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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends and welcome to episode 1274 of the Juicebox Podcast.

One minute, Emmeline was running a 5k and the next minute she was at the doctor's office saying she didn't feel well. Now she has type one diabetes. Nothing you here on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan. When you place your first order for ag one with my link, you'll get five free travel packs and a free year's supply of vitamin D. Drink ag one.com/juicebox Are you a US resident who has type one diabetes or is the caregiver of someone with type one if you are and you'd like to help with type one diabetes research from your home, you can do that at t one D exchange.org/juicebox. And all you have to do is take a survey. I know that Facebook has a bad reputation, but please give the private Facebook group for the Juicebox Podcast. A healthy once over Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes. The group now has 47,000 members in it. It gets 150 new members a day. It is completely free. And at the very least you can watch other people talk about diabetes, and everybody is welcome type one type two gestational loved ones. Everyone is welcome. This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by cozy Earth. use the offer code juice box at checkout at cozy earth.com And you will save 40% off of your entire order. Today's episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by the contour next gen blood glucose meter. This is the meter that my daughter has on her person right now. It is incredibly accurate and waiting for you at contour next one.com/juice box. This episode of The Juicebox Podcast is sponsored by the only implantable sensor rated for long term where up to six months. The ever since CGM. Ever since cgm.com/juicebox.

Emeline 2:18
podcast, my name is Emeline. And I've had type one diabetes for almost a year and a half.

Scott Benner 2:25
Oh, you're new? How old? Are you?

Emeline 2:26
I'm 26 years old.

Scott Benner 2:28
Oh, my goodness. Was it surprising? Not that, you know, Can I Can you imagine? I don't think there are many people were like, oh my god, I got type one diabetes. I was completely waiting for this. But you know, like in your family or anything like that?

Emeline 2:42
Nope, no family history. You know, everyone's got like the family history of like the smattering of type two diabetes, but no type one diabetes, not that many, like autoimmune diseases in my family. And yeah, it came on why it was like a very, like a typical diagnosis, because I had none of the classic symptoms. You know, I'm a nurse. And so like in nursing school, you learn about your typical diagnosis symptoms, and I had none

Scott Benner 3:11
of them. Oh, no kidding. So real quickly, there are some autoimmune in your family. There is some I have an uncle

Emeline 3:17
that has Ra. And then I think I have a couple cousins that have celiac disease, but that's the extent of it. Okay,

Scott Benner 3:25
so but diabetes definitely wasn't on your radar. And Correct. Talk about what you learned in nursing school?

Emeline 3:32
Well, I mean, I think it's just kind of like always in the back of your head when you like, take care of someone with diabetes. I mean, you'd learn about it being like the sudden onset of thirst or the frequent urination. And I do feel like I mean, I've been out of nursing school for almost five years now. And people talk about it, as you know, still, like a pediatric illness, like most people are diagnosed as kids, like, obviously, you can be diagnosed as an adult, but I feel like I've never had any education about like, it's, you know, we're seeing it more diagnosed as adults rather than, like, we're seeing it diagnosed just in kids, if that makes sense.

Scott Benner 4:13
Yeah, I mean, that's one of those things I hear said, I don't know, like, I don't know why that would make total sense. That why would there be more adults diagnosed type one, you know, in 2019 90, or, but maybe there's, you know, I'm sure there's possibly reasons I think it's more about that's the messaging from before. And so that becomes the messaging. Now, this is a kid's thing, you know, when, right, you know, people will point out sometimes that the JDRF made, maybe didn't do it any favors for adults by calling it the Juvenile diabetes Research Foundation, you know, right,

Emeline 4:48
exactly. And I did hear like, when I was shortly diagnosed, I got connected with someone from JDRF. And they were like, you know, there has been some talks about changing the name, but like, it's also one of those things where it's like JDRF is such like a stronghold in the type one community, that's hard to imagine it going by any other name.

Scott Benner 5:06
Yeah. I mean, what's next? Are we gonna change the name of baseball? I'm gonna start calling it something else, you know, like, we're stuck with what it is at this point. Not that it's a horror. You know, it just I mean, I understand, you know, whatever, doesn't really matter. But your, you know, I guess what people might expect. Like, I've never gone to nursing school. But I bet you the layperson hears that and thinks, you know, everything. But it's, what is it a couple of pages per thing? Like, yeah,

Emeline 5:35
very, it's very little information. And also, like, nursing school is like, it is what it is. It's like, it's school. It's like you learn a little bit about a lot of things. And then it's once maybe your post grad and you get a job, then you're kind of specializing in whatever focus area you want. And for me, that was not endocrinology. It wasn't diabetes. So it kind of that all got pushed to like the backburner. And then I was diagnosed, and I was like, Oh, my God, I gotta remember all this stuff now.

Scott Benner 6:04
Was it scary?

Emeline 6:06
I mean, I think I was in denial for a long time. I like initially went in. I hadn't been, like, hadn't been feeling right. Like, I feel like, that's the best way to describe it. Like, I had been gaining weight, which you're like, oh, that's the opposite of what you usually see. And I was training for a 5k I ran this 5k and was like, feeling good. I went into see my primary. And she like, like, oh, let's just do some labs, you know, maybe it's a thyroid issue. And my agency came back as 7.4. And I was like, immediately Googling, like, what are reasons for your agency to be falsely elevated? Like, I was like, There's no way this is diabetes. Like I'm a young, healthy, 25 year old, like, this is an average of things. But if it was

Scott Benner 6:54
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Emeline 9:18
Yeah, I was hoping it was like, you know, maybe about like my hemoglobin or something because I was taking a bunch of like supplements at the time. You know, like over the counter vitamins. Nothing crazy. I was like, maybe it's because of that. And my primary was like, I don't I don't think that's what it's from. That's not

Scott Benner 9:36
how this works. How long did you did you kind of cling to that hope?

Emeline 9:41
Probably a couple of weeks because it took me you know, they they had me seen within like the next couple days, you know, they gave me a glucometer and they're like, Okay, well we want you to start testing your blood sugar once a day, you know, two hours after meals at bedtime fasting, yada yada yada. And they're like And while we're waiting, we'll run the antibody panels to see, you know, is this type two, or is this more autoimmune related? And so I was kind of like, frantically googling for two weeks trying to be like, Oh, I can't be diabetes. And lo and behold, it was,

Scott Benner 10:16
this is likely something else, I probably have the flu.

Emeline 10:19
Right?

Scott Benner 10:22
Well, when that dissipates when that that hope goes away, and you realize you have type one, is there a big shift in your life? How do you How do you tackle it?

Emeline 10:32
I think the biggest thing for me was like, trying to figure out, like, I had a little bit of a honeymoon. Like, they started me on some Metformin. Like, they were like, you know, your C peptide is okay, for right now. Took a while to get a new endocrinologist even though they put in like an urgent console, but I was kind of just like, I wasn't one of those people that showed up in the ER, in DKA. Right. So it was like, you know, all of this education, I'm getting outpatient, I'm not getting it. In the hospital, I'm not getting like, you know, an emergency Dexcom like provided by the hospital. And so it's like, it was a lot of figuring out like, Okay, well, I need to take some time off of work to get to all these doctor's appointments. And so I was like, trying to get my shifts traded work with my manager. And then it was kind of like, but the endocrinologist I saw was phenomenal. I still see him. And he was like, we're kind of in like a watch and wait, like, we're gonna wait until your body shows us that it needs insulin. And I had like a glorious six weeks. That was all I lasted without needing any insulin, then

Scott Benner 11:45
then full blown. Here's a Basal meal, insulin pumps, that whole thing came right away.

Emeline 11:52
Exactly. Yeah, I started out on pens, like most people do. But it was like, the day after Christmas in 2022. And we were together, my family was gathering for Christmas. And at the time, I had the libre three, because it had just come out. And they were like, Oh, this is like the newest thing. It's so great updates every minute. And it just kept reading high. And I was like, alright, we, we are somewhere over 500 over 400. Like, what am I going to do? So they sent me to the ER, and they gave me some fluid. They never ended up needing to give me any insulin. But I talked to my endocrinologist the next day, and he's like, I think it's time. And I'm like, Yeah, I think so. It's time. It's time,

Scott Benner 12:34
it's time. Now, did your nursing background help or hinder this process? It

Emeline 12:40
helps so much like it. I mean, I've I knew all about like, the duration of time for different parts, different types of insulin, like I knew, generally about carb counting like, it was more so like in my nursing practice, which I still find this a little frustrating. I feel like I work in a hospital. And I feel like in the hospital, it's very much still like how many carbs choices? Are you doing prep meals, which I think is just really confusing, because you're like, Okay, well, one choice is 15 grams, why can't I just count the grams of carbs that that like I'm using? And so having all that info, I felt like made the process a lot less scary. And I would say like, I don't think it was ever someone that was like, afraid of insulin, because I knew how it worked. I knew how to like, I knew how to treat a low I we just kind of got juice on hand. We got fruit snacks on hand, and I just was like, Okay, well, this is this is what's gonna happen. And you

Scott Benner 13:41
just went with it. You didn't fight it. You didn't like cry? Did you say why me anything? Oh,

Emeline 13:48
I have lots of those moments. Lots of lots of like, tears, lots of like, you know, complaining to my husband and being like, yeah, why? Why me why now I still have those moments, but definitely didn't find it. And I think the biggest part of that was because we knew we wanted to try to start a family within like a like within six months to a year of being diagnosed. And I was like, I there is no way I'm gonna be able to do this with a HMC of 7.4. You

Scott Benner 14:16
were pretty honeymoon ish. Like in the B you caught it really kind of quickly. Yeah,

Emeline 14:20
I think I mean, it could have, you know, I do wonder, like, just how long I had it for I had COVID in April of 2022 and was diagnosed in October. And so part of me is like, you know, was that the viral illness that brought it on? But then I remember like, back in college, I would occasionally do night shifts for working clinicals or for my capstone project. And I had a lot of reactive hypoglycemia, like I would wake up and be like, drenched in sweat, I'd be shaky. I could like barely get out of bed to eat something and so part of me wonders like maybe this has been going on for like a while. long time and it's just been very slowly progressing. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, it was so odd. And now that like, I mean, I don't even think I knew what reactive hypoglycemia was at the time. But looking back, I'm like, I have that all the time.

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Emeline 16:23
Mostly because I feel like we're are in the same knowledge base that I was when I was diagnosed, which is like a very limited understanding of what type one diabetes is. And nowadays, I work in the hospital, I work in labor and delivery. And so we see a lot of patients with gestational diabetes. And so I feel like a lot of my coworkers, gestational diabetes is more so at the forefront of their mind. And that is just, it's so different than type one. Like, I want more people to understand that like treating and type one like a gestational diabetic is the wrong way to approach things. Yeah.

Scott Benner 16:57
Do you see a lot of people being managed, kind of improperly in a hospital setting? I

Emeline 17:04
think it kind of depends. I hate the word compliant, because I feel like it's a very loaded word. But like, I think it kind of depends on how, like compliant they have been throughout their pregnancy. It's hard because you have some people that really want to manage it with just like diet and lifestyle choices. And they don't understand that like, this isn't something that you're doing. Like, your body is literally creating hormones because you have a placenta right now. And you can't fight it. Like it's not like it's type two diabetes, you can't manage it with lifestyle choices all the time. So then it seems like there's a little bit of a battle when we have patients that come in, because they'll be like, Well, I haven't needed insulin, my whole pregnancy. And then they come into labor and delivery and their fasting blood sugar's 200. And it's like, okay, well, we got to do something about this. Yeah.

Scott Benner 17:54
So you bring something up that I've been picking through a lot in some of my other episodes. Yeah, I've talking to a lot of healthcare people. And I'm sort of doing this sort of dual thing. At the same time, I'm talking to some anonymously, and they're kind of dishing on what they see at work, but they're like, this is not great. But, you know, at the end of all these conversations, I asked all the time, like, you know, what, what, what can we do better. And when people are really being honest, they say, look, on our side, it's not great all the time. And we're also dealing with a lot of people who don't understand their diabetes at all, and or maybe don't want to put the full effort into it. And, you know, I kind of turn it back on them. And I say, well, well, that's not you, right? You, you the person in the emergency room, or the person in labor and delivery. You didn't start this person off on their life with diabetes, but some doctor did, right, somewhere in that buildings, the person who started them off on the wrong path, and now they end up with you pregnant five years later, or 20 years later in the ER or something like that. The answer can't be well, they're not trying hard. Because if you ask them, they're gonna say, Well, no one's explained it to me, right? We're stuck in that meme, where Spider Man is pointing to himself in three different positions. You don't I mean, exactly. As a matter of fact, I'm going to make a meme like that. I'm writing that down right now. No one is still this. It's difficult to like somewhere we have to start over. Like, you know, and in my mind, it's got to be with early education. That's all

Emeline 19:30
Yes. Yes. And I do feel like throughout my like, you know, whatever, year and a half, I've had type one diabetes, I've probably seen like, maybe like four or five different diabetes educators. And I do feel like there's been a huge spectrum of like, different mean different it's, it's kind of like nursing. It's like all healthcare professionals like there are some educators that focus on some parts of diabetes, type one type two, gestational, and others that focus Other parts like, and so sometimes it feels like, you know, you just get scheduled with the first educator that has appointment available. And I was scheduled with someone who wasn't trained on any pumps. And so I was like, Okay, well, I know that I want a pump eventually. But I loved her, like her education style. And the way she was working with me, she already acknowledged my background, she wasn't trying to speak to me, like, I didn't have any information about this already in my brain. And then I got to like another educator who was educated on pumps when I was getting ready to start my pump. And it was like, we were back at square zero. Like, she was like, explaining insulin to me. And I was like, I don't, I don't need that. I just need info on pump management. And so it's like, if someone gets scheduled with an educator, and they don't know that there's someone else out there, then it's again, setting up that process for a long road ahead of them.

Scott Benner 20:53
Yeah, yeah. It's only been a year, huh? Yeah,

Emeline 20:57
like a little a little less than a year and a half? And how did it

Scott Benner 21:00
if it did impact your personal relationships? Did it?

Emeline 21:03
It did. I think a lot of people in my family and around me like, again, not I do have a lot of health care professionals in my family. So like, they did understand the difference between like type one versus type two, but a lot of people are still kind of like, well, you know, how have your blood sugar's then I'll be like, Oh, they've been good. And then they're kind of, like, that's kind of the extent of it. So I feel like, you know, thankfully, my husband has been like, my rock, he was kind of dove in headfirst with me to try to understand things. But then it's hard. You know, I tried kind of connecting with other people that were young adults that were diagnosed as young adults, and kind of on some people, but like, it's just a whole different. It's a whole different ballgame. And so it does still, I would say it does feel fairly isolating most of the time. And like, even though I have supportive, coworkers, supportive family, like it just, yeah, a lot of times you're kind of sitting with that, like, no one gets it, no one understands it, like no one understands like the mental load of it.

Scott Benner 22:10
Yeah, you have a perspective that they're not going to have without diabetes. Right. Yeah. Your husband tries to understand. He

Emeline 22:18
does, yeah, he, he doesn't work in healthcare. So like, he's not bringing that perspective in. I think if he had worked in health care, we probably would have like, killed each other, like trying to argue over like the right way to manage it. But he's gotten more concerned. So I'm currently pregnant right now. Congratulation my pregnancy. Thank you. I've had several instances of like, severe hyperglycemia. Like I was in the ER ones because of it. And so his like, he, of course, he follows me on my Dexcom. And so now his head is like, he kind of jumps to the worst whenever this happens. He's, I think, just a little more like cautious walking on eggshells now. Because he's like, you know, was that a compression low texting me? Or he's like, are you in the ER again, and I need to drop everything and come get you?

Scott Benner 23:05
How long have you been married? It'll be four years this fall. I've heard some people talk about this feeling of looking back at a spouse, especially if you haven't been together too long. And thinking, Oh, this isn't what they signed up for? Have you wondered that? If they've had that thought? He has,

Emeline 23:23
um, I don't think I've ever like necessarily wondered that. But like, I mean, even a few nights ago, I had a new Dexcom is reading low. And I had left my like my bag of supplies downstairs, our bedroom is on the second level of our house. And, of course, I'm like, 30 weeks pregnant. So I'm, like, all settled into bed and he's frustrated because it keeps beeping. He's trying to sleep. He's trying to work in the morning. And I'm like, can you go get my stuff for me? You know, I, I left it downstairs. And he's, you know, understandably, like getting a little upset because he's trying to sleep. He goes and gets it for me. And then of course, I'm, I'm pregnant. I'm emotional. And so I like kind of start getting a little weepy. And he's like, I'm sorry. You know, I didn't I didn't mean to react like that. I know, you need this. Like, it's not on you it just as a reaction I had. And so sometimes I'm kind of like, yeah, it's not fair that he didn't sign up for this either. But thankfully, I feel like those moments come fairly few and far between.

Scott Benner 24:24
It's good. I'm sure they'll get better as time goes on, too. Yeah, I hope so. So let's talk about what you did to get from where you started to being ready to because sounds like you got pregnant on purpose, right? Yes, yeah. We were trying. Yeah. So where do you begin? What was your journey like through your agencies? And, you know, did you have to be told what your goals were? Did you know right away when you were thinking about pregnancy,

Emeline 24:49
I kind of had known, like, I knew that the range was lower than pregnancy. And so I think, you know, when I had started on insulin, I think a large part This is I can attribute to my endocrinologist who very much was like, your health care professional, you know how insulin works, you know how your body works. So I'm gonna let you, you know, guide your care, and then you let me know what's working. And so of course, I started out on like, sliding scale, and it was just, it was way too low, like, I would give myself three units of insulin, and it would like, no one even touch me. So I kind of just, I mean, I started increasing my dose, like, just like, it's a lot of trial and error, like giving myself five units and then being like, Okay, that was either enough, or then 45 minutes later, I'm tanking and being like up, okay, that was too much. So it was a lot of like, figuring that out and doing it on my own. And he was super supportive. He was like, Okay, sounds good. Just keep me updated with like, you know, your total dose so that I can keep an updated prescription for you. So I was doing that. And then in February of last year, I started on the Omnipod. Five. Okay, so what was that, like, four months after I was diagnosed, I think, about four months after I was diagnosed, and then switched to Dexcom, I had been using the libre three. And I feel like I can, like attribute a lot of my lowered agency to that because I eventually, you know, I want to say it was like, went from 7.4, down to seven. And then I dropped all the way down to like, 5.9 on the Omni pod. And then I think my next one was, like, 5.7. So I already knew I was like, sitting in a pretty good range. But I'm also well, self self, admittedly 100% of perfectionist and was like, Oh, I can do better. So

Scott Benner 26:43
tell me, so mid sevens, then Dexcom knocks off a half a point Omnipod five knocks off a couple more points. And then you kind of settle into a space and and start tinkering. Is that about, right?

Emeline 26:55
Yes. Yeah, yep. Yep. And then it was, you know, I had met with an educator through the healthcare system that I'm a part of, and she was kind of like, you know, I had, I was already in the Facebook group at this point. So I knew about like, pregnancy, like ranges, I did, like a pre pregnancy consultation with Jenny. And like, kind of did kind of knew that, like, I, I should just start lowering my, my parameters. So I think I lowered my goals to like 70 to 140, from 70 to 180, I kind of just started being a little more aggressive, especially with corrections. And that took a lot of trial and error, because I was like, 150, before, it was like, fine. And it was great compared to you know, sitting out in like the three hundreds, like I had been around Christmas, but then kind of like reframing my mindset to be like, Okay, let's, let's try to get it down a little bit better. And then I think I found out I was pregnant, like at the end of July, I want to say, Yeah, end of July, early August. So then I, you know, lowered it even more to like the 60 data to 140. And I've kind of just been messing with settings ever since pregnancy has been a toll. It's a whole other thing. But yeah,

Scott Benner 28:12
so. So you find basically, that what I say about setting like, lower targets, and then acting purposefully to try to get within them is the process you find you get what you expect, eventually. But so if you expect better, then I don't know mean it magically happens. I mean, if you expect better than you make different decisions to try to hit those targets, and then you start going, Oh, this work this didn't, and you make adjustments from there. That's how it worked for you. Exactly. Yeah,

Emeline 28:39
that's that's almost exactly how it worked. And I think, you know, not having that fear of insulin like, honestly, quite frankly, I've probably always been a little too bold with insulin. Like, I think sometimes I would go in to see my endocrinologist and he'd be like, Why are you having like, 10% lows? And I'd be like, I'm doing a lot of trial and error right now. Like, it's kind of the

Scott Benner 29:01
I'm in the middle of an experiment right now. Okay. Yeah.

Emeline 29:05
And he'd be like, Okay, well, are these severe lows? And I'm like, not always know, like,

Scott Benner 29:10
find severe.

Emeline 29:14
Exactly.

Scott Benner 29:15
How do you define severe?

Emeline 29:16
It's hard because I feel like before I got pregnant, a severe low for me would be like, you feel it, like, you are shaky, you are sweaty, but you can do like, get your own juice, like you can get your own things. And now that I'm pregnant, like a severe low is like, I need help. Like, I can't get my own juice. I can't check my own blood sugar. And I've probably had like, I don't know, like five or six of those during my pregnancy and they're scary. I mean, like, one wound me up in the ER, like, I passed out during one my husband said I passed out during one so I'm like, Oh, okay.

Scott Benner 29:54
You know, you're in trouble when you're you're relying on other people to tell you what happened. Yeah,

Emeline 29:59
aqui en, I almost have no memory of all of these severe lows. Like, I can remember being like, Oh, I don't feel right. And then the next thing I remember is I'm like, on the floor and being like a juice box in my mouth.

Scott Benner 30:12
What number puts you in that position?

Emeline 30:14
I don't think it's an exact number because so one of the first few times it happened that I did wound up in the ER was at work. And my co workers were like, like, I wasn't acting right, it was really busy shift. And so like, thankfully, all my co workers know I have type one diabetes, like, not a big deal. They brought me down to the ER and my fingerstick was 32. For sure that but then like, I've also had it happen when I'm, you know, my Dexcom is reading in like the 60s. So it's like, I think it probably is like, in the 40s. Mark, that I start to feel like that.

Scott Benner 30:49
Do you think or stick when you have a low like that eventually? Are you just working on covering it? Because of how you feel? Eventually?

Emeline 30:55
I do. Yeah. So my husband has been, he's refining his finger stick practice, because a lot of times he's the one that's that's do

Scott Benner 31:05
havoc? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think precipitates these lows during pregnancy? I

Emeline 31:12
think it's a combination of like, being busy, like almost all of the times that it's happened. I've either been like, at work or doing like a house project, like I've just been busy. Probably ignoring my Dexcom alarms a little bit like, like, you know, urgent, low and 20 minutes, me seeing the arrow and be like, Oh, that's you know, it's sloping downward. But it's, it looks like it's gonna level off. And then all of a sudden, it's like, you know, 51, and it's like, why? It's not leveling off, you need to start treating you. So I think part of it is oops, sorry. Go ahead. No, no, I'm

Scott Benner 31:47
sorry. Do you give consideration to what happened prior? When you get that alarm? Do you go, Hey, look, I just ate two hours ago. So I do have a fair amount of active insulin go on right now. Maybe I should pay more attention to this versus, you know, a time when you're falling? Maybe it's just about activity, and you have you don't have any active insulin?

Emeline 32:04
I do. Yeah. Like, I'm always looking to see you know how much I have on board. But then, sometimes it just feels like the situation like almost doesn't, like it doesn't fit. Like the Dexcom like or even like, or even the finger stick for that meaning like, yeah, it just is like, I feel fine. And then I checked my finger stick and it'd be like, 38. And I'll be like, um, how come I feel fine at 38. But then another time, I'll have no insulin onboard finger stick at 50. And be like, totally knocked out from

Scott Benner 32:38
it. You haven't had it long enough maybe to ask this question. I'll ask it anyway, maybe that'll be your answer. But is this a different scenario during pregnancy than it was prior?

Emeline 32:48
I think it is because I never I've never had a low that I needed, like outside intervention with until I got pregnant. Okay, so I don't know if it's just like, my body still having like, I mean, it's i Well, I've heard a lot of, you know, it's kind of trying to figure out how to say this. Like, I've read different things that says, you know, in pregnancy, your pancreas can kind of like, read you not, like rejuvenate, but like, it can make a little more insulin than what it had previously. And so because I only had it for, you know, six to eight months, part of me wonders if like pregnancy kind of jumped started my pancreas a little bit. And so my head, I'm still treating it as if I've got like, nothing. They're interesting, but my but my body is like, Oh, we got a little more insulin here than what you realize. And I'm just not Yeah, yeah. Just not reacting to it. That's a good question, though. Please.

Scott Benner 33:44
Thank you. I say thank you. I don't ask good questions. Where are we at? Is the doctor talked about the babies the fetus weight right now? Is it in a good spot?

Emeline 33:53
It isn't a good spot. Yeah, he's having a boy. He's measuring it like 58th percentile, right? But at the 20, or like anatomy scan at 28 or 20 weeks, excuse me, he was at like the 98th percentile. And so I was like, Alright, here we go, like gonna have a big baby. But also, my husband was like, almost 10 pounds when he was born, and his sister was as well. Oh, wow. So I think I think part of it is genetic as well. Like, I think I'm probably just gonna have a big baby, even if I didn't have diabetes.

Scott Benner 34:24
How's your agency been? So far? The first seven months? Good.

Emeline 34:28
It was It started out I think the first few I had when I was pregnant were like 4.6. And then the most recent one was 4.8. But it's probably a little closer actually to like 5.2 or 5.3. Based on like, what my average glucose is, you know, they say, Yeah, you're a one see in pregnancy can be like a little dilutional. That's

Scott Benner 34:47
wonderful. You're doing a great job. Thanks. Yeah,

Emeline 34:49
I feel good about it. Like I'm trying to remind myself that like, even if I was like at a six right now, that would still be great for pregnancy. But again, I have a little bit of that perfectionism. mindset. And so I'm like, okay, the lower the better. And then my endocrinologist is like, okay, but being hospitalized for a low blood sugar does not mean better. Not

Scott Benner 35:07
good. We don't want to fall forward onto the baby, right? I can't decide if it's ballsy or stupid that you got pregnant so soon after

she is superhero or an idiot, I can't if you can't figure this out. I

Emeline 35:23
think part of it was like, I just we were, we'd already been married for a couple years. And I was I think part of it is, I'm a really stubborn person. Like, I was like, I am not going to let this delay my timeline. And so then I kind of worked overtime to be like, learning everything, getting the palm feeling more confident. And then I think when I got pregnant was kind of like, uh, oh, God, no, I really gotta like, make sure that everything is good.

Scott Benner 35:51
Yeah. Easy to everything's easy to talk about, like, I can do this. And it starts happening. You're like, oh, there's no getting out of this. Now. There's only a couple of things to that you're sort of like, oh, this is really happening. I can't change my mind. You know, now it's okay. I mean, you're doing terrific. Obviously, when little Scott gets here, you anticipate, like working or staying with him? Or what are you going to do? So

Emeline 36:13
I'll be able to take, you know, like four or five months off of work. And then we're hoping to do like a staggered leave. So then once I go back to work, then my husband will take his full maternity leave. And then he'll eventually go to daycare, but yeah, like, yeah, it'll

Scott Benner 36:29
be sick of him by now. You'll be sick of him by then. Anyway, it's fine. Every day, all right. Let's lend them out to somebody.

Emeline 36:39
Yeah, here anyone wants to babysit for free. He's all yours.

Scott Benner 36:42
Good. Excellent. Are you planning on breastfeeding? I

Emeline 36:46
am. Yeah. And I'm, I'm very worried that like, because I've already had these loads in pregnancy. I've heard that, you know, with breastfeeding and type one diabetes, like you can get, like, there's just such that huge shift in needs immediately postpartum. And then I've heard from so many people that they just tank when they're breastfeeding. So I'm a little worried about that. I'm trying to like, kind of start preparing myself for that, and not really sure what to expect. Well, no, I

Scott Benner 37:13
mean, it's, I've heard both to that. It's really fascinating. Just the other day, one woman told me she's like, I my blood sugar never fell while I was breastfeeding. I was like, You gotta be kidding me. I was like, everybody tells me how it does. And then one person comes along and says differ. And I'm like, alright, well, maybe it's not that way for everyone. You know,

Emeline 37:30
I know. Yeah, I do wonder and like, I feel like because I work in labor and delivery, I have a lot of like, background education on breastfeeding, and like newborn care and stuff like that. And so it's like, it's not that hard, necessarily. That's, like, terrifying to me, like a lot of women that are pregnant are like, oh, you know, I'm terrified of like, giving birth and breastfeeding and I'm like, I got the information I have, that'll be fine. It's like, how type one diabetes is going to affect it that I'm like, you know, I don't really know that many people that are Yeah, have type one diabetes, and then have breastfed like, it's a very, like, it's just a very small amount of people. And so trying to find those, those resources, and like also getting resources from work, but then realizing that they're not necessarily applicable to people with type one diabetes can be a little frustrating.

Scott Benner 38:16
Yeah, I was gonna say that, you know, there's so much that's, you know, nice to say, but you're nice to read about, but in practice can often be different. So Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you're gonna have to forge your own way as you're going. I think I will be Yeah, you're just gonna have a kid in one hand and a juice box on the other. And you're gonna be like, Alright, what's gonna happen here? Yep. Yeah. I've spoken to a lot of pregnant women, who will tell me like, oh, you know, like, I'm definitely sticking with this later, like, this new regimen I'm on, you know, for my diabetes, then the baby comes, they get tired, they're taking care of the baby. And the first thing they give away is their own health, which is just a common parenting thing to begin with. Yeah, but you'll hear people telling me a lot like, Oh, my one C has been rising since the baby was born, like you've have you thought about that?

Emeline 39:00
I have, I will say I'm excited to like, even if it's not necessarily like loosening my control, you know, even if my parameters still stay at like, you know, 60 to 140 or 70 to 140. I think I'm excited to not be stressing about when my blood sugar hits, you know, 160 or 170. Like, it just right now, it's so much of like, I mean, it's a lot of scare tactics, that educators and endocrinologist you know, if you don't do this, then you can cause birth defects or like, you know, if you've got high blood sugars, you're gonna keep, you know, having your baby be big. And so I think, obviously, there's, there's that part of me that's like, oh, I can't wait to relax and like, have a little looser control. But I think there's a bigger part of me that knows it'll probably never really happen because I am too much of a perfectionist.

Scott Benner 39:52
Are we calling this a mental illness or just the way you are?

Emeline 39:57
I think honestly, it's a lot of stubbornness, like I'm trying to, like prove to myself that like, I can do this. And I think a lot of it is not like you can do it and have a range of 70 to 180 with a good AMC like you don't have to have this like constant perfection all the time, whether that

Scott Benner 40:16
kids like six years old, get sick, vomits on the floor in the living room, your husband has the same reaction he had the other night when you left your stuff downstairs. And it's like, you know, you're 32 instead of 26, you'll let everything go, then you'll be like, I don't care what happens. Good luck to all of us. May we live through this, right? Yeah, no yet quite, quite a journey. Well, very cool. Yeah.

Emeline 40:41
Yeah, I'm hoping that motherhood definitely like kind of reframes some of that for me. Like, I think having like being diagnosed with type one diabetes kind of rocked my world a little bit. And I'm hoping that having a kid kind of rocked my world, but like, in a good way to kind of humble me a little bit on that kind of team tamper down some of the perfectionism we'll see.

Scott Benner 41:01
I'm sure there are other outcomes, but the prevailing ones, as far as I can tell, are, it gets worse, or you start smoking crack? I don't think there's any. There's anywhere in between.

Emeline 41:12
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, it's just you know, it gets worse and then it'll get better. And we can just leave the crap out of it.

Scott Benner 41:18
There's either the people who are like, you know, just hyper focused on everything, trying to make everything work out perfectly, or those people who you like where your kids are like, I have no idea, and they don't look at all concerned about it, right. Yeah. We all know, a family. I actually, this fantastic. I was once involved, as my entire town was in a manhunt for a child. Oh, because this family was called the police. The kid is gone. We can't find him. You know, the whole town is out looking for this kid. Right? These people had i Let me count on my fingers, too. They have five kids. Okay. Okay. So, I mean, I'm gonna let you guess where the kid was. While the whole town was out looking for the other four kids or? No, he was in a side room asleep on a sofa. Oh, okay. I love that.

Emeline 42:15
Just one of the things where it's like, by the time you get to the fifth kid, you're like, Okay, I just, I he kind of blends in with everything else.

Scott Benner 42:21
I love the idea that they were like the kids gone. Where's the kid? The kid We looked all over the kids not here on a sofa that just faced away from the door in that room. So the back of the sofa, like you know, people sometimes put their sofas in the middle of the room like kind of thing. Yeah. And so the kids asleep on the sofa. Everyone just assumed that he took off out of the house and he was gone. He wasn't that young by the wait, either. Wasn't that only because like, yeah. So anyway, everyone's out looking for this kid. He's asleep on his sofa. And I think that's what happens when you have too many kids. Just eventually, you're just like i What does it matter?

Emeline 42:55
Your brain is just rewired to just doesn't work as well.

Scott Benner 42:58
Yeah, I don't know what happens. I think you're just up considering how much it's going to cost to send five kids to college, hoping three of them are stupid is what you're probably doing and trying to decide. You're really because I'm thinking about it. Say you had five kids? Which one do you wish is a dummy? You got to do you got to go? Well, these kids has got to not want to go to college. But and by the way, you don't have to be dumb not to go to college. You know what I mean? I'm being bombastic. But like, You got to look at those kids thinking like, I hope one of them wants to do a trade or maybe a few of them, or I can't send all of these kids or you have to turn to them and say, Hey, you're on your own to take out loans. Like, you know, which I don't think anyone wants to do. And when you talk to young people, specifically, like young parents, they're always like, we'll figure it out about paying for college, please, between you and I take this as absolute fact. You're not going to just figure it out. It doesn't magically get figured out. What happened. Those people what those people mean is I'm going to make those kids take out loans when they say I'll figure it out. So Right. Yeah, you just don't. Don't just scrape up 100 grand. It doesn't work that way.

Emeline 44:00
No, no, I wish it did. But I know it doesn't. Yeah, it's the

Scott Benner 44:05
whole thing so far. I mean, congratulations.

Emeline 44:11
Actually, it'd be wonderful. Even just even just like looking at daycare right now. It's been like, like, we have a couple tours scheduled later this week. And it's just like, oh, oh my gosh, like the cost of daycare. I mean, we knew it was insane. But like,

Unknown Speaker 44:24
Oh my God, what's the cost now? Well, we

Emeline 44:26
haven't got any quotes, but like I've been googling, and like most places for an infant, like you can't do part time. And so they'll be like, well, full time for an infant is anywhere from like, three to $500 a week. Really?

Scott Benner 44:37
Yeah, they're gonna send the kid home gold plated. Are they just gonna keep it alive?

Emeline 44:42
I know exactly. I'm like, Are you Are there other benefits included in this? And they'll be like, no, that's just the starting price. And we're like, Oh, okay.

Scott Benner 44:50
What do they ask you? Like, do you want us to feed it while it's here?

Emeline 44:53
Right, exactly. And it's like, as high as

Scott Benner 44:56
2k. It could be as high as 2k

Emeline 44:59
I think so. Yeah. And I mean, I live in the Midwest. So I think like, it's probably a little lower here than it would be out on like either coast. But still, it's insane. You can't find

Scott Benner 45:11
like a meth cook to take care of them during the day. They gotta be everywhere. No, you can't maybe not like the best supervision, not in the main building off to the side somewhere. So if there's an explosion, obviously, the kids are safe. But now, listen, $962 that's what somebody told us in 2000. And that's why I became a stay at home dad per week or per month, it was a month, $962 a month, but you gotta remember it was 2025 years ago. I only made like, $1,200 a month. Right?

Emeline 45:44
That's like your entire salary. I mean, it's kind of a no, a no brainer. Yeah.

Scott Benner 45:48
So for I made $1,200. We were going to spend 900 on daycare, and, you know, gas would have probably eaten up, you know, another chunk of it. And we were just like, Screw it. Like, I'll, I'll stay home. Yeah, that was before it was a thing. Like I took a lot. I took a lot of shade from older men for doing this. Like, yeah,

Emeline 46:09
I mean, if we ever, if we ever got to that point where like, financially we could afford it. Like, my husband is a government employee, and I'm a union nurse. So it's like we make we make good money. But it's because we have two incomes. And I'm always like, yeah, if that day ever comes where one of us miraculously stumbles upon a job that pays us insanely well, like, I think it would be worth it to stay home. But I don't foresee that happening in our future, at least not for a while.

Scott Benner 46:35
We couldn't afford it. Like that's an air quotes thing. You don't I mean, like, we needed that money. But we just we were going to be giving it away one way or the other. And as I mentioned earlier, the baby was already coming. There wasn't a lot you could do about

Emeline 46:45
it. Right? Exactly. It's like you got no option. You just got to do it. This is what

Scott Benner 46:49
we're doing now. The actual act of staying home was beneficial beyond words, honestly. I'm sure Yeah. For them. People say

Emeline 46:59
that. I've I've heard a lot of people say that, like, you know, they never they never regret quitting their job to be a stay at home parent. And I think well, there's a lot. It's like a, it can be a very rocky road. Like I think people in the end from Pete from people that I know that have stayed home, or quit their jobs to stay home with their kids. They'll say like, it's so worth it. Even if there are like the worst days in the world, I still wouldn't, I wouldn't have chose a different path.

Scott Benner 47:25
No, I agree. 1,000,000%. Honestly, I can be like, you know, flippant, but, you know, to be completely serious. It was, it was the best experience of my life, I see what it did for my kids, it was very valuable for them. There were some long ass days that felt like they weren't going to end and some long weeks, it turned into long months. And I can still 25 years later sing the theme song to a lot of mindless children's shows. But overall, what it did for them, like the comfort like I can even see it after my son went off to school. And then Arden was younger. So I was still home. Like even that knowledge that when you come home, there's somebody there like that there's a home base, like kind of thing it's manned, I think is a big deal for them. You know, yeah, a lot a little kind

Emeline 48:10
of like rewires the brain in a way to know that there's always going to be somebody there. Well,

Scott Benner 48:14
plus, if you if you can avoid that thing we were talking about earlier, is that, that whatever that drawl is to be overly critical or concerned about unimportant things. And just use that radar to look out for the important stuff that you know, not every five seconds, but when big things come up, or things do you think, oh, we should address that later. Or take some time to talk about that. Being home with them allows that kind of mental space to recall those things. And to bring them back up and address them and things like that. Like but when you're running. And then when you're finally home. It's we got to cook, wash those children off, eat clean up. Realize we can your time is gone. Yeah, realize we can't have sex because we're exhausted. be upset about that. watch something on television, scroll on my phone and go to sleep. That literally your free time, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, then you get up on Saturday. And you know, there's 1000 things to do. It's you know, that's tough. I will admit that the free time was never free. But it was more like unencumbered, less encumbered time.

Emeline 49:18
Yes, exactly. Yeah. A different. It's a different type of free time than what it would have been if you you and your wife were both working right?

Scott Benner 49:26
No, for sure. And then she resented it at one point that I was staying home. I don't know if she ever used that word. But I mean, I saw it right. In fairness, I take him to the zoo on a nice day and send like a photo and she was in an office. So you know, I might have pissed me off. So she was probably sitting there going, Oh, is this what I'm paying for today? Like Yeah. But, but yeah, but it's it's incredibly fulfilling. It's been the best part of my life. It's a large part about why, you know, I'm as happy as I am now. And I think as happy as my kids are so right. I can't tell my wife. I don't ask her Love it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They're

Emeline 50:02
in college. They're not gonna give you real honest answers. Probably. Oh, I

Scott Benner 50:06
met Kelly. I don't ask her if she's okay. It's her fault. She shouldn't have got pregnant. She should have seen me and run the other way. I don't know what she was thinking. She should have never let me trick her into marrying me. That's for sure. Oh, that's funny. This boy, boy trick you.

Emeline 50:20
Well, we were friends for a while. But we we got engaged. Like when I was. I think I had been out of college for like, maybe six months. We got married pretty young.

Scott Benner 50:30
Yes. Yeah.

Emeline 50:32
Part. Part of me is like, we never really knew anything. Anything different from mine. What

Scott Benner 50:38
were you escaping? Bad parents? What is it? You haven't told me about a bad house? What do you try escaping

Emeline 50:44
anything? It was very, we just part of it is okay. We went to a small Catholic College. We are not Catholic. But it's kind of hard when it's like you go to a school like that. Because everyone's getting married and everyone's getting engaged in something you're like, Okay, well, we've been dating for two years. Why don't we just do that too. And obviously, it was the right decision. But I think if we hadn't gone to a small school like that, we would have been like, oh, you know, we can we can wait a couple of years, we can have a long engagement. But instead we were like six months at school. Let's do

Scott Benner 51:16
married to John's Patrick's and Mary's getting married where you went to school? And was there? Yes, yeah. You're pressured by Catholics? Is that what happened?

Emeline 51:27
It definitely is like a little world of its own.

Scott Benner 51:30
Can I call this episode Catholic peer pressure? Maybe I can? Sure. You can call whatever you want. Well, actually, that's true. It's my pockets, do whatever I want. But it's wonderful. So is there anything we haven't talked about that we should have? Like, I want to make sure we're hitting your points? I

Emeline 51:45
don't think so. No, yeah, I just, I think, kind of being diagnosed as an adult and going like through pregnancy is, it's kind of been, it's been a whirlwind. And it's kind of one of those things where you're like, This is gonna be like, I'm gonna look back on this one day and like, and hopefully be like, oh, yeah, this has changed my life for the better. That type one diabetes part. Obviously, the having a child part will change my life for the better, actually,

Scott Benner 52:10
I mean, the kid ends up, you know, being a real asshole. I don't know. He will know that for decades since mine, oh, no,

Emeline 52:20
it'll be a while before we figure that out. But I think part of me is like, you know, all of this hard work. And like, all of the tears and all the struggles, like, it's kind of like, make me a better person eventually. Right. And I think part of it is like, you know, I've taken care of a couple of patients working as a labor and delivery nurse that come in to be induced because they have type one diabetes, and it and it does feel almost kind of like an honor to be able to take care of them. Because it's like, we're sometimes like the only person on their medical care team that gets it. That is nice. But sometimes you do wonder you're like, God, like, this is just like a really sucky situation. But hopefully, I mean, hopefully, one day down the road, I'm going to look back on it and be like, Okay, I learned a lot. I liked the

Scott Benner 53:03
way you think about it. And I think that again, you do get what you expect. It's not just in diabetes, but in life, too. So if you expect that having a baby, and if you expect that having a challenge that you're rising to, will make you a better person, I bet you it. Well, you know, I think a lot of that is attitude.

Emeline 53:20
You know, I will say though, having only been diagnosed for as long as I have, like, I came to accept it fairly quickly. Like I was very like, on board with like, alright, well, I can't change this. Now. I'm gonna have to just accept it. And I think part of me is kind of like, I could have been in denial for a long time course. It just wasn't worth the energy for me, because I just knew there was nothing I could do about it. Yeah,

Scott Benner 53:42
hey, this doesn't happen very often. But you're definitely one of the people that I'm thinking while we're talking. I'm going to keep this podcast going for five more years. So you can come back on again. Like, seriously,

Emeline 53:52
I would love that. And then I'll have a five year old that screaming in the background. But I'm like, You know what, Scott, this wasn't worth it. I gotta

Scott Benner 53:59
tell you something, Scott, first of all, you are right, this kid is a little dick. Now, the other thing is, my husband is still bitching at me when I forget something, and still got that government job. I don't see anybody trying to do better for me. I had to stay home anyway, we're broke. It's fine. But no, no, I mean, I mean about the diabetes. Because, you know, you have the right attitude. You have the right knowledge. Now, I want to see if it kicks you in the teeth or if you kick it the teeth. You don't I mean, right. Yeah, but it's gonna take years to find out. So now you've motivated me to keep the podcast going longer. It's 2024.

Emeline 54:36
Well, glad I can help. Alright,

Scott Benner 54:38
let's say 2024. Let me do some math. This is math. You can't know about this much money this many more years. I can't even stop them. Okay, I'll definitely be around in five years. Because like, I was like, at what point will podcasting allow me to retire and then I was like, never on this podcast of 9000 episodes, and I'll be like, I gotta go to the hospital now. Go to cozy earth.com

Emeline 55:12
We'll still be doing at least you'll still be doing a service for the people out there that are like what is going on?

Scott Benner 55:19
Um, all I do is the last thing somebody over here, get it on the pod. And that's just me hit the table. Yeah, they mean

Emeline 55:25
this as being like, do we need to? Do we need to call him like, is he Oh, well

Scott Benner 55:29
see, here's the plan. I don't know if you know this or not. I have an editor named Rob. Now here's the problem with Rob. He's my age. So like, the plan is, is that I know, this is weird. But I've had a conversation with my editor already. And it sounds like this. If I die. Take all of the remaining episodes and edit them up. If I still owe advertisers ads, throw the ads on. So my family doesn't have to pay back money, right? And post them once a week until they're all up. So yeah, I could this podcast could go on for easily six months before I die and you would after I died. You wouldn't even know it. How crazy would that be?

Emeline 56:06
Yeah, that's the one of the things when you require recording so frequently, it's Yeah. Well, you got a lot of content that you can just keep putting out there. You

Scott Benner 56:13
imagine it filled in the last episode. This other voice comes on and somebody's like, Hey, this is Rob. Scott died six months ago. I've been putting out the content since then. But this is the last episode. So thanks for listening.

Emeline 56:26
wouldn't lose it. They would have no idea what to do.

Scott Benner 56:29
You're amazing, wouldn't it? Oh, I only wish I could be alive to see that happen. But it's not gonna happen unless I'm kind enough to die to let it go. But I'm super skinny now. So I'm not dying. I'm good. There you go. That's true. That's true. I just sighs my pants down again.

Unknown Speaker 56:47
Oh, good for you.

Scott Benner 56:48
Thank you. A 34. You don't you're not a boy. You don't know. You're like what? I don't care. Yeah. I don't know what that means. 34. Sounds so big to me.

Emeline 57:00
I do know that men sizes and women sizes are very different. But also in context. I'm like, I don't I don't

Scott Benner 57:05
know. My waist on my pants has gone from 38 to 34.

Emeline 57:09
Did they go in like two number increments or one number increments?

Scott Benner 57:13
You know, you can actually get some in betweens, you could get a 30 Yeah, every once in a while. They'll make an off size, but it's two number increments. So that's like three sizes. It's inches. It's it's four inches. That crazy. That's, that's a lot. Yeah. Incredible. I had to buy a new belt when I started losing weight. And then I sized it put it on. And the other day, I had to take it off and cut four inches off of it. I was so excited. Today, I took all of my extra large and double extra large T shirts, and I went and donated them

Emeline 57:44
to a charity. Wow. Yes, that must feel good, doesn't it? I

Scott Benner 57:47
thought about what they cost for a second. But overall I felt good about Yeah, that's fair. I was like, give $4.08 1020 Oh, god damn.

Emeline 57:57
Like, this is a lot of money. I

Scott Benner 57:58
hope somebody appreciates this. I'm sure they will. But But nevertheless, you know, it's been pretty cool. So you are terrific. I didn't ask you. But I normally do. I know. You said you listen to the podcast that it helped you. Did you go through the pregnancy episodes?

Emeline 58:12
I did. And I think when I had first reached out to you, I I don't think I was pregnant when I reached out to you for the first time because I was like, I've gone through all of these episodes. And I still am like, there should be more. But it's such a small group of people. But I did go through a lot of them. Like having met with Jenny was helpful. And yeah, it just it's like, it's just hard because I feel like every experience you either can relate to. Or you're like, I still feel like I don't can't relate to anything. And I feel like it was kind of somewhere in the middle. And I appreciated the insight from the episodes. But also it was like, Oh my God, where where's this other stuff about being diagnosed as an adult? Like it's kind of? Yeah,

Scott Benner 58:59
it's it's tough because I find that if you do too specific information, like if the contents too ultra specific. It's not relatable, and only people who think that it relates to them will listen to it. And so that's why I've kind of gone more the route like the Pro Tip series, because I think honestly, the Pro Tip series can help you be pregnant. No problem. It's just yeah, the variables are just going to be supercharged, right? Yeah. But but if you start saying this episode is for, I don't know, blond haired people with brown eyes who are between five, six and five, nine who got type one diabetes in their 30s You're going to be like, no one's gonna listen to it. I'm going to be out of business and there won't be a podcast. So you can't get to drill down or you just you end up eliminating too many possibilities for people to listen. Right.

Emeline 59:47
And there are some podcasts episodes to that I listened to that. Like, I mean, you throw the little synopsis on there. Not even that but it's like you relate to a more than an episode that you thought you were going to relate to Just because of, you know, the perspective that the person has, oh,

Scott Benner 1:00:03
yeah, I can't say this because it'll sound like I'm saying it just to say it, but you should listen to all of them. There's something in every one of them. Like if you don't hate me too much, listen to all the episodes, because I've listened to

Emeline 1:00:15
a lot of them. It's just like, it's working your way through all of them. That's taken me. I'm

Scott Benner 1:00:19
prolific and you can't you can't come down on me for that. I record the podcast once a once a day, Monday through Friday. So I mean, look at your Yeah, I'm recording again in two hours today. I'm doing a thing with Dex comms. What? Is he the EVP? Maybe Jake,

Emeline 1:00:38
Jake's come on your post about that on

Scott Benner 1:00:39
Facebook. Yeah, Jake's coming on to talk about what do they call him that knew that the CGM for people who don't use insulin stello? What does it call? I don't know. Oh,

Emeline 1:00:49
I know what you're talking about. But I also can't remember the name of it. But I've seen I saw an article about it.

Scott Benner 1:00:54
Yeah. So like, we're gonna do a little chalk talk about that. I'll hit him with a couple of questions about g7 and stuff like that. But then tomorrow, I recorded one, and at three, I have a 430 call with an advertiser. I record twice on Monday, once on Tuesday, once on Valentine's Day, and I always got that to happen. And then somehow I have twice on Friday, but have off on Thursday. So but off from recording, but anyway, seriously, 1-234-567-8910 1112 1314 1516 1718 19 I'm recording 28 times in February.

Emeline 1:01:31
So it's a full time job

Scott Benner 1:01:33
is a real job, that's for sure. But I can't afford daycare now that I don't need it anymore.

Emeline 1:01:39
Okay, you're you've outgrown that phase of your life and yet, they still

Scott Benner 1:01:41
want money by the way they do. In case you're wondering, my oldest son's birthday is in two weeks. He is two years younger than you and you are just a tiny human being. And he still looked at me the other day and said my car needs a battery. I don't know how to take care of that. So

Emeline 1:02:02
okay, to be fair, if my car battery died, I would I would literally go to my husband and be like either Can you help me fix this or I'm just going to take it into the dealer and pay however much they want to charge me for it. The

Scott Benner 1:02:13
Go machine won't go. Alright, well, I think the best thing we came up with here today is using meth cooks as daycare but you you all listening my heart something better? I don't know. Am I thanks so

Emeline 1:02:28
much for doing this with me. Of course. Thanks so much for having me. It

Scott Benner 1:02:32
was my pleasure. Hold on one second. Okay. Okay.

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