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Scott Benner 0:00
Hello friends, welcome to episode 1182 of the Juicebox Podcast

I'll be speaking with Amanda today she is the mother of an 11 year old daughter who has type one diabetes and celiac, which she's also colorblind, red and green. Specifically her daughter was conceived from a sperm donor. Oh, look at all the notes here about today's episode. What else do we see here? High School used heroin. Oh my goodness. Are you gonna listen to this? It's gonna be amazing. While the episode is being amazing, please remember that nothing you hear on the Juicebox Podcast should be considered advice, medical or otherwise, always consult a physician before making any changes to your healthcare plan or becoming bold with insulin. You want to help with type one diabetes research. It's simple to do if you're a US resident who has type one diabetes or is the caregiver of someone with type one. All you need to do is go to T one D exchange.org/juicebox. Join the registry. complete the survey. It takes like 10 minutes and you have officially helped with type one diabetes research right there from wherever it is you are T one d exchange.org/juicebox this is your best chance to help research without having to pick your butt up and go somewhere

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Amanda 2:22
Hi, I'm Amanda. I daughter is 11 years old type one diabetes, celiac. Well other things that aren't usually related to this podcast and we're in Southern California.

Scott Benner 2:36
Okay. Type one. Celiac. I said celiac in front of someone the other day. And they go celiac and I was like, am I saying it wrong? I was like Jesus put that on the list. Things I apparently don't pronounce. Oh my god. Right. Okay, so I got to one celiac. Other things that aren't usually talked about here. Do you want to mention them or no? Oh,

Amanda 3:00
well, she's colorblind. Okay, which is very rare for girl. Oh, no

Scott Benner 3:05
kidding. Yeah.

Amanda 3:07
We actually like when I figured it out or started figuring it out. I got I had an HMO. So I'd go to a specific doctor and he was like, she's not colorblind. Girls are not colorblind. She's colorblind. She can't tell the difference between red and green. Nope. Girls aren't colorblind. Okay,

Scott Benner 3:25
they made me come to you. I'm assuming now because you were inexpensive. probably harder to charge and you don't understand what you're doing? Yeah. So that's a, I guess, I don't know. How do you How does that first become, like apparent to you? Well,

Amanda 3:43
hers was she was in the bath around three years old. And you know, like the paint the paint? Yeah. And so she asked Mom, can you and I don't remember anymore. She either said mom can hear me the green one or mom can hear me the red one. And I said, That's not that color. And she switched it. So she either said, can you hear me the green paint? And I said that's not great. And she goes red? Or she said opposite? Can you give me the red paint? I said it's not red. She said green. And I mean, then I was like, there's only one way you mess up red and green.

Scott Benner 4:18
Is that once you can't tell the difference? And, and are there? I mean, how much have you looked into this? Are there other versions of colorblind? Yeah, there is.

Amanda 4:28
There's I mean, and she's like 70%, red, green, Deuteronomy, whatever it's called. There's a whole bunch of different things for it like so for her. She can see colors a little bit. It's not pure like I guess if you're 100% colorblind. It's like everything is gold. Like a yellowish gold. Yeah, but she cuz she's only 70% She can tell the difference between red and green. Apparently reds, darker greens, lighter, basic visions. that things like golden brown. Yeah, I

Scott Benner 5:02
started Googling when you use the name of a, I think a chapter in the Bible instead of whatever you said, I think you said Deuteronomy. And I was like, I'm not very religious, but I feel like that. So I looked here, NIH says there's red green color vision deficiency, they call it blue yellow color vision deficiency has a lot of words and complete color vision deficiency. Yeah, wow. Right about that. And it's looks like it's here we go, dude or anomaly. Thank you is the most Deuteronomy. We didn't name the episode like straight out. I'm actually making a note about that for myself. Definitely call them this Deuteronomy is the most common type of red green color vision deficiency, it makes certain shades of green look more red. This type is mild and doesn't usually get in the way of normal activities. Then there's protein anomaly makes certain shades of red look more green and less bright. This type is mild and usually doesn't get in the way of normal activities. Pro Oberoi pro 10 Neopia and due to rot neuropathy both an hoppy Jesus the Mother of God both makes somewhat unable to tell the difference between bread green, there's also blue yellow, there's two different kinds of blue yellow and then complete like you said, Can't see colors at all. This is also called mono Christmassy or why did Jesus or achromat tapas? Son of a bitch Why do they do this? Why don't they just call it like total or I mean Yeah. Anyway, that all seems horrible. It Do you think? Is she impacted by it? If you take insulin or sulfonylureas you are at risk for your blood sugar going too low. You need a safety net when it matters most. Be ready with G voc hypo pen. My daughter carries G voc hypo pen everywhere she goes because it's a ready to use rescue pen for treating very low blood sugar and people with diabetes ages two and above that I trust. Low blood sugar emergencies can happen unexpectedly and they demand quick action. Luckily Jivaro Capo pen can be administered in two simple steps even by yourself in certain situations. Show those around you where you storage EVO Capo pen and how to use it. They need to know how to use G Bo Capo pen before an emergency situation happens. Learn more about why G vo Capo pen is in Ardens diabetes toolkit at G voc glucagon.com/juicebox. G voc shouldn't be used if you have a tumor in the gland on the top of your kidneys called a pheochromocytoma. Or if you have a tumor in your pancreas called an insulinoma. Visit G voc glucagon.com/risk. For safety information.

Amanda 7:58
She's really not the funniest part is the hardest color for her to see is purple, because she doesn't have the cones for red. Okay, blue and purple are her hardest things, I guess with red and green like they're just a shade off. And she can always tell those apart. But with purple and blue or dark blue, she can't like light purple and blue, dark blue and purple. She can't tell the difference at all.

Scott Benner 8:22
Can you explain the cone thing a little bit. And please use as many Bible references as possible.

Amanda 8:27
I don't understand it completely. But it's the shape of the cones in your eyes that determine what you're capable of being transmitted to your brain and therefore think. And the shape of her red green cones are I don't know if they're flat or what's wrong with them. But I know it's the cones that don't work properly. And so she just does not get that information from her eye to her brain.

Scott Benner 8:57
That's so interesting. Okay, I have a tiny bit of information here that you haven't mentioned yet, but you went to 711 and got some sperm and made her was that right? Yeah. Yeah. So she's from us? Yeah. No, she's from a donor. Yes. Okay. Honest donor. Was that because you paid boys? You had trouble with your spent like like the your mate wasn't able, like what leads to that?

Amanda 9:27
I was with a guy for about 10 years. Like the Melotte. Finally, it was like, Hey, maybe I actually want to have a family and stuff. And then that fell apart. And before that I didn't want to have a family. So it wasn't like a big deal. But then I was like, Hey, I actually want you. Oh, I see then what? And then I don't know if it was my biological clock or whatever. But then I was like, Bob, I want to do it. Now. I don't want to wait another 10 years to find somebody. I may be like enough. I was already 30

Scott Benner 9:57
So took you 10 years to find a person you Like, yeah, oh my gosh, where were you looking?

Amanda 10:04
Punk rock shows probably rock shows.

Scott Benner 10:08
You should call me I might have been able to help. I would have said, Hey, I made it. How about first let's not look for the punk rock shows. Let's see where that gets. I can't meet any good guys in this bar for some reason. No kidding.

Amanda 10:28
That's lovely. No, no. So then I, yeah, yeah. anonymous donor. Had her. Six years later, I got back together with a guy and now we are married and live together. And he's our dad really? Adopted? Yep.

Scott Benner 10:42
How does that feel to him? Well,

Amanda 10:46
I mean, once they met and clicked and fell in love with each other, to them, their father and daughter, no

Scott Benner 10:56
feeling of loss, or mistake that you didn't stay together? I don't really know. And yeah, don't talk too much. You might learn about each other.

Amanda 11:06
I mean, I asked him when we were like really thinking about getting back together and like really doing I was like, I'm not having any more kids. So she's got to be it for you. You're not passing on your DNA, not gonna do it.

Scott Benner 11:18
And do not see me with your seed. Been there done that. That's over now. And

Amanda 11:26
he was fine with it. But I mean, he always jokes. I don't know if he's really joking or not. But he always tells people he was like, No, I've never wanted to change diapers. I swooped in at six years old, taught her how to swim taught her how to ride a bike.

Scott Benner 11:39
I can see I can see people being attracted to

Amanda 11:42
do any of the baby stuff. I came in, right when she turned fun. Right when

Scott Benner 11:46
she turned five. Yeah, that's about right. I asked because, but I guess this is just something private. I shouldn't say on here, but what are we gonna do? You know, my brother was with a girl. They broke up, she married someone had children. And now my brother and her are married. And I always wondered In fairness, I never asked him like, you know, but like, we're also not married. So don't laugh at me, man. Okay, but, but I've never asked my brother like, did you ever feel like oh, geez, what if we would have just, like kept going? You know, like, those would have been my kids maybe? Like, like, naturally, you know, not that I don't think he thinks that. Actually, let me be clear about that. He really loves those kids. So that's that's not the case. All right. I understand. Okay, I'm good. I'm good. Some kid with diabetes needed some money and now your kids diagnosed when did that happen?

Amanda 12:39
That was in July of 2020.

Scott Benner 12:44
Right after she turned eight. Okay. She was eight and 2020 and she was diagnosed is the celiac come first? The type one. The type one. Okay. How does it present?

Amanda 12:53
Well, the obvious normal stuff if she got super skinny, I had to like buy smaller sized bathing suits, which is weird. Yeah. Super drinking water getting all my never wet the bed. She always got up.

Scott Benner 13:07
But it was happening a lot. A lot of urine. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. In

Amanda 13:12
March, actually, I took her to a well visit. And she had lost a pound. And they're like, Oh, she's losing weight. And she's always been in the very low percentile. She's short. I'm short. Like never was like a major concern.

Scott Benner 13:25
Amanda short, how tall are you?

Amanda 13:28
I'm five, two. Okay, good. So they're like, Oh, she lost a pal. And I was like, Yeah, but she's like doing stuff. Now. She's running and she's playing outside and she's riding her bike. I'm okay with losing a pound. And she's getting taller. So it looks like she she's skinnier. And like, she's like, No, I want you to go do bloodwork. And my daughter, parents freaked out. She was just like, No, I don't want to do bloodwork. And I mean, she's my only kid. I didn't do it.

Scott Benner 13:59
By your easy, you don't want to do blood work, it's fine. You're probably just gonna grow up to be a supermodel. That's where this is headed, actually. So it's fine.

Amanda 14:06
I didn't do it. And I was just like, This lady's just a little crazy. I don't know what she's saying. I'm really I was mad afterwards when I was like, you could have done a finger prick in the office, if that's what you thought. Right? Right. You didn't have to send us for major bloodwork. If that's where you were going with this.

Scott Benner 14:22
Do you think that was the doctor's inclination that they were looking for diabetes? That

Amanda 14:26
in celiac, she said, Oh, for the weight loss? Okay. Yeah, but either way. I mean, if you were thinking that don't think I've heard in the office, it would have been Hi then

Scott Benner 14:36
how long between your poor parenting decision and you find out?

Amanda 14:42
March, April, May, June, July, so four months? Oh, you

Scott Benner 14:45
think you would have known four months sooner? Well, yeah,

Amanda 14:49
but also I now that I think about it. She's had like a slow onset. Okay, her whole life. Has she never drink juice? She never ate bread. She knows Ever had candy? Like she'd have IT people like hey, do you want this? She's having a bite. And she'd have a sip of orange juice and say absolutely not. I need a lot of water. She'd have some soda and say no, I need a lot of water. And I just thought she was like, healthy, amazing kid. I mean, this was a two and three years old.

Scott Benner 15:16
Yeah. Like, what does that have to do with the slow onset, though? Tell me. Well,

Amanda 15:20
I mean, if she wouldn't eat things that raised her blood sugar and made her feel weird, she didn't have any words for it. She didn't know how to say what would that was?

Scott Benner 15:28
You think that kid was low carb in her life? Yeah,

Amanda 15:30
because now she loves you. She loves soda. Now that she has insulin to

Scott Benner 15:36
counteract it. That's interesting. So it

Amanda 15:39
wasn't a taste thing to her. It was a body

Scott Benner 15:42
maybe all carbs are red or green. She just didn't see them. It's possible. I mean, I don't know a lot about this

Amanda 15:48
stuff. You love pizza still, but that's slow so she could do that and not hard

Scott Benner 15:53
not to love pizza. Wow. Okay, so she's, she's paying a lot. You go to the doctor, you don't do the bloodwork four months later. What happens that makes you go oh, okay,

Amanda 16:03
we finally do the bloodwork. Oh,

Scott Benner 16:05
I was gonna say and she's a rockstar bloodwork. Now, I imagine years later. Oh,

Amanda 16:09
no, no, no, still no. Still still really hard thing. Tell me

Scott Benner 16:13
about that. Because I don't talk about it very often. But Arden's like a cat in a in a carwash sometimes.

Amanda 16:24
Yeah, no, I don't get it either. I'm like, you know, get shots. I mean, when she doesn't anymore. She's on the pump. And yeah, but it was like you getting shots, six or more a day for a very long time. But it's still I mean, it's a bigger needle. It's scary. She is always bribing me. Can we put it off? Can we do it this day, like always last minute, we're just barely gets to the doctor and time.

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Amanda 19:21
Well, she just she just makes me feel bad. And so I have this plan a day where I go do something and then her dad has to take her. Oh,

Scott Benner 19:27
I see. So yeah, well now he's there. Back then. Was he there? In 2020? Yeah, he was living without he was okay. Yeah. All right. Because he was probably like, look, I got out of this a couple times. I could probably keep pushing this lady off if I tried hard enough. She's pretty smart about that. Yeah, give her over to him. And he's like, we're going to get bloodwork Shut up. Yes. So I should be I should be clear as an adult, and in her late teens to say she's fine getting her blood drawn. That would be a lie. I have to remember to ask her about it when she's on next time but she She sits there and watches the needle go into her arm. She can't look away from it cannot look away, she does not like it. It's upsetting to her. There have been times where she's given like had blood draws, you know, every couple of months trying to figure out like levels for like thyroid stuff and things like that. Every time it does not get better, but when she, when she was young, it was fine. And there I don't know when it happened to her. But there was this one day in the endos office, where the lady who had drawn her blood, you know, like, I gotta say, at least once a year for forever. She came in and art and just pulled her feet up on the table and started pushing backwards. And before you knew it, she was in the corner of the room and I thought she's gonna go up the wall like spider man in a second. The porn nurses like art and what's going on? We've been doing this for years partners like no more. I had to take her into the bathroom and like we had to sit and talk quietly in the bathroom was by the way so that she felt protected like it did take her into a room close the door and lock the door. So I'm like, Alright, no one's coming in. We got to figure this out. Yeah, being a parent has been a lot of fun. So far. Super exciting. Yeah, the fury of sex for a little while and then just arguing with kids about stuff. And for you, not even you do it yourself or you go to a place you can't do it yourself again. You

Amanda 21:20
know, my OBGYN was already like a fertility doctor too. So he had all the connections.

Scott Benner 21:26
What do you think would happen if I typed DIY artificial? Am I about to see something horrible?

Amanda 21:36
I think those are like the stupid rom com movies where they just use a guy for a night DIY

Scott Benner 21:40
artificial insemination kit. Oh, make fun of me. Well, yeah, you can buy him at CVS. Oh, I thought I was making something stupid up and I was definitely gonna get sent to a porn site. But that is not what happened. Freda for Tality for tat fatality fertility. Unbelievable. At home insemination set. Four and a half stars. It says just add sperm. Now it doesn't say that. It's a real thing. It doesn't say just that sperm. Although it should, right. It really marketing like technique that would be yeah, there's a number of different add home insemination kits from a number of different companies. How much did you pay? You could have done this for $129.

Amanda 22:28
Well, that's just a kid. You'd still need the sperm pump punk rock show.

Scott Benner 22:33
How hard would it have been there? I'm gonna say not difficult. My

Amanda 22:36
kid probably would have been healthier.

Scott Benner 22:40
You know, let's get past this. It's my fault. I didn't record yesterday. I have a lot of silliness pent up inside me. I need to let it out every day or this is what happens. Okay, so diagnosed type one. Finally with bloodwork. Does she have to go to the hospital or

Amanda 22:57
Yeah. So like on a Monday, she went got her bloodwork done on Wednesday, the doctor called and said we got her bloodwork back. Her blood sugar's 480. And I said, Okay, what is that bad? I had no idea. Yeah, right. I had no idea. So I was like, Alright, cool. She has to go to the emergency room right now. I was like she's out riding her bike.

Scott Benner 23:21
Yeah. And that feeling of she's fine, right? Yeah,

Amanda 23:24
she's all right. She's not dying. They're like, are you going to take her like, I guess they thought I really wasn't. I was like, I actually have a work meeting, but I'll take her in an hour. And they're like, You need to take her right now. I mean, she's not gonna die, right? Right here. I put this off for months. What is an hour?

Scott Benner 23:42
Lady I've been doing this wrong for like a half a year. So I'm gonna finish up the work meeting and then we'll be over. I'm not a high stress. You're not a high stress person. Hi, Amanda.

Amanda 23:53
You know what I usually am I just I didn't like high stress stuff was always meant with work and not at home. Oh,

Scott Benner 24:01
I mean, it's super interesting, because I thought you're going to tell me that you're laid back and micro dosing mushrooms or something like that. But it's, you're from California. That could be happening right.

Amanda 24:09
Now, I wish not in a long time. Okay. That's

Scott Benner 24:13
the punk rock show. Wait a minute. Can we name this punk rock Deuteronomy? Maybe? Absolutely. Damn. Oh, hold on a second. I'm gonna write that down. I'll forget. Do you know that if I didn't write that down? Then an hour from now when we were done talking? I wouldn't remember.

Amanda 24:31
I probably wouldn't either. fascinate.

Scott Benner 24:35
I worry about myself in those situations? I'd remember

Amanda 24:37
that there would be something but I wouldn't remember what it was like I know there was something cool. What was it? I have to

Scott Benner 24:42
start leaving in the notes that I make for myself after the recording and so the recording ends. I take a second I get a drink. I bring the microphone back to my voice and I go today we talked to Amanda. Her daughter was you know, this this old 2020 when she was diagnosed type one On she had celiac later, she has red green colorblindness, and then I start going, we should call this episode I'll go Oh, sometime about, like, it's like an hour later. It's like an hour later. I don't know. Actually, I have an editor now. And it's been terrific, like 99.9% Terrific, though part that's not great is that the show gets recorded, it goes out and it's edited. It comes back to me and I have to lay in bumpers and ads and stuff like that, right? So I have to sit back down with the track and be like, Hello, friends this episode. Like I have to do all that. And then there's 30 seconds in the beginning where I like to give a little overview of what the the episodes about, and they would come back to me from the editor and I was like, I have no idea what this is about. Like I recorded this like, months ago. I have no idea. So I had to say to him while you're listening can you take notes about the episode?

Amanda 25:58
Yeah, cuz I mean while you were at any you were hearing it again. Yeah,

Scott Benner 26:00
it but I but I don't listen back through like once the edits done, I just I cut it off by laying the the elements where they go, but I don't listen to it again. And so there's like a little scratch pad in the in the thing and he's really his name's Rob. I mean, wrong way recording. If you're looking for him. I think it's wrong way. recording.com. And his notes are fantastic. Like sometimes I look at them. I'm like, I'm going to start stealing these and using it on the website. They're so like, thorough. He's like really sitting there listening. Yeah. So. Okay, kid. Well, Hi, Rob. Yeah. Hey, Rob. What's up, man do a good job on this one. Because, you know, I mean, his dogs barking in the background so you can get rid of that. That'd be terrific. As I try to make you feel that, Oh, okay. So work meeting ends, we go to the hospital.

Amanda 26:45
Yeah, go home. Go to the hospital. Still. COVID. So, okay, my husband just dropped us off. Her blood sugar was 560. Then they mentioned how clear her pee was because you know, she didn't drink a lot of water. She told us to go to a doctor. That's 15 minutes away. If we got another 15 minutes, we could have just gone straight to chalk. I don't know why she didn't just tell us that. So then we're waiting at the closer hospital for three hours for them send an ambulance takes chalk.

Scott Benner 27:14
So you drove 15 minutes to wait for an ambulance. But you could have 30 minutes to where you're going? Yeah.

Amanda 27:20
She's like, go to Mission Hospital right there. Do that go there? Okay, I'll do it. She's like, are you going? I'm going, lady. I'm going. I'm really um,

Scott Benner 27:29
how long did you wait for the ambulance? It was it was about three or four hours. Fantastic. That's absolutely fantastic. I don't understand half the time what happens but okay, so I

Amanda 27:41
remember sitting in there and we're in there and there's telling us, you know, she's got type one diabetes. I'm like, okay, I'd like the only thing I know about this is I read the baby sitters club, and one of them had

Scott Benner 27:54
ever heard about, do you think it comes? So is there any autoimmune on your side of the family?

Amanda 27:58
I have an aunt that has rheumatoid arthritis. Okay. All right. counts. For sure. Yeah. But that's like it. I mean, I'm sure some people are a little bit crazy and have some bipolar. None of them would. would admit it. Jesus

Scott Benner 28:13
already. You're like, I'm just gonna tell you right now. I'm related to a number of people who have bipolar disorder. They don't say it out loud. But I'm 100%. Sure. Is that what you're saying? Yes, yes. Do you want to name them? No. Both and oh.

Amanda 28:28
The other female of the family, aka my mom.

Scott Benner 28:32
I was just kidding. But okay. Jesus. Do you talk to your mom? Yes. Yeah. Okay. All right. Gotcha. Everybody's nice. They just think they might literally like you think they have? No, seriously she they really do. Okay. Is your mom taking medication? She's

Amanda 28:50
been on some stuff, the last few months and she's been a lot calmer and less. Just crazy. Emotional boy thinks she's like, Oh my God, you stop sharing your location with me. I'm like, I didn't mean to sorry. And I'm 43 years old.

Scott Benner 29:02
So okay, if your location stops being shared through your phone, your mom has a freakout.

Amanda 29:08
Yeah, like I'm your mom. I'm not stalking you. It's fine. But okay. I didn't mean to. I really don't care if you see that I'm at home. Yeah.

Scott Benner 29:16
Well, you're just, I mean, what are you doing? Right? Yeah, you're old now. Yeah, that punk rock show or anything like that. You and Sid Vicious are watching the prices, right?

Amanda 29:24
I don't even listen to music anymore. My husband still he's a drummer. So he still listens and plays it all the time. How old are you? I'm 43.

Scott Benner 29:35
I have to tell you. I don't know that I don't listen to music anymore. I try very hard to but it's it's a it feels like a job to remember to listen to music sometimes. Yeah. It's upsetting to me. Honestly,

Amanda 29:50
I mean, I agree. I music was everything for a long time for me. So it's weird. Is

Scott Benner 29:55
it time you don't have time? Can I just

Amanda 29:58
just don't like the sound anymore. And

Scott Benner 30:02
when you go back to old music that you did love, do you find that it starts to feel dated? Yeah, yeah. happens to me too. Okay. All right. Well, that must be a thing that happens to people,

Amanda 30:12
I noticed that I have a hard time paying attention out to more than, like my mind and pay attention to more than one thing that my ears can.

Scott Benner 30:20
So if you put music on in the background, you might as well not have it on. Right

Amanda 30:26
or I can't hear people over it. I just like somebody's talking me, I'd have to stop the music.

Scott Benner 30:30
Are you losing your hearing? Do you think?

Amanda 30:32
Maybe I don't really think so. I can hear stuff. I just, I just only can only pay attention to one sound at a time. You

Scott Benner 30:39
don't say what a lot of people talk. But that's

Amanda 30:43
to my husband, because he starts talking and he usually talks to himself. So it's like after I'm like, Oh, you're talking sorry.

Scott Benner 30:51
Do you know people who start their thoughts, like five or six words into them out loud? Like the first five or six words are in their head and then they start talking out loud? Yeah, that's my husband. Oh, he does that. Okay. And then you're like, I don't know what you're saying. But they think you do. Yeah. It's interesting. My mom did that.

Amanda 31:08
Yeah, he definitely does say, like, Yeah,

Scott Benner 31:11
I'm like, I'm gonna need I'm gonna need all the work. If

Amanda 31:14
you want me I don't know. What about what?

Scott Benner 31:17
You gotta say it all out loud. That's funny. Okay, so Okay, get to the hospital. Finally, kids got diabetes. Now I'm dying to know how you handle it. Because so far, you've handled the entire thing. Like, just very quickly, when I was gonna say whimsically. You're just like, it'll be fine. But when they start telling you what's going on, and you start getting a grasp of it, does that shift your attention?

Amanda 31:40
I don't know. They must have I remember them. They must have thought that I was just still so nonchalant about it. Because I'm asking the doctor. I was like, Okay, how concerned are we about her right now? And he understood what I meant. And he's like, she's fine. She's gonna live. We just have to do stuff. But the nurse that was in there was like, you can't take her you have to stay here. I was like, I wasn't gonna go anywhere. I was just asking like,

Scott Benner 32:05
hey, the kids not gonna die. Right? That's what you're right. Yeah. How

Amanda 32:08
concerned? Am I right now about her health? Yes, she's about to die. Do I need to call everybody and get them here? Or is she gonna be okay? Because

Scott Benner 32:16
it took a lot to make this one. And I've already decided I don't want to do it again. And I like, I like her and everything. So it can we kind of keep her here. Is there a way to do that? Oh, and the one nurse thought the one nurse thought you were being nonchalant. Like you were just gonna blow out didn't? Yeah,

Amanda 32:30
like if I was like, oh, it's not a big deal. She's like, you can't leave here. Leaving? No, that's not at all what I meant. didn't

Scott Benner 32:35
say that. Doctor got what you were saying. And then how long was she in the hospital for?

Amanda 32:40
That was Wednesday. We came home Friday afternoon. That's pretty quick. She wasn't really in DKA. She was only on IVs for about six hours. Maybe?

Scott Benner 32:49
Okay. Yeah, that's, that's great.

Amanda 32:52
I wouldn't see was 12.1 Which seems high. But I don't I mean, maybe she just drink so much of the water, the acidic or whatever, Amanda,

Scott Benner 33:03
if that was true, then everybody listening would just drink water instead of using insulin. For six, six hours, you've made a couple of leaps in your in your, in your thought you were like, she probably just ate low carb or whole life but had diabetes the whole time. I'm going to tell you between you and I, I don't think that's right. So but but you're telling your story. So I'm happy to listen. But yeah, I mean, it's I mean, it's well, day one see would indicate that her blood sugar had been elevated for a while, but not to the point where I mean, she's still making some insulin. Obviously. You don't think she's how long she three years later? Does she have

Amanda 33:40
any? I don't think she ever had a honeymoon. But no, I don't think so.

Scott Benner 33:44
It was kind of gone before you figured out that there was diabetes is there? Yeah. Okay. I took care of that. Not doing anything with your work meeting and other such things. Do you ever look back and think oh my god, if it would have onset quicker like she would have really been in trouble. Yeah, of course. Does it make you feel a certain way?

Amanda 34:01
Well, yeah, how? pretty shitty. I mean, I feel pretty bad about it. I'm still mad that the doctor didn't just give her a finger prick, right? They're just like, if he would have just said what you thought it was and done. And I mean, she probably would have been at maybe 200. Then maybe, and then I would have found out about it and I wouldn't have had to rebuy brand new bathing suits. Six instead of eight.

Scott Benner 34:29
I like how, at the same time, like thoughtful you are about this and flippin at the same time. It's very it's very much fun to listen to. You're like, you know what, I feel bad because I didn't see it sooner and something could have happened and that's very upsetting. And plus, a lot of money in bathing suits went out the window. I can't tell if you're hilarious, or literally not paying attention anything.

Amanda 34:57
I'm pretty funny. Okay.

Scott Benner 34:59
That's what I was wondering. I mean, listen, you've got to have a good sense of humor if you get sperm at a 711. So you get a Slurpee while you're there, too. I wouldn't.

Amanda 35:12
I did drink a lot of Slurpees when I was pregnant. I wonder if that gave her diabetes.

Scott Benner 35:17
I don't think that works that way. But I know you drink a lot of Wait a minute. You drank a lot of Slurpees while you were pregnant. I did. So I randomly said 711 But you're a 711. Girl. You know, I got them at Target. Oh, look at you fancy. Yeah, yeah. You don't get a 711 Are there even seven? elevens in California?

Amanda 35:38
Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. There's a lot of them there. None of them are gas stations, though. They're always just like corner stores.

Scott Benner 35:44
Fair enough. My 711 Growing up was a corner store. Did you guys get Wawa? Did they make it to the West Coast? No,

Amanda 35:51
I've never heard of them. Okay. Not in the south either. Because I grew up in Georgia. Yeah,

Scott Benner 35:56
you had the buches are down there. Now. You grew up in Georgia. Where in Georgia grew up.

Amanda 36:00
Woodstock. So that's, like

Scott Benner 36:05
inland Right? Like, more? Like

Amanda 36:08
45 minutes north of Atlanta. Yeah.

Scott Benner 36:11
Okay. Well, how'd you get to California?

Amanda 36:13
I was born in California. We moved to Georgia when I was 10. My dad worked for Coca Cola out here. And so got transferred to Coca Cola capital.

Scott Benner 36:23
Which is in Cal. Oh, is it Atlanta, which is in Atlanta. Right. There's that big bike? Somehow there's, if you've never heard of coke, if you've ever been there, there's like a Coca Cola Museum and almost feels like it's like,

Amanda 36:36
it's really cool, actually. Yeah, I

Scott Benner 36:39
mean, you know, soda wasn't bad for you. It'd be amazing. Sure. It's yeah,

Amanda 36:43
they have like little things with soda like sports across the sky until cup four. Yeah,

Scott Benner 36:48
yeah. No, but like, if it was a heroin Museum, you'd be put off by it.

Amanda 36:54
Well, not me but that's the other reason I went to Atlanta.

Scott Benner 37:01
Amanda when that drummer and you break up, call me out have fun.

Amanda 37:11
That's a weird thing. I don't know if I want to I don't know if I don't want this to be an after dark. I won't say but.

Scott Benner 37:15
Wait, you were gonna say something that if you said it, it would be an after dark? Probably. Is it about him? No. Oh, about the other thing about the heroin? Yeah. Oh, I see. Damn. All right, then. It's fine. You don't have to share more than you want to. Just tell me did you snorted or injected? Bow. Oh, there you go. Well, now it's an after dark. Congratulations. You said punk rock. You married a drummer. I assumed there was drug use somewhere. And he's never done it. It's not him. Well, he doesn't need to your eyes. Okay. He's fine. Any man? One of us is gonna be paying attention.

Amanda 37:52
No, I never did it out here in California. I met him out here. Yeah, I only lived in Georgia for 11 years. Middle School in high school. Little bit of college. And then I came back out

Scott Benner 38:00
here. The drugs were in California. Not in Georgia. No drugs. Were in Georgia. Not in California. A weird place sometimes.

Amanda 38:07
Yeah. I mean, I guess it's like it was a small city and there was nothing to do. So yeah, it was just one of those things. When I came out here. Like, I didn't really look for it. But I mean, I guess even if I did, I don't think it would have been easy to find me. Maybe none of the people I met around

Scott Benner 38:23
here. Are you saying you think it was boredom? Oh, totally. When you were younger, and all that fat, Coca Cola money just sitting around it do something? Oh, my God, I don't know if anyone else is impressed that I haven't made a beat on the skins reference because your guy's a drummer. And like, I've kept it completely clean this entire time. So I mean, I don't need like congratulations or anything like that. But somebody you know, to be impressed. So I just completely let it go. You know, so many different versions of inappropriate and they're not me, I held it together. And we went right to drugs instead. Okay, so let's be clear for the people. You don't do that anymore. Is that correct? Correct. hadn't done that while you're a parent?

Amanda 39:05
No, okay. No, not at all. Let me but it's weird. Like I remember. And this was about the only thing I actually didn't know about type one diabetics is that I guess anyone know is type one, but just like sometimes people would go and try and get syringes. So they'd have to go to the pharmacy and be like, say you're a diabetic and see if you can get some syringes used to

Scott Benner 39:23
be able to know, I have that backwards that know the insulin used to use to be able to get insulin, actually, someone told me recently I have no idea if this is true, you still don't need a prescription for like regular. I don't know if that's true or not. But when my buddy was young, he was on like regular mph. He did not need a script for his insulin. He did a script for his needles. But you're saying you could go in and say I have diabetes give me needles and they give them to some

Amanda 39:50
places would but they'd have to have. I mean, I guess maybe they didn't need a prescription, but some places would still do it. Otherwise I don't really know the whole rules because some people could go get him and they maybe they just knew somebody. How

Scott Benner 40:05
long were you involved in that lifestyle?

Amanda 40:08
Two years,

Scott Benner 40:09
you have any trouble stopping?

Amanda 40:10
It wasn't fun. But no, I mean, it really wasn't. I've never like went through crazy withdrawals or anything like that.

Scott Benner 40:18
What makes you stop? I didn't?

Amanda 40:20
Well, I had told myself that I would never use a needle. So I once I actually did that I did it about two more times. And then I was like, No, I'm not going down this route.

Scott Benner 40:32
You crossed your own line, and then decided it was going to keep happening. Yeah,

Amanda 40:36
gotcha. Let's I didn't really like the boy who was dating anymore. That helps.

Scott Benner 40:41
And he was involved with us. Yeah, I see. I'm following. Don't worry. I got this whole thing straightened out in my head.

Amanda 40:49
I mean, I liked the heroin. I just didn't like him. You

Scott Benner 40:53
trying to rename the episode again?

Amanda 40:57
I like I mean, there's a reason people do it. It feels great. It's wonderful. But it's, I don't know, I guess I just grew up. I didn't want to grow up every other night or whatever.

Scott Benner 41:10
So the downside of heroin to you was finish that sentence for

Amanda 41:14
me. nominee.

Scott Benner 41:17
None of the other stuff. Like the vomiting is the thing that turned you off about it. Yeah, interesting.

Amanda 41:23
Yeah, I didn't. I didn't. Yeah. I mean, it felt great to be on it. But I would always throw up always

Scott Benner 41:31
being a person who used heroin. That was not part of what threw you off about it. Not

Amanda 41:35
really. But I mean, I was No, I still worked. I still did stuff. Like the hardest part about it was my boyfriend was kind of a dumbass and a junkie and I'd have to go down to Atlanta and like, saved him a lot. But I didn't get into it so bad that I wasn't still a productive member of society.

Scott Benner 41:55
Okay. Okay. So you're using it? What you would call like, recreationally? Yeah, gotcha. I mean, it's funny. I know what you look like, switch is an unfair advantage. But if you and I met in person for the first time, and you just walked up to me and said, Hey, I used heroin. When I was a child, I'd look at you and I go, No, you didn't stop it.

Amanda 42:17
You can't see my tattoos on me. Yeah,

Scott Benner 42:19
no, but like, you just, you just look like someone's mom. Now. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Everyone has to wonder when they hear this, oh, my God, did my mom do heroin?

Amanda 42:32
You know, I don't so much anymore. But at first when they started just giving us prescriptions of needles. I was like, well, if, for some reason anybody needs a needle, at least I can give him a clean needle instead of going somewhere and getting gross one.

Scott Benner 42:45
Do you still know people who use? No, not at all? No. Okay. Interesting. Wow. I'm fascinated by this. I'm having such a nice time. I don't, I don't know what's wrong with me. But I actually I just met somebody the other day, who said to me, it's a person I knew, but I had never met in person. And we had time to be together for a while. And they said, You're so direct. And I thought, No, I'm not. Am I I'm a I'm direct. And then I started really thinking about it. I was like, oh my god, I guess a lot of people wouldn't say the things I say, I never really It never occurred to me before. Like being completely serious. Like when she called me direct, it threw me a little bit.

Amanda 43:30
That's what I've always liked about listening to you is you are open and honest. You have your opinions, but they're never judgey I think that's what I like, like, whatever it is, you're just like, alright, you only know about it. But you're never like, your person. Yeah,

Scott Benner 43:46
no, if you want to say no, if you want me to judge, you just have to come here in person. And I'd be happy to. But it's not. It's not I'm not a saint. You don't I mean, are there dude, are there saints in Deuteronomy? That'd be amazing. But I don't either, honestly, well, I don't feel judgmental towards people. Like, I mean, I could be if you want me to say, this is what I think and I see this and, you know, I could come down on the side of it, I could, but for the purposes of this podcast, and for life in general, I don't see the value in doing that. You know, like, I mean, sitting around the house and talking about like a mole on somebody's face is judgment is judgy. But it's, you know, it's between three people and nobody can hear and the lady with the mole doesn't know so you know, anybody but yeah, for my actual life and for this podcast, I see no value in doing anything but listening to people's stories, trying to understand them. And that's it. Really I don't I don't see a reason to do anything else about it. But anyway, yeah, I was really thrown off like she's like, you're very direct. I was like, I am not. That's where I started. Then I was like, Oh, I am. But I but I don't take that back. Yeah, I very directly told her she was wrong. No, no, I just I am And I was like, really? Because yeah, it's incredibly so I was like off putting and she goes, No. And I was like, Okay. She's just like you say things I would never say out loud. And I'm like, huh, I don't know that about myself. That interesting. So it's very interesting. I bought an eraser the other day, in the shape of an ear. I don't mean, I don't need it, but it's called an eraser. And they put a picture of Van Gogh next to the box.

Amanda 45:30
I was gonna say, is it Van Gogh's?

Scott Benner 45:32
It's not apparently the Van Gogh. People don't sell erasers. Although I say money left on the table. The picture of Van Gogh next to it cracked me up so much. I was like, I'm buying an eraser. And Kelly goes, do you even write in pencil? And I was like, listen, that's not important. I mean, I have an eraser on my desk from now on. So I'm looking at it and bringing that up, because this episode seems like it's all over the place. Who cares? Talk a little more about why I'm terrific.

Amanda 46:00
Oh, well, you're delightful. And, yeah, I mean, you're pretty funny. I like you.

Scott Benner 46:06
I appreciate this. What you found the podcast for diabetes purposes, I imagine.

Amanda 46:10
Correct. Okay. And that was like, I wasn't right away on there. I mean, she was diagnosed in like August. I think the first episode I listened to was around one of Thanksgivings, of just like, how to get through Thanksgiving.

Scott Benner 46:24
Oh, the talk turkey, the short episode where I just like I stream of consciousness talk about how to manage Thanksgiving Day. Right? Yeah, that's a good one. Actually. It was pretty good. I mean, you said pretty good, which hurt my feelings a lot. But

Amanda 46:39
well, after that it was the Dexcom one with this somebody from Dexcom. And I was like, Well, this is kind of boring.

Scott Benner 46:44
Yeah, that stuff is pretty topical. Like, in the moment when everyone's like, what's happening with Dexcom? Like, what's coming out? Like, then people are like, Oh, my God, it's amazing. It's hard to go back and listen to them afterwards. Because you're like, yeah, that happened already. So yeah, yeah. It's not quite as exciting. But okay, so you found the podcast, listen to it. Do you? For example, like Have you listened to the Pro Tip series?

Amanda 47:05
I did. I didn't, I haven't listened to the remastered ones. But I listened to them. Help. I kind of went back and found very much. Okay, good, good, good, very much. That was like I started coming home and like, we've got to get the pump. We've got to get the Dexcom. At first it was the ducks home. And my husband and daughter. Were just like, No, no, we're doing fine. Let's not change anything. We're doing. Okay. It's like, No, I want to get it.

Scott Benner 47:31
Did you feel like you weren't doing okay. Or do you just feel like there was better to be had?

Amanda 47:35
Yeah, there's this better? I will. Yeah, I just I wanted it. I just knew that. I wanted to know exactly how she was responding to it.

Scott Benner 47:44
Mandy sound like your mom with the Find My iPhone thing? I'm just teasing you. I think what you did is completely reasonable. I just saw a great opportunity. I

Amanda 47:53
mean, I used to be like, What do you work for? Dexcom. Now you're gonna be one of their salespeople. They need it. This is the drummer. Yes. But then once we got it, once I pushed for it and said, We're just doing it, you screw you. I'm the one who works. It's my insurance. We're doing it.

Scott Benner 48:09
Yeah. What about your daughter what you have to do to talk your daughter and awareness? Well,

Amanda 48:13
I told her that she'll be able to choose the pump. That will be her choice, but I'm forcing this on on you. I'm sorry. I know I shouldn't. But I'm doing it till you're 18 you're wearing a Dexcom since you've resisted. She had a first but I mean, once she got it. She was like once she stopped doing sanparks 10 times a day.

Scott Benner 48:36
Then she's like, Alright, I'm in on this. Yeah,

Amanda 48:38
she's like, Yeah, okay, this, she hated the change, like changing and all that she's fine with it now. She just started doing it on her own actually good for her. That's really cool. She likes to watch YouTube videos of people doing it. Like, I want to draw my stomach. Now I want to turn my legs. I don't want to do

Scott Benner 48:53
this. Oh, nice. Oh, that's excellent. That's actually really exciting. I listen, I've said it before. I'll say it again. I don't understand letting children make medical decisions. So it's weird to me. Right. You know, I mean, if you were at the hospital, and the doctor was like, you know, I think she'd be healthier if she wore this heart monitor because of her. I don't know, whatever. And she goes, I don't want to wear a heart monitor. You wouldn't go okay. Or the human.

Amanda 49:14
I also didn't take her for bloodwork for four months. Yes. I'm

Scott Benner 49:17
saying maybe you would, but most people.

Amanda 49:21
But no, yeah, that one. I was like, I'll I'll let you choose the pump. And then she still didn't want the pump a year later. And I was like, You know what? We're doing the pump. Sorry.

Scott Benner 49:31
So you just shows the bump?

Amanda 49:33
Yes, like we're doing it. We're definitely you mean the pump. I'm sick of doing shots. You,

Scott Benner 49:38
you parent, like somebody who grew up in the 70s is done heroin. That's fantastic.

Amanda 49:46
And then we got the pump and then then we're like, oh, wow, this is better and easier. Wow. Imagine that. Oh, so

Scott Benner 49:51
she came along on that too? Yeah, yeah, it's hard. Listen, it's a difficult thing.

Amanda 49:57
You know, the weird thing is like it's so much cheaper. Insurance wise to have a pump like pens. What do I mean? Um, maybe I had crappy insurance, but pens were like 4050 bucks a month where insulin is three or $10.

Scott Benner 50:11
Right? And then the pumps are costing you what? Oh, the pump was covered. Okay? So there's just you're out of pocket the beginning of the year, and then you're done after that, right? But you were paying you were paying for the pens, so

Amanda 50:25
I was paying for the pens like our copay was about 45 bucks. And our copay for pen needles was about 45 bucks. I

Scott Benner 50:32
didn't know that. Let me just slip this in here real quick. Amanda omnipod.com forward slash juice box. There you go. I'm using case people right now are like, wait a minute, a pump could be cheaper than my pens. I mean, you know, no reason we shouldn't support the podcast while it's happening. Oh, wow. So you switch to a it's interesting. So you said look, we're gonna get a pump now got a POM she got used to it eventually. She doesn't resent it. You don't hear feel any pushback now or measure any resentment from her.

Amanda 50:59
Now, once we got it, there was a couple times where I wasn't sure if the site was working or whatever. So I was like, let's just do a shot. Before we change it goes to see which one it is. And she flat out refused. Then she was like, Absolutely not. She'd run screaming and crying. Oh, what did the shots just change the site? So she went from only wanting shots to never ever long shots again. Yeah,

Scott Benner 51:24
yeah, I still haven't gotten art. I tell that story. Actually, those are the two stories. When I say earlier, I needed to have art and talked about on her Oh, her getting blood draws, I'm actually going to write this down. blood draws I gotta get her to talk about and giving herself an injection, which she has done. How many times in her life, you go ahead and guess she used needles for two years old, three years old. Some of four years old. My best math told me she got like 10,000 like shots and no fingerprints combined. How many injections do you think she's ever given herself?

Amanda 51:58
I'm gonna say less than five. Yeah, one.

Scott Benner 52:02
One, and it was like a year and a half ago. And it took her about 45 minutes to get the nerve to do it. Maybe longer. She disappeared into a bathroom for an incredibly long amount of time, and then came out and was like, I did it or like, okay, great. She's like, 18 She's like, I don't I don't want to do that again. I was like, Okay. Like, you might have to at some point, you know, and she's like, I know, that's why I did it once. But let's make sure that that doesn't have to happen. And I was like, I will we'll do our best. But yeah, we were just like wanting to check if a pump site was bad. And so I say hey, we just inject real quick, we'll know if it's the site or if you've got something else going on. And she's like, Yeah, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. Oh, my God, I swear to God is our more. I'm gonna get her to tell that story. So she didn't really talk about it. Like I'd like I really would like to hear her perspective on on those two things. So anyway, yeah.

Amanda 52:53
I don't know. I don't know why, like, my daughter was just always for a long time. I was the only one allowed to give her a shot. She wouldn't even let her dad do it. And

Scott Benner 53:01
me, it makes sense to me probably felt safe to her.

Amanda 53:05
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, she, she'd sit on his lap. At first, she'd sit on his lap and like bite his finger as I was doing it. But that started in hospital when they're like, Okay, you can have something to hold and do something. She started biting swinger.

Scott Benner 53:20
Interesting. You both have that in common. You got six shots and stop doing them. I appreciate you coming on the show. And being so honest, by the way, it's very nice of you. Really to appreciate it. Is there a reason you wanted to come on the podcast? I usually feel like I should ask that question at least 45 minutes into the conversation.

Amanda 53:40
Oh, well, I mean, I was just listening all the time. And I was going to work as listen on the way up, listen, during lunch, listen on the way home. And it was just fun to hear. And I did get a lot of like, good little bits of information. Just from the conversation once Yeah. Like, oh, I didn't think about that. That's not in the pro tips or even Jenny talking or whatever. Yeah,

Scott Benner 54:03
I appreciate that very much. Actually. It's it's super interesting. Because as super interesting to me, because I make the podcast but you know, the rest of you might be like, I don't find it that interesting, Scott, but I do. I think it's an insight. The people who really love management, like specific episodes, they love it, like voraciously, but where most of the podcasts popularity is actually in the conversations. Like there are plenty of people who love the conversations who don't listen to the management. And, but the people who are very, like voracious about the management, sometimes they'll be like, Yeah, I don't want to hear people's stories. Kind of incredible. And the management people are highly focused inside of the private Facebook group two. Yeah. Because because the private Facebook group is huge. Right, like, okay, yeah, it's fantastic. It's huge. But if you try to start a conversation there about like, hey, Amanda was on today. And did you get As here, they don't get a lot of like, play one on the conversationally on the on the page. That was the one thing that surprised me. I thought people were going to be like every day, they'd be like, Oh my God, did you hear the story? Those people don't seem to be Facebook people. So yeah, I

Amanda 55:15
don't think so. Yeah. It's interesting to me, I really don't go on it so much anymore. I, I kind of skim through it, or something easy. I can help answer. I answer real quick. Well, that's

Scott Benner 55:25
very nice. I appreciate that. But otherwise,

Amanda 55:27
I don't like really read him that much. But I mean, because I remember when I was first starting, I was like, why does this tubing look like this? Or why is this? And I start to Google it. And I think I'll just put it on Facebook. And like, I have 50 answers. Yeah. And they're pretty much all the same. So I'm like, I'm going with that.

Scott Benner 55:46
Yep. And then you're like, This must be right. A lot of people think it, which I don't think that's exactly the right way to get good information. But it's a fair bet.

Amanda 55:56
of type one diabetics. Yes. Yeah. And

Scott Benner 55:59
it's on something. It's such a simple, specific thing. Like I wouldn't ask about like, I don't know, I wouldn't get online and go, Hey, what's the right thing for me to think about this Ukraine conflict? I think they're your you know, if you get a bunch of people agree, you probably didn't hear the other side, you know, but, but there's not a lot of other side to, you know, how do I handle this with my pen or something like that? And so no, it's, I actually think it's amazing. I'm very proud of it. Honestly. I think it helps a lot of people, and it's free for them. And I think that's nothing but good. Anyway, alright, so you wanted to come on, because you heard other people on here and hearing their stories helped you pull tidbits of good information out? Yeah. What do you think people have learned from you?

Amanda 56:42
Don't wait, when the doctor says good?

Scott Benner 56:47
Yeah. Do you think they learned that heroin makes you throw up?

Amanda 56:51
My knowledge? I have to be honest

Scott Benner 56:53
with you. I have no common knowledge about heroin. So I think first talked to enough people about it. Yeah, I mean, I have their knowledge now. Yeah, but I didn't have any before. If I didn't have the podcast, I'd be like, I don't know. Like my drug references would be from like, I don't know, Eddie Murphy movies from the 80s. If that happened, gaming?

Amanda 57:12
Yeah, yeah, maybe they weren't. I think that's pretty common knowledge, though. They even put that in movies. Can

Scott Benner 57:19
I tell you what I get out of your conversation?

Amanda 57:23
Can I take it? I don't know what Deuteronomy me know,

Scott Benner 57:25
neither of us know that. What I get out of your conversation is, even though you are not classically, if I said if I sat 10 people in a room, and I said, Build me the picture of a really great parent, or a really great mother or something like that. I'm being honest, I don't think people would paint a picture that you just painted of yourself. But you're a real, you're really good mom. And yeah, and you're very good at this diabetes thing for your kid. And I like your focus on it, and all of that stuff. And what I think it tells you what I think this conversation tells us, you probably shouldn't judge people, because, you know, you get a couple of factoids about them, and you think you understand their whole picture. And your factoids, or like, would be easy for people to make a bad decision about who you are. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense. So by having the conversation, the rest of you comes out. And that, to me, is what this is about. So if you guys are looking for behind the scenes idea of what I think this episode is about, that's what it's about for me. But and I think that's very important. Because if you want to get further and further into this, eventually you're going to be judging your own children this way, too. You know what I mean? Like, your kids grow up, and then you start seeing little things about them, you know, like, Oh, my God, just, you know, my kids smokes weed. Everything's terrible. Wow. Is it all terrible? Or is just a very, like, complex person who also does this? And that's what I see in there. It's very cool. Like, I appreciate you sharing your time with me. Oh, thank you. Seriously,

Amanda 58:58
what are we doing?

Scott Benner 58:59
Oh, no, I'm glad Thank you. Did we miss anything? Have I missed anything?

Amanda 59:03
Oh, my God. My daughter wanted to come say hi, real quick. She says come to look and I just realized there's a dead rat on the ledge up here that my cat Mr. Left.

Scott Benner 59:15
Whoa, whoa, slow down. We'll talk to your daughter in a second. The rats on the inside of the outside of your home. Inside

Amanda 59:23
so we have like this like large, like, just big ledge. There's a mini drum set on it, obviously. And it's just like a decoration ledge. I say my cat hangs out up there. And I don't usually come up here. But now I'm looking over.

Scott Benner 59:38
I have questions. How long does the rat appear to have been there? I'm

Amanda 59:43
gonna go for a week. Oh,

Scott Benner 59:44
is it like dehydrated yet? Yeah, the cat rip into it?

Amanda 59:49
No, not too much. left it there. I can see this

Scott Benner 59:53
this how frequently Oh, so first of all, let's just tell people again remind them you're in California, not theirs. There. Are Some people go? I don't understand why is there a rat near your house? But there are in some places, right, so Well, yeah,

Amanda 1:00:06
I mean, my cat brought it in. Yeah, it doesn't live in your house. Right?

Scott Benner 1:00:10
I gotcha. How often does this happen? Well,

Amanda 1:00:12
we moved to this apartment a little over a year ago and they keep it rent free and lots of pesticides. So this is the second one. At our old house, she would bring me like rabbits all the time. Lizards all the time. Rabbits. Yeah, big cat. She's pretty small. But she's part part bangle. She's got a little bit more.

Scott Benner 1:00:37
She's on heroin, so she's very

Amanda 1:00:42
that would make her very bolo,

Scott Benner 1:00:44
actually. Yeah, that wouldn't work for my joke. Nevermind. Hey, not for nothing. You do heroin. You've done coke. Right? Correct. Okay. And you said mushrooms happen in there somewhere?

Amanda 1:00:58
Yeah, we'd obviously I see. We had a couple times that I don't like it. Not a weed person. Look at you. I could never handle that.

Scott Benner 1:01:11
That's it. See, that's the statement I'm looking for to give people a deeper look. Heroin. You are good with we too much for you.

Amanda 1:01:19
It really was. It really is. I can't do it. I flip out and I I just constantly think get this out of my body. I can't think like this. Oh my god, you get paranoid worse thing. Oh, little, I guess I mean, I'm never like, Oh my God. I don't care if people know. And if I did it. I mean, my parents did it. My brother did. It wasn't like I was scared that somebody would find out I was high. I just hated the feeling.

Scott Benner 1:01:41
Me I asked like your mom sounded like a bit of a problem when you were growing up. So was this to kind of escape all that or you were really just doing it? Because the boy did

Amanda 1:01:50
it? No, no, my mom was great. Growing up. It wasn't until later when I was like, I'm gonna have my own life. She's like, No, don't leave me. And then she went crazy. Yeah, she was wonderful. Growing up, give me a break. She sisters. I have an older brother and then an older half brother, which is my dad's

Scott Benner 1:02:10
an older half brother, but this is after your dad. Your mom broke up. Before before, okay. Your mom, your dad, second wife. Right? Are they still together?

Amanda 1:02:24
He died five years ago.

Scott Benner 1:02:25
I'm sorry. From drinking soda. You know, a lot of soda probably right.

Amanda 1:02:32
He never drank that.

Scott Benner 1:02:34
That's what I was trying to get to. That's all I wanted to say. That's all I was hoping you were gonna say. My dad wouldn't drink that garbage. He knew what was in it.

Amanda 1:02:43
My God, he would get so mad when I ate Doritos to go like, Oh, there's a ton of chips. They're gonna kill you.

Scott Benner 1:02:51
I'm in the meeting. Sweetie. Listen to me.

Amanda 1:02:54
I remember we used to have to hide buying something. I think maybe it was Doritos. Because one of them was owned by Pepsi. Something was owned by Pepsi. And we couldn't be seen at the store buying it.

Scott Benner 1:03:07
I do remember that. Frito Lay and PepsiCo were related somehow I thought when I was a kid, though, I'm not sure if I'm right about that.

Amanda 1:03:14
Yeah, something like that. One of them is I remember having to like sneak stuff in.

Scott Benner 1:03:19
There's that documentary, which let me just say I don't remember the name of that was about how algorithms are literally written to just take over and make you do you know, click and swipe and keep you in the app and all that stuff. And there were designers of the algorithms and the thing I said, I my kids are not allowed to have these. That's what I pictured when I talked about your dad than your dad. You were like my dad doesn't drink soda. Are you kidding? That's for you people. Not us. We know. So it's the most telling thing anyone's ever said on this podcast by God, I hope people made it to this part. I don't even know what the hell we were talking about. Your mom's a decent person. Blah, blah. She went wonky when you tried to have your own life. Your dad died from what? I'm sorry.

Amanda 1:04:08
Um

Scott Benner 1:04:12
it's such a long pause. Did he take his own life?

Amanda 1:04:14
Maybe he died from bacon or beer? Not sure. Oh, hard talking. Like one of

Scott Benner 1:04:18
those things? Yeah, okay, cuz you pause for so long as I go, God, our Father might have taken his own life.

Amanda 1:04:24
No, no, no, no, he just, he got he had a bad heart. He had a quadruple bypass when he was like 46. Wow. Yeah. And then towards the end he had a pacemaker and defibrillator and it just

Scott Benner 1:04:41
I should have picture your father with a cigarette in one hand a stick of butter on the other hand, saying this soda is not good for you. Is that about right? Exactly. Exactly. Gotcha. Saturday, you're putting butter on butter. I am I love it. My gosh. ASHRAE in every room

Amanda 1:05:01
when I was young, but I once we moved to Georgia, I think smoking became an outdoor thing. Yeah, like we weren't allowed to do it. Now he wasn't allowed to smoke in the house, my

Scott Benner 1:05:11
age and you know your age. You're close enough to me like your parents were smoking. There was just it was everywhere.

Amanda 1:05:18
Oh, yeah, you're smoking in the hospital while I was born, most of

Scott Benner 1:05:23
you don't I haven't seen in decades. My dad stop at a red light. Take the ashtray from his car, which by the way, for all of you young people, cars used to have ashtrays, and it was full overloaded with butts and ash, he used to have to take the bus and crush the ash to make more space to put more butts and ash into it. And then you'd pull up at a stoplight. He'd pop it out, open the door, reach down, dump them on the ground, tap, tap tap on the ground and put it back in the current driveway.

Amanda 1:05:53
I saw a guy the other day with all windows up smoking in a like a nice car was like a SUV Mercedes ish kind of thing. Oh, man smoking with all the windows up cigarettes.

Scott Benner 1:06:04
Not vaping

Amanda 1:06:06
cigarette. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, wow,

Scott Benner 1:06:10
yeah, give it up now.

Amanda 1:06:13
pretty hardcore, but there's he in his 60s 70s 80s late 70s. No more. Yeah, definitely. I'm

Scott Benner 1:06:19
rolling out just like this.

Amanda 1:06:22
Have a heart attack so expensive. It's crazy. You know,

Scott Benner 1:06:24
so I didn't know that. But we were driving to see Arden and we stopped at this place to get drinks and use the bathroom and stuff like that. And I saw a guy asked for a carton of cigarettes. And when they I remember when the woman said how much it was. I was like, wait, what? What is happening? Like, you know, like insane amounts of money for cigarettes. Yeah. Didn't slow him down. He's like he got to actually. Wow. I remember. My dad used to pay two bucks for a pack. And card.

Amanda 1:06:55
I remember I used to when high school. Yeah, we all like cooler. quarters together. Get

Scott Benner 1:07:01
your cigarettes. Yeah, I remember that storage. I remember when a carton went to $20 My dad was like that. That's insane. Like, he was like, he was like, put off by that and went to like a generic cigarette for a while. He was so

Amanda 1:07:16
pissed about it. My dad rolled his arm. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:07:19
obviously it's in your blood. But um, we got almost like, how much is a carton of cigarettes now? I'm gonna find out. Yeah, I don't know anymore. I wouldn't know either. Hold on a second carton of cigarettes. By the way. How much is a car car battery catalytic converter popped up car inspection in Pennsylvania. Wow, you can get a carton for $50. And this is not in California. And this know how much there?

Amanda 1:07:47
I mean, I know that. At least a pack is $10

Scott Benner 1:07:52
here in California, hold on, let's say in California and see what happens. pack of cigarettes. Jesus mother gun. All right. Well, God bless you. You must love people must love smoking. It's all tax too. Right? Like they're taxing the crap out of it trying to get you not to do it. Right. Well, actually here Wow. Price per pack by state. New York. 1045.

Amanda 1:08:19
Cattle Wow.

Scott Benner 1:08:20
California. 553. It says

Amanda 1:08:23
that's you think some crazy pack? I don't know. What's kind of that in

Scott Benner 1:08:27
Alaska. Add one. Minnesota or Minnesota? A 840. That's interesting. It varies a lot. Looks like New York's got the on this list at least.

Amanda 1:08:42
Yeah, New York's always been a little ahead of California. But I mean, I know whenever I go to the gas station, I see that it's nine something Oh, two, nine something to excuse me.

Scott Benner 1:08:51
It 553 for a pack of cigarettes in California. 87 cents for excise tax per pack. 43 cents for a state tax per pack. $1.30 total state tax per pack that all gets tacked on to the 549. So in New York, Jesus 1045 plus four plus 40 cents plus 470 548. Yes. $20. Oh my god. That's enough reason to move. If you're a smoker, you'd have to leave the city, I would think All right, listen, this has been terrific. Are we letting your kid talk? Or did she bail? Yeah.

Amanda 1:09:25
No, she wants to just put on speaker the headphones. It's up to you if she's your kid.

Scott Benner 1:09:33
I mean, well, I mean, you can put your to hear it. You're not going to hear what I say to her then. If you're alright with that. Then Jim has things in her ears. Oh, hey, kid. What's up? What's your name? Karen Perrin. Oh, that's a lovely name. How old are you? 1111 I'm 52 just so we know who each other is. You know my name. Yeah, I'm Scott. Your mom and I were talking about your diabetes. I hear you're using a Dexcom. Yeah, yeah. Which one do you have? That's comme je six, six. And you have a pump? Yes. How you like your pump? Okay. Yeah. Well, what kind of bump is it?

Unknown Speaker 1:10:22
I forget my visit.

Scott Benner 1:10:24
Is it tandem? Tandem? Why is it? Why is it Why is Dexcom good and tandems? Okay. Because

Speaker 1 1:10:33
it has to have the wire the tubing. Yeah, your

Scott Benner 1:10:38
mom wouldn't let you in on the pod. Yeah, she wouldn't get it for you. Or she would. But

Speaker 1 1:10:44
she would get it for me. But I was, I'm afraid because it's bigger, so it'll hurt a little more.

Scott Benner 1:10:54
I don't think that's how that works. But I hear you. You should do what makes you comfortable. My daughter wears nod. Oh, yeah. For like ever. So my daughter's 19 which is eight years older than you. You might be impressed with how good my math is. And she's been wearing it on the pod since she was four. That's 15 years. She's been wearing

Amanda 1:11:14
one. Oh, wow. Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:11:16
She likes it a lot. Maybe you'll try one. Who knows? Yeah, because because the tubing is. So what's wrong with the tubing is it gets stuck or do you not like taking it off to get baths? Or what's the thing? Yeah,

Speaker 1 1:11:28
like out like taking it off to like getting a poor shower.

Scott Benner 1:11:32
You ever forget to put it back on after shower?

Unknown Speaker 1:11:35
Actually, yes.

Scott Benner 1:11:36
I mean, your blood sugar goes up, right? Yeah, it happens a lot. Okay, what do you eat? Like, what's some of your favorite foods? Probably tacos. Yeah, like, like once your mom makes or once you get to the store? Yeah. Yeah, Mommy, are you pretty good at bowling is one of them? Not really. I

Unknown Speaker 1:11:55
usually have my mom and my dad did him. Uh huh. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:11:58
I understand. It's different. I heard you're changing your own Dexcom now though, right? Yeah. Very cool. Good for you. Was it scary to do the first time? Yeah, a little bit. Not too bad now. Yeah. Have you seen the g7?

Unknown Speaker 1:12:16
Yeah, I'm looking into it more. Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:12:18
You doing your own research? Yeah. Yeah. You want to make sure, right. Yeah, my daughter's using it. She likes it a lot. Yeah, smaller. I think she finds it a little easier to put on. And the warm up period where you don't have numbers. There's only 30 minutes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Pretty

Speaker 1 1:12:38
cool. Yeah. So that's how I'm excited about it. If

Scott Benner 1:12:42
you ever decide to buy Can you do me a favor? Yeah, go to dexcom.com forward slash juicebox. When you get it, okay. I use my link. Okay. Okay, I gotta make a living. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess can't talk to your mom for fun. I mean, I could, but I got bills. You and me. You're young. You don't know anything about money? You got any money? Oh, yeah. Yeah, like score on it away somewhere. How much you got? I'm not sure right. Now. You want to say in front of your mom. She thinks she'll make you pay for something. No,

Unknown Speaker 1:13:15
I'm just not sure how much I have.

Scott Benner 1:13:19
More or less than 50 bucks.

Unknown Speaker 1:13:22
Probably less.

Scott Benner 1:13:23
Okay. What do you get for like, birthdays and stuff like that?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:27
Um, I usually use it on Starbucks. Oh, look

Scott Benner 1:13:30
at you. You're like a what? Do you like a cold coffee or hot tea? What do you enjoy?

Unknown Speaker 1:13:36
frappuccinos so cold stuff.

Scott Benner 1:13:38
How are you? bolusing for those

Unknown Speaker 1:13:42
10 units.

Scott Benner 1:13:43
10 units does a frappuccino. Yeah. Do you get a spike out of that or no? Yeah. Hi. Hi. Hello. Hi. I'm sure. Does it come back down on its own? Or do you and your mom have to give yourself more insulin at some point? Um

Unknown Speaker 1:14:06
I don't quite hear you.

Scott Benner 1:14:08
Oh, I'm sorry. Do you usually have to Bolus again? Or does it come down by itself? After you?

Unknown Speaker 1:14:14
I usually have the Bolus again.

Scott Benner 1:14:16
Hey, can I ask you a couple of questions about your your vision? Yeah. Oh, good. This is exciting for me. Thank you. I'm sure it's not as exciting for you. Has it been your whole life as long as you can remember? Yeah, yeah. So you don't you don't have any memory of it. You feel like it's possibly been like that forever? Because you don't have any memory of it any other way? Yeah, then red and green. How do you tell them apart?

Speaker 1 1:14:44
It's usually easy. I'm not quite sure. I just taught my brain to train me to know the difference you

Scott Benner 1:14:52
taught yourself which is which? Yeah, are they both just different versions of like, like black or or

Speaker 1 1:15:00
low usually, it's more close to orange.

Scott Benner 1:15:06
Reds more like orange or greens more like reds more like red. Okay. And what's green look like? What do you think green looks like? How do you describe that?

Speaker 1 1:15:15
Probably like, light brown. Like

Scott Benner 1:15:20
Brown. Okay. Does it do everything? Well, everything looks different to me than it does to other people. Yeah. How does that feel?

Unknown Speaker 1:15:30
Honestly,

Speaker 1 1:15:31
it doesn't really feel like anything. It's just like kind of wish like see normally. Yeah, clarifying

Scott Benner 1:15:37
this. Maybe if I could see the way you saw. I'd wish I could see like you. Maybe no. Yeah, it's possible.

Speaker 1 1:15:44
Yeah, like it's cool sometimes. But it's also kind of annoying, but people find out. Then they're kind of just like, Oh, what's this color? Or like, was that color?

Scott Benner 1:15:56
Oh, then they want to like play the game with you. Or they asked you like, yeah. Is this the kind that like you can wear glasses to change? Have you ever seen those glasses? Yeah,

Speaker 1 1:16:04
yeah. Yeah, I've worn them when I was little by hated it. Yeah, like the

Scott Benner 1:16:08
glasses. Yeah. Hey, weird question. You're not gonna understand why I'm asking you. Do you like Slurpees? Yes, you do. Do you love them? Yes. Interesting. Okay, thank you. You have any questions for me?

Unknown Speaker 1:16:23
Not really. No, no.

Scott Benner 1:16:25
I appreciate that. Do you ever hear me like coming out of your mom's phone? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Just you dad ever say like crap about me. Like, oh my god. You listen to that again? Oh, no, that's nice. Tell him I think he's cool. Then. Do you see? Is he teaching you how to play the drums?

Speaker 1 1:16:43
He tries to but I don't want to learn.

Scott Benner 1:16:46
Are you any good at it? Are you just not interested? I'm just not interested. Gotcha. Jamia has like a lot of work. It looks like to me. I mean, really does. It was like a sweaty thing. Do you play any instruments?

Speaker 1 1:17:00
I used to play trumpet last year. No.

Scott Benner 1:17:04
Did you like it? Yeah. Nice. But why did you stop?

Speaker 1 1:17:11
Because I wanted to give acting more of a try. You're doing acting in school? Yeah. And school? Oh, wow.

Scott Benner 1:17:19
Tell me like you take classes.

Speaker 1 1:17:22
Uh, yeah. Nice. I'm actually doing the Little Mermaid. Really?

Scott Benner 1:17:28
Are you the crab or the mermaid? Where are you the sea witch or whatever?

Unknown Speaker 1:17:32
I'm one of the sisters. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:17:34
nice. Like the one Oh, yeah. Like behind Ursula right. Oh, no, no, no, the the. The mermaid sisters. Yeah. Nice. You have any lines?

Speaker 1 1:17:46
I'm just singing but otherwise know what songs the daughters are trying to and she's in love. Oh, that's

Scott Benner 1:17:52
wonderful. You're doing that at school? Are you doing that

Unknown Speaker 1:17:54
in the class? In class?

Scott Benner 1:17:56
Oh, nice. How often? How many times a week you go to class

Unknown Speaker 1:17:59
to Monday, Wednesday.

Scott Benner 1:18:03
Do you have any problems with your blood sugar's while you're acting?

Speaker 1 1:18:07
That usually, sometimes when we're dancing, it'll go low. Okay, otherwise now?

Scott Benner 1:18:14
Gotcha. Is there like an exercise mode on that T slim? I think there is right? Yeah. Is it? Is it worked for you? Good. Very nice. Oh, celiac. There's certain things you don't eat right? Yeah, the bother you not eat those things. You do not care.

Speaker 1 1:18:33
Most of the time. I don't care. But sometimes I'm just like, I wish I can have that. I got birthday cake. Like birthday parties with cake. Cake. That's

Scott Benner 1:18:43
that's something I wish I could have. I don't want to rub it in. But I had a cupcake the other day was fantastic. Oh, yeah. You'll never know I guess. But my God So good to cake. And then there was the sugar all over the top with the only thing that you ever eat the icing? Yeah, that's pretty good. Actually, the icing is probably the best part. I don't know if you're missing anything. Yeah. Is this like, gluten free cake? Is it not great?

Speaker 1 1:19:07
It's good. But gluten cakes better?

Scott Benner 1:19:11
Yeah. What happens if you eat gluten?

Speaker 1 1:19:13
I'd throw up after two hours. So it's like digesting it. Oh,

Scott Benner 1:19:18
that might be genetic that's thrown up. Yeah. You see you eat a cupcake, for instance, with gluten in it. And a couple of hours later, you just vomit? Yeah. Oh my gosh. That's insane. Well, yeah, I would want to avoid that. Right? Yes. So are you taller than your mom?

Unknown Speaker 1:19:37
No,

Scott Benner 1:19:38
I think you will be.

Speaker 1 1:19:41
Maybe I'm very much shorter to her.

Scott Benner 1:19:45
Yeah. Hey, I am adopted. out so you and I kind of have something in common a little bit, right? Yeah. What's it like to like, I mean, I know your dad's your dad. Right and everything. He loves you and you love him. But what's it like to not know? Like a parent? Oh,

Speaker 1 1:20:05
really? No views. I was so young. Yeah, that's time and I didn't really know what that was. You don't think about it though? No, not really. No,

Scott Benner 1:20:16
I didn't either. When I was little, I don't know, either. I get all seemed very normal to me. You know, but it's kind of cool. I thought. So I used to think this. I used to think that because I don't know, the people that I came from, like, I get to, like, decide who I am. And I don't have to, like, you know, follow along by what other people do. So I don't know if you might find that freedom at some point when you're older. Yeah, that's pretty cool. What else do you love? Anything? Music drawing?

Speaker 1 1:20:46
Probably my pets. Yeah,

Scott Benner 1:20:50
you have a dead rat up there. Did you know that? Oh, yeah. Your cats? Like an animal like religion unmanly? Like, just like it just grabbed a rat and killed it. Is it gonna be weird now to pet the cat knowing that he or she like she she? She was able to do that? Because she's like, a little, like a little murderer. Or almost, you know, anyway.

Unknown Speaker 1:21:12
Yeah.

Scott Benner 1:21:13
Are you scared of her now? Right?

Speaker 1 1:21:15
A little bit? Yeah, she's actually right here. So I shouldn't say much. Yeah, right.

Scott Benner 1:21:21
You don't want to piss her off. Come for you next. It'll be up on the windowsill. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't think the cat can kill you, by the way. But I have one last question for you that I'm gonna let you go. Or you haven't. First of all, you haven't fun? Yes, sir. Good. Good. All right. My last question is, you don't like to get blood draws, right? Tell me about what it makes you feel like when you know you have to get a blood draw.

Speaker 1 1:21:45
Like kinda nervous. And I'm afraid it's gonna hurt way more than it does like, these. One time, I had to go with my mom. And it kind of like, we couldn't get enough blood or anything. And so I had to do it again. So that's the part I'm most scared of.

Scott Benner 1:22:04
So it makes you nervous because you think it's gonna hurt but then it doesn't really end up hurting that badly. Yeah. Why are you nervous the next time?

Speaker 1 1:22:11
Almost, it's really nerve wracking to get my blood drawn.

Scott Benner 1:22:15
I gotcha. I understand. My daughter doesn't like it either. Yeah, I don't mind it. Can I give you a hint? I think I learned. Yeah. Okay. So you know, when they like, the gut in the vein, like in your like, like the bend in your arm, right to get the blood out? Yeah, I found that if you take out like a, like a deep, not a real deep breath, but a breath in. Right. And then as they're putting the needle in, push the arrow. So while the while the needles going in. It really, it really changed it for me. Oh, yeah. Give it a try next time. So just you know, say, All right, well, I want to make sure we're ready. I'm going to take a deep breath in and I'm gonna blow my I'm gonna blow the breath out while you're putting a needle on. So I want to time it like that. And then just deep breath in. Blow it out while the needle is going. It made a big difference for me. Give it a try. Let me know if it up if I helped you. Okay, if it helps you tell your mom tell her write me a note. Okay. Okay. All right. Cool. It was lovely to talk to you. Is this going to be the first podcast you've ever been on?

Unknown Speaker 1:23:23
Yes, actually. Nice.

Scott Benner 1:23:26
You want to pimp your Instagram or anything while you're here? No. Yeah, Instagram you want people to check out or anything like that? Yeah, yeah. You can share it if you want to.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:37
Okay,

Scott Benner 1:23:37
I'll ask your mom if it's okay first, okay. Okay. All right. Put her back on. So I can say goodbye to her. It was really nice to talk to you.

Unknown Speaker 1:23:45
Have a good day. Bye.

Scott Benner 1:23:48
Hello, two things and I'll let you go. Okay, was that kid on school?

Amanda 1:23:53
Because I scheduled this wrong. She's having a pump failure right now. She'll be a little late.

Scott Benner 1:24:01
I'm gonna let you go. And the other thing is, she told me that when she eats gluten, it makes her throw up and I said, Oh, that might be genetic. But she doesn't know why I said that. And I think when you listen back to it, you're gonna laugh You're I'm gonna let you go. Because obviously you have a life that you have to attend to in Arad, you have to dispose up. So I really do appreciate you doing this very much. It was terrific.

Amanda 1:24:24
Thank you.

Scott Benner 1:24:25
Thank you. Yep, take care. Bye

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