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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 1216 of the Juicebox Podcast. I have a returning guest today

First things first, if you haven't heard episode 487 called From Russia with sarcasm, you are missing out. That was 14 year old Sophia talking to me about how she found the podcast, got her parents to get her devices that she needed and figured out her own world with diabetes fantastic episode 47 From Russia with sarcasm but today, it's three years later and Sophia is back to check in and a lot has happened in her life. Please don't forget that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your health care plan or becoming bold with insulin. If you're looking for community around type one diabetes, check out the Juicebox Podcast private Facebook group Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes, but everybody is welcome type one type two gestational loved ones. It doesn't matter to me. If you're impacted by diabetes, and you're looking for support, comfort or community check out Juicebox Podcast type one diabetes on Facebook

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Sophia 2:28
17.

Scott Benner 2:29
That part? I don't understand. It's been three years since we recorded.

Sophia 2:33
It has been three years. Yes.

Scott Benner 2:35
Oh, wow. That's crazy. I had no idea. Honestly.

Sophia 2:39
It was around this time, wasn't it? Or March?

Scott Benner 2:43
I'm not certain. I honestly, Sofia I've recorded like what episode number were you? Do you remember?

Sophia 2:50
I could find out? Yes. 400 something and you've recorded 600 More episodes since we talked?

Scott Benner 2:57
Yeah, that's the thing. I was gonna say you were 487. And I put up 1082 today. So yeah, my my like feeling for time is a little screwy. But not for you. I remember so fondly having that conversation with you. So let's recap for people just briefly in case they didn't hear 47 when you reached out the first time, it was one of those emails that I get where I'm like, There's a child emailing me to be on my podcast. And that's and now that you're 17 Do you even see that? That's weird.

Sophia 3:28
I don't think it's weird. I think I think every single teenager feels that way. But I never felt 14.

Scott Benner 3:36
I understand. So to you. You just had an idea. And you were going to try it. Yes. Okay. So we go on to have this really lovely conversation where I feel like can I give you what my remembrance is of like, if you told me like, give me the Cliff Notes of Sofia's first episode, I would say you're 14. You were living in Russia. That's where you were from. You got type one, and did not like the care you were receiving. So went online to figure out how to take better care of yourself. Found the podcast went back to your parents kind of like strong arm them into getting you technology that you needed, and then figured out the whole thing by yourself using the podcast and had like really great results. Is that pretty accurate?

Sophia 4:24
That's I'd say that's fairly accurate. Yeah.

Scott Benner 4:26
Okay. I tell you I really enjoyed the episode. What ends up happening is that the episodes called From Russia with sarcasm because you and I appear to get into like the most sarcastic conversation I've had in a really long time that goes on for almost the entire time we're doing it. Is that your remembrance? That

Sophia 4:44
is Yeah, and it's funny because recently at my college, we re listen to the episode which is how I emailed you again because I suddenly remembered that I promised you and I didn't. But we listened to Do it and everybody was like you did not change a bit. Time.

Scott Benner 5:04
Wait, who did you listen to it with?

Sophia 5:06
I just have a, like a study group. The college I go to, and we were reminiscing about the stuff we did when we were younger and for the Cure podcast came up.

Scott Benner 5:20
You were just like I was on a podcast one time. Yeah,

Sophia 5:24
that was those things what was said? Yeah, and we listened to the whole thing on two times speed.

Scott Benner 5:31
Why can't kids sit back and just enjoy an hour? How come it has to be on two times speed?

Sophia 5:34
Okay, it's final season.

Scott Benner 5:37
Okay. you're low on time. I understand. But you're in America now?

Unknown Speaker 5:42
I am. Yes,

Scott Benner 5:44
I don't You don't need to tell me exactly where you are. I'm not asking that. But how did you end up here?

Unknown Speaker 5:48
I don't know.

Sophia 5:53
It's been a few years, surely accident accidental. So we were hoping to get a visa before. Because we lived in the US briefly when I was very young. But like, the hopes were very low, because that's how the immigration process here is. And then we just suddenly get an email from the agency that was like, Hey, you can come live here if you want now, as a few years ago, that was in 2021.

Scott Benner 6:25
So maybe not be about a year after you and I actually spoke.

Sophia 6:30
Yeah, I think it was about like a year and a half. Okay,

Scott Benner 6:33
so you've been living here for a couple of years before college? In my mind. I thought maybe you came here to go to school?

Sophia 6:39
No, yeah. I graduated high school here, actually. Oh,

Scott Benner 6:43
wow. Okay. So you and your parents are all here

Sophia 6:47
is just me and my mom. It was me and my brother, but there's a situation. It's just me and my mom.

Scott Benner 6:53
It was you and your brother and your mom now? Okay, and now it's just you and your mom? Okay. Yeah, the situation isn't like horrible. I hope. You don't have to

Sophia 7:04
tell me but committed suicide a month ago.

Scott Benner 7:06
Oh, my God, Sophia. How are we? Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. That's the it's still

Sophia 7:14
in the denial phase. So

Scott Benner 7:17
you'll be dealing with it that way.

Sophia 7:19
I'll be dealing with it after finals.

Scott Benner 7:23
I gotcha. Oh, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize I wouldn't have pushed. I thought he went back home to be a mobster. I wish, you know, maybe that's just the story. You can tell people

Sophia 7:33
that would have been a funnier story to tell, but maybe not right now in this like, climate? For

Scott Benner 7:38
sure. Oh, you know what? Yeah, forget that. I didn't say any of that. You went home to be a peacekeeper. Let's say that. Well, I'm so sorry. Was this? Can I ask you one question about it. completely unexpected, or not? Unexpected?

Sophia 7:53
completely unexpected. He was just like, we talked to a week prior to that. And like he was still attending all of his classes. And he was still because he lived in California away from us. And like, one day, we he missed our family call that we scheduled for every week. And like the next day, we get a suicide now. Through like an email. Send a text message or

Scott Benner 8:23
text message. Oh, my gosh. And by the time you receive that it was I imagined too late.

Sophia 8:28
Yeah, he was a computer science major. So what he did was he set out automated text messages to everybody that came at one same exact time. That was already too late.

Scott Benner 8:40
Oh my gosh. Well, that's, that's terrible. I'm sorry for you and your family and everybody who knew him and loved him. And that's really terrible. Yeah, okay. Well, was this before you and I set this up? Or after? It was

Sophia 8:55
I? Oh, my perception of time is very messed up right now. And I'm not sure actually it was on Halloween. Oh, it might have been a plot from my friends to distract me. If I'm being honest. Now

Scott Benner 9:10
we have the whole story. Okay. Now we understand. Do you think you can do this? Is it okay? Yeah.

Sophia 9:14
Again, complete denial stage, which I'm completely aware of. I'll deal with it after finals. Okay,

Scott Benner 9:20
what year of school you're in right now.

Sophia 9:22
I'm a freshman in college.

Scott Benner 9:24
Oh, wow. It's your first year. Oh my god. Yeah. Did you decide on what you're going to study? Are you still figure Oh, what is it?

Sophia 9:31
I'm going for a bachelor's in biomedical engineering. And then I want to transfer straight to an MD PhD.

Scott Benner 9:41
Yeah. What do you hope to do when you're all finished?

Sophia 9:45
I can't decide between endocrinology and urology because because endocrinology is very close to home and that's not great in the scientific world. And neurology is just fascinating. Gotcha.

Scott Benner 10:01
So the thing you really are drawn to, and the thing that you would like to really help with. Yeah,

Sophia 10:08
is endocrinology, to be honest. Yeah. I

Scott Benner 10:11
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Sophia 13:43
I think I would just do auto immune diseases in general. I've done that a bit. I've, I have an internship with a like laboratory at a university. And before that, even in my senior year of high school, I partnered on a research paper for a theoretical model for a cure of type one. And it's just it's everything is so interesting how it's connected to so many systems in the body that we don't even comprehend. It's yeah,

Scott Benner 14:16
all the autoimmune stuff. Have you been listening to the podcast? Since you've recorded or did you stop at some point?

Sophia 14:22
Yeah, I've I'm not listening as often because of the the moving and everything but I still do listen, you pick it

Scott Benner 14:30
up, okay. The reason I asked is because I've come to start asking people at the beginning of the, you know, at the beginning of their interview, like is there any other autoimmune in your family? And there's just so many times that someone says, oh, yeah, no, and then they think about it longer and they go and then I start prompting them. How about celiac? Oh, yeah, that there is that and then you start and then before you know what they're like, Oh, my dad has been a Lago and And you know, I have a But then here's the thing is a lot of people bring up up a family member who's bipolar. Yeah, right, that happens a fair amount. And, you know, I know that the research on like bipolar disorder, sometimes it'll skirt around the idea that maybe there's some auto immune impacts, but doesn't really ever come out and say it. But I mean, at this point now, over 1000 episodes, all these people who've said it over and over again, I keep thinking, well, that has to be connected somehow. And then what else was connected? You know, I mean, stress anxiety, like that kind of stuff.

Sophia 15:35
So basically, another recent like research area of of type one that I can see from my experience is that it's connected to your nervous system. Well, auto immune your endo system endocrinological system is connected to your IQ through a pathway, I think it's called the collagen, collagen, nergic, auto, anti inflammatory pathway. But don't quote me on that. It's effects like the oscillations in your cells, which prompts autoimmune attacks. Interesting.

Scott Benner 16:10
Well, you cut out for a second though it's connected to

Sophia 16:14
I don't want to say the exact name on the internet. He's I feel like I've pronounced it wrong. And I'll

Scott Benner 16:21
you'll be embarrassed or you'll do the right thing. Oh, I do. Remember you feeling like that. Where are you? Are you self conscious about accents still? And words?

Sophia 16:31
I guess slightly. I'm just worried that I'll say the wrong scientific thing gets

Scott Benner 16:35
somebody going in the wrong direction. But you Yeah, but you're wondering about the connection as well.

Sophia 16:39
Yes, yeah. Well, there's so much of research has focused on neuro immuno modulation, which is so interesting, because this is not what we expected when we first started studying type one,

Scott Benner 16:54
right? That these things could be connect well, how about this one? GLP medications are very, kind of in the in the news right now. And a lot of people are using them. And they start off as, oh, it's going to be a type two diabetes drug they think. And now a number of years later, as it gets more and more into the population. I'm seeing people talk about, you know, ears Danlos Syndrome. Like, yeah, I found it very interesting thread on Reddit, about people talking about how their GLP medication is making their joint pain go away. Which is fascinating. You know, just a lot of other things that it's accomplishing. See, Think like, you know, this one little medication, right, like the GLP, one GLP tube to what GeoIP? Right, I think those are kind of the the cocktail, it's in some of them. And women who have been, like, unable to get pregnant for ever, are suddenly on these medications for something else, and popping up pregnant all over the place. Yeah, you don't I mean, like, what else is connected? You know, it just because, you know, you hear all the time, like, Oh, she has type one diabetes, but she has PCOS. And those two things start to seem like they're going hand in hand. And, you know, or the, I hope I'm saying your standard was correctly, because it's spelled oddly for me. But you know, just your connective tissue being too, like stretchy basically. And you know, Pete, like when you can like hyperextend your elbows or like that kind of stuff. Like that's an autoimmune issue that even after they diagnosis for you, what, what you're told is, there's nothing you can do, except go to physical therapy, and strengthen the muscles around the joints and help support them. That's it. There's, we don't know anything else about it. So, yeah, I'm just I can't wait to figure out what everybody else figures out. And that's going to be like your generation of doctors and scientists.

Sophia 18:47
Like we're already connecting very strange things to autoimmune diseases. For example, even Schizophrenia has now been connected to autoimmune causes. Oh, yeah.

Scott Benner 18:56
Oh, please. I think I figured that out with a podcast. So I'm glad doctors were able to figure it out. Yeah, just really fascinating stuff. Or even just how many people like I know right now, it's, you know, a lot of people say that they're anxious. But I've been doing this for years, where people talk about, like, what else is going on with you? And they're like, Well, I have some anxiety or I'm depressed. We're, and it just seems to follow along. And so do you think there's a I mean, I know you're just a freshman in college, but I'm not trying to put the pressure of the world on you. But do you feel like there's a way to figure out what's happening?

Sophia 19:29
What's happening? Like, the whole picture in the whole world?

Scott Benner 19:33
No, no, like, in people's like, why are people's immune systems like just like a, and doing all these weird things? You know,

Sophia 19:43
I think that there's never going to be a complete understanding of the human body. Because it's, I can to study in quantum mechanics where we just cannot understand why something happens the way it does, but I think a lot of the human creations that we're not supposed to be constantly around our bodies have definitely caused an impact on them. And we're we're definitely being very self destructive.

Scott Benner 20:18
You're talking about pollution, plastics process. Yeah, stuff like that.

Sophia 20:24
Even technology and the constant like we, we microwaves that are around us.

Scott Benner 20:33
Yeah. So all these things are just they take time. Like you have to have these experiences over and over so people can see through lines and go, Oh, this is what's impacting that. And, you know, the GLP is a great example of it, right? Like, the first thing that the that the research shows is, it is telling your brain you're not hungry. It's making you feel full, because it's slowing down your digestion, which is impacting your insulin usage, you're using, not as much insulin, because that's happening. People are losing weight. They see it over and over again. They go, Okay, this is a weight loss drug, you know, but hey, how about people's a onesies are coming down to when they have diabetes? Oh, it's a diabetes drug. And then somebody with diabetes takes it who has PCOS, and they go, Oh, that lady got pregnant. It's only going to be a couple of years before they go, hmm. People who are having trouble conceiving if they have PCOS symptoms, and blah, blah, blah, this might help them with that. And for me, Sophia, the reason I know a little bit about it, is because I started taking it in March this year. Okay. And I've lost 40 pounds. Oh, my gosh, right. But I haven't changed anything else about my life? And it's very interesting. Yeah, yeah. So I would tell you that for my entire life, I have thought my body doesn't work, right. And I can't really put more of a fine point on it than that. Like, I eat food, I don't feel well. But I don't have celiac. And, you know, I retain a lot of fluid like you and I could go out and have a normal meal together. And I'll show up the next day, I'll be literally like two pounds heavier. I taught myself to like, restrict food through my life, eat very small, like portions of things, very specific stuff. Because if I didn't, I would just keep gaining weight and keep gaining weight and keep gaining weight. And no matter what I did, I couldn't get back to a reasonable weight. I started going along thinking, well, this is me, right? Like this is what's wrong with me. There's nothing we're ever going to do about it. And then one day, this doctor says you should try this. And I take this medication, and no lie. I look like a completely different person. And I feel different. And my body works now. And like, you know, I haven't like, I don't know, Sophia if you know the phrase run to the bathroom. But I haven't had to, like emergency go to the bathroom in a year. In a year. It hasn't occurred to me to like, oh my gosh, I'm in trouble. You know, like, we people, like, you know, a person you take them to a restaurant and then you know, they disappear afterwards. I mean, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That would have been me, like at one point in my life, like, if you go out to eat doesn't matter what I have. We should go home now because I'm going to need to go to the bathroom at some point. And doesn't happen anymore. That's

Sophia 23:16
very interesting. Yeah. Did you measure your blood markers, or anything before? And after?

Scott Benner 23:22
I did get? Yeah, complete, like blood panels done right before I started, and actually, I'm up to have them repeated

Sophia 23:27
soon. I would be very curious to see the difference. I'd

Scott Benner 23:31
be happy to send them to you. Don't worry, you're 17. But I'll give you my blood work door.

Sophia 23:35
Hey, I'm 17. But I already I didn't know I have no nothing to say

Scott Benner 23:41
to that. You're gonna say I've seen some? Is that what you're about to say? I was going

Sophia 23:45
to say that. But I decided to stop myself from cursing on the podcast.

Scott Benner 23:51
Okay, I'll curse for your door. Yes. So I just think that's insane. Like, they get a really obvious like that it's a through line. Like, now somebody needs to pay attention to it. And and see it through. You

Sophia 24:04
know, yeah, but the problem isn't just paying attention to it. The problem is the whole scientific method takes so much longer to actually even to, like release a research paper, it would take at least a year, at minimum, like most of the research papers, I finished with my internship a year and a half ago or two are only now getting, like, published Yeah,

Scott Benner 24:30
but here's why I think that's not going to matter with the GLP is because there are so many people who are overweight or who have diabetes, who are going to be eligible for the medication. The doctors are going to see it working for people. So they're going to prescribe it all over the place. And then you're gonna get these other I don't want to call them fixes but like you're gonna get these other results that nobody's looking for or expecting. And after enough people start reporting it back. It will Point science in those directions. And I think that's what's going to happen like with the PCOS with it, like, I mean, GLP is are not a new, they're not new. But in the hands of people like ozempic, we go V, mon Jarno, these ones that are like have been in the news for like last year and a half or so like, you know, when basically when famous people started turning up, then you're like, hey, what just happened, they're like, great, you know, like that when that started. And then people realize that then people with money started cash buying it, and then it started working. So now insurance companies are starting to cover it, and it's starting to go, it's starting to grow like that. What

Sophia 25:35
you're saying is that they're the new hair.

Scott Benner 25:39
Well, they're, they're definitely the new test group, and they don't know it. Because you're gonna take it for weight. And like me, then start going, hey, you know, it's funny, I don't like this doesn't happen to me anymore. Or, you know, or somebody's gonna go on Reddit and go, Hey, I started a GLP. And, you know, I have eerste Danlos Syndrome, and all my symptoms are gone. And then somebody else is gonna go Holy hell, that happened to me, too. And then before you know it, I'm looking at a Reddit thread with 15. People who think that their symptoms from danlos have been completely like removed by a GLP medication. Now, I don't know if that's true or not. But that's the that's the way that stuff starts are a Facebook group full of women who are losing weight. And then one of them just goes, Hey, I got pregnant, I've been trying to get pregnant for 10 years. And someone else jumps into the thread and goes, Oh, my God, that happened to me. And before you know it, there's 20 Women in there going I recently, like people who were not practicing birth control anymore, because they were like, you know, the world doesn't, isn't gonna let me have a baby. And then they go on a GLP medication, they all get pregnant. And then they realize while they're talking, you know, I used to have a lot of bad PCOS symptoms that I don't have anymore, either in that weird, and then boom, you've got a study group. And then it just has to get back to the scientists, and they have to do the actual research on it so they can figure out the dosing that will help people for specific

Unknown Speaker 26:57
things. Yeah.

Sophia 26:59
And that really is very fascinating, because that's not what usually happens with the release of new medications. But I think that's very exciting. Yeah,

Scott Benner 27:10
no, it's this one little caveat that we were all that so many of us needed to lose weight or had diabetes, that this one medication is getting spread out over the population in weird different ways. Now, I don't know. Obviously, I don't know the rest of it. I tell people all the time. Like if I end up growing a tail from using a GLP medication, you know what I'll tell you, Sophie, if that happens, I'll say nothing's as bad as skinny feels good. That's what I'm gonna say.

Sophia 27:34
Okay, that's starting to sound very much like diet culture.

Scott Benner 27:38
I'm sorry, I'm just gonna tell you, I don't have any. I'm just saying I don't think I'm gonna grow a tail. But if I did, I'd have to really think about it, I'd be like, I can just get close that a tail fits into. So I don't know what's going on. But

Sophia 27:51
having a tail would be really cool. So I wouldn't let me see. What's

Scott Benner 27:54
even the problem with it. Now, I don't know where I would stop horn out of my forehead. Maybe I say no to that, you know, but I'm just saying like, at the moment, you're gonna, it's gonna be crazy. And, and for type ones as well. So I know right now that that medication is not okay for type ones, but, but there are type ones taking it for weight, who are seeing significant decreases in their insulin needs. Yeah,

Sophia 28:19
it happened kind of that way with metformin, too, because I was prescribed Metformin in Russia, which isn't approved in the US for type one. And it like helped so much. It reduced my insulin needs by the 40%. And it makes everything so much easier. But when we came to the US, the doctor didn't like that, and wouldn't give it they removed it. They wouldn't Yeah. And like, my, I had to readjust everything by a factor of one and a half probably

Scott Benner 28:56
does have other impacts on you stopping the Metformin. I

Sophia 29:00
wasn't paying that close attention. I was more focused on having to readjust all of my insulin needs.

Scott Benner 29:07
Yeah, I bet 40% Yeah,

Sophia 29:11
it was a life changer in when they first prescribed it to me. And I said, to be honest,

Scott Benner 29:18
can you find another doctor?

Sophia 29:20
So we actually we moved ones stays here and both doctors in both states are on the same page on that. That's,

Scott Benner 29:28
you know, it's funny because Arden's Endo, last year started talking and saying, you know, I think I'd like to put her on Metformin. And we were trying a couple of other things first, that just never panned out. And it was Metformin would have been Ford like to kind of reduce her insulin needs a little bit, but because she was also trying to impact like her, like, her belly pain around her periods and stuff like that, right. And that doctor was thinking, you know, in that direction with metformin, and then these GRPs became, you know, So available, and then we had, you know, I had the success I had with it. And so two weeks ago art and just started on a very low dose of ozempic. Oh, really? Yeah. Now our insurance, you know, is screwing with us and everything. So we got, the doctor gave us a, um, a sample to start with. But she's like, look, this will give us six weeks to figure out another way to handle this, but I don't think she's like, I don't think Arden is going to even be taking, like a big dose of it. So, you know, the idea would be even if you had to pay cash for it through another country, let's say that it would be a pretty small outlay of money over the entire year, because you would barely be using it. So right now we're using it to try to see what's happening for and she's hoping for, like heavy period symptoms to be impacted by it. And have

Sophia 30:49
you noticed any differences thus far, it's only

Scott Benner 30:51
been, she's done two injections. So she's like nine days into it. Okay, I think the first place we'll be able to see if something happens is the next time her period comes around. So we're waiting for that probably. Yeah. So hopefully, and then like, and she's only using point two, five micrograms, like the tiniest little bit right now, which is, is the ramp up dose to get your body accustomed to it. But on the ramp up dose of the same drug, you know, different brand name, but it's the same drug for me. I started losing weight, when I wasn't supposed to, like the doctor was like, This is not a therapeutic amount of this yet. It shouldn't be happening. And yet I lost four pounds the first week I was on it.

Sophia 31:31
Okay, so maybe that was water weight, the first definitely

Scott Benner 31:35
gonna be but that was the thing I was telling you, though, is that my body like, retains water, abnormally retained water, and I took it in and it's gone. Interesting. I'll tell you this, since we're talking about this kind of stuff. I have a number of times in my life, four or five times had to take a steroid pack for you know, something. And everybody says, Oh, I take steroids in my body, and I retain so much water. I gain weight on steroid packs. As soon as I get ramped up on a steroid pack, I can do the second day of it. I pee out all the extra water in my body. Like I'm never. Yeah, it works backwards on me. So it's very curious. I'll be a doctor and figure it out.

Sophia 32:18
Can I call you back in 12 years? Absolutely.

Scott Benner 32:20
I'll try to stay alive and you call me back in 12 years when I'm 64 years old.

Sophia 32:25
You're not gonna die by 64. Okay.

Scott Benner 32:27
Well, now that I'm thin, probably I'll be alright. But you know, I got to buy new clothes.

Sophia 32:33
That was nice. Yeah, except for the money spent. party didn't

Scott Benner 32:37
enjoy. That's right. I didn't enjoy. So listen to your friends said that your sarcasm is exactly the same. When you were 14 it is when you were 17. So what were they talking about? I

Sophia 32:48
kind of have a reputation at the college. I'm kind of the whole reason that our study group came to be in general, the one of the members, he's actually the head academic coach, like he already graduated, he just works there. And I just started making fun of you for no reason. So I'm fluent. And as a joke, and the other members from my class kind of joined in and we've been hanging around each other ever since. I just kind of think that. I haven't grown out of it very much. I'm not sure if that's a good thing or not. But yeah, I

Scott Benner 33:31
am a fan of it. I still use it as an adult it um, it's sometimes difficult, like personal relationships. Yeah, yeah. Nobody wants you to be sarcastic. They'd like you to be sincere. Yeah,

Sophia 33:43
I think the only thing that's changed is just the fact that I know when it's more appropriate to be used, and when it's not. You

Scott Benner 33:50
are good at it when you were a kid, but I think that was partially because you didn't know not to do it.

Sophia 33:55
Yes. That is very true. Yeah,

Scott Benner 33:58
your sarcasm was fantastic. Like, I honestly remember talking to you and thinking like, it's like talking to an adult. But you made those tell people that one thing I alluded to earlier, like you say you got type one, although How old were you when you're diagnosed? It goes left. Okay. And you went online to figure out your care on your own? How did that talk about that?

Sophia 34:26
I think a lot of it was just that I grew up during the time of the internet. It started out mostly with I wanted to understand what the sihvonen was. And then I was realizing that my numbers are not matching up with the numbers that like people on Reddit are saying are good or the Juicebox Podcast, I found it and you were talking about completely different levels of control than I was being told to. And that made me very curious and kind of frustrated in the fact that I might be doing My body farm through the care that my doctors are telling me to do. So I just tried to figure out a way that I could fix that. I didn't want to do any my body any harm, which was really frustrating, because I was doing what my doctors were telling me to do. And it was making things worse as it turned out. So I just went on the internet to see if there's any way that I could fix it myself. And I guess it kind of worked.

Scott Benner 35:34
Because you were, would you get more aggressive with insulin? Yeah.

Sophia 35:39
And I found ways to get the Omnipod out there, and the ducks calm. And I found new ways, like hearing other people do what you say to do for type ones made me feel better about doing it myself, because I wasn't the only one doing crazy control things.

Scott Benner 36:02
Okay, so the doctor tells you one thing, and then you realize that doesn't seem right. But even once you figure I'd like to try something different. The actual act of doing it feels wrong.

Sophia 36:14
Yes. Because I was in a country where nobody else was doing anything like that. And it felt risky, because everybody else who is doing what you say, feels so far away. Yeah. You know,

Scott Benner 36:29
so. So it was actually valuable to hear people's stories. Absolutely.

Sophia 36:33
And I think that was part of the reason why I also reached out back then, yeah, you're

Scott Benner 36:39
not the first like, under age person to be like, I'd like to come on the podcast, I in fact, just did this one with a Canadian girl. She's like eight or nine. You know, you get that email. And you're like, hi, I want to be on your podcast. I'm, I'm 14. Do your parents know? Like, please look them into this email. And then you don't know how it's going to go. And that's the other side of it is I want to have conversations with kids. But at some point, I don't think you'll find this hard to believe Sophia. Some of them are boring. And so it's like hard to talk to them. Because they ask a question. They're like, Ah, my goodness, the podcast, you get to talk quicker and that there's all that problem, but then you get on the recording. And before I know it, like I'm starting off, like trying to be like, Oh, I'm talking to a 14 year old girl from Russia, like this is weird. And then, before I know it, I'm actually really sarcastic. Yeah. And you know, you because you couldn't hold it in, you probably weren't even trying. I would imagine. I

Sophia 37:32
was not. I was not. No, I was very nervous in the beginning. But I think you have you make the conversations flow very easily, which I think is the reason why it came out. So naturally.

Scott Benner 37:46
Oh, good. I'm glad when you listened back to it. What was your takeaway afterwards? What did you think? Well,

Sophia 37:51
I was just trying not to cringe. Because I felt like, I don't know, I was such a kid. Which sounds probably funny to you, because I'm still very young. But everything I said is just so from such a lens of a child, in my opinion.

Scott Benner 38:13
Yeah. Even just three years later, it's interesting to look back at yourself. Yeah, it'll happen again. By the way, you'll listen to this when you're 25. And you're big. I bet. Yeah. I'm sure what was that Sophia do it. But you know, you only live in the, you can only live in your reality that you have and you you're making decisions and assessing things from the perspectives that you so far half. So I actually found myself thinking recently about how differently I see people in my 50s than I even did in my 40s. And so much so, you know, more differently than I did, even when I was younger, and like decision has been granted

Sophia 38:53
the experience to talk to so many people from so many different backgrounds that I would think that your perception of the world has absolutely changed.

Scott Benner 39:01
It's crazy. There's still some stuff that I'm just like, like, I wish I could tell you, I can't tell you, but there's a big diabetes organization that said something like made like a statement online yesterday. And I thought, What the hell are you doing? Like that's, that's wrong. Like don't do that. And I think I know you are, but I don't know how to.

Sophia 39:26
You can cut it out.

Scott Benner 39:27
I can cut it out. So all these people just get to like pick up a minute later, and I'm saying something different. They're like, Well, what the hell did he say? Yeah, I I don't know, a way to say it without making somebody sad or upset. I'll tell you when it's over. Okay, okay. All right. All right. Yes. Okay. Okay, I have a note for myself at the end. I'm sorry to everybody else. I don't want to make anybody sad. But my point was that you can see that the organization is being run by younger people, which is good. But they've taken In a position on something that I think hurts people's health, and they're doing it in the name of supporting people's mental health, it's an interesting decision to make. And maybe I'll be able to talk about on the podcast at some point. But moreover, what I think will happen is I think the world is gonna yell at them online, and they're gonna stop, and that's gonna be the end of it. So, you know, we'll say, your study group, we should say hi to them very quickly, how many people are in this group? four, or five? And you guys get together? And

Sophia 40:37
how do you pretty much live at the college?

Unknown Speaker 40:39
So do you like

Speaker 1 40:41
do you like literally read together and take, like, do practice tests and things like that? Or do you just bounce stuff off of each other? How does it work? Working kind of like a collective like that.

Sophia 40:51
We just sit together, all of us has mostly different classes, we usually just have one class in common. But I have again, the reputation of not really studying but doing everything but studying. I still get my work done. Just not there. They they're very good at actually focusing in blocking me out.

Scott Benner 41:10
So you're the problem. I am the problem. Yes. Sophia, I'm on your LinkedIn at the moment. Yeah, yeah. How do you get away with being so academically successful, but not paying attention?

Sophia 41:26
I don't think I'm academically successful. To be honest. You don't I did my best in high school. I kind of sped run high school to be honest. You why I graduated a 16.

Scott Benner 41:40
I know I know. You're too young for to be in. So so how can you say that you graduated when you were 16? But you didn't do well academically? I

Sophia 41:49
mean, I just I don't really like accepting achievements as a.

Scott Benner 41:53
I think that's how you end up being successful, by the

Unknown Speaker 41:56
way. Maybe? Yeah,

Scott Benner 41:58
maybe it doesn't feel does it feel boastful to you that you don't have a problem with that? Do

Sophia 42:04
I It does feel slightly. Things click in my head very easily. Math makes so much sense immediately to me. And I just, it's so fun to me. And that sounds so not humble when I say it, and I hate saying that out loud.

Scott Benner 42:26
Okay, well, I think it just sounds representative of who you are. But I appreciate how you feel. Let's see how dorky you are with math. Did you teach yourself Python for fun? And

Sophia 42:36
teach myself Python for fun, but I taught myself differential equations for fun.

Scott Benner 42:41
Yeah. Alright. So we all see where you're at. Okay? Because, you know, the entire time we're talking, I'm doing the math. And I was like, when would she have to be born to be a freshman at 17? That doesn't work out no matter how I

Sophia 42:54
know. Yeah, I graduated at 16. And I am going to a community college until I turned 18. So I don't move out until I'm 18.

Scott Benner 43:04
Could you get accepted at another school, but you're not old enough.

Sophia 43:07
So I could get accepted. And I could have gone. But the thing was, they have so many restrictions. The one school that I will transfer to Johns Hopkins. They have a lot of rules for underage students. So I just decided that it would be easier to transfer when I'm 18 and get some cheaper credits while I'm at it at a community college. Very nice.

Scott Benner 43:33
Good idea. All good ideas. And I love the way you just slipped in Hopkins like it was nothing like that's a humble brag right there. Sophia.

Unknown Speaker 43:40
I take that.

Scott Benner 43:44
I just said it to make you feel worse. Yes. So you'll be here with me. You're gonna be a couple hours for me when you get there. Oh, really? Yeah,

Sophia 43:50
I'm here in New Jersey, right? Yeah, I

Scott Benner 43:52
drive past. Well, my my kids are in the south right now. So I drive through that area a lot. But my son's coming home. So a little less. Okay. Arden is going to school in Georgia. So yeah.

Sophia 44:04
And she's getting like in design degree. Yeah, that's fashion

Scott Benner 44:09
design. Nice. We just spent a couple of days thrifting which was a planned event with Arden and my wife and myself. So we went to all these thrift shops, one of the boroughs in New York, and we spent like a day and a half, like just walking the city and going like from thrift shops to thrift shops. So she could like somehow pick clothing that no one would ever put together and make these like crazy outfits that like we she couldn't walk. I'm not over exaggerating. We couldn't walk for more than five minutes without somebody stopping her to tell her how much they loved her outfits. I was like, well, this. This certainly seems like she might be successful with this. That is awesome. Yeah, very cool. Thank you so much. So that she's like, oh, like Thank you. She's very nice about it. And she's like, I really, really appreciate it. Thank you very much. And then you kind of move on, but the things people say They are so like, you know, they're like, they're like, I feel how you look. Like one woman said, like, what?

Sophia 45:07
So what does she want to do with the degree?

Scott Benner 45:10
She just wants to design clothes? That's awesome. Yeah. So that's what she's trying to learn how to do. And I have to give her a ton of credit, because prior to College Art, it was not a particularly artistic person. Like she wasn't a person who sat around drawing or painting or modeling or anything like that. She just, she had a vision in her head. But she was actually, yes, by the time she was a junior in high school, she had sat us down and had this pretty, like serious conversation where she said, I either want to be an attorney, or a fashion designer. And we were like, Okay, those two things seem different. But she could have she had the grades and the aptitude for the attorney thing. And she just one day, she's like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna learn fashion. And then she got to, you know, college.

And, you know,

the first thing they do is they put you in, like, these big drawing classes. And, and we're like, are you okay? Like, you've never done this before. And she's acknowledged figure it out. And they in that first semester, like, like, she's not Picasso, like, don't get me wrong, but she taught herself to draw. And, and she's significantly better at it than you would imagine a person who had never really done it before ever, just picking it up and forcing themselves to learn how to do it was really,

Sophia 46:32
that takes a lot of dedication. Yeah, that's really awesome. Yeah,

Scott Benner 46:36
I thought so too. So that's pretty cool. But you, this just comes very naturally to you.

Sophia 46:40
It never did, up until I kind of started homeschooling myself in high school. I was never like the gifted kid in elementary or middle school. In fact, I had the worst grades in all of my classes. But at some point in high school, I just started actually looking into stuff myself. And I found my own purpose, and every subject, and for math just became my special interest, which it never was, I always thought I was, what origin never was the our ticket. I played. I was I'm a classically trained pianos, piano player. I play guitar, and I've always drawn and that the math never seemed like something that would become my thing. But it just made so much sense. And it just feels like such a beautiful language to me. Which I'm realizing sounds so nerdy right now. No,

Scott Benner 47:47
not at all. I don't think so. I think it's, it feels to me like you were like, Hey, I taught myself diabetes. I wonder what else I could teach myself? Yeah,

Sophia 47:54
I actually, I think that was the case. I think the conversation that we had really made me feel more confident in the fact that I have some ability to do stuff. And it gave me a lot of motivation to actually try in life to be honest.

Scott Benner 48:11
Wait, Sophia, I want to just take a second where if you don't want to be boastful, and it makes you feel weird. I'm okay with it. So are you saying that the conversation you and I had gave you confidence and that maybe one day you will like figure out something for people's health and I can help partially take credit for it? Is that what you're getting at? Yeah, I think so. Beautiful. Let me write that down. So I don't forget, take credit for Sofia success. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna do that. Next time I get a chance in the kitchen with my wife, but she will then roll her eyes at me and walk away. Just so you know, you can call me and I can like, support your point. Oh, okay. I'd be willing to do that. I was reading this message from someone the other day, you know, I was cooking for myself. So I was like making I don't know how everyone else's life is. But my wife still works at home, which I really wish she would get a different job and leave because it's just too much. It's supposed to be my gig. So we had this thing of not everybody's you know what I mean? COVID messed it all up. This is my house. I lived here by myself and other people came in, in the afternoon alone time I welcomed them in, I cooked for them, and then I cleaned up. They don't need to be there all day. But I was sitting around, I was cooking for myself. I was waiting for something to finish warming up. And I had my phone out and I was working. And she's like, What do you do? And I'm like, I'm working. She goes, Are you on Facebook? And I was like, Well, for me. That's work. I'm answering people and, you know, commenting on threads. And I'm like, I'm doing that she knows that by the way. But she still she screws with me. You know what I mean? So I said I have this really lovely note here from this person who says that the podcasts really significantly change and I look over at her and she's, you know, the duck hand you can make when people are talking too much with you're like, Yeah, I look over at her to see if she's interested in hearing what the person said. She's like, I help the person like what they owe. I don't want to paint her as not. She's not unfeeling about it. It's it's lovely. But and she really does know that if you got her alone, and I wasn't there to hear it, I'm sure she would say some nice stuff about me, but not in front of me, you know? And so she's like, Yeah, you help people. And I was like, I do.

Sophia 50:23
I don't blame her. It was like philosophy

is probably frustrating to constantly hear how you get immediate feedback on your job. And she probably doesn't feel as appreciated.

Scott Benner 50:36
Oh, Sofia. That's a really good point. I do make a point of telling her all the time how good she is at what she does, though. But it probably doesn't count coming from me. You think? Well, yeah,

Sophia 50:44
because you constantly get reassurance from all of your listeners, right? And you talk to them everyday directly.

Scott Benner 50:50
I actually would like me to admit this something. I'll tell you a story. So last night, I've been having a not good time being a podcaster for the last couple of weeks. It's apple has changed something about their app, and it's screwing with my downloads. And so I'm having to like, bug people and be annoying and be like, Hey, can you check your app, you know, look for the setting, it may have changed, like that kind of stuff. And it sucks. Like I hate bothering people. I hate asking people for things like my idea about the podcast is I provide it. If you find it valuable. You listen to it. I know everybody doesn't listen to every episode. I know people don't listen forever. Like I understand all the intricacies of it. But to have someone show up one day, and basically like a gremlin crawl inside of everybody's app and turn a switch so that you don't get the the episodes. That's like it literally feels like I'm fighting with Tim Cook right now. Do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like Tim Cook's in an office somewhere going, Hey, Scott took nine years to build this type one diabetes podcast into this juggernaut that it is, why don't we with him? Like that's what it feels like. It's

Sophia 52:03
more simple than that, Scott is the fact that he just works with Big Pharma and they don't want you to control everybody's blood sugar.

Scott Benner 52:09
Oh, Sophia, you're making a ton of sense here. So you think let me make sure I understand that big tech and Big Pharma are in a meeting right now. And they've decided to impact the entire podcasting landscape to stop me from helping people with their diabetes. Yes, I believe that's true as well. I'm glad I'm glad you and I are on the same page. So anyway, as crazy as that sounds, that's what it feels like. So like, it feels like I against all odds, turned a thing that nobody wanted to listen to. You don't I mean, like conversations about type one diabetes, into a thing that reached a 14 year old girl in Russia, helped her with her health, put her on a path to mathematics, and one day will make her a Nobel Peace Prize winner. And then somebody said to me, Hey, you know, just when it was exploding, like over the last two years, my podcast is exploding. It's growing in leaps and bounds. And basically, they came in turn the dial and said, this was the average download a purse that a device was accomplishing every day. And we're gonna cut that number by two thirds, or two. So

Sophia 53:20
it sucks in general. So

Scott Benner 53:22
anyway, the new episodes are downloaded just the same way as they always have been. Because I didn't actually lose listeners, right. But when most people turn on their podcast app, they get a few episodes. And then they listen to them. Now what's happening is you're getting the most recent episode, and nothing behind it. And so you wouldn't think it was there because you don't know like, I interviewed a guy yesterday, who loves the podcast. He's been listening to it for years. And when I asked him how many episodes I put out a week, he doesn't know. So like, he just, he listens to what I give him. So when he opens his podcast app every day, there's an episode there. He listens to it. If I put out the two of them yesterday, for some reason, and it didn't give them to him, he wouldn't go back and look for it. Because he think I'd be getting it if it was there. And so that's what they've done. So now, now I have to train everybody on what happened to a podcast, which nobody cares about, like, can you imagine turning on your favorite podcast and somebody being like, Oh, my God. So here's what happened. Apple bought and you're like, what the like, I don't care about this. You mean, but it's it's impactful on the podcast. Anyway, I've been having a bad couple of weeks living in this reality and getting it fixed. And last night, I had to do a little bit of work before I went to bed. And I jumped on the Facebook group. And I just said, Hey, I'm writing this thing right now. I can answer some questions or you know, if anybody just wants to chat, and at some point in that thread, somebody said I want you to take this opportunity to tell you how much you've helped me. You know, since I know you're here right now, and they wrote me a note, and it saved my day. That's awesome. And yeah, but you're right. Everybody doesn't have the ability to do that.

Sophia 55:12
Most people's jobs don't. I think I

Scott Benner 55:16
could honestly go on Facebook right now and just put up a post and somebody would come by and eventually tell me, Hey, this podcast is really helped me and I can get like a, like a boost from that. And I never really thought about it like that before. But you're right. Well,

Sophia 55:28
I you will absolutely credit you in my Nobel Peace Prize. Oh,

Scott Benner 55:33
that'd be wonderful. I'll come. By the way if I would, like I'd get on a plane. If you know, for the metal presentation, if you want to get me in. I will, if that ever happens. Okay. So if you ever get a Nobel Peace Prize, I'll come to is it Switzerland? Sweden, Switzerland? Or they should know this? I do not know they're not gonna let you in if you don't know where it's at. Oh,

Sophia 55:56
no. Okay. Well, there goes our plan.

Scott Benner 56:00
Can you imagine if I ended up in Sweden, and it was Switzerland, Oslo, Norway. Really? Wait a minute. Norway. So Norway? Yeah. Neither of us are going to be there. No, Oslo City Hall. The Peace Prize ceremony takes place in Oslo City Hall at 1pm. On the 10th of December.

Sophia 56:16
I don't want I don't feel like going to Norway. It was two days ago. That's weird. Oh, isn't that crazy? I really need to get myself together. Oh, it

Scott Benner 56:26
literally was two days ago. Had we? Not? That's insane. I wonder what else we're talking about that we're making the world do?

Sophia 56:37
Well, we have here Scott, I wanted to ask you, what do you feel about the new eyelet bionic thinkers?

Scott Benner 56:43
Ah, I had them on had a really long conversation with them. About It, like couple hours actually, with the guy that started the company. And after hearing everything he had to say, I think that the islet pump will significantly help people who otherwise did not understand their diabetes, or were never going to put the effort into it. That is

Sophia 57:09
very politically correct wording to say that you should not get it if you're listening to this podcast right now.

Scott Benner 57:15
I mean, it's gonna keep an A one C in the sevens, right? Oh,

Sophia 57:19
you're making me nervous. I am switching to it. Next one.

Scott Benner 57:22
Are you really?

Sophia 57:23
Yeah, my endo a stick kind of? Well, how

Scott Benner 57:27
come? What what are you using now?

Sophia 57:29
I'm still on the Omnipod Oh, come?

Scott Benner 57:31
Were you looking for new pump.

Sophia 57:33
I was not really but she has a very big bias against the Omni pod. So she wants me to either switch to the T slim or the new bionic pancreas. And they just came to talk to her the whole off the whole like hospital like last month to them and got every single endocrinologist there on board. So now they're all really big fans of it.

Scott Benner 58:02
Sophia, you're saying that one sales call and they're gonna switch everybody off their insulin pump?

Sophia 58:06
Yeah, pretty much.

Scott Benner 58:08
What's your agency right now?

Sophia 58:09
I was at a five foot nine before the brother. I remember the 6.5. Now.

Unknown Speaker 58:15
Okay.

Scott Benner 58:17
Your agency is gonna go up. That's don't say that Scott is going to that's it'll mean, it's the goal of the pump. The pump doesn't that I let pump is not shooting for a five or a six. I mean, they were on here saying it's targeting a seven a one C or an A one C and the sevens the idea behind the eyelet? Which I think so I'll go back to my was what I said I wasn't trying to be politically politically correct. I was actually it's what I mean. So we there are so many people in the population living with high one C's don't understand how insulin works. You know, they don't have a lot of the information that we talked about in the podcast. Either they don't have it. They don't want it they you know, maybe they have like mental health reasons they can't focus on there's a ton of reasons why like I'm not, I'm certainly not coming down on anybody for their situation. But if you're running around right now, with a seven and eight, a nine a 1011 1213, a one C and you put an eyelid on it, well, my gosh, like your life's gonna get better. Because all you have to do is say to it, you have to announce the meal, right? It's breakfast, lunch or dinner. And I'm having a small, medium or large serving those the two things you tell it, I'm having breakfast, this is a, you know, an average meal for me. You know, it's going to keep your a one C in the sevens. That is a massive thing for people. And I think most people living with diabetes using insulin. I mean, I hate to say it but I think there's more people who are living in that reality than are living in the one where you have a 591 C or you're walking around with a six two or something like that while you're in college like which is you know, everything you've been through Throw in the last couple of months on top of college and you have an agency of six and a half, that's insanely good. So I don't think that's most people's situation. That's really

Sophia 1:00:10
reassuring to hear from you. Especially because I was kind of beating myself up about it.

Scott Benner 1:00:14
No, you're doing wonderful. That's amazing. Yeah, don't don't Don't be absolutely terrific. So I've never used the eyelet personally, right. But you're going from tubeless to a tube pump. And you're a person accustomed to a five, nine a one see? Who's going to end up with anyone seeing the sevens probably?

Unknown Speaker 1:00:33
Well,

Sophia 1:00:34
I'll talk to her if I can not do that. I

Scott Benner 1:00:39
have a question. Why don't you just not tell her I'm not switching my pump. I

Sophia 1:00:43
guess I just wasn't advocating for me myself as much, because I still have the notion that maybe this doctor does know better and she is advocating for it so much.

Scott Benner 1:00:55
It sounds like to me, Sofia, that for reasons that I don't understand this lady's got what they call a bug up about Omni pod. And then somebody came in and made is that is that a term that translates? You know that one from? Yeah, okay. And then. And then someone came in and gave her a big sales push. And she's like, Okay, this is on this team now. So

Sophia 1:01:21
I came in, she was really pushing for the T slim. And she really wanted me to switch to the T firm. Now, she's really wanting me to switch the island.

Scott Benner 1:01:32
Are you on an algorithm or using dash or Omnipod? Five? Omnipod five, and you have a five nine and a six? Oh, why would you switch? You're gonna go to tubes. You're gonna go to carrying a device on you like, how come?

Speaker 2 1:01:45
I am not sure.

Sophia 1:01:49
I know. Now I'm second guessing it I had like really logical reasons. But now that we've talked I don't anymore.

Scott Benner 1:01:56
Don't forget I made you love math. The last time we spoke. You

Speaker 3 1:02:00
did this one. I'm gonna do this. The catalyst you were the catalyst?

Scott Benner 1:02:04
Sophie, I thought we agreed.

Sophia 1:02:09
For everybody listening. God will make your children love math.

Scott Benner 1:02:13
Yeah. Thank you. Good job. Well, that Oh, do you think people know math is the way? Yeah,

Sophia 1:02:18
I feel like you've said a lot on this podcast that you don't like math. I know.

Scott Benner 1:02:22
But my my son got a quantitative econ degree.

Unknown Speaker 1:02:25
Really?

Sophia 1:02:27
I did not know.

Scott Benner 1:02:29
And last night, oh my god, Sophia. Last night. He shocked that crap out of me. So he went away. He got a job. He got out of college, he went got a job. He's worked it for about a year, it was a year long contract. And at the end, he said, I'm not going to stay here. i He's living in Atlanta by himself. And he's like, I miss everybody. And I'm bored and like, you know, doesn't particularly love Atlanta. And he's like, I want to honestly the only friends he has Sophia are the gods. The people are men and women he met at work that he likes small group of friends there. And the I guess I can say this now, the drug dealers that he plays basketball with in the park. I should be more clear about that. He he said to me one day, he's like, baseballs over. I gotta get moving. He's like, I can't like he's like, I can't just keep lifting. Like I'm playing baseball. He's like, That's ridiculous. I don't need to be this big. So he's, he was like six feet tall carrying like 202 pounds on his frame, right? Like, say he was jacked up to play baseball. And he's like, so I'm gonna stop working out like this. He's like, this is how I stay in shape. So I'm gonna go play basketball. And I'm like, Okay, I was like, well, where the hell are you gonna do that? He goes on. He's like, there's parks all over the place. I'm gonna go to a park near my apartment. I'm gonna bring a ball and I'm gonna play basketball. It's like, okay, so he gets there. He said, It took him a while to like gain the trust of the people there like to actually get into a game they could see can play a little and example attic. And so then they kind of liked him and everything. He's like, but you know, the longer I've been there, I realized that most of these guys are drug dealers. Like, okay, and he's like, and he goes, they're really great guys, I guess the side of what they do for a living. And I was like, right, he goes and but he's like, at the end of the games, like, you know, we like go go back to our cars and like, change our clothes and put stuff in bags and like, take our phones out of our gym bag. He was when I'm taking my phone out of my gym bag. The other guys were pulling guns out of their gym bag. And I'm like, okay, and I said, stop going there. And he goes, they're really good games. And I was, I said, okay, and he goes, I can't find another place to play. I'm going to gain weight if I don't play basketball. So anyway, my son has made friends with drug dealers to play basketball with and he's made friends at work.

Sophia 1:04:35
But it's Atlanta, Georgia. Isn't everybody a drug dealer? I

Scott Benner 1:04:39
don't think that's the thing we should say out loud. Sophie, I don't believe everybody in Atlanta is a drug dealer. No, no, I don't think that's true.

Sophia 1:04:45
Yep. Although that might be my bluntness coming out. Also

Scott Benner 1:04:49
across the hall is apartment. This just happened again the other day. He has twice had to call the police. Oh my about screams coming from the apartment across the hall. Ah, where one man is yelling at another man, you have to let me out of here. I want to leave. So that's happened twice. By the way this the second time it happened he called 911. And do you know what happened when he called 911? In Atlanta,

Sophia 1:05:15
what happened?

Scott Benner 1:05:16
You got a message that said His call was very important, but that they couldn't pick it up right now.

And that he should leave a message

Sophia 1:05:24
that is mildly concerning. Hi,

Scott Benner 1:05:26
911. I'm upside down in the car on the expressway. What's this doo doo doo? We're sorry. So anyway, if you're in Atlanta, I'd vote for somebody who would fix that. But so he's, he's coming home. That was a really long way of saying he's coming home. And we were FaceTiming last night. And he's talking about packing. And, you know, he doesn't have enough space in his car to get his stuff home. He's selling like some like furniture and stuff like that. And I'm going to drive down to help him bring us the rest of the stuff home. So we're making plans about that. And out of nowhere, he says, You know, I think I'm gonna take a master's, I'm gonna get a master's degree. And I'm like, this is a thing that he has been like, the entire time he was in college. He's like, I cannot wait to get out of college. I'm never going to college. Again. I hate going to college, like, bah, bah, bah, and a year in the real world. And he's like, you know, if I want to get the jobs I'm looking at, I got I'm gonna have to get a master's degree. I was like, getting a master's. He thinks computer science.

Unknown Speaker 1:06:26
Nice that

Sophia 1:06:28
that would be really smart. Especially right now. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:06:32
he's been taking a lot of like, courses online this year. Python, ar, AI, Introduction to AI, stuff like that.

Sophia 1:06:41
I would recommend instead of Python, C sharp or C++, they're the leading programming languages right now.

Scott Benner 1:06:47
Is that in health?

Sophia 1:06:49
No, those programming languages?

Scott Benner 1:06:51
Yeah. But where are they being used? Mostly, most video games

Sophia 1:06:55
are either now Java based or C sharp and C++ because they are. Python is more for beginners, because the languages it uses. It's more like we talk so they're easier to comprehend. Because they are based. It's basically written like we talk. But they're not as versatile as when you use the complete vast syntax of C sharp or C++ or whatever.

Scott Benner 1:07:20
No, thank you. Yeah. So he's been doing that stuff online and getting like certifications and like growing his understanding and everything. But I think the biggest thing, is he seeing the jobs that he's looking for? They're like, you know, you need seven years of experience or a master's, or a master's he's like, so it'll take me far less time to get a master's than it'll take me to get seven years of experience working? Of course, yeah. So he's thinking about that.

Sophia 1:07:44
That's a problem. Yes, right now, because like most college students, they don't have time to get an internship or experience. But most jobs require experience right off the bat, which is why most high school students are, like, already starting to look for internships and stuff, ya

Scott Benner 1:08:00
know, it's, uh, it's certainly for anybody listening. One of the mistakes my son made in college is he was playing baseball so much that he didn't get internships. And that did screw up. Now he was able to get a good job with a subsidiary of Sony. So he got a good job this year. And he got a lot of great experience. But he's like, inside of six months of being there. He's like, I've learned everything. This job's gonna teach me. He's like, I am now just, I'm doing a task now. And I was like, okay, he goes, I have to move to get more experienced with that was this idea. Like, I'll go grab this job and build more experience here and build and build. But I think now he's thinking more like, what if I can get this master's and then kind of leap a little bit, those first couple jobs and start there?

Sophia 1:08:43
That would definitely be a really good way to go. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:08:47
that's what he's thinking. So anyway, that shocked me because the last time we talked about college, it's when he handed me his diploma and went here. You wasted a lot of money on this. And I was like, well, thank you. He said to me, after he graduated, he said, I could have taught myself everything I learned in college was six months with the internet. Yeah,

Sophia 1:09:07
yeah. Basically, what what I'm what we're learning in our associate's degree right now, it was what I taught myself last year in like, two months. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:09:16
that he was disappointed by that. And it's not it's not like a laissez faire attitude. He like, He's genuinely disappointed in the way the system works. And, you know,

Sophia 1:09:26
yeah, but you guys who don't understand you don't want like the Russian educational system, either. Or most European educational systems. There's the study. Thus far, we do not have a perfect system to be used.

Scott Benner 1:09:42
Oh, no, I think I don't think perfect. exists anywhere. It's nice to hear you say that. But I think that, um, honestly, I think it's your story. It's that your education or your opportunities are what you make of them, not what somebody gives you, not what somebody gives you. Yeah, yeah.

Sophia 1:09:59
The only reason I think I did well in high school was because I taught myself the material myself. I self studied for AP tests. And that's why I got fives and fours. Now because I took a really good class,

Scott Benner 1:10:13
right? Yeah. Same idea here, like you can take like prep courses for SATs and stuff like that, but they teach you how to take the test. Not really not, you know nothing about the information. As much it says, it's an imperfect system. But again, it does, it favors the people who are willing to put the work in have some aptitude, but also it favors people who can afford it, like so, you know, the one thing we're skipping over here is that if my son comes home, I have, there's a place for him to be like, he doesn't have to go work to stay alive. Like, we're like, look, you can come back here, if you want to go back to school, that's fine. And you know, he'll be able to do

Sophia 1:10:52
that support system, it's very important to have a support system. And that's amazing that you can give your kids that. It

Scott Benner 1:10:59
is really gratifying, honestly, to do that. I was looking forward to not supporting him in any way. But I guess I can just work a little longer. If Tim Cook would get his foot off my neck. It wouldn't be such a problem. Sofia understand. Yeah,

Sophia 1:11:14
I understand. The last time we talked by the way that was the day that our origin took her sad. Oh, was it really? Yeah, yeah. You said you have to leave to pick up the origin from her sad. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:11:28
no kidding. Well, that ended up just yet. I don't remember it ended up not mattering at all. Oh, really? Yeah. So here's what ended up happening. I don't think that art schools see a lot of interest from people who were very carefully academic in high school. Yeah. So yes. So she looked like she looked like a million bucks to them. And they were very happy to give her all the financial aid that was available to a person with her grades.

Sophia 1:11:57
Nice. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:11:58
that was very nice. Really cool. Yeah, we saved a lot of money. Because imagine, yeah, because of hardens grades in high school.

Sophia 1:12:09
So you must be really proud of her. I'm,

Scott Benner 1:12:11
I'm very proud of her. And significant actually, I'm super proud of that. She went away to college, and managed a one C so well on her own, because the one thing so you're you're living at home, like as you said, you're doing community college till you go off to college, the one thing you're gonna need to be careful of when you get off onto a campus is that the food is garbage. Yeah, yeah, it took her a lot more insulin to manage the food at college.

So you're

not going to have that kind of control with the eyelet either, by the way, I

Sophia 1:12:42
already kind of eat in a very, like low carb way anyway, because I'm both gluten and dairy free. Okay,

Scott Benner 1:12:50
well, that will actually, I mean, that'll help, obviously. And that might help you to with the pilot as well. Like, what what's your, like? What's a standard meal have as far as carbs go for you?

Sophia 1:13:01
Like no more than 10? Actually, now that I'm thinking about it?

Scott Benner 1:13:06
I mean, listen, maybe that'll work for you, then. I don't know. You don't I mean, but I don't know. I just I feel uncomfortable that that after a sales call that a doctor pushed you to change your, your insulin pump, and what did you mean that they have? She has a problem with Omni pod? Do you know what the problem is? She

Sophia 1:13:29
doesn't particularly like the control that Omni pod does. And she sees a lot of issues on her end, which I know I shouldn't be saying on your guarantee sponsored by omniva. You can say whatever you want, that's fine. Okay, well, she's seen a lot of issues with Omni pod five, PDM. DMS, like failing for especially younger children for some reason. And I think she just doesn't like the standards, it sets and house. I remember her saying how slowly it learns. Well,

Scott Benner 1:14:02
it doesn't actually learn. So I have a wonderful series about Omnipod. Five, have you listened to it? Yep,

Unknown Speaker 1:14:09
I have. Yeah,

Sophia 1:14:10
I have a great experience. The only bad five. And it's completely my fault that I got kind of manipulated into it. It's it. Well,

Scott Benner 1:14:19
isn't it interesting that you're having I mean, a five nine, with AMI pod five. And your doctor seeing other people struggle with it. And her instead of asking you what are you doing to have this success? She said, why don't you come over here with all the people that are struggling? Yeah.

What a weird thing. Yeah,

Sophia 1:14:42
I feel like that's most probably doctors. Well,

Unknown Speaker 1:14:46
I can't people think

Sophia 1:14:47
Sophia. Lead Poisoning. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:14:50
you know what? It could be that 100% i But seriously, isn't that am I the crazy one? Maybe I'm the crazy one. Why would I look at a group of people I'm struggling, and one person not struggling. And instead of asking the person not struggling what they're doing, I say, hey, come over here and struggle with everybody else. She

Sophia 1:15:09
doesn't have enough time to really get a picture of what everybody is doing. I'd say, like our appointments last, like 10 minutes with her. Do you

Scott Benner 1:15:17
think she just thinks you're low carb? So that's why you're there? Or do you think she thinks you're having lows that you're not happy? But she can see that you're not so? Yeah,

Sophia 1:15:26
I she doesn't really look very carefully. I think, anyways,

Scott Benner 1:15:31
just makes big changes to your life. Yep.

Sophia 1:15:35
I don't really listen to the changes, usually. But again, I think I just got roped in. It was also I was not in a very good like, emotional state. When we had that appointment. It was like, a week after I say,

Scott Benner 1:15:49
I'm okay, well, I'll call Scott's back. We're not going to do that. Okay, we're not doing that. Do I have to have you on once a month to make sure things were okay. What are we doing right now? Sophia? What's your level of need for me right now? Yes. Let me know. I'll be here for you. Okay.

Sophia 1:16:04
Thank you. I appreciate it. I think I'm just surprised how much blood sugars really are affected by, like, stress levels. I wish I knew in theory, but it's really, in practice much more intense than I would have assumed.

Scott Benner 1:16:20
Yeah, it's your heart, right? Just like really

Sophia 1:16:23
does. Like I, one day, I spent completely in the three hundreds and it just wouldn't come down.

Scott Benner 1:16:30
I think that's school or something that was going on in your life.

Sophia 1:16:33
I think it was just like the whole the whole package of life at that moment.

Scott Benner 1:16:40
Did you let the algorithm deal with it? Or did you put in extra insulin?

Sophia 1:16:44
No, I did. I had to put in twice my normal daily total amount of insulin, and like the next day was completely fine. And back to my usual self, but that one day just would not react. That's

Scott Benner 1:16:57
crazy. Well, it's not. I mean, I've seen that before. So if you had the knowledge and the confidence to do something about it, or your blood sugar would have been even higher than that. It

Sophia 1:17:07
probably would have because I was doing injecting so much more than I usually would in that case. No,

Scott Benner 1:17:15
well, good for you. It's good to be able to recognize it and do something about it right away. It's something people struggle with sometimes

Sophia 1:17:21
that is 100%. All credit to you. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:17:25
thank you. You didn't have to say that. We already did that earlier. Yeah, I

Sophia 1:17:28
know. I'm being serious.

Scott Benner 1:17:30
I know your thank you. I'm muddying the waters with my own sarcasm, just so everyone's off balance, and nobody knows what's actually happened.

Sophia 1:17:39
particularly enjoy.

Scott Benner 1:17:42
Thank you. I appreciate that. So few people who appreciate my, the way my brain twists up into little like not so

Sophia 1:17:49
people wouldn't be listening if they didn't appreciate it. But what if

Scott Benner 1:17:53
I gave it all to them? I don't think they can handle all of it.

Sophia 1:17:57
You should try for just one episode and like pay attention to what your Facebook group says.

Scott Benner 1:18:01
I mean, I think if I let all of me out in an episode that I wouldn't have done the next day I'd release an episode no one, they'd all be gone. They'd be like, Wait, what did he say? That's not okay.

Sophia 1:18:11
Okay, then release it on April Fool's. Oh, that's

Scott Benner 1:18:15
a good idea. That way I've got cover if I need it. Exactly. Yeah, that wasn't me. I was joking for April Fool's Day.

Speaker 2 1:18:22
What's a really good idea? Yeah, exactly. Write that down.

Scott Benner 1:18:25
I already wrote down. The thing I have to tell you afterwards, though. Yeah,

Sophia 1:18:29
I'm very excited. I think I have an idea of what it is. Should

Scott Benner 1:18:35
I call the episode April Fool's. You could good. I don't know what to call it though. I just heard Arden go down the stairs and like a pair of boots. I'm sure I paid for. They were very heavy. I assume that anything that sounds heavy. I paid for me. Yeah, I Yeah. Heavy to me sounds like expensive.

Sophia 1:18:55
Every time her phone drops? Oh, you're

Scott Benner 1:18:57
like, oh, no, no, I dropped my phone yesterday. And as it was, as it was leaving my hand, I was like, oh, no, no, no. But case, tip. So there's Tim Cook helped me. The case is the case. Save the phone. Nice. Yeah. But he's screwing me otherwise. Also, by the way, just not me. Everybody who has a podcast that has a significant invaluable back catalogue or puts out a lot of information. Because it this is basically this is happening. Because most podcasts put up an episode a week or a month. That's how most of them do it. Right. And what they do is they're when they're trying to get advertising. They put out like, I don't know how to put this exactly. They put out like crappy content like short episodes, to bump up their download numbers. So easiest way to say it is if you had 100 followers and you put up an episode a month, you'd probably get about 100 downloads. But if you put up two episodes a month, you'd get 200 downloads. So what they end up doing as they put up their episode, then they'll do one of those like five minute like, like, hey, don't forget about this thing which you, your, your app automatically downloads they get what the hell is this and you delete it, but they get the they get the number for it like so now they have extra downloads. So the app is now limiting how you see all that content. But for me, I put up five really, like well considered thoughtful episodes a week. And now it's not delivering those episodes to people. And so the simple fix is that as you go into your settings, you go to automatic downloads, you tell it like download all the episodes, everybody who upgraded to iOS 17 their app, eliminated that setting. So even if you were set up to have that happen anyway, now that's not happening. And now you'll just

Sophia 1:20:46
never go for the iOS updates.

Unknown Speaker 1:20:49
Well, it's

Scott Benner 1:20:50
too late now, Sofia, he's, he's come with his sickle and his hammer. And he's, oh, that was not a Russia reference. That was a death reference. He's come from me, he's, he's swiping up my neck right now. Now, you know, I believe that I said, the people are going to still get the interviews, hopefully they'll hear me say this and go back and change their settings at some point. But it's just it literally is, like it might sound like it's about downloads to me. But it's I took a lot of time and care building this thing up. And I was like really starting to get it into people's hands at like mass numbers. And now, this comes along. And what Tim Cook doesn't realize I'm sure it wasn't him, by the way, but is that in this specific space, you have a real opportunity to like change your health. But it's not going to happen in one episode. And so you might need to hear a dozen people's stories. And you might need to be listening for three months before you realize, oh, there's a Pro Tip series. You know, like that kind of stuff. And so you need to you need people to like kind of live in this ecosystem for a while. Until they can get to a point where they can do these things for themselves, make these bigger decisions, go find the information, and then help themselves like after all that happens if you don't want to listen to podcasts anymore, like I understand, like, that's fine with me. But I want to reach people and give them the real opportunity to help themselves. And if they're only going to see every fifth episode of the podcast, that I don't know that that's going to happen. And then that's, that's upsetting

Speaker 2 1:22:21
to me. So, anyway, yeah.

Scott Benner 1:22:25
This is what he's done to me.

Sophia 1:22:28
It's fine. You should write a very strongly worded email.

Scott Benner 1:22:32
What if I wrote all that out on a piece of cardboard just stood in front of the Cupertino? Like, gate? I was just stood out there. I was like you're ruining people's health, because that's in the end, what's gonna happen? Or by the way, if he, the advertisers don't have the foresight to be able to see oh, no, I'm still getting what I need from Scott, then they could leave. And if I don't have advertisers, you wait till you see how quickly Scott becomes the most popular cashier at Walmart and is no longer a podcaster. This all has to kind of work in symbiosis. The business side of it and the helping side of it,

Sophia 1:23:05
of course, and Yeah, that sucks. But I'm sure every single one of your listeners will eventually stumble upon an episode where you tell the issue.

Scott Benner 1:23:16
I hope so. But I don't want to say it too much. It's boring. You know what I mean?

Sophia 1:23:20
We listen to your ad reels. So I

Scott Benner 1:23:22
do appreciate that, by the way. Meanwhile, as I should give the people credit in the pot that are listening to the podcast, because in the Facebook group, I've been kind of making this pitch for about a week. And it's driven the podcast up in charts, like pretty significantly. So you guys are obviously clicking and subscribing and stuff like that, which is great. But you know, kind of needs you to get the episodes as well. So it's not just about subscribing. Like you need to actually get the stuff and listen to it or download it. At the very least,

Sophia 1:23:52
are most people really listening on Apple podcasts? And not like Spotify, overwhelmingly

Scott Benner 1:23:56
more apple podcast listeners. That's interesting. Yeah. Well, I think it's got something to do you want to hear my thought on that? I think I think it has something to do with the thing we talked about earlier. With my son coming home and being able to go to master a master's program, its financial ability and support to actually have the time to think about your health. And I think somehow that correlates to an Apple product in

Unknown Speaker 1:24:23
your home. Does that make

Sophia 1:24:25
sense? I thought you were gonna go in a completely different direction with that. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:24:29
I think I think that the people who listen to this podcast are more passionate. Yes. Yeah. And therefore they are more likely to have an Apple product. And I know that's weird, but I but I know my numbers, and they're incredibly skewed towards Apple devices, which I don't think is the norm for most podcasts.

Sophia 1:24:52
That does make a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah, I think especially with the demographic group in your face. This book. Yeah, you can see that a lot. But most people, I've kind of been a salesman for your podcast on the side here. So I'm kind of also reaching the other part of the population and a lot of Spotify users should have been in should have noticed, like at least three in the last few months. Well,

Scott Benner 1:25:26
there's more than that. But thank you. And I do have a, like, Spotify is my second app, like my second most popular app. It goes, Apple, Spotify, and then some, like third party apps, overcast iHeartRadio. Amazon music, Firefox, cast box Pocket Cast, these are all like, apps that people use to listen. But overwhelmingly, the numbers are with Apple.

Sophia 1:25:55
That doesn't make a lot of sense. I thought you were gonna say just because the it's so much easier. It's already installed on your phone, or? Well, I

Scott Benner 1:26:05
think that's part of it as well, is that people know how they don't have to know that's the other thing is that I bring a lot of people to podcasting, to listening to podcasts that don't listen to podcasts. Yeah. So I bring a lot of new listeners in, and they are going to go with what's in there. What's in their hand when they when they do it. But I'll, I'm looking back at the last week give you a fairly on. Okay, out of the last 1.2 million downloads that the podcast has gotten. A million of them are on an Apple product.

Sophia 1:26:38
Oh my gosh, that's way more than I thought it would be. Yeah, it's

Scott Benner 1:26:42
overwhelming. Like, yeah, of those million 1.2 million 50. Call it 60,000 of those downloads or Spotify.

Speaker 2 1:26:53
That's insane. That difference? That is

Sophia 1:26:57
really huge difference. Yes.

Scott Benner 1:27:00
Yeah. And by the way, there's nothing saying that the person listening on Amazon music or you know, I Heart Radio isn't on an iPhone as well. So it's overwhelmingly app. So Apple is they could make or break me if they wanted to. Do

Sophia 1:27:15
you think it has something to do also with the fact that Dexcom is so much easier to get on an apple?

Scott Benner 1:27:23
I mean, that's that's not unreasonable, either. Or why so many people complain when stuff comes out? And it's not available for iOS? In diabetes?

Sophia 1:27:29
Yeah. Yeah. Because we're used to having the Dexcom app on on iPhone. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:27:37
that's, I mean, Arden. The one thing that Arden didn't like about Omnipod five is that it didn't have an an iPhone app.

Sophia 1:27:46
Yeah. So that's why I prefer the right we'll include To be honest,

Scott Benner 1:27:51
she's using it now. With a dash pod, so you don't even need the link anymore.

Sophia 1:27:56
It's pretty cool. Oh, that's awesome. I might look into that.

Scott Benner 1:28:00
Oh, yeah. Well, because you did looping for a while. Why did you switch? When we

Sophia 1:28:05
moved to the US? The doctor kind of said, This is not FDA approved. And I can't really support this. Unless you switch to another bump. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:28:12
they told us that they couldn't support it either. And I went, Okay, thank you. Yeah.

Sophia 1:28:17
But like we didn't coming to

Scott Benner 1:28:24
that I didn't have that part going for me or that like, oh, look, these people just showed up and look what they're doing that kind of thing.

Unknown Speaker 1:28:29
Yeah.

Sophia 1:28:32
Especially because the doctrine has never seen that before.

Scott Benner 1:28:35
You were the first person to show this. Oh, yeah. Wait, would you come here and move into the woods? Oh,

Sophia 1:28:44
that state was Florida.

Scott Benner 1:28:45
Oh, I don't know what that means. I don't I a lot of people listen to Florida. I love Florida. I'm not saying that.

Sophia 1:28:50
You love Florida. I can't be friends with anyone. You

Unknown Speaker 1:28:55
didn't enjoy Florida. No.

Sophia 1:28:57
There are there are people who enjoy Florida.

Scott Benner 1:29:00
I'm sure there are Floridians that enjoy Florida. It's hot. It's humid. And Florida. Well, yeah, the Florida man thing. I just want to say like for the record, Florida is my third most downloaded state. I love you all in Florida, and I don't Oh, yeah. Yeah. I don't agree with

Sophia 1:29:21
Sofia at all. You're just being politically correct again. Well, that's

Scott Benner 1:29:25
how I gotta roll in this one. I mean, California is the biggest state obviously because it's just so many people on it. But then from there it's Texas. Actually. Florida is for Texas, New York, Florida. Illinois, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan. These are my top like downloads, but allow I haven't done this in a long time. There is no state where somebody doesn't listen to the podcast with some significance. That's pretty cool. Even overseas is going like incredibly well

Sophia 1:29:59
with The podcast. How many listeners do you have in Russia? Well,

Scott Benner 1:30:03
at least one last now. Yeah, yeah, you've ruined it for me.

Unknown Speaker 1:30:07
I did. Retargeting

Scott Benner 1:30:09
very well in Great Britain, Canada, Australia, Germany, South Korea, Sweden, China, Spain, Brazil, Norway, Ireland, Denmark, Japan, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Switzerland, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, India, Belgium, Turkey, Hong Kong, Argentina, Colombia, Israel, Finland, Hungary, United Arab Emirates, Malaysia, Romania, Slovenia, Nigeria, Iceland, Egypt, Lithuania, Zimbabwe is a new one, by the way that just popped up recently. Is that Qatar? Or Qatar?

Unknown Speaker 1:30:39
Out? Have they said? No.

Scott Benner 1:30:41
Okay, there Bahrain, Nepal, nem,

Unknown Speaker 1:30:45
Namibia,

Scott Benner 1:30:46
Botswana Cayman Islands Liberia Russia not on the list right now. I'm not charting in Russia doesn't mean there's no downloads. They're just not charging there at the

Sophia 1:30:55
moment. I was honestly slightly surprised that you were still up for doing the episode.

Scott Benner 1:30:59
When you wanted to come on originally? No right now. Why?

Sophia 1:31:05
Because of like, the whole registration.

Scott Benner 1:31:08
Did you invade the Ukraine? I don't think you did. Right. It wasn't you? Was it? Wait, oh my god, Sofia, wasn't you was it? No comment. Okay. No, I mean, you. You have nothing to do with that would be like not wanting to interview somebody from Canada because something that the Prime Minister did, like, what would that have to do with anything?

Sophia 1:31:29
That's very fair. But see, that's a bit too logical for the general population.

Scott Benner 1:31:34
No, you're just very interesting. I don't care where you're from. That's meaningless to me. Yeah, that doesn't matter to me at all. Yeah, I'm a little light in Russia since you left. Just gonna say I think you killed my downloads there.

Sophia 1:31:45
Man. I should have stayed there just for you. Yeah, you

Scott Benner 1:31:49
definitely should have just stayed just for that. Yeah. We should I think Australia is the biggest non US cut actually, Canada, Canada, Australia. Do a fair amount of downloads.

Sophia 1:32:04
I would imagine. So I would imagine the primarily English speaking countries.

Scott Benner 1:32:09
Yeah, United Kingdom is pretty huge for me to actually United Kingdom often competes and beats Australia for downloads. So we'll see. Anyway, Sofia, what have we not talked about that we should have?

Sophia 1:32:22
I think we've covered pretty much everything's all done.

Scott Benner 1:32:25
Exactly. Alright. You go off into the world and be my Emissary. Okay.

Sophia 1:32:30
I will let you know when it's time for you to show up for the Nobel Peace Prize, which

Scott Benner 1:32:34
we all know happens in Norway. That's right. Not Switzerland. The city. Why is wait. Norway is its own country, right? I don't want to I'm number one. I'm number 51. In Norway right now. I should probably go like I know you guys replaced Don't worry. Don't you get mad at me. I don't need people mad at me. You had like

Sophia 1:32:54
people on the podcast from Norway?

Unknown Speaker 1:32:58
Yeah. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:32:59
don't tell them that. I don't remember. Okay.

Sophia 1:33:01
Okay. I think they will probably hear that for themselves.

Scott Benner 1:33:05
Oh, you're right. Let's stop the recording. And I'll tell you the thing that I was gonna say that I can't say. All right, yes.

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