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Scott Benner 0:04
You sent a nice simple email and it said Hi, first really enjoy your podcast started listening a couple months ago, I was diagnosed last year in 2018 with a one C of 12 and a half when I was three months pregnant more, unfortunately, due to the undiagnosed diabetes, and as a result of the crazy high blood sugars in the early stages of the pregnancy, we lost our baby. So this is incredibly sad. I mean, who gets Type One Diabetes like right when they're pregnant? Like you don't I mean, like you would think that could never happen. Except Sam. The giveaway I did just the other day was won by a woman who found out she had type one, four days before she found out she was pregnant.

Unknown Speaker 0:44
Oh, wow. So apparently, as I say,

Unknown Speaker 0:47
you can set your diabetes whenever.

Unknown Speaker 0:49
Yeah.

Scott Benner 0:51
So you know, you talk here a little bit about the loss of your child and and what you figured out and then you said, You know, I now have an agency of five, you know, you're in range, and you're two months pregnant. So you call it you know, bah, bah, bah, email goes on. And I think you're just pretty much emailing me to say hi, I like the podcast, and thank you. Yeah. And then I email you back. So here's an idea, Sam, what if? What if you came on every time like every trimester, and we walked through your pregnancy on the podcast, and you because I assume you're a glutton for punishment, or you have a lot of free time? not exactly sure what your situation is. But you said yes. So thank you very, very much for that. Hello, and welcome to Episode 259 of the Juicebox Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by Dexcom. And dancing for diabetes, you can go to dexcom.com, forward slash juicebox. Or dancing for diabetes.com. That's dancing the number for diabetes.com to find out more. And you know what, while I'm announcing things here, if you go to my Facebook page bold with insulin, we just started a private community group where listeners can talk about what they hear on the podcast. So if that's something you think you'd be interested in, go check it out. There are links in the show notes to Dexcom dancing for diabetes, and my Facebook page. Today's episode is the beginning of another series within the podcast. This one should go four episodes, including this one. Today, we're going to hear from Samantha. Samantha has type one diabetes, and she is currently 11 weeks pregnant. Unlike other episodes, you'll hear these in real time, meaning I will put them out as soon as I record them so that you can keep abreast of Samantha's pregnancy. So this one was recorded just the other day. And now you're hearing it pretty much in real time. Samantha will be back after her second and third trimester to report on how that's going. And she's going to come back after her baby's born. As a matter of fact, she's even going to announce in the next episode, the sex of the baby.

Samantha 2:51
Hello, my name is Samantha. I have had Type One Diabetes for a year and a half. I am 24 years old, and I am currently 11 weeks pregnant.

Scott Benner 3:05
Thank you for doing this.

Unknown Speaker 3:06
Thank you so much for asking really nice.

Scott Benner 3:08
It was such a wonderful opportunity to you know, sort of keep a diary about it.

Samantha 3:14
Yeah, and I think as much information as possible out there, because being pregnant with type one is terrifying. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's terrifying, even if you didn't go through what I went through. So

Scott Benner 3:27
let's figure out a little bit about what you went through. You said you were diagnosed in 2018. You were 23 years old, I'm assuming. Yeah,

Unknown Speaker 3:35
I was right before I turned 24.

Unknown Speaker 3:39
Now was right before

Samantha 3:40
Yeah, right before? No. Right before I turned 23. Sorry.

Scott Benner 3:43
Right before you turn 23. Okay. In the family, complete surprise

Unknown Speaker 3:48
how it was a complete surprise.

Samantha 3:52
Now afterwards, I think like I had a great grandfather or something that had type one, but not a family member that I knew or was ever in contact with. So it wasn't really something that we ever thought about.

Scott Benner 4:08
Yeah, so enough generations back and far enough removed from the people we all know really well that you aren't walking around thinking, Oh, I wonder if I'll get diabetes one day.

Samantha 4:16
Yeah, exactly. I think the the only really connection I had to is my sister's boyfriend has type one. So I knew I didn't, but I still I still didn't really know about it. Because I don't know. I didn't have it. It was just a thing.

Scott Benner 4:30
I grew up with one of my best friends had type one when we were kids. And it was probably two or three weeks after our son was diagnosed where I remember when I remember that he had diabetes. Yeah, it wasn't something then that really didn't really speak about it that much. To be perfectly honest. Yeah, and the management style was so different that you didn't really even really notice it that much, you know, because he kind of just injected insulin twice a day and didn't test his blood sugar and, you know, he said

Samantha 5:00
Yeah, well, the way the way I was diagnosed was actually a surprise to because so we found out that I was pregnant. And usually the doctors don't have you come in until you're like eight weeks or so. And so on that eight weeks appointment, we came in, and they did an ultrasound, and then they took bloodwork, but usually for your first set of bloodwork, they don't test your blood sugar or anything like that. And I guess a mistake was made where the nurse filling out the form on the computer accidentally clicked, where they tested a one see, like two weeks later, because I was like 10 weeks pregnant when we actually found out, I got a call from my doctor, like early Monday morning. And she was kind of freaking out. She was like, I'm on vacation. But I'm calling you because I think you have gestational diabetes, and you need to go in to see a doctor like now. I was like, Okay, and so we went in to see a high risk pregnancy doctor. And she was like, I don't know why you're here. You clearly don't have gestational diabetes. I'm not even sure if these are your blood results.

Scott Benner 6:17
Okay, so let me stop you there. Why did she Why did the Second Doctor not believe that you had diabetes?

Samantha 6:25
He said that because I was thin. He's like, I don't see any reason why you would have gestational diabetes right now. And that's not something that usually develops until later. And since I was so early in the pregnancy, she was like, if you have diabetes, that's type one. Okay. And at that point, we were like, Oh,

Scott Benner 6:41
I see. So this doctor got to the right answer the wrong way.

Samantha 6:46
Yeah. But she was still kind of like, Yeah, but she was like, I don't like we need to retest your blood? Because I don't know if like, maybe they just mixed up your results with somebody else. Because I feel like you should have known or something by now.

Scott Benner 7:01
Some interesting. ends up you do have type one. Yeah. How far into the pregnancy is this?

Samantha 7:09
I think we were and 10 weeks, 10 or 11 weeks. That's kind of where I am right. Now, when

Scott Benner 7:15
we finally found out were you at the point where you told people yet or were you kind of Yeah, we'll tell you for three months.

Samantha 7:22
We told Yeah. We always told our family and like we told our best friends. I think I told my work because I knew I was going to have to miss work for appointments and stuff. But we didn't. That's kind of all we really told it wasn't like a big announcement thing.

Scott Benner 7:40
Just the people who you know, you either really wanted to tell her I needed to tell what is your understanding of the impact on the diabetes on the baby at that point, like when it's starting to happen you realize you're a onesies incredibly high to somebody immediately say to you, we have to do something about this right away, or what's the what's the initial reaction,

Samantha 7:59
a doctor, she, she's my doctor now. And we went back and forth whether we're going to use her again, because she's very straightforward. And like, she just tells you how it is. And when you're like dealing with being diagnosed with type one is just a lot but she like wasn't going to hold my hand through it. So she just pretty much told us the most important time for like the baby's development is the first eight weeks. And since my blood sugar's were like over 600 are crazy like that. And also when I was first in my early pregnancy, I was craving Sonic slushies. We were going to Sonic, like every day. So I can't even imagine and I would eat I was like a carb eater. But I can't even imagine like, what my blood sugar's were on a daily basis. I'm surprised I didn't pass out or something. But um, so she told us that that's the most important time and there was a high chance of there something being wrong with the baby's development. And we were kind of just being hopeful, because she kind of there was like a little bit of hope. Like, if I got everything under control, then maybe we could save the pregnancy. So I got like really crazy with my diabetes management.

Scott Benner 9:13
What kind of technology do you have? Or what are you using?

Samantha 9:16
Well, when I first I was diagnosed, they gave me syringes and vials. And I went home and I started doing research on my own because I hadn't even seen an endo yet. So I was just seeing the high pregnancy, high risk pregnancy doctor, those doing research and I was like, oh, there's these things called pens. That seems a lot easier. So I emailed my doctor and had her write me a prescription for pen. But I was doing MDI for a while, like through my whole pregnancy and I did that and they got me on a Dexcom within like a month of finding out because they said it was really important that I was able to see my blood sugar's on my phone, or and just like not have two fingers. All the time since I was pregnant. So I did dexcom and MDI, and I recently got an omni pod like, last October,

Scott Benner 10:09
I'm struck while you're talking about this, about, like, I can remember the pressure I felt, and I understand the pressure that other people tell me about about the idea of like, I, I've been diagnosed, or my kids been diagnosed. And now I need to figure out how to get this low variability, you know, quote, unquote, as normal as possible blood sugar as fast as I can, like, I'm supposed to figure all this out, or accept it, it's not incredibly easy to figure out. It's not like, it's not like you just have to put your ducks in a row. And then it just works, right. I mean, we all know how difficult it is to figure out the timing of insulin and Pre-Bolus. Singing.

Unknown Speaker 10:43
Yeah, the variable cannot really tell you a lot.

Scott Benner 10:46
They don't tell you any of that. But what I'm saying is that while all this is coming to light in your life, you're also thinking in the back of your head, I'm assuming, right? Like every second, I don't figure this out, is really dangerous to the baby.

Samantha 10:59
Yeah, I everything I was doing was for the baby. I didn't really, I didn't even think about it being for me until really, I mean it really even even after that, like after we lost a pregnancy, it was just making sure my body was ready to have a baby eventually. So I haven't really got to the point where I'm doing it for me.

Unknown Speaker 11:21
I understand.

Samantha 11:23
Kind of pressure, probably a lot of emotion, too. And so when it when something didn't go the way you wanted it to go with your blood sugar. Can you and I don't want to dwell on this too long. But can you share a little bit with me about what that felt like internally? Yeah, well, the the like, the weekend after or two weekends after I got diagnosed, we had a trip planned to Seattle. And so we had we had gone to Seattle. And I remember like, trying my best to, like deal with not being at home, eating and eating out. And every time my blood sugar, because I was still having high blood sugars. I didn't know what I was doing. So when I was like, over 200, it was like, I remember, like breaking down a lot. Because I was freaking out that I was doing something to the baby and making things worse. And it was just it was just a lot of pressure. I've already a stressed out person.

Scott Benner 12:17
Not only that, but it's a very unfair thing stacked on top of another very unfair thing, you know, and then the pressure of these decisions I'm making aren't just now for me, they're for another thing, another living thing, you know, and I'm, I'm in this situation plus, plus, Sam. And is it Samantha like Samantha Sam,

Unknown Speaker 12:37
I like to

Scott Benner 12:39
submit plus, thank you for saying that. But plus, plus Samantha, you put a sonic out of business.

Unknown Speaker 12:45
Yeah.

Scott Benner 12:47
Right. And all these people can't get their cheeseburgers anymore. And it's really because of not buying this slushies every day.

Samantha 12:52
I know how far into that pregnancy until you had the miscarriage? Um, well, we found out around at like 20 weeks is when they can like do the whole anatomy scan. And we found out that in her head, she had a lot of fluid and I can't think of the word of what that is. It starts with an H and it's a long word.

Scott Benner 13:17
Is it hydrocephalus II?

Samantha 13:18
Yes, I can never remember how to pronounce it. So I don't even try, I just say she had a lot of water in her head. So her brain was not forming the way that it should have been in it was like pretty much wasn't for me at all. So about 2425 weeks, we lost the pregnancy and we had to go through the full process. It was a lot and

Scott Benner 13:44
I have no frame of reference for this. And intellectually All I can say is that it feels comforting to me that know that the to know that the body knows when a pregnancy is just so on viable that it does, you know, naturally I guess what the best thing is for for the baby. Yeah, and I can't but I still can't imagine what that's like I if you're open to talking about it, you can but I'm not going to ask you any direct questions about what it's like to go through that.

Samantha 14:16
I lost a child. So it was because we like we already knew because we still thought we could save it. So we knew what she was she was going to be a girl we had a name picked out. We bought things because we still had the hope. I mean, we didn't like we weren't thinking that anything was gonna happen like that. So we were invested in. I mean, I was five, six months pregnant. So I was we were thinking that we're pretty much there. So it was it was devastating. I had a I had a hard time for a while and when that time of the year came up again this year it was hard but for the way that we're looking at it or at least I try to look at it as That without her who knows when I would have been diagnosed, and who knows how I would have been diagnosed, and maybe I would have gone into DK and like, gone into a coma or something, and it could have been a lot worse and I could have died. There's so many stories about people not being diagnosed correctly or soon enough. So she's kind of my guardian angel. Now,

Scott Benner 15:23
you have to look for the good news, a situation like this right? Or they don't want you

Unknown Speaker 15:27
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Scott Benner 15:42
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I feel like we had to talk about that to set the stage for what's happening. Well, I don't want to dwell in in that because there's a lot of good news for you.

Unknown Speaker 16:11
Mm hmm.

Scott Benner 16:11
How long did you wait before you started to try to get pregnant again,

Samantha 16:16
just over a year and a couple months, we waited Okay, from when we lost her

Scott Benner 16:21
right? From the time that you lost the first baby until you decided to try again is about a year now. Did you use that year to try to understand your diabetes? Is that what you were doing then?

Samantha 16:32
Um, well, by the time I went to Well, yeah, I was trying to use it to manage my diabetes. From when I was diagnosed, my a Wednesday was 12.5. And then, three months later, when I got checked again, it was 5.8. So I kind of like was trying to get the hang of things. And then it was just kind of figuring things out and making sure that everything was okay, and I could eat what I want. And like that was a big thing to my husband. And I went through this whole thing where we were standing at the grocery store. And I started crying because I was like, I don't know what I can eat here. And I was I was freaking out about that. So it was kind of just figuring out how I can eat what I want to eat, but still keep the numbers that I want to see.

Scott Benner 17:22
And were you dealing with the I'm assuming you had an endocrinologist at that point. Yeah, right. And but were you also with like in discussions with the OB about what they wanted for? Like as far as a one seeing control for your neck?

Samantha 17:37
Yeah. So after everything, that was one of the things I did ask them because I knew that eventually we were going to want to try again. And they said that I think they said that they just wanted my my agency under six and she would be comfortable with us trying again. But she told me that before we wanted to try again that I needed to come see her just I think it was just to be like a this is what my a Wednesday is this is how I'm doing and then her to kind of give the okay. And my my endo is really great. He i think i think he was said like under seven he would be fine. But me being crazy. I'm like we're gonna go with the under six thing.

Scott Benner 18:20
Yeah. And have you heard Jenny talk about?

Unknown Speaker 18:23
Yeah, and

Scott Benner 18:24
I think that is the I think that is the understand that, you know, kind of accepted ideas that under six is what you're shooting for. And very and low variability know, they'll pass around blood sugars and stuff like that. Okay, so you achieved all that. And you? You did the fun part again? And how long did it take you to get pregnant when you decided to start trying?

Samantha 18:46
I think it took us three months. And I think I finally happened because I stopped stressing about it. Because I was like, I don't know, I'm just a stressed person. So I'm like, every time it didn't happen I was freaking out like is there is because last time it happened like really fast. So when it didn't happen right away this time I kind of thought maybe there was something I would the type one that I know was preventing things but after I stopped stressing out it happened so

Unknown Speaker 19:13
don't stress. Well.

Scott Benner 19:15
Stay calm.

Unknown Speaker 19:16
Yeah.

Scott Benner 19:18
I it's I always feel bad for the guys when it happens quickly. Because you know, at least in the back of their heads. There's gonna be like this nice long time. You know, where like every couple of days she's like, you know what, we should do it you're like Yes, I do. I've been waiting for you just say that. You know that you do it the first time like I'm proud of you. You're like you got to be kidding me. Like This isn't fair. It's like winning the Superbowl in your first season. It's everything you don't mean like you're like oh, but I have to look forward to it now.

Unknown Speaker 19:43
Yeah, maybe that's what

Scott Benner 19:46
I yes of course. Boom. You know, I met this part is now it got done kind of quickly. conceived Arden in a on a sofa in the basement. Right before So, so my son was, you know, however old he was, my mother was over. That's how young my son was my mom was there to go at the house to go trick or treating with us. That was back when our kids were so small that people would like, you know, change towns to be like, Oh, I want to see him in his costume. And my wife and I, Kelly and I are steadfastly trying to accomplish one of the only things in the world we've ever planned, which was, which was getting pregnant with Arden at a certain time so that she could have a summertime birthday.

Unknown Speaker 20:31
Yeah. Oh, yeah. You have to

Samantha 20:33
think about when the birthday. I'm

Scott Benner 20:36
honestly telling you, I think we've only planned two things in our life. And that was one of them. So we're like Cole's getting into his costume. And my mom's there and my wife goes, Hey, you know, we got it. I was like, Really? Yeah. Like, probably Now, before we go out, my mom is here. Do we send her outside? That seems odd, right. Like, you know, and like, what to do? And she goes, Oh, no, I know what to do. And I'm like, Yeah, all right. So I don't even know what Kelly's doing. Kelly turns to my mom. And she was, Hey, could you just watch Cole for a second? Scott and I have to go downstairs and get some stuff for trick or treating. Huh, so literally poor Arden's like conception stories. Like the extra sofa, you know, the one you're like, Oh, it's too nice to have. Not nice enough to be in the living room anymore. Yeah. And my wife being like, hurry up before your mom figures out what's going on? very loving. Anyway. I don't feel weird telling it. I think I wrote about it my book. Congratulations. Very exciting. pregnant again. When did that happen? When did you know you were pregnant? Because we're going to start kind of putting dates in this one a little bit.

Samantha 21:46
Um, I think we found out in July,

Scott Benner 21:49
July of 2019. You found out you were pregnant again?

Samantha 21:51
Yeah, it was right before my husband's birthday.

Scott Benner 21:54
Happy birthday to him. My birthday also in July.

Unknown Speaker 21:57
Oh, yeah. Just saying I'm the 12th. When is he exactly? The 15th. And my sister's the 13th. So

Scott Benner 22:03
we're all connected? Yep. By being born. So you found out in July of 2019. You and I are speaking for the first time. In September of actually, Today is September 5 2019. Again, something that I've actually planned again, not something I do very frequently. But I said to Sam, what if Samantha Excuse me, I you know what, here's the problem. In the recording right here, I typed your name in as Sam. I'm gonna change it because when I look up, I see Sam and then it goes into my head. So Samantha and I were talking and I said, wouldn't it be kind of cool. If we spoke after every kind of trimester and then postpartum maybe three months after you had the baby? And Sam, again, the glutton for punishment said yes. So here we are July, August, September, and we're talking so have you had your How many times have you been back to the OB at this point?

Samantha 22:56
Um, we I've three times, okay. I've been there. The first time was a little like, like emergency visit, because I was having cramping and bleeding. So my ob was like, can you come in right now, just to make sure the pregnancy was in the uterus. So that was really quick. But I got to hear the heartbeat. And then we had our official first ultrasound, and they did all the blood work. And then we went again last week for just like a check in ultrasound.

Scott Benner 23:24
And things are going the way you would expect.

Samantha 23:28
Yeah, I mean, at this, I mean, I don't know how much you can tell there's a baby in there. And it looks like a baby now. And the doctor says everything looks good. So

Scott Benner 23:39
that's wonderful. The first pregnancy is lost because of the the high blood sugar. It had nothing to do with you or anything else.

Samantha 23:47
Yeah, well, that's what I mean. They can't say for sure. But we did all the testing. Like all the blood tests, we did an AMA, Nielsen thesis, and everything came back normal. So they said the only thing that they can think of is that it was because of the undiagnosed diabetes.

Scott Benner 24:03
But I'm assuming even though that's been said to you, there's a lot of anxiety.

Unknown Speaker 24:08
Yeah, yeah. Have you?

Scott Benner 24:10
Are you still dealing with that? Or does it get easier as time goes?

Samantha 24:14
I think it will get easier when we get to pass the point that we got last time. So once I hit like 26 weeks, I think that maybe I'll calm down a little bit.

Scott Benner 24:24
And that's an arbitrary distance that you've set in your head.

Unknown Speaker 24:28
Yeah, yeah. It's like that doctor said to you,

Samantha 24:30
right? No, no, the dog. I mean, the doctor hasn't said anything that make us think that anything will be wrong. So but it's just me in my head.

Unknown Speaker 24:40
Are you

Scott Benner 24:42
superstitious? As

Unknown Speaker 24:47
in what way I don't

Scott Benner 24:48
know, I don't know like the accounting steps or like, you know, oh, no, no, no. So this is just something that because I did something similar. setting an arbitrary date for myself. Like when Arden was diagnosed, I said myself in a year, it'll be better. Like in a year I'll understand. And I took it. So literally, in my own mind, even though I'd never shared it out loud with anybody that on the anniversary of her diagnosis when I wasn't super great at taking care of type one diabetes, like, Oh my gosh, what a letdown. The year it didn't happen. Yeah, so I just reset my clock. So you know, it's probably two years. That's probably how

Unknown Speaker 25:24
it Yeah.

Scott Benner 25:25
But it is interesting how we do that. Like, we just like, oh, if I make it this far, if we do this, I talked about health that way. In my personal life, I'm always like, you know, like, there's, I don't know, like goals in my mind. Like, oh, if you make it to 21, that's good. You know what I mean? If you don't get really, yeah, you're 30 that probably means you might not get cancer until you're 16. Like, like, all these stupid things that have nothing to do with reality.

Unknown Speaker 25:47
Whatever makes you feel better, though. Exactly.

Scott Benner 25:48
Like whatever you can tell yourself. So yeah, so you've said, Okay, I want to get past I'll maybe I'll feel better than,

Unknown Speaker 25:55
yeah, what does

Scott Benner 25:56
that mean day to day? Like? Do you wake up every day worried? Or for the most part, are you free and easy?

Samantha 26:03
It's not like I'm worried constantly. I think if I think too much about it, and what happened then I start getting worried. Like, currently we last time I was at the doctor we did, they did took my blood to do the the screening testing. And like, even though everything came back fine for the last pregnancy, and they told us the chances of something not coming back fine this time, are really low. Like, I'm still like, just like waiting for something to be wrong, almost. Which sounds so bad, but it's just that's kind of how my mind works. So luckily, I have my husband, he's like the positive one. So he balances me out. But it's just, if I think about it too much. That's when I start freaking out. So

Unknown Speaker 26:43
it overwhelms you a little bit. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 26:45
Yeah.

Scott Benner 26:46
Well, the good news is, is that towards the end of the pregnancy, you won't be able to think at all. So the energy or the wherewithal to worry about anything. Just be like look at me, baby. Let's come in. It's fine. Yeah, somebody pink that room, please scramble

Unknown Speaker 27:00
to get ready for it to come. Oh, please,

Scott Benner 27:03
you get that placenta brain at some point. And like you just I looked at people before I was like, Kelly was such a bright person before I got her pregnant. I don't know what happened. she snapped back out. Let's talk about the diabetes a little bit. Okay. I'm assuming you've said sort of goals for yourself? Have you made adjustments to your diet? Have you like, what is it you're doing to keep your agency where you want it to be? And how are you accomplishing it?

Samantha 27:30
When I first was diagnosed, I started with my range being like 70, to 180. And I just progressively lowered it. Because, I mean, I did a lot of research. So I know what like normal blood sugar should be. And I figured if mine was as close to that as possible, then that would be good. And so currently, before I was pregnant, my range was 70 to 130. And I was staying in range pretty much 90% of the time. And when I got pregnant, I changed it to 80 to 120. So that's what I'm going off of now. And I don't really I mean, I limit what I eat to the point of like, if my blood sugar is high, I'm not going to eat like a piece of bread, because I don't want to deal with that. But if usually when my like, I mean, I don't really have too much issue with my blood sugar. So I kind of just eat what I want, but I don't eat things. Like, I don't remember the last time I had cereal, just because every time I try that it goes really bad. And I don't really want to put the effort into figuring it out. I don't I don't eat pasta very often, but I eat like I different things that kind of substitute for pasta.

Scott Benner 28:46
Is this any different really than what you were doing prior to this pregnancy? like butter? No, no, you just sort of continuing on with what you found work for yourself.

Samantha 28:55
Yeah, I kind of think even like I thought I was gonna get a lot more strict with what I was eating when I found out I was pregnant. But I think I've gotten a little bit more lacks because like, of my cravings. So I never ate bread before I got pregnant again. But I've been craving bread. So I have bread almost every day. And I figured out how to Bolus for it. So everything's been fine.

Scott Benner 29:17
Plus, you get to say things like the baby one spread.

Unknown Speaker 29:19
Yeah. Do I use that a lot?

Scott Benner 29:23
I don't know why you would not. My wife said that when she was pregnant with my son. She wanted like junky food. Like it was like fast.

Samantha 29:32
craving carby food.

Scott Benner 29:35
And then with Arden it was all fruits and vegetables. Oh, she was a completely different feeling. She never felt in control of either of the feelings. Yeah, it's really, really interesting. Meanwhile, our kids don't eat fast food. So it's not like it like stuck to them. I don't think it was a I don't think you're training them. But it was really it was really something else. To watch the cravings come and for her not to be able to explain them and then do that. Now I, you know, she didn't have to think about doing insulin with that. My next question is, I don't want to freak you out. Like I don't want to say something where Samantha's like, I never thought of that. Well, Scott, thanks.

Unknown Speaker 30:16
You can ask me whatever.

Scott Benner 30:19
I know for an adult, especially someone living by themselves now you're not by yourself, you're with your husband. I'm assuming you're not always together. He's probably out right now feeling the weight of the world trying to make as much money as he can to send a baby to college. How much do you think about I can't get disabled with a low blood sugar because I'm pregnant?

Samantha 30:39
Um, it doesn't really, I mean, I worry about it. We have like, my husband gets like alerts when my blood sugar goes below a certain amount. And we have I had the sugar mate app, so it sends him my location if it gets like urgently low. Um, but I don't really have lows. often enough where I'm like, worried about it. And since my my low alarm is set at 80, I'm pretty like, I get it. I'm on top of it. And

Scott Benner 31:12
Arden was dehydrated yesterday. And that's important. Well, you'll see why in a second. First of all, you should know that this is an ad for the dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor. And that you can get it by going to dexcom.com Ford slash juice box. Okay, let's get back to the story. for about three and a half hours. Yesterday afternoon. Arden was completely dehydrated. We couldn't get her rehydrated. And we were using a lot of insulin to keep her blood sugar somewhere in check. But it was high. So we finally got her hydrated, got her blood sugar down, but I knew in the back of my head. This is gonna come back to bite us sometime tonight when she's sleeping. And sure enough it did. As a matter of fact, Arden's blood sugar fell pretty quickly after she fell asleep. And it got dangerously low. How do I know that happened? Her Dexcom g six continuous glucose monitor sent me an alert right to my iPhone. A couple of quick beeps told me Hey, you should wake up Scott. Something's not right. I went to Arden treated her blood sugar, made adjustments to her insulin and watched her blood sugar come back up to a safe range without getting high, which allowed me to go back to sleep and sleep the rest of the night comfortably. If this sounds like something you'd be interested in, go to dexcom.com forward slash juicebox and get started today. There are also links in the show notes of your podcast player and at Juicebox podcast.com. Please remember that these results are personal and yours may vary. I was alerted through Dexcom follow which is available for iOS and Android supported phones are listed@dexcom.com I am genuinely not sure where we would be some days without the Dexcom I hope you give it a try.

Unknown Speaker 33:00
Have you ever had a bad well?

Unknown Speaker 33:02
Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Scott Benner 33:03
So you know what it is to

Unknown Speaker 33:06
say that?

Scott Benner 33:07
Yes, we do. Were you so low when that happened that you couldn't help yourself or No, I've

Unknown Speaker 33:12
never been to the point where I can't help myself. Okay, I've never, like passed out or anything. Are you having any weird fluctuations with your blood sugar now that you're pregnant, like highs or lows that you can't explain?

Samantha 33:23
Uh, yeah, my bazel is changed a ton. I use the loop with Omni pod. So that's been really helpful. Um, and when I was right before we found out and like right after we found out for a couple weeks, my bazel was up like 50%. And then that stayed like that for a few weeks. And now I think I'm getting into the I heard like, in your early pregnancy, you start getting lows. So I'm starting to get in like this last weekend, my bazel was down 50% than normal. So I'm starting to get into that. I just I constantly changed my bazel

Scott Benner 34:03
I was gonna say you made it You made a change to your basal rate on your own. You're like I'm cutting this in half.

Samantha 34:08
Oh, yeah, I do everything myself. My my end. Oh, trust me a lot.

Scott Benner 34:12
That's excellent. That's really cool. Well, what you don't have to tell me exactly where but what part of the country? You're on the west coast. Is that right?

Samantha 34:19
Yeah, I'm in Orange County, California.

Scott Benner 34:22
Yeah. Samantha's given me her dress. Exactly. Okay, so do you have Are you working?

Samantha 34:29
Yeah, I work full time and I go to do school. So.

Scott Benner 34:34
Oh, wait, hold on. You work full time and you're in school?

Samantha 34:37
Yeah, but my school is online. I do Asus online program.

Scott Benner 34:42
Okay, and what are you trying to? What are you getting a degree in?

Samantha 34:45
I am graduating in next month. Actually. I have one month left and I'll get have my BA in Spanish.

Scott Benner 34:53
Oh, that's very cool. Now what do you because let me tell you why I say that. My son is a sophomore in college. has been taking Spanish at a high level like AP and like all that Spanish and I think he was in eighth grade and speaks almost no Spanish. Is that common?

Samantha 35:12
Um, I don't know, I really like Spanish. So, like, I just fell in love with the language. When I was in high school, I had a really great Spanish teacher for one of my years. So I really like it. I I don't like to tell people I can speak Spanish, but I can hold my own. I don't like the pressure.

Scott Benner 35:29
That's why I see you don't want to like screw up in front of somebody who's like, well, I actually like Spanish. So let's, let's hear it.

Samantha 35:36
I get really nervous. Yeah.

Scott Benner 35:37
Oh, no. So if I said to you right now, to introduce yourself and say that you have type one diabetes, and you're pregnant in Spanish, you start getting freaked out?

Unknown Speaker 35:47
Yeah. Like I would probably forget how to speak English. Well,

Scott Benner 35:54
what are you hoping to do with the degree I hope it's not speak Spanish?

Samantha 35:59
Well, originally, when I first started going to school, I wanted to be a teacher. So that wasn't my plan. But now I work for a law firm. And I really, really enjoy that. So I like my job. So I'm going to stick with my job. And then after I'm done with my bachelor's, I'm going to get my paralegal certificate, most likely. And then I told my husband that like down the line, like when we've had our kids, and they're like, older and stuff, maybe I'll go to law school or something. But we'll see I always change my mind.

Scott Benner 36:34
Well, at least you'll always have Spanish, which I think is a really big deal. My son's like, I'm not gonna take it this semester. And I was like, I said, Okay, and I said, are we getting away from this? Because you've been after for a long time. And he's like, Yeah, I just, I'm not good at it. You know, what do you mean? And then you look, he's great. You're Excellent. So he can, he can test and like, he does really well in the classes. And I think he speaks better than he believes he does.

Unknown Speaker 37:02
Yeah, probably. But he just doesn't. I don't know if he's just nervous or embarrassed, or I don't know exactly what it is. Yeah. And it's hard if you don't have anybody to practice

Scott Benner 37:11
with. Exactly, and you can't practice with me. So I I please, you guys have heard me speak. I don't speak English that well. But I said to him, I'm like, How close are you to a minor in Spanish? And then he said to me, he's like, I am really close to it. So yeah, you have to like, like, go and get like, not take one more semester. And and you know, and he's like, no, I Well, I was like, okay, so hopefully he will. Alright, so Samantha real quick. Just say your name and that you have type one diabetes and Spanish go.

Samantha 37:43
May Allah Samantha he single diabetes? People who No,

Unknown Speaker 37:50
see? Huh?

Unknown Speaker 37:52
Did you enjoy? Did you start crying at all? Yeah.

Scott Benner 37:58
Honestly, just did the mess with you. I didn't really need you to say, sorry, I'm sorry. I feel like we're getting friendly. Yeah. Okay, so Samantha, now that you have diabetes, and you're having a baby, have you had the thought? I wonder if my baby will have diabetes?

Unknown Speaker 38:16
Yeah,

Samantha 38:17
I'm really worried about it. Because it's so expensive.

Scott Benner 38:21
I liked it. That's why you thought of it. It's really the cost is there is the issue. So tell me how it makes you feel.

Samantha 38:27
I just like, I know that me having diabetes doesn't really like increase the chances all that much. But I mean, we still worry about it. It's just a lot. It's just a lot of work for me. And I know how I feel about it. And I feel like if I was doing it, like I don't like for you doing your daughter's diabetes. Like, I feel like that's so much responsibility, and so much stress, like because you don't want to mess them up. So I feel like my diabetes will be put on a backburner. And then that's all I'd be focusing on. Is them.

Unknown Speaker 39:02
Interesting.

Scott Benner 39:04
I can see that being a concern. And I can see, I could see that happening too. But what I hear from most people who have diabetes as an adult, and then go on to have a child who has type one is that the what's the word? I guess the responsibility that they feel towards being a good, not just slow model, a model and steward of their child's diabetes actually causes them to do better for themselves? Normally, from what I've heard from people over and over again, then then the opposite.

Samantha 39:43
That makes sense. We'll see like, my thing would be like my kids not gonna know what my

Unknown Speaker 39:46
blood sugar's are. You wouldn't want to know.

Samantha 39:49
Well, they could know but like, what if they don't, they'll be like, I doesn't matter what mine is. What matters what's yours.

Scott Benner 39:57
So it'd be that thing, like when your parents are being like hypocritical about something. You don't do this and you're like, yo, but you do that all the time. Like that kind of thing.

Unknown Speaker 40:05
Yeah,

Samantha 40:05
I don't know I've been so my I've been so like on top of things. I don't know how much I'll probably I probably say that I'm going to get more lenient with mine, but I'll probably be the exact same. It's just like, being a number above. I'm crazy when I see a number above like 141 50 I'm like, Oh my gosh, I need to fix this right now.

Scott Benner 40:25
Well, first of all good. I think that's reasonable. I don't want you to be crazy about it. But I see one to get a blood sugar back down from 140 Ardennes was stuck yesterday at like 170 for a while. And I was you know, I was driving me crazy. All the big guns to get it down. Like Yeah, you know, like, I didn't just look at it and think I hope this comes back. I got actively working towards it. I had a thought in my head and it just left me. That doesn't usually happen to me. This could be my end right here. I'm getting closer to 50. You said about your punch hugger. Oh, hold on a second. I have to go backwards through my thoughts better. Oh, my God, I'm lost. Okay, I'm sorry. I they,

Unknown Speaker 41:08
if it's important, you'll remember,

Scott Benner 41:10
is that what you say? Is that's how you make yourself feel better when you forget?

Unknown Speaker 41:14
Yeah,

Scott Benner 41:15
I sort of, um, I don't know if it comes across in the podcast, but I really don't plan ahead. So these hours are conversations me hearing you and coming up with questions and saying things and you saying things in return. And when when I don't know what I'm going to say next. I feel like I feel like I failed you just now. Like I feel like we have a wall shut the recording off and like be done with it. Like, Oh, my gosh, got this. The podcast is done. Now he can't he can't think ahead of what he wants to say. But I think that if you if you're that I remembered I knew it. I knew I would remember. So I had a question for you. You said a second ago. You keep thinking you're going to get more relaxed or lacks with your your care, but then you don't what makes you think that you'll get more laxed about it as time goes on?

Unknown Speaker 42:06
Um,

Samantha 42:08
because like, I don't know, I think that may be I'll be okay with being under 150 instead of having to be under 120. But I mean, I don't know, I feel a difference, like when I'm over 120. Or if I'm under one hundred, like, so like my body knows. But I don't think that I'll change it much. But like, maybe when I'm dealing with chasing a kid around, if my blood sugar goes above 130 I won't like think, Oh, I need to stop what I'm doing and fixes right now. I'll be like, I'll deal with it after this kid is dressed.

Scott Benner 42:43
So you're saying that you think that as life begins to build on itself and you have more and more things to do? And yeah, it's time that the thing you might give away is, um, when your blood sugar where you want it to be?

Samantha 42:55
Yeah, and it's not like I don't see myself ever like being okay with super high for my standards, blood sugar. But I mean, being under 150 I could maybe see myself being okay with just

Scott Benner 43:09
like be now do you think that would be a scenario where it was like, hey, it's Tuesday, and I'm really busy. And my blood sugar was 145 all day and I just kind of didn't do anything about it? Or are you saying that you can see your blood sugar? average of 145 being the norm for you every day of the week?

Samantha 43:25
Oh, no, not I don't think my average will ever be like that. I think just like in the moment like I don't have time to focus on getting this. I mean, if my blood sugar is at 145 all day, then there's something going on. Like it's being stubborn, and I don't have the time to focus on what do I need to do to get it to come down? Yeah.

Scott Benner 43:47
Okay. So you just you're saying run around chasing the kid one day, things are going crazy. I might not take the chance to bump my blood sugar with like a little quarter of a unit or half a unit of insulin or something like that to try to like just move off of this number. Okay, yeah. Okay. So you're a fairly focused person when it comes to is this common for you in the rest of your life? Because you're talking about your blood sugar in a way that I think is, you know, is the way I talk about it, but at the same time, I think it's, you're not a person looking to have higher blood sugars, you can feel the difference you're looking for lower? Is that how you are in the rest of your life? Are you particular about things? I don't know what the right word is?

Unknown Speaker 44:27
Um, I don't, I don't.

Scott Benner 44:31
Because it's your health, I guess is what I'm asking.

Unknown Speaker 44:33
Yeah,

Samantha 44:34
I mean, I am. When I want to do something and the other aspects of my life. I am like, I put effort into that too. But I mean, I don't know my husband probably will say that. I'm very particular. But

Scott Benner 44:48
so if I, if I'm reading a magazine, and I toss it on the floor next to the sofa, How many times will you be able to walk past it before you either yell at me about it or pick it up?

Samantha 44:57
Well, I'll ask for. I'll be like Can you pick that up? And then usually my husband will be like, oh, I'll do it in a second. And then I'll be like, no, next time I walk by, I'm going to pick it up. Gotcha. But I don't dwell on it. Like I just say it. Like I say, my, the thing is that I want him to do like, out loud, just so I can get it out of me. And then like, if I ended up having to do it, I just do it. And I don't like, stay mad about it. Because what's the point of being mad about something stupid like that. So that's the last 90 seconds of this podcast, every person should have to listen to before they get married.

Scott Benner 45:31
Because this is, I just I'm,

Unknown Speaker 45:34
I'll pick my battles, I'm

Scott Benner 45:36
imagining my wife standing next to us being able to hear us right now just nodding her head, like, Oh, this girl understands completely about what what to do. It's. So that's what I was wondering. And so I got it, I got it out even kind of a sideways way, but you're not a person who would leave a magazine laying on the floor, you know, she's gonna stare at a 145 and leave it there, I think to be honest with you, you're going to find a way to make that adjustment. Even in a busy day. You also might find that that busy day stops your blood sugar from being high like that. Maybe that extra running around and being busy will kind of naturally help you, you know, that exercise or as Jenny talks about, like, opened the doors to the cells and laid out the sugar.

Samantha 46:14
Yeah, that's one thing I am worried about. I'm not worried about low blood sugar right now. But I'm really worried about it when we have kids, because like, I can't be on it. Like I can't pass out from having low blood sugar when I have like, a three year old in the room with me, because I'm going to be alone with the kid. Every once in a while. I mean, it's inevitable being a parent. So that's what I am worried about.

Scott Benner 46:37
I'm imagining all the day drinking moms right now who are like, Oh, don't worry, they're fine for a couple of minutes. If you go conscious. I am, I have a hard time trying to put myself in the shoes of a person who has that situation in their life. I can't imagine what that feels like. Because I am very, you know, I've been a stay at home dad for coming up on 20 years now. And I take my job with my kids incredibly seriously. And so, you know, not only would you not want to be I'm assuming you don't want your kid to see you incapacitated, that's the first thing you don't want them. You know, you don't want to wake up a half an hour later and the kids riding the dog. And you know, down the stairs, you're like, oh, what else has happened while I've not been take because it's going to feel like even though it's completely I don't want to say it's out of your control. But But even though it's a medical scenario where you know, you didn't do it on purpose, right? Like mommy didn't grab like two glasses of wine and decide to take naps in the middle of the afternoon. Like you pass on a low blood sugar. It's still going to feel like it's gonna feel like you'll let them down like I know. Yeah,

Samantha 47:46
yeah. And usually when I get like lows, it's because I did something wrong. either. I gave myself too much insulin or I I usually when I have low blood sugar, it's because I messed up. So

Scott Benner 48:00
so you don't see a lot of loads that you can't trace a reason for.

Samantha 48:03
Yeah, it's usually because I didn't know how many carbs I was eating. So I over bolus is usually why I get low blood sugar.

Scott Benner 48:11
Gotcha. Have you um, have you experienced any honeymooning? But

Unknown Speaker 48:16
I wish I did. Do you really? Nice. Yeah.

Scott Benner 48:20
I don't know. I was just talking to somebody yesterday that wishes their kids honeymooning would stop. So Oh,

Samantha 48:24
my, I feel like I had to get used to like using so much insulin because, like the higher numbers kind of freaked me out. But, um, but now I'm kind of. I'm a little bit past it. But sometimes, I mean, I give myself lots of insulin at once. But I don't know what lots of insulin is. what's what's off insulin for me.

Scott Benner 48:45
Right? Yeah. What's the number that makes you feel like wow, I just gave myself a lot of insulin.

Samantha 48:50
If I get to 10 or more, that's when I feel a little bit uneasy, and I usually break it up. Even though I know I need that much for what I'm eating.

Scott Benner 49:01
I get that. I didn't quite do that yesterday with Arden but I I got to a number where I was like, What if she doesn't eat all this? And I don't usually feel like that. But she was, you know, she had left. I know some people know that when we leave doctor's appointments. Rn gets like chicken and waffles after doctors thing. And so there was chicken and waffles and there was something else. But then she usually does this thing where she just has a little bit of the chicken and then halfway through the waffles goes up so far.

Unknown Speaker 49:33
He's like, No, you're not.

Scott Benner 49:34
Arden has a thing she called. She says I hit a limit. So but she doesn't know it's coming. It's so vile. I don't know if I've ever talked about it on here. But she'll be you know, laughing and having lunch and having a great time. Big fork full of waffle. And this happened yesterday. And the fork full of waffle goes in her mouth and she takes about three like chews on it and then grabs a napkin and puts it in an apple Kenny goes, Oh, I almost threw up. What I'm like what happens? Just I've hit my limit. And she's not kidding. She's like, kidding. she feels like she's gotten to a spot where like, that's it, I shouldn't eat anymore. And it it, it physically like changes how she feels when she hits that spot. So I,

Samantha 50:17
what do you do? If you already bullish for everything, please just shut off her bazel.

Scott Benner 50:22
And you know, in that situation I already kind of did a little less thinking that the thing would happen. But it turns out I still didn't do enough. I was still bolusing 20 minutes later, it's like, oh, this is way too much. Oh, was it because it's one of those places that doesn't have sugar free Sarah. So it's she's eating like, you know, it's a waffle.

Unknown Speaker 50:43
Yeah,

Scott Benner 50:44
spun sugar on top of it. And but what would I do in a normal scenario? Yeah, I would completely take away bazel insulin, try to trade out some of the, you know, the Bolus for Basal If I could, you know, start, you know, paying more attention.

Unknown Speaker 51:00
Yeah, I

Scott Benner 51:01
did test with a meter to make sure that the CGM, you know, given me good information that I can really work with, like start getting a little more careful.

Samantha 51:09
Yeah, is the Dexcom pretty accurate for you guys? Like on a normal basis? Yeah.

Scott Benner 51:14
Yeah, absolutely. I, you know, I think most people talk about the first day, as being a little like, you can be shaky. I find it's more like the first hours. Like, I don't have trouble through the whole first day. And usually what trouble means mostly, is that it's off by like, usually 3040 points in the first couple hours when you know when that that wire, I call it a wire and if that's the right, you know, the sensor wire is still sort of getting, I guess wet with your interstitial fluid, right? It's Yeah, still kind of soaking in and finding a balance. That's not a technical description of how the decks

Samantha 51:55
but I love the decks calm. I. I yeah, I when I don't when it's not working. It's just like the end of the

Unknown Speaker 52:03
world for me. With my best friend go, yeah,

Samantha 52:08
I really, technology is my best friend. I can't admit I like can't even fathom being diagnosed in like, 1980.

Scott Benner 52:15
Yeah, no, it's hard to it's hard to think about. I do love Arden's meter, though. She has a meter that she uses the Contour. Next One. And I like that one. It's really, the accuracy is insane. And it matches up with the G six. almost perfectly. Yeah. So I have a lot of comfort that comes from that because it is, I mean, I don't think I'm talking about a school I think is the best rated blood sugar meter. As far as it is. I did research about it. And so I'm using that. And it matches up with a G six often, which gives me a lot of confidence in the G six, you know what I mean? So yeah, even on that first day, if her numbers are matching my expectation even I still kind of go with it, because it's the first day. But the minute something like happens on that first day of a new g six sensor where you're like, this doesn't make any sense, then I check. Yeah, but I don't think we test except for around a low. You know, after the first day she probably doesn't test for the next nine days, maybe three or four times.

Samantha 53:23
Yeah, my endo he said that he trusted the dexcom over the blood the the meter every single time. So I did like a little test where I did not test my blood sugar with my meter. Like I did it maybe once a week through the three month period to see what the like the estimates on that the app gives you compared to what my a one C was and it was like right on

Scott Benner 53:48
so I have amazing that's how I think about it too. Like when people are like you know when when g six first came out, they're like, is it accurate? I'm like well I'll be able to tell you after like a first a full three months and then a one say like you know was the a one c match with the CGM has been telling me and it really does. So now please, it's you know, I talk about all the time, but I don't I'm not very good at this without that CGM. I don't think honestly too. It's taught me so much.

Unknown Speaker 54:13
Yeah,

Scott Benner 54:14
that when it's gone, and I think this will happen for you at some point those like two hour warm up periods and stuff like that. You're not as lost. Yeah, have such good, like historical data about what happens that you can kind of picture in your head sometimes, like I know, happening right now. It's

Unknown Speaker 54:29
a very good feeling.

Samantha 54:30
It's crazy. When I was first diagnosed, I was using novolog and I saw how long it took sometimes I would Pre-Bolus an hour and it would still I would still get the spike. And so I like went to my endo and I was like freaking out I was like I like my blood sugar is going up like it's spiking so much and I'm I don't know what to do do I like I can't eat anything without spiking and then he changed my insulin and like it's been

Unknown Speaker 55:00
chewed up and Dexcom I wouldn't even know. Yeah, changing your actual like, like insulin. Yeah, I

Samantha 55:05
use vs now.

Unknown Speaker 55:07
Ah, okay. And that's working better for you. It's amazing. Yeah, I love it good

Scott Benner 55:12
for you. That's excellent. Arden uses a Piedra and it's, it's perfect for us. So I'm very happy that we found that because we were in the same situation. years ago where no vlog all I ever saw were like two hours up and two hours down. And it was just constantly like that. And one day, someone said to me, you know, why don't you try a different insulin? And it was so long ago that that, I was like, wow, I could just do that. Like, yeah, just try a different insulin. I was like, Okay, which one do you use? And I was like, Alright, I'll try that one.

Unknown Speaker 55:44
And then sure, no crazy how different influence affect people differently.

Scott Benner 55:49
Yeah, you absolutely have to. You have to remember that the the the first anything that someone put in your hand is just the thing that they thought to give you it doesn't. I used to think of novolog insulin because it was given to us at the hospital and she was diagnosed and you know, there's other insulins. So yeah, you can you can, you can try different things. It's your it's your diabetes, it's your life.

Unknown Speaker 56:11
Exactly. It's him. So

Scott Benner 56:12
how did this go for you?

Unknown Speaker 56:15
It went well, I

Samantha 56:15
think did the recording? Did I stop making the noise on the microphone?

Unknown Speaker 56:20
Did were you thinking about it the whole time? Yeah, I've been holding the microphone.

Scott Benner 56:23
No, I'm part of universities. I feel bad about this.

Unknown Speaker 56:29
That's fine.

Scott Benner 56:30
So we are going to if you're, um, it seems like you'd have a good time. So I'm going to put this up. I don't normally do this. This is going to go up? No.

Unknown Speaker 56:37
Okay,

Scott Benner 56:38
this is gonna go up on Tuesday.

Samantha 56:40
Oh, wow. That's what I was gonna ask you. Everyone's been asking me my family's very excited about this.

Scott Benner 56:45
Tell them I'm excited to thank you very much. I am I want I guess I just told them, but I want it to be in real time with our conversations. So I would like I'm going to have this one go up. And then a few months from now, you and I are we're already booked out. We have them all right. Yeah.

Samantha 57:00
Yeah, I booked them all out. Because I'm a planner.

Scott Benner 57:03
I could see this by the way. I like because you're gonna really you're gonna be you know, you're going to be bringing your A game. So we're gonna, I'm gonna put this up this week. And then three months from now, we're going to talk again and again and you're gonna get more and more and more pregnant and closer to having your baby and we'll get to do that. Will you? Will you tell the world what sex your baby is on this podcast? Are you keep up?

Samantha 57:28
Yeah, you know, we're gonna, we're gonna find out. We'll probably know next week. So next time we talk, we'll know.

Scott Benner 57:34
I'm so excited. And is there any chance we're gonna call the baby Scott?

Samantha 57:39
know if it's a boy, we already know what it's gonna be named. My husband really wants to boy, I have to tell you how disappointed he is next time.

Scott Benner 57:48
So, if it's a girl that this story is gonna be, hey, the pregnancy is going great. I'm having a little girl. My husband and I have separated like that.

Unknown Speaker 58:00
Definitely not. I

Unknown Speaker 58:01
don't know. He's really excited to say as long as he sends the money, it's fine. You can do whatever you want.

Unknown Speaker 58:07
So I like him.

Scott Benner 58:09
So we should say your husband's name. We haven't done that. His name is Wayne. Okay, so Wayne really wants a boy.

Samantha 58:16
Yeah, and I I mean, I want it to be healthy. But I was in a mindset for a girl last time so I'd like girl just cuz I bought a lot of girl stuff. So the boys gonna be wearing pink.

Scott Benner 58:29
Why? Just when when a boy. Do you know why?

Samantha 58:33
I don't know. Don't don't. Dad's always want boys know. I like a little little boy to play. We're really big baseball family. So your son playing baseball is really cool. And if our kid doesn't want to play baseball will be very sad.

Scott Benner 58:47
See how I get that act like it doesn't matter what you have. But my son does play baseball in college. So I am getting I am getting what I wanted and get to act like it would have been fine if it didn't happen.

Samantha 58:56
Yeah, we love baseball. That's how we pick our trips. We're trying to visit all the baseball stadiums.

Unknown Speaker 59:01
Do you really? Oh, that's

Samantha 59:02
Yeah, we just went to Arizona last week to go see, we're a Padre. I'm a padres fan because I'm from San Diego but my husband's from Orange County. So he's a Dodgers fan. Okay, so we always go and see them play when we go travel.

Scott Benner 59:15
How happy are you with

Unknown Speaker 59:18
Dodgers plan?

Scott Benner 59:20
As a padres fan? How happy are you that you got? Oh my god. What's

Unknown Speaker 59:24
his name? MANNY Machado Machado. Yeah,

Samantha 59:27
I think we spent too much money on him.

Scott Benner 59:29
I was so happy when the Phillies didn't take him.

Samantha 59:32
Oh man. Yeah, he's just too expensive. I

Unknown Speaker 59:34
think Bryce Harper has been good.

Scott Benner 59:36
I'm happy that he's the one we got out of this. He's got 30 home runs hundred RBI is 30. Something else he's

Samantha 59:42
doing? Yeah. It's It's so sad. And Andres is just like I'm just the Padres fan for life. But an October I transfer over to being a Dodgers fan because you continue to watch baseball.

Unknown Speaker 59:55
Yeah.

Scott Benner 59:58
The idea of going to different stadiums Really like I am hamstrung in this area. So while you're excited that my son plays baseball, my son is such a baseball player. He doesn't particularly enjoy watching baseball.

Samantha 1:00:10
Oh, really? That's interesting.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:12
I get it. Yeah, he says when exactly I used to play. Sorry, go I don't know. Please go. I'm

Samantha 1:00:16
sorry. I was just gonna say I used to play softball growing up, and I hate watching softball,

Scott Benner 1:00:21
because you feel like you should be playing.

Samantha 1:00:24
Maybe that's it. I never really knew why I would just I guess it's just I would rather be playing so I don't like why watch it.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:29
I don't know.

Scott Benner 1:00:31
Because the entire time he's at a baseball game. He just thinks I wish I was playing baseball.

Unknown Speaker 1:00:35
I'm sure husband does that too. I did he

Samantha 1:00:38
Yeah, he played he played at SDSU.

Scott Benner 1:00:41
Nice. So he wants to teach a kid how to like throw and

Samantha 1:00:43
yeah, he was a pitcher. He's a really excited.

Scott Benner 1:00:46
What do what do you do? Right? This this baby comes out. It's a boy. Wayne names and you know, after his favorite baseball player, kid, trips, zone feet isn't athletic at all. What do you think Wayne? Does

Unknown Speaker 1:01:00
he just, we we just cut our losses and leave it again?

Scott Benner 1:01:05
Yeah. Just like, Hey, buddy, chew it over to the food court. We'll be there in a minute. And then that's it after all this work. Man, I'm glad you have a good sense of humor. This could have gone so many different ways. I never look into people far enough to figure out how it's gonna go. I think that's why the podcast ends up being fun. It's because it's because I really don't know who you are. When we start talking. I think if I pre planned it too much and found out too much about you.

Unknown Speaker 1:01:35
You know, questions to ask because you already know

Scott Benner 1:01:37
wouldn't be good. Like, there was an episode A while ago, where the person was just so like, loving and, and just like a wonderful soul. And as I was talking to her, I just thought this is so nice. I'm glad I didn't know this about her when we started talking. Like it was interesting to find out while we were talking, you know, and you have a great sense of humor, because you obviously have been through something terrible. And it's impacting you, but you're not letting it stop you. And I think that's fantastic.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:05
Yeah, really.

Samantha 1:02:07
If you don't laugh about it, then you're just gonna cry. So

Scott Benner 1:02:10
I'm super excited that we're doing this. Thank you so much.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:12
I yeah. Thank

Unknown Speaker 1:02:13
you.

Scott Benner 1:02:14
I hope you enjoy it when it comes out. And I can't wait to talk again.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:17
Yeah, I'm so excited. Thank you so much. Welcome. You have to

Scott Benner 1:02:19
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