I actually told her about this podcast. I was like, Do you listen to podcasts? She's like, No, I don't really listen to podcasts that often. And I was like, well, there's this one diabetes podcast that really helped me. So I told her about it. And I was like, they have doctors on the episode that talked about diabetes and advice and all that stuff. And I was like, they literally cover everything with life, diabetes, everything. And I told her, this podcast isn't really like a diabetes overload. You guys don't like, talk about diabetes, the whole hour of the episodes, you know what I mean? Like, you guys get off into different topics, and you know, sort of overload diabetes, you know,

Scott Benner 57:44
oh, I appreciate that. Because I, I was very early on in the beginning, I was like, how I mean, how could this like sustain? Like, like, how could How could I? I thought about myself, like, would I, I always kind of tell people, like you could have the secret of life. And if you if you tell it the wrong way, or your audio is bad, people won't listen, you know, they're gonna be like, I'm not listening through static to find out the secret to life. You know, I am not going to listen to you know, and, you know, I've got a couple reviews I think would disagree with me, but like inane banter that goes on forever, that's about nothing. You know, like, I think that this should be about something, it should be valuable. And it should be entertaining, and it should be light. Because, because I could sit down and have a different conversation with you right now. That's super serious. And I would, you know, I mean, I don't know how you'd get through six or seven minutes of that before you you know, as a person listening, you'd think I already live this life. I don't need to be right. I don't need to be hit with it. It'd be like if I was depressed, and I let somebody pour a cup of depression over my head, you know, like, I don't need more. Thank you got plenty right here. Right. I just think the way you described it, like I was hoping you might say like, Oh, I tell people like you know, better to stop below than be higher or something like that. But just your the way you characterize the show was so nice. I was like a little misty. I thought I I can't even speak about it that like if you asked me to describe the show to you. I wouldn't have done as such a complete and loving job is you did. I don't think I could speak about the podcast the way you just did.

Jordan 59:18
Well, I do love it. So I appreciate that.

Scott Benner 59:22
But yeah, so all right, we have a couple of minutes left. You're gonna be the perfect person to ask this question of, okay, I've never said this on the podcast before it comes up in my personal life all the time. And I'm and whoever wrote the review that called me both egotistical and elitist. That hurt. I don't feel elitist at all. I do feel a little egotistical sometimes. But

Jordan 59:46
everybody can. Yeah,

Scott Benner 59:47
I guess I okay. But fair enough. It's someone's feelings. But I'm trying to make a fun thing here for a second. So, in my private life, when I speak to people who listen to the podcast privately, they are Often starstruck in a way that trust me, completely baffles me. Because I don't obviously see that about myself in any way. Right? It baffles more my family. So if I'm on the phone with someone, and you can kind of hear their voice come through, I look over and my wife's eyes have rolled straight up the back of her head. They're down by her ass now they've rolled so far around, you know, and, and she's just like, why are people excited to talk to you? Like, I don't know, just let them have their feelings. You know? So are you. Is it exciting to be on this podcast?

Jordan 1:00:39
Oh, yeah, it's definitely exciting. When we first began the call, it was kind of weird. Like you saying my name, you know, like you talking to me? Because I usually hear you talking to other people. I usually listen to you saying other people's names. But now that you're talking to me, it's like a whole new story.

Scott Benner 1:00:58
It's it's very interesting to me, like you should be on my side of it. Where I'm like, sad for you that you feel that? No, I'm not sad. It's very nice. First of all, but But um, do you in your personal life ever speak to me out loud?

Jordan 1:01:13
I'm not really know, I think

Scott Benner 1:01:16
that shows real stability. Because a lot of people say I talked to you in my living room or in my car. And I'm thinking, I don't know that that's something you'd want to be sharing with other people. But

Jordan 1:01:26
But I understand yours. I mean, I just love listening. I don't know there's something about like your voice that's like calming, you know. Thank you. Um, so I do like listening to you. Do you

Scott Benner 1:01:40
think I think you have a lot of helpful things? Do you think I'm working too hard on this diabetes thing? Should I be doing one of those? Um, soothing podcasts instead? What are those called? Do you know what they're called?

Jordan 1:01:50
Yeah, the I know, you're talking about, um, like the relaxation

Scott Benner 1:01:54
capital word for it, though. Hold on, we're going to get we've got Google, you figured out how to use it in some time. I can't figure out what this is. All right. Come on. How is it not? It's like, Are people listening right now are like idiots this,

Jordan 1:02:09
but yeah, I don't. I know. I can't even think of it.

Scott Benner 1:02:13
This is so absurd. We had a real nice moment here. Like, I saw a person on television the other day, and it was their job. Oh, my God, it's right. It's right on the tip of my tongue. It's not an S. Oh, my God, this is terrible. msnbc came up and I typed that mess. That's not helpful. Google. Help Jesus. Figure it out. My kids would know. Because they're Yeah. Right. But I could maybe do that. I could maybe just be like one of those people. It's like, Jordan, it's time to go to bed. Close your dream. Breathe deeply. Well, those things get mad downloads. And then I don't have to know anything about diabetes to do those. Oh, yeah. So you've, it's really super interesting to me, because this podcast has been up since the beginning the very beginning of 2015. And we're talking now in the middle of 2019. And when you refer to the podcast, you say you guys, so do you think do you think of Jenny, when you're saying that? Are you thinking of like a royal? Like we like the idea of like an entity on the other side of your earbuds? How did you think I sort of

Jordan 1:03:25
Yeah, I sort of think of you and Gemini as like a Power Team. Because I do listen to those a lot just because I do want to hear her insight. Of course, just because I'm so new. So I definitely want to hear like a doctor's perspective of everything that I'm thinking about. But obviously, I still want to hear you talking with her and you relating actual real life to the medical field. So

Scott Benner 1:03:51
I have this soothing voice, by the way, just for clarity, right? I know you mean this, but Jenny is a certified diabetes educator. She's not a doctor. Okay. Yeah. And she's, you know, she has diabetes has had it for a very long time. She's a certified nutritionist. She's got a whole bunch of things. She's like, you know, went to school for Yeah, that's sort of like my diabetes educator. She's a nutritionist. She has cooking classes at the Medical Center I go to and stuff. So that's cool. Exactly. Like my diabetes educator, my heart. I'm so happy that I met Jenny because she and I think about diabetes. So similarly, but yet when we speak about it, the words are all different. And so I think we're a really good blend. You know, when we

Unknown Speaker 1:04:33
Yeah, you guys definitely are.

Scott Benner 1:04:34
Yep. I appreciate that. I appreciate so much about this. That it's, uh, it wouldn't be it would take me another hour to tell you exactly how much I appreciate it. But uh,

Jordan 1:04:44
Oh, my God. I appreciate being on here. So,

Scott Benner 1:04:47
thank you. If we say appreciate one more time, we'll have to name the podcast. No, Jordan Scott. Appreciate each other. And Jenny, right. All right. So we're done. Now. I'm so I don't want to curse because I'd like to try to leave this in. But I'm so pissed that I can't think of the word for I know you'll think about it later today and it'll come up but

Unknown Speaker 1:05:11
doesn't help us now. Join me now right now

Scott Benner 1:05:14
we're recording this is what's real. The real world doesn't exist when this microphone goes off. Okay, because no one can hear it. Damn it. No joking about that. So I'll tell you. I'm gonna give a minute. Yeah, very cool. Arden met Tom Holland this past weekend. Oh my god. Super excited. Arden was 15 year old Arden who lobbied her orthodontist to get her braces off three weeks early so that she can meet Tom Holland without her brace My God. Got that accomplished. decided that the ombre she had from when she was little made her look young went back had the had the fake color, stripped out of her hair to go back to her natural color was, you know, three or four times went back and forth. I'm just gonna wear a spider man shirt. No, I'm gonna wear a nice outfit. I want to look good. My picture one of the fat. I mean, all right. She goes, I might have to have her come on and tell us she will never I can never get her to come on the podcast, but maybe she would love that. I asked her and she's like, No, she did consider She's a friend who has type one. And I think maybe he wants to do it with her sometime. So maybe I'll just maybe one day I'll put them in front of microphones and and let them talk to each other. I won't even be in the room. We'll see what happens. There you go. But but so she goes in she's got this big plan. Now keep clear that there are thousands of girls my daughter's age at this thing. Who I believe all think that with the 30 seconds they're going to have with Tom has their pictures taken. He will marry them. Right right. Like I believe that teenage girl I'm pretty sure they all are like she's told me recently still. It's been days. She's like, I got Russia now. They're so fast. It's unfair to Tom he won't know how great I am. And he didn't get to know me and I was like, yeah, so she goes in with this big plan. She wants to she wants to tell him that her and her friend who are there have a bet that they'd like her to be able to remember his name from the time the pictures taken two hours later when they'll get to meet him for like a signature and autograph on this picture. And so Arden gets her friend goes first does like some like handshake the Tom Holland does that. He had perfected my daughter's like I was gonna try the handshake can't do that. Now. So to now Arden's like she's reached. She's got I'll tell him definitely tell him about the bat. She gets so starstruck, just doesn't come out. And she starts telling you about like, my friend, I have a bet that you can remember our names, and he's like, Oh, I'm not gonna be able to remember your name. And she's like, well, then as the security people, they she's already taking the photo, or shoving her through to the other side, because poor guys gonna be taking pictures for you know, ever. she yells. Remember that? I'm a diabetic.

Unknown Speaker 1:07:51
Oh, that she gets outside. And she goes, awesome. Why did I say that?

Scott Benner 1:07:58
And I said, I don't know. Why did you say that? Just I was just trying to say something I thought would be memorable for the next time I saw him. Oh, the whole day. She's just like, why did I say that? But not that she cares that she has diabetes? She said, She's just like, why didn't I just say like, my name were anything.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:15
Right? I bet he'll remember her though.

Scott Benner 1:08:17
Well, then she so made herself uncomfortable about it through the rest of the day, that when she went to get the signature, I'm like, are you gonna say hey, I'm the crazy person who yelled, I'm a diabetic.

Unknown Speaker 1:08:27
I'm the crazy diabetic. And

Scott Benner 1:08:29
she goes, You know, I don't think it's gonna be good. If I remind him of that. I was like, probably not. They're probably looking for you right now to kick you out of here, you know. And so she just kind of quietly went by. And she's like, the worst part of this is that because I was busy, like, trying to remember what to say, I didn't hug him. And I was like, Oh, so she's getting her autograph. And he's like, Hey, where are you from? And she's telling him and everything. And he's like, well, thanks for calling. And I don't know what else they said. And then she just goes, can I get a hug? And? And he's like, Yeah, sure. And he like, gets up and leans over the table and hugs her. And then we got outside of the thing. And I looked at it as like, she's gonna be happy for like a year. Like she was thrilled to see Spider Man. It's hard. Oh,

Jordan 1:09:09
my God. Yeah. That is so cool.

Scott Benner 1:09:13
It was But anyway, if you need people to remember you, and you just want to scream at them. I'm a diabetic. Maybe that will.

Jordan 1:09:20
Yeah, I will remember that. And it's new to me, too. So it's like, it's new news to me. So I'm just gonna yell it out.

Scott Benner 1:09:27
You'll be super, super excited. I just was so in the end, I'm telling you the story because I just it was it was just I was very proud that whatever my wife and I have done over the last couple of years, that she wasn't in any way, like, obstructed by saying out loud in front of what really was throngs of people. I have diabetes. Like she just she was not put off by it at all. And I just hope, I hope, I hope most people can live like that, like in a way Yeah. They're just not right. You know, they're not. They're not ashamed.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:03
So right,

Scott Benner 1:10:04
Jordan, I thank you very much. I am going to jump in the shower, and then come back and record an episode with Jenny.

Jordan 1:10:12
Awesome. Well, thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. Really

Scott Benner 1:10:15
appreciate you being on Take care.

Unknown Speaker 1:10:17
Take care. Nice to meet you as well.

Scott Benner 1:10:22
Hey, huge thanks to Jordan for coming on the show and doing such a great job telling her story. Thanks also to Dexcom and Omni pod for sponsoring this episode of the Juicebox Podcast, please go to my omnipod.com forward slash juice box. And dexcom.com Ford slash juice box to learn more about the sponsors. Also, a s m r is what I was thinking of just a few moments ago in the recording. It stands for Autonomous Sensory Meridian Response. And there are these recordings mostly on YouTube, where people either whisper or like scratch their nails on things like I don't know all about it. But I'm telling you, it's huge. But I'm not whispering into this microphone. I think it would just be weird if I was like,

Unknown Speaker 1:11:20
Oh,

Scott Benner 1:11:26
I'd like you to relax so you can sleep? I don't think that would be a good use of my time. Or should I be like a deep voice? ASMR? No, that's how it works. I can't just be like, hello, how are anyway, obviously I wouldn't know what to say. This has gone on long enough, don't you think? Anyway, ASMR is what I was trying to think of. It's sort of meaningless, but you know.

Okay, that's all I got for you. It's now 1145. And I need to go to sleep. I genuinely Hope you enjoyed this episode of the podcast as much as I enjoyed making it, I really had a good time talking to Jordan. Thank you so much for listening to the show. And if you're still listening now you must be a huge fan. So this is why I put this information right here. I've launched a webpage called juice box docs.com. It's juicebox D o c s juicebox docs.com. The goal of that is to create a list of endocrinologist and diabetes educators, people who listeners of the show are using it and a lot of trying to put together a list of agile, smart, tech friendly, savvy juicebox friendly kinds of doctors because I get a lot of requests from people about you know a doctor in this area or this area. So if you've got one of those great Doc's send me an email with all the information so go to juicebox Doc's dot com First, see the information I'm looking for. Click on the link, send me your doc, and we'll put them in but only if they're great. They come great. If they're not great. We don't want to share interesting and if you need a great doctor, endocrinologist, certified diabetes educator etc. Check out juicebox Doc's calm. Also, I want to thank Alan, who told me that when I'm talking about diabetes, pro tip calm. Sometimes it sounds like there's an S on the end and there's not. He's diabetes pro tip calm. That's a webpage where all the diabetes pro tip episodes are collected in one place for easy listening and sharing. Thank you very much Alan for sending me that note. Everybody, have a great day. I will see you soon.